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:(:( :) Bit of an up-date Grimps is on his way back on the coach!! Hope hes ok:) and gets checked out when he gets back home.

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disgrace every steward and copper in the stadium and outside no need for any of it!! we have no football factory squad!! we want a party atmosphere!! don't know how they can stand their and smirk after what happened!! was thier a need for police dogs outside the ground near the away coaches!! chucking kids out at half time!! spolied a good day!! turner great goal!! passion when he celebrated infront of us was unbeliveable! well done lad!!

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Just to let everyone know, the 15 year old who got arrested is on the coach on his way home with his mum. He was released without charge, after being searched, fingerprinted and interviewed. His mother will be making a formal complaint against the steward who rough-housed him at Accrington police station tomorrow morning, complete with photographic evidence of the physical injuries suffered by her son and the shredded shirt he was wearing!!

I know this lad personally and he isn't a trouble maker, far from it, he's a nice polite quiet lad. Just hope it doesn't put him and his family off coming to football.

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that's the problem though isn't it Sparkie? Some kids will experience unnecessary aggression like that and may never come again (or mother doesn't let them), on the other hand some may 'live' off the experience for years at school and grow up to be someone who actually wants to challenge authority of that kind. And become a hooligan.

Fortunately at Stanley we tend to frown on that kind of behaviour and it gets nipped early on before it becomes a problem. Imagine if Grimsby had been playing at Cheltenham today :eek:

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good to know he is travelling back ok though. I hope everybody else is also on the buses or that they parked all three outside the police station until everybody was released.

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all persons are present and accounted for and yes at least one coach shored up outside the police station until everyone was released. I believe one of the tactics used by the people on the coach in an effort to get everyone released as soon as possible was to form an orderly queue for the police station toilets!!! I even overheard one of our lads shouting at one of his mates to tell the policeman that they were pregnant and to wee in his helmet!!!

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Glad to hear they didn't lose their sense of homour! :D

From the sounds of it a bit of banter was taken in a way I didn't think was possible. Anyone from the 'authority' side should be ashamed and if they aren't need to take a serious look at themselves.

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I was there today, on the halfway line of the In2Print stand, and I have to say your fans were amazing.

The stewarding and Policing today dated back to the 1980's - give em an orange jacket and it gives them the power to just balls up anything they like. Trust me, they can be just the same with our fans - I know!

The noise you lot made, the songs - amazing. Your players should be proud to have that sort of following.

I would have to be honest though - the "Mummy's boy" who was arrested made quite a few "adult gestures" that his Mum might not have liked when he was taken away!

All the best for next season.

Birthdays, Elections and Accrington Stanley's Incredible Fans

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I think you're talking about the wrong 'mummy's boy' the one i'm talking about got thrown out before the game had even started. The lad you're talking about was thrown out during the game and wasn't a 15 year old!

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he could be locked up for the weekend......

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who? Everyone that was 'arrested', got thrown out, was injured or left early came home on one of our coaches.

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This is what was waiting for us as we entered the ground.
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...7&d=1273354117

Three lines of police and a line of stewards. All were agressive and heavy handed from the off, a few of us decided that we would rather not hand over £20 the Cheltenham Town FC, and instead handed it over to the barman at the pub.

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This was at the beginning of the parade.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...8&d=1273354637

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gotta say a good day, a decent little ground n pitch, good pub pre match, good craic, decent game, SPOILT by heavy handed STEWARDING N POLICING, people needlessly injured through those cretins of stewards, as we witnessed, suggest anyone injured should speak to a solicter on monday, quite a few people saw what actually went on.:(

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Stunned into silence for the most part. Never seen anything like that at any football game I've been to. Some stewards were blatantly assaulting fans (they ripped the 15-year-old's shirt in two, leaving him with marks all over his neck and shoulders) and the police weren't afraid to manhandle others once called in by the luminous crew. The police arrested the 15 year old and fingerprinted/searched him without his parent present. Don't even want to go into the horrid scenes that followed the flag farce.

I walked out of the game with about 20 minutes to go to be met by two police dogs barking their heads off.

Just glad everyone is OK and everyone got home.

