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VALAIRIAN 14-01-2010 10:46

Increasing Crowds??
 
Just taken this from Official site, we keep banging on about the low gates at The Crown, would something like this help to increase our gates, as well as giving the Match day Staff, an idea of how many people are going to turn up??


Ticket Sales
Wednesday 13th Jan 2010
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Shrewsbury v Stanley - Saturday 30th January
http://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/g...sbury_town.gifAdvanced purchase tickets for the Shrewsbury Vs Stanley game are on sale now at the club. Big savings can be made when buying a ticket in advance, standard admission prices will apply for supporters who choose to pay on the day.



Prices are as follows:

CATEGORY / ADVANCE TICKET / PAY ON THE DAY PRICE
ADULT /£10 /£18
OVER 65’S / £5 /£13
STUDENTS WITH ID /£5 /£13
AGED 12 - 16 YEARS (on own) /£5 /£11
11 & UNDER (on own) /£3 /£5
DISABLED -
ambulance or wheelchair users /£5 /£13
CARERS /FREE /FREE

CATEGORY/ ADVANCE TICKET / PAY ON THE DAY PRICE
1 ADULT & 1 CHILD UNDER 11 /£12 /£19
1 ADULT & 1 CHILD 12 - 16 YRS /£14 /£21
1 ADDITIONAL CHILD UNDER 11 /FREE
EACH ADDITIONAL CHILD 12-16 /£3

There are 112 tickets to go on sale, plus 5 pairs of wheelchair/carer tickets.
Supporters MUST sit in the seat number stated on their tickets.
We also have 8 car park permits for disabled blue badge holders only, to be issued when they purchase a ticket.


I like the idea of the mix'n'match, kids and parents. Still do not understand how all these Teams, Shrews, Dale, Shakers, Alex, Vale Etc. Get away with charging £18/£20 for League 2 footy?? At £13/£15 we must give the best value for money on the pitch!!! :)

Something to look at in the future perhaps??????

Stephen666 14-01-2010 10:59

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Still do not understand how all these Teams, Shrews, Dale, Shakers, Alex, Vale Etc. Get away with charging £18/£20 for League 2 footy?? At £13/£15 we must give the best value for money on the pitch!!!
Agreed, good value for money at Stanley.
but I don't think this scheme wil work at Stanley.
As you said earlier prices are already low, how can a further reduction be made? . £13 to stand at the Clayton End (and we all know you can sit for £13 if you want). Under 12's already get in for free as a Redz member and it's free to join.

cashman 14-01-2010 11:10

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good value definately, not certain it will work though.:confused: hope it does.

VALAIRIAN 14-01-2010 11:18

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Originally Posted by Stephen666 (Post 778186)
Agreed, good value for money at Stanley.
but I don't think this scheme wil work at Stanley.
As you said earlier prices are already low, how can a further reduction be made? . £13 to stand at the Clayton End (and we all know you can sit for £13 if you want). Under 12's already get in for free as a Redz member and it's free to join.

I am just thinking about the discount for booking initially! To give an idea of numbers, but £10. pre-booked, is an idea to be used in conjunction with 1 or 2 others, more through the gate, more noise, better atmosphere, more 50/50 ticket sales, more programmes, you know the idea!! Just a thought that is all! :)

mab 14-01-2010 11:22

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:)How about this! Any paying adult for the Rotherham game pays £5 all areas as long as a ticket is bought at the same time for the facup match against Gillingham at full price. now thats an insensive to turn up:) but may be to late in the day now :(what you think

Stanleymad 14-01-2010 11:23

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Great theory & offers but cant help wonder the commotion its gonna cause with the seat no allocation, presumably the stewards will have to check & escort people to seats, also remove people who have taken the seat [supposed reserved labels will be used], but also confuse people who are used to sitting in 'their usual' places having to move. Something that stanley isnt used to this method as other clubs! What about standing? do u get a reserved spot? lol

Can see the potential but can see problems being exsaperated for stewards & Mick & would have to be a method put in for all games rather than just some, otherwise confused.com it will be & least like with the clayton end seats & loss of standing took a while to adjust to, imho:D

Stanleymad 14-01-2010 11:30

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Also great if u can book early but what about those that pay on the gate on the spur of the moment it may discourage tho.

cashman 14-01-2010 11:35

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Personally i think the Don actually aquiring E.W.s shares n a statement to ALL sections of the media,saying so, would not do any harm at all. i reckon some would drift back then,without discounts.:rolleyes:

VALAIRIAN 14-01-2010 11:47

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 778202)
Personally i think the Don actually aquiring E.W.s shares n a statement to ALL sections of the media,saying so, would not do any harm at all. i reckon some would drift back then,without discounts.:rolleyes:

