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jordan057 16-11-2009 14:04

shirt colours
 
hello,

i'm an italian football fan and i'm interested at the origin of football teams

could you tell me about the origin of the Stanley shirt?
why the club adopted red and white colours?

thanks.

Gianfranco

Benipete 16-11-2009 14:52

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Stanley were founder members so they didn't adopt anything.The adopting was done by Man United etc.

And it seemed a good idea at the time.

david1 16-11-2009 14:53

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This may help you Jordon ;=

Accrington Stanley History

click on club colours

david1 16-11-2009 15:55

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Here is some more information -

Accrington Stanley - Historical Football Kits

wheel down to read the history

Northern Monkey 16-11-2009 16:12

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Posted via Mobile Device Stanley were not founder members of the football league. At all. It was merely Accrington.

Stephen666 17-11-2009 11:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 763232)
Posted via Mobile Device Stanley were not founder members of the football league. At all. It was merely Accrington.

Correct
Accrington folded as a football club. Accrington Stanley began life some years later originally as Stanley Villa

Northern Monkey 17-11-2009 11:29

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Posted via Mobile Device This is the third reincarnation of an Accrington football team.

Willie Miller 17-11-2009 21:10

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Re-formed....

Only pedantics pick up on this most boring of facts... Each club has been a professional League club playing on behalf of the town of Accrington. Different legal entities, different boards, different directors & owners, different forms with the League etc etc

Our history is a proud one, for all three flavours of ACCRINGTON!!!!

Northern Monkey 17-11-2009 22:47

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Or people could point to that club is living on other people's glories.

maccawozzagod 17-11-2009 23:12

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past glories?

I like the idea that we have only been playing competitve football for 39 years (from the park leagues) and have already got this far! I wonder what is the quickest that a club has gone from the bottom league to the FL? And I wouldn't count Aldershot in that as they inherited a fanbase of 4000 with which to buy the earlier leagues

Northern Monkey 18-11-2009 00:35

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Posted via Mobile Device Saying that Stanley were founder members of the football league.

Nothing pedantic about saying they weren't, 'cos in all honesty Stanley did not form the league. They are two different teams, with their own honours and achivements.

Tin Monkey 18-11-2009 07:26

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It's just like being back on ConfGuide, but not as amusing!

Willie Miller 18-11-2009 08:31

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Without Jack Walkers Millions, Accy 1968 would probably have a local derby a lot closer than Morecambe, Bury or Dale............

Love
ParkaRed!

Tealeaf 18-11-2009 08:52

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Looks like there is a nasty virus on the link on post No 3.......

We should consider ourselves lucky that we're not sat around now talking about reincarnation No 4.

JEFF 18-11-2009 09:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 763556)
Re-formed....

Only pedantics pick up on this most boring of facts... Each club has been a professional League club playing on behalf of the town of Accrington. Different legal entities, different boards, different directors & owners, different forms with the League etc etc

Our history is a proud one, for all three flavours of ACCRINGTON!!!!

Spot on Willie. I watched Stanley in 50's and 60's and as far as I am concerned the present Stanley and the past Stanley are the same.

Tin Monkey 18-11-2009 09:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 763634)
Spot on Willie.

I believe that you can get a cream to cure that Jeff.

maccawozzagod 18-11-2009 10:12

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karma for that one TM!!



I wonder if any other town, particularly one as small as Accrington, can boast of having three separate football clubs in the professional leagues? whichever way you look at it Accrington can rightfully be extremely proud of its chequered footballing heritage.

Wynonie Harris 18-11-2009 10:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 763638)
karma for that one TM!!



I wonder if any other town, particularly one as small as Accrington, can boast of having three separate football clubs in the professional leagues? whichever way you look at it Accrington can rightfully be extremely proud of its chequered footballing heritage.

Burton's the only other one I think.

Burton Swifts - Div 2 1892-1900
Burton Wanderers - Div 2 1894-97
Burton Albion - Div 3 2009 -

In fact, strictly speaking, Burton have had four clubs, as Swifts and Wanderers combined to form Burton United, who were in the league from 1901-07.

Right, I'll get me anorak. :o

Exile on Spencer St 18-11-2009 12:17

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This is a long way from the colour red. Anyone know why red? I'd assumed that white was chosen by quite a few ancient clubs because it was a cheap material from which to make shirts. But then there were a surprising number of early clubs that had stripes, so that blows that theory. Other than it was occasionally the colour of the Hyndburn (aka River Stink) when the dye works was in full swing, is there a reason why Th'Owd Reds chose that hue?

maccawozzagod 18-11-2009 13:25

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why the colour red?

well it doesn't come from the 'Stanley' coat of arms - if the original team was indeed named after a person specifically, as that crest is blue.