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Don't know where to begin, what should have been a brilliant end-of season party day was thoroughly spoiled by the Cheltenham stewards' actions, can say definately that the 15 year old who was thrown out & arrested had done absolutely nothing to warrant even a warning from the stewards.
The lad has visible injuries which have been photographed & his family will be seeking police advice tomorrow morning & will be putting a very strong complaint in to Cheltenham Town FC (as more of us who witnessed it should do).
After that, I was sickened, this feeling was excacerbated by the incident with the elderly gentleman and I left the ground at that point - could not believe all that we have witnessed today. These two terrible incidents were not by any means isolated,
many fans were stunned & some in tears at our treatment which as I've said was not warranted in the slightest.
What had started out a good day has ended in a total nightmare - through no fault of any Stanley fan. Maybe it's as well it's the end of the season as right now I don't feel I want to see another game for quite a while, certainly not an away one :(

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I was quite appalled by some of the scenes I saw at the game today. most of your fans looked like they were out to enjoy themselves, and like all fans just gave us stick (as we did back because that's part of the game).

the incident with the bloke that got chucked out after 5 minutes was isolated. the 2nd problem where all stewards, police and fans got involved was after you got the "skull and crossbones" flag out in response to us getting our flag out. and that's when many of your fans walked out rather than kicking off again.

I actually spoke to the guy (Grimps?) who hurt his leg and was in a wheelchair and seemed alright, as did his mate with "Squaddie" on back of shirt. Hope your leg is ok.

I saw one of your young lads (wearing a red t-shirt) in tears, looking towards the Cheltenham fans as if to say "why is this happening..." and then being comforted by his mate. I felt really sorry for him.

I've not seen stewarding or police like that at Cheltenham before. I hope that it doesn't put you guys off returning next season, we really are a family club (although you may question).

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Why was he a 'mummys boy', just because his family all follow Stanley & she was at the game - what was she supposed to do, stay & watch the game not knowing where her son was or what was happening - grow up!
Also, for your information, I don't know what you thought you saw but the lad couldn't have made any sort of gestures as that damned steward has his arms pinned behind his back.

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The question must be asked then...why Stanley? Did they get their intelligence wrong and think that the West Ham Intercity firm or Millwall F-troop were coming to town? (you would've thought so from the lines of cops assembled outside the turnstiles)...or can they just not cope with fans who simply want to enjoy themselves and turn an end-of-season day out into a noisy, good natured party? :confused:

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:) Nice to see your back Grimps!! hows your knee pal this morning:)

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good day ...... turn in to crap .....

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:)Some great phots of Stanley fans marching to the ground yesterday!!!:) click on the link KIPAX Photo gallery. Nice one Tony:)

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Disagree he got one of me smiling............ will get me a bad name.:D

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good pics Toneeee!

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cheltenham_march_23.jpg :: Stanley Ultras March on Cheltenham Has to be my favourite. Looks totally over policed, or are northerners not allowed to walk down the streets with out a police escort?

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To be fair, I came on here in full support of your fans and the sh*tty treatment they all got. YOU need to grow up - if a whole family goes and follows a team miles from home I think that's fantastic - I was there with my kid yesterday too. Obviously I now read the kid with his Mum wasn't the one who was arrested during the game. Fair enough - apologies for not knowing all your fans indivdually and who they came with .

Plus, I do know exactly what I saw thanks - the kid arrested during the game made gestures & spat in the direction of the home fans in that corner. You may have found that hard to see as you would have been looking at the back of his head - but whatever, that doesn't bother me in the slightest - none of it would have happened if any of the stewards had a brain cell between them.

As someone sat in the home end, I would happily back up any complaints any of you are going to make - The powers that be at Whaddon Rd need to hear comments from not just the away fans on how sh*t that all was..

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thanks CT, no doubt some will be in touch for a version of events.