Fair point Cashy...... :rolleyes: :)

VALAIRIAN 14-01-2010 11:59

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Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 778197)
Great theory & offers but cant help wonder the commotion its gonna cause with the seat no allocation, presumably the stewards will have to check & escort people to seats, also remove people who have taken the seat [supposed reserved labels will be used], but also confuse people who are used to sitting in 'their usual' places having to move. Something that stanley isnt used to this method as other clubs! What about standing? do u get a reserved spot? lol

Can see the potential but can see problems being exsaperated for stewards & Mick & would have to be a method put in for all games rather than just some, otherwise confused.com it will be & least like with the clayton end seats & loss of standing took a while to adjust to, imho:D

It is just the theory SM, would not for one minute suggest allocated seating, I am just on about deals to get folk in!!! :) :)


180 all out :( :(

Pendle Red 14-01-2010 12:02

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Probably be more apt for one of the Tuesday night games coming up and in particular be aimed at away following's as that is where most of the money would come from for such a promotion, if it was also aimed at either Rover's or Burnley season ticket holders as well it may push the crowds up greatly?

AccyMad 14-01-2010 13:30

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 778202)
Personally i think the Don actually aquiring E.W.s shares n a statement to ALL sections of the media,saying so, would not do any harm at all. i reckon some would drift back then,without discounts.:rolleyes:

Wouldn't hold your breath on that one Cashy, if he was gonna buy the shares the deal would have been done by now :rolleyes:

cashman 14-01-2010 13:41

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Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 778229)
Wouldn't hold your breath on that one Cashy, if he was gonna buy the shares the deal would have been done by now :rolleyes:

i think so also accymad, but some clarity fer benifit of fans n possibles should be forthcoming as to what exactly is gonna be the case. then i won't hold me breath on that un either.:rolleyes:

Bernard Dawson 14-01-2010 14:12

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I think any ideas that have the effect of increasing the attendance are to be welcomed.

The question why Stanley are not better supported as occupied a good few minds. But I'm not sure we still know the answer to the question. Is it just down to money, people can't afford go watching football. Is it that a lot more people would go if the team were doing well?

It could be that it's a mixture of both, or some other reason. I'm not sure.

Outback Ozzy 14-01-2010 15:24

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Originally Posted by mab (Post 778195)
:)How about this! Any paying adult for the Rotherham game pays £5 all areas as long as a ticket is bought at the same time for the facup match against Gillingham at full price. now thats an insensive to turn up:) but may be to late in the day now :(what you think

I know that all football fans have been missing the beautiful game, but why would Rotherham fans want to pay a fiver to see us play Gillingham :confused:








Just joking, not a bad idea really:mosher:

Stephen666 14-01-2010 15:25

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Although Stanley's crowds could be better I think fans are great and really supporting the team.
You have to remember that Burnley is 5 miles one way and Blackburn 5 miles the other.
How many years ago was it we were in Uni L 2 and the attendance was 300 inc away fans.

maccawozzagod 14-01-2010 15:36

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we are still in the grip of the worst economic depression in living memory, and we havce the added unbenefit of now having two premiership teams within 5 miles. Yet crowds are not much worse than they were 18/24 months ago. Which suggests to me that better times may well not be too far away. It also doesn't help that we have had as much negative publicity as it is possible to have in the last 18 months!

I reckon that things are on the up next season anyway, but I would love this club to really push the boat out and make a statement to the whole world of football. We should ensure that we are the cheapest Football League club in the country. I would charge a fiver for everyone, regardless of age, political or sexual persuasion, creed or physical ableness. Family of four £20?

I am adamant that it would push crowds to the 4000 mark. We then have to be in a position to capitalise on triple the amount of people. We would havce to be able to get them in the club shop, sell them programmes and beer, and we would have to look at the catering as to whether we should up the rent to the current traders - or take it off them and do it ourselves. I am sure that advertising and sponsorship revenue would increase dramatically as well.

But if the school of thought is that by more halving our ticket price we would be halving our income then it wouldn't or couldn't ever happen.

Bernard Dawson 14-01-2010 15:43

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Originally Posted by Stephen666 (Post 778250)
Although Stanley's crowds could be better I think fans are great and really supporting the team.
You have to remember that Burnley is 5 miles one way and Blackburn 5 miles the other.
How many years ago was it we were in Uni L 2 and the attendance was 300 inc away fans.

That's true, although there have been times when we have had over 3,000 on. I don't know what the answer is. Maybe there just isn't the potential to get decent sized crowds on the Stanley on a regular bases.

Stephen666 14-01-2010 15:49

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 778255)
That's true, although there have been times when we have had over 3,000 on. I don't know what the answer is. Maybe there just isn't the potential to get decent sized crowds on the Stanley on a regular bases.