I would imagine the colour was chosen when the original Mr Coleman went to his local original Giftprint shop and said

"ast'e geet sum shirts ast' lads can run abaht in?"

and the original Stanleymad/lancsdave said

"aye, we geet hundrid weight o' this red malarkey down yon corner as tha can a fer nowt"

to which the original Mr Coleman - having been schooled at the infamous local Whalley Financial College replied

"dun, whats thi' finance terms an' conti gi'me a vat receipt?"

or it might be because the Accrington crest (which was only 'designed' two years before the formation of Accrington FC) contains a lot of Reddery

Attachment 14876

maccawozzagod 18-11-2009 13:34

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Attachment 14877 should have been this picture but can't edit it now. Thats the original Accrington Crest as initiated in 1879 (tin monkeys birth year I believe)

Bradshaw Boy 18-11-2009 14:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 763645)
is there a reason why Th'Owd Reds chose that hue?

what came first the nickname or the shirt colour?

Bernard Dawson 18-11-2009 14:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 763634)
Spot on Willie. I watched Stanley in 50's and 60's and as far as I am concerned the present Stanley and the past Stanley are the same.


I agree with that Jeff. I know people will keep pushing the pedantic point about separate clubs.

My answer is simply that for me it's the same club because Accrington Stanley represents the town of Accrington. It's the town's football club.

VALAIRIAN 18-11-2009 17:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 763651)
why the colour red?

well it doesn't come from the 'Stanley' coat of arms - if the original team was indeed named after a person specifically, as that crest is blue.

I would imagine the colour was chosen when the original Mr Coleman went to his local original Giftprint shop and said

"ast'e geet sum shirts ast' lads can run abaht in?"

and the original Stanleymad/lancsdave said

"aye, we geet hundrid weight o' this red malarkey down yon corner as tha can a fer nowt"

to which the original Mr Coleman - having been schooled at the infamous local Whalley Financial College replied

"dun, whats thi' finance terms an' conti gi'me a vat receipt?"

or it might be because the Accrington crest (which was only 'designed' two years before the formation of Accrington FC) contains a lot of Reddery

Attachment 14876

Great explanation Macca - love the role play.... :D :D :)

Tin Monkey 18-11-2009 17:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 763653)
Thats the original Accrington Crest as initiated in 1879 (tin monkeys birth year I believe)

Don't push it!! :D

Northern Monkey 19-11-2009 05:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 763618)
Without Jack Walkers Millions, Accy 1968 would probably have a local derby a lot closer than Morecambe, Bury or Dale............

Love
ParkaRed!

Congratulations on a completely irrelevant post. I can understand your jealousy though.

We're the same team we've always been - from our original conception in 1875, until today in 2009. Where as your team tries to pretend it's a founder member of the league when it isn't. Another lovely little fact - Blackburn Rovers FC are the most successful team that hails from a town. The same Blackburn Rovers formed in 1875 that played at Oozehead and Lemmington Spa, prior to their home now at Ewood Park.

Correct me if I am wrong but the 12 founder memebers of the league were:

Accrington F.C.
Aston Villa F.C.
Blackburn Rovers F.C.
Bolton Wanderers F.C.
Burnley F.C.
Derby County F.C.
Everton F.C.
Notts County F.C.
Preston North End F.C.
Stoke City F.C.
West Bromwich Albion F.C.
Wolverhampton Wanderers F.C.

Now, I don't see any Accrington Stanley there. But, hey, I'm being pedantic...

Wynonie Harris 19-11-2009 07:57

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It's not a "completely irrelevant post" it's just a little bit of lighthearted banter, which you'd understand better if you'd ever looked at the confguide forum.

Incidentally, hate to be pedantic, but I very much doubt that Rovers ever played at "Lemmington (sic) Spa".

Take some advice from Abe Lincoln before your next post! ;)

JEFF 19-11-2009 09:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 763755)
Correct me if I am wrong but the 12 founder memebers of the league were:

Accrington F.C.
Aston Villa F.C.
Blackburn Rovers F.C.
Bolton Wanderers F.C.
Burnley F.C.
Derby County F.C.
Everton F.C.
Notts County F.C.
Preston North End F.C.
Stoke City F.C.
West Bromwich Albion F.C.
Wolverhampton Wanderers F.C.

Now, I don't see any Accrington Stanley there. But, hey, I'm being pedantic...


OK. I will correct you Stoke City were not founder members of the Football League it was Stoke F.C.

Quote:

Stoke Ramblers merged with Stoke Victoria Cricket Club in 1878, resulting in a change of name to Stoke FC. The club were founder members of the Football League in 1888. The Potters went bankrupt in 1908 and were officially reformed under the same name. In 1925 the city of Stoke-on-Trent was granted city status and soon after the club changed its name for the final time, to Stoke City.
So the present Stoke City are the third Stoke team in the Football League (same as Stanley). Try telling Stoke supporters that they are not founder members of the Football League and see what they say.

maccawozzagod 19-11-2009 10:02

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lol @ Jeff. Go get 'em!