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I understand what you are saying but they would have been there for the protection of the same fans incase any idiots decided to kick off at them as well

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:) you mean photo n 9 cashy!!:)

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Fair comment, I was still very angry this morning as the lad involved is my friend's son & we were all at the game together and so my post was probably a bit unfair.
It goes without saying that I totally agree with you about the stewards, it seemed they had made their minds up before we got there that there would be trouble & they were determined to be proved right.
Lastly, of course we would appreciate any backing for our complaints from the Cheltenham fans & thank you for the offer

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see ya make me look like Andy Pandy.:D;)

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OVER THE TOP - Thats what i would describe all the goings on, on saturday!! Cheltenham Football Club are a disgrace.

I was actually talking to the steward after the match and they said that they had been briefed before the game on that Accrington Stanley fans have no banning orders and hardly any arrests in the last ten years and the the police where called upon on the last hour.

Ive got a few snaps of things.

At least we wernt at the grimsby burton game, that looks manic!!!!

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yeh but the "Steward Supervisor" was the "Prime" cause of those injuries F.C. not the police, as we witnessed, the guy is a total thug/cretin.:(

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Is that the big fat guy in blue, who started it all?

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yes he was the one in blue ..... been on phone to both clubs and just waiting for call back from ..if a trip get a 1,ooo

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Well, that was an interesting day...

Firstly, Stanley Ultras organised for us to unofficially march to the ground behind a banner, loud & colourful. Good natured & passionate. The same we did afterwards at QPR, the same as we did for the Peel Park March in 2006. The same as barrow did from the Green Man pub to Wembley on Sat (with 300 bodies....)

Obviously, Cheltenham & Gloucester constabulary were spooked by this. In fact, the first copper at the pub said he couldn't believe our "arrogance" that we would travel & presume we could just do this.....

Therefore all I can think is that it is a crime to be organised & passionate group of football supporters.

The amount of police was ridiculous....
I was arrested at the start of the march then let off, obviously because they couldn't write "walking in the road" on an arrest sheet...

So I spent the afternoon in the Sudeley Arms drinking champagne with other Reds who refused to go in....

I would suggest they lost around £200 plus had a massive police bill & for what ......

Crazy

On a final note, given all the hassle, and talking to other like minded Accy fans. It is suggested we play it a little differently pre match just in case our "mannerisms" are causing this increased authority at our games.... Here's to a safe 2010-2011

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What did Cheltenham Town say? I'd be interested to know. As a Cheltenham fan I am very supportive that you get a solution from this, still can't believe how you and your fans were treated.

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put it all in writing to the club . wel they do not now me i can spell so it will take weeks for me to write.

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Hope you get it sorted, anything I can do to help, please shout. I've been looking at our club website to see what it says about stewarding etc. have a good mind to send them an email to see what they have to say. I think that some of the stewards were brought in from outside the club, I know some of the stewards have been around for ages and wouldn't get involved - just my view of things.

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let me know what you want to say Grimps and I'll send it off for you.

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and looking at the pictures of your march, it shows that you're all having a good time, supporting your club with pride and enjoying the day - sorry it didn't stay that way.

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Hope ya have better luck than me mate, went on cheltenham site, tried twice to send a long e-mail giving my view of things, and twice it wouldn't go.:confused:

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Same here Cashy, so I wrote them a couple of pages & and sent it by snail mail today - will let everyone know if & when I get a reply.

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have a look at this page if not already done so

http://www.ctfc.com/page/Contacts/0,,10434,00.html

consider especially contacting the stadium manager (Paul Roberts) and safety officer (Andy Dalgetty)

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cheers elchuddy have just e-mailed Paul Roberts.;)

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hey, no probs. just want you guys to get a positive, helpful result. let me know what happens

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There's a gallery of photos from the match on the official Cheltenham Town site:
Cheltenham Town | Match | Gallery | Gallery | Cheltenham Town v Accrington Stanley 8.5.10.

The eighth one of Cheltenham fans at the game is worth noting. Apparently passing flags over supporters' heads is not only allowed but positively endorsed and promoted by the club. So, did their stewards get it wrong?

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Theres no did about it, that demonstrates all the ultras were trying to do, until those thugs wrecked the day. have had NO reply from cheltenham fc yet.:(

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During the game, after the flag incident, the stewards did come over to us to tell us to take the flag down a couple of times. They were also filming some of our fans.