I was being positive Bernard, look at where we are now and where we used to be. A big credit to Coley, the players an the fans of course. . . . . . . I was part of the 300 by the way.

Bernard Dawson 14-01-2010 15:55

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Originally Posted by Stephen666 (Post 778257)
I was being positive Bernard, look at where we are now and where we used to be. A big credit to Coley, the players an the fans of course. . . . . . . I was part of the 300 by the way.

I agree with what you say. It's just that question how do we get more people on the Stanley. Is it money, is it other factors that keep people away.

DaveinGermany 14-01-2010 18:43

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Looking at the club & ground last year when I visited, I thought the prices were reasonable enough, but the parking looked like it would present problems if the gates were upped. I also think that maybe the stands could possibly do with modernising/smartening up or at least maybe the roofs extended to give a bit more shelter to the fans, especially on those cold wet & windy days in Autumn/Winter. I understand this costs money but speculation should help increase turnover = Income. That said isn't it possible to maybe encourage local firms into helping, whether it be donations of material/workforce time or building as a project, local Military engineer Regts often do builds in the community to strengthen ties, plus it gives the lads & lasses a chance to practice their trades. As incentive/reward invites to Hospitality events & free entry to "Top games" use of the boxes, surely those more in the know could come up with something suitable.
Then there's the shop, when we visited I wanted to spend a few bob but there was no opportunity, when I looked online there the choice was very very poor, I then read about the problems with dsipatch etc and decided against ordering anything (As it is, I'm still waiting on my Official club card for season 09-10 applied in Sept 09, and at the same time paid for season 10-11) this was my first time of joining and if others have had the same sort of response it's hardly surprising people aren't falling over themselves to join/purchase merchandise.
So that is my point of view hopefully there's something in there you can use, but whatever comes, I really want to see the club march on and have many successes.

Pendle Red 14-01-2010 21:21

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Nothing ventured nothing gained in most cases with the posts on here as always some very fluent ideas.

Football in Accy has always been difficult down the years pre 68 it was the same with surges up & down in crowd sizes with two Top Flight Clubs either side but the Club have to push themselves only they can do that and make those are the key descions big or small that will bring sizeable additions in crowd numbers to the Crown Ground, we all play our part by wearing the Shirts, coming along and supporting them, bringing friends and family along and just spreading the word.

One conversation I had recently with a friend and fellow Stanley fan probably sums it up best in my eyes:

The Holy Grail for Stanley was always the return to the Football League, once that was achieved there was a massive failure to build on that in most things at the Club it was the one chance for the Golden Goose to appear, now it time is to seek out a new Holy Grail that will capture the publics attention to focus on Accrington Stanley once more for the right reasons.

Grimps 14-01-2010 21:26

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league one for me is the new holy one

Pendle Red 14-01-2010 21:28

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Originally Posted by Grimps (Post 778344)
league one for me is the new holy one

In one you have it my friend:)

cashman 14-01-2010 21:31

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Originally Posted by Grimps (Post 778344)
league one for me is the new holy one

If that can be attained before i croak, i will die happy.:)

Pendle Red 14-01-2010 21:32

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The Clarets had the "Dare to Dream" campaign
Rovers had the "Taking Back Ewood Campaign"

What have we got? or more importantly what do we need?

What about "Roar Us On to League One"

Grimps 14-01-2010 21:33

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snow off the ground lol

VALAIRIAN 14-01-2010 21:43

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Originally Posted by Pendle Red (Post 778214)
Probably be more apt for one of the Tuesday night games coming up and in particular be aimed at away followings as that is where most of the money would come from for such a promotion, if it was also aimed at either Rover's or Burnley season ticket holders as well it may push the crowds up greatly?

I like that idea Google Page Ranking, those fans are there, so let's try to get some to come, not every game, but as you have said, selected games, when we know that the turn out will be low and build from there! Friday nights again are a good one to go forward with! :) :)

Just ideas, something must be worth a try, unless the thoughts are as Macca has said, money off means less money in! But isn't there a saying that "Less is more?" :eek: :rolleyes: :)

AccyAggro 15-01-2010 09:08

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I think we do alright as a club for fans when all considered. Theres the other 2 teams factor and the credit crunch etc

At least we have a regular at least 1200 loyal fans on the gate, but when you look at darlingtons now they arent doing well it has shot to the lowest in the league. At least our expectations dont get to high and dont get fickle about what we watch, i.e i dont think iv ever heard any fans boo the team at the end of the game, regardless of the result

Wynonie Harris 15-01-2010 09:36

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Originally Posted by AccyAggro (Post 778412)
when you look at darlingtons now they arent doing well it has shot to the lowest in the league.