Northern Monkey 19-11-2009 12:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 763763)
It's not a "completely irrelevant post" it's just a little bit of lighthearted banter, which you'd understand better if you'd ever looked at the confguide forum.

Incidentally, hate to be pedantic, but I very much doubt that Rovers ever played at "Lemmington (sic) Spa".

Take some advice from Abe Lincoln before your next post! ;)

Sorry, I 'd only just got home (Internet and alcohol doesn't bode well) and got my places mixed up it was Leamington Street.

If I could be bothered signing up to a Stoke forum, to tell them something they will already be aware of - I would. Adding a name doesn't male it the third re-incarnation either.

Stephen666 19-11-2009 12:09

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I find this quote in your sig quite interesting :D

"It is better to remain silent and presumed a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."

Northern Monkey 19-11-2009 12:13

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Congratulations.

Exile on Spencer St 20-11-2009 11:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 763651)
why the colour red?


to which the original Mr Coleman - having been schooled at the infamous local Whalley Financial College replied

"dun, whats thi' finance terms an' conti gi'me a vat receipt?"



Attachment 14876

If it's the same Whalley Finanacial School of Cardboard Management that I'm thinking of then I presume the fella's still waiting to be paid for his red flannel.

Revived Red 21-11-2009 11:51

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Gianfranco, the Italian who began this thread, must wonder what it is all about! The thread seems to have been hijacked.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought we were trying to attract Rovers and Burnley fans to make Stanley their second team and thus give us support whenever possible.

Stanleymad 21-11-2009 11:57

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No u are not here to cause trouble Northern monkey and for 2 this is the STANLEY section so therefore rovers stats are not relevant really other than to stir. So please return to our footy section or rovers.net if you have to discuss rovers, but unless relevant will not be open to discuss here in the stanley part - you have been warned thanks.

Stanleymad 21-11-2009 11:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 764260)
Gianfranco, the Italian who began this thread, must wonder what it is all about! The thread seems to have been hijacked.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought we were trying to attract Rovers and Burnley fans to make Stanley their second team and thus give us support whenever possible.

Yep u are right it has been hijacked & not to manner of the thread, so i will try to clean it all up for u Gianfranco:D

Now thread is tidied up a bit & hope the thread stays on topic thanks :D

Northern Monkey 21-11-2009 12:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 764260)
Gianfranco, the Italian who began this thread, must wonder what it is all about! The thread seems to have been hijacked.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought we were trying to attract Rovers and Burnley fans to make Stanley their second team and thus give us support whenever possible.

I wouldn't let the people on here put me off attendting a game of football.

Willie Miller 22-11-2009 11:01

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No banter allowed on a forum, what a joke

Stanleymad 22-11-2009 11:35

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Not much of a banter when it ruined a thread & people were getting peeved with it, besides wouldnt of minded if the point of arguement was well informed or necessary in this case it wasnt the right place for it as it detracted from the topic which was an interesting discussion about the stanley shirt history - not Rovers !

VALAIRIAN 22-11-2009 11:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 764412)
No banter allowed on a forum, what a joke

You will have to start a new thread WM and entitle it footy banter..... :D :D :)

maccawozzagod 22-11-2009 12:25

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it'll have to be called Stanley footy banter or it'll get moved to general :rolleyes:

VALAIRIAN 22-11-2009 12:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 764426)
it'll have to be called Stanley footy banter or it'll get moved to general :rolleyes:

Sorry Macca :o I forgot about that :rolleyes: :)

Willie Miller 22-11-2009 12:32

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I don't really care TBH

But, my posts "defending Accrington Stanley" get deleted yet a Rovers fan nit-picking at OUR history, on OUR forum? And he's comments stay?

Bizarre

Stanleymad 23-11-2009 11:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 764429)
I don't really care TBH

But, my posts "defending Accrington Stanley" get deleted yet a Rovers fan nit-picking at OUR history, on OUR forum? And he's comments stay?

Bizarre

It wasnt your posts i was removing it was his in all honestly ramming crap down peoples throats, if u quoted his posts in response they had to be removed to make sense, btw lots of his posts were removed & he has been warned so cant see why questioning my moderation.

You could always invite him to the ultras forum if u wish to continue the topic:rolleyes::D

Redash 23-11-2009 18:52

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Yawn !!!!!

Stephen666 23-11-2009 18:58

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Quote:

But, my posts "defending Accrington Stanley" get deleted yet a Rovers fan nit-picking at OUR history, on OUR forum? And he's comments stay?
Well, youv'e certainly got a bit of Karma from me :)


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