...not quite. Darlo's current average is 2,028, ours is 2,022, Macc's is 1,991 and the Daggers' is 1,967. Those two biggish gates against Darlo and Alex when other fans turned up in our hour of need have prevented us from occupying our usual bottom-of-the-table position. Hopefully, the attractive, winning football we're playing will prevent us from ending up with the lowest average attendances at the end of the season!

VALAIRIAN 15-01-2010 10:23

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 778420)
...not quite. Darlo's current average is 2,028, ours is 2,022, Macc's is 1,991 and the Daggers' is 1,967. Those two biggish gates against Darlo and Alex when other fans turned up in our hour of need have prevented us from occupying our usual bottom-of-the-table position. Hopefully, the attractive, winning football we're playing will prevent us from ending up with the lowest average attendances at the end of the season!

But that is just the point WH! The football is the best we have seen in years - consistently - He, has gone - a some folk blame him for not turning up - It ain't overly priced, but Darlo, Alex, plus Cup games against Bury Etc. that combined with fans coming from other Teams - some just for the experience and some just to entertain us - "If you don't bounce....." What would our average be if it had not been for all of this??? :confused: :) :)

Wynonie Harris 15-01-2010 10:35

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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 778434)
What would our average be if it had not been for all of this??? :confused: :) :)

I would imagine it would be the usual 1,500-1,600 average that we usually get. If we carry on playing great football (and winning) and if the off-the-field improvements carry on (and, let's face, it things are improving in this direction, despite a few cock-ups here and there), then I would hope that the local public respond. Maybe, it's just taking 'em a while, after years of apathy. If, however, we don't pick up any extra fans this season, to my way of thinking, it'll prove that Accringtonians really are indifferent to their football club. However, it's early days yet... :)

DaveinGermany 15-01-2010 15:24

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Originally Posted by Grimps (Post 778344)
league one for me is the new holy one

There is every chance that this can become reality within the next few years so long as they keep on the way they are at present, there is a very positive attitude from the Team with a good finish at the end of last year, as long as they start off 2010 in the same vein (once the snows finished) the could have a good placing at the seasons end, and there is still the chance of Cup football.

shakermaker 16-01-2010 13:12

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League Two:

Notts County 54.9% increase - Avg of 7,222 up from 4,662

AFC Bournemouth 36.6% increase - Avg of 5,784 up from 4,236

Accrington Stanley 23.3% increase - Avg of 2,023 up from 1,640

Rotherham United 10.9% increase - Avg of 4,358 up from 3,929

Morecambe 8.71% increase - Avg of 2,291 up from 2,108

:)

Outback Ozzy 16-01-2010 15:53

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Two points to make. Firstly on the commercial side of things, the club has definitely taken a positive step in the right direction with the reappointment of Lew. Secondly, yes we have had a few large gates and our average is up, yet how many of the other teams supporters have said they will come back when their own team is playing away. Certainly quite a few Bury fans and we may have also picked up the odd PNE and Blackpool fan as well. What we need to do is make sure that we get the Accrington based football fans wanting to come to the Crown. Better facilities, yes they are needed, pitch upgrade (levelling out and better drainage) also needed, but we have the right man at the helm and the winds of change are approaching. I have seen the best football played by a Stanley team this season for a long while. We may even have the opportunity to get promotion (be it by the playoffs or automatically, either way is not out of the question). So lets shout it out loud and proud about Stanley. We are, after all, the third East Lancashire team in the football league, and long may we do so.

lancsdave 16-01-2010 18:08

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Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 778886)
We are, after all, the third East Lancashire team in the football league, and long may we do so.

Actually the only one for this season at least :)

Outback Ozzy 18-01-2010 09:22

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 778952)
Actually the only one for this season at least :)

Picky LD - OK We are the only East Lancs club in the football league.:D

lancsdave 19-01-2010 21:24

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Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 779357)
Picky LD - OK We are the only East Lancs club in the football league.:D

After tonights result and saturday's kick off times you could actually be the last East Lancs team in the FA Cup ;)

Grimps 19-01-2010 21:44

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will it be all ticket ???????????????

Outback Ozzy 19-01-2010 22:38

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Originally Posted by Grimps (Post 779976)
will it be all ticket ???????????????

Yes, details on the fishy site tomorrow.

shakermaker 19-01-2010 22:50

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Hope there's a bumper crowd, will be a big cash injection for the club.

See fishy for ticket details.

huncoatred 19-01-2010 22:56

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FA CUP 4th Round bound to increase the crowd!!!!
Bring on Fulham

Grimps 21-01-2010 19:24

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hope of a full sell out v fulham ...plus a win or a draw .....

Grimps 24-01-2010 09:55

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why not for the barnet game give 1st 200 thicekts with fulham stub £3.00 off or sum thing like that


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