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JEFF 22-08-2004 14:20

Our Defence - Or Lack Of It
 
Stevenage 5 Stanley 0

I Rest My Case

Smiffy16 22-08-2004 15:05

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Stanley 3-1 Burton................Morecambe 1-2 Stanley

Both games our defence was excellent.....3 games into the season and weve picked up 6 points. Before we started this season, the opening three games I would of taken 5 points (1 home win and 2 away draws) weve come away with 6 points which is very respectable (2 wins and a defeat).....If anyone said to me we were going to get 6 points from our opening 3 games I would of taken that with no problem and I think most people on here would of too.......

Yes JEFF the defence were very very poor yesterday but you have to take into consideration that the previous 2 games our defence was superb! both at home VS Burton and away VS Morecambe........just because of one terrible game you can't start callling for the defence to be changed straight away...its a defence which is capable of being solid and gelling very well together. The performance at Stevenage yes, was a disaster but you can't call for their heads now.........3 games into our season.


As I have said before Keep the faith and lets encourage our boys and cheer them on to victory against Crawley Town on Saturday........

Come on You Reds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mik Griff 22-08-2004 15:24

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I think Everyone had a stinker yesterday, the defence cant be held responsible for it all.. I did however feel Bimson had a particularly poor match.. after his performance against Morecambe I didnt expect that.

The only player I felt had a bit of spark yesterday was Craney.. He's going to be a star.

That said, We should be raising morale, not condemning the season already.

Up The Reds!!

AccyMad 22-08-2004 18:37

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Yes but as we all know this is Jeff's favourite subject, after all his standard post on here is 'if we had a defence we'd be dangerous', I'm surprised he didn't quote it in this post - he usually does, even when we haven't lost!!
It's no use turning on the lads for one bad performance, as others have said let's put it behind us & I'm sure the lads'll do the same on Saturday.

Tin Monkey 22-08-2004 20:29

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To be fair, neither Morecambe or Burton had a potent strike force and both sides were very poor, as subsequent results have shown.

Smiffy16 22-08-2004 21:22

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true but theyve only played 3 games.......

Mik Griff 22-08-2004 21:51

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I suppose that can be said.. however the way we played at Morecambe, and the way we played at Stevenage were so far apart that I believe it had nothing to do with the "quality" of the opposition.

JEFF 23-08-2004 08:30

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If it had nothing to do with the "quality" of the opposition, what do you think was wrong. I hope it wasn't too many late nights. It was a terrible performance from the whole team. We were saying that we had a good performance against Morecambe and that they were a good home team, hard to beat, yet on Saturday they got beat 3-1 at home by Gravesend. As you know it is my favourite moan about the defence, a subject which I have been going on about for a couple of years not just after the performance on Saturday. Until we get this sorted out I don't think we have a chance of winning anything.

Smiffy16 23-08-2004 08:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JEFF
Until we get this sorted out I don't think we have a chance of winning anything.

Oh the optimism........................

JEFF 23-08-2004 09:37

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Oh to be realistic

Smiffy16 23-08-2004 09:41

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Oh stop moaning JEFF thats all you do......how about encouraging the lads instead of jumping on their backs everytime they make a mistake.

glosterred 23-08-2004 10:33

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the defence and the whole team were poor......this was a blip...the annual 5-0 defeat before stanley go on to bigger and better things.
6 points from 3 games is very good lets not knock it
come on stanley

JEFF 23-08-2004 10:46

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Smiffy - I encourage the lads every game that they play and I am not getting on their backs. I have not singled out any player and called him any names. I just think that we need to tighten up the defence. If you cannot see that then you must be blind or not watching the same game that I am. This annual 5 goal beating. We lost 5 goals at Gateshead with 10 men, an own goal, and two goalkeeping blunders. We lost 5 goals to Telford with a defensive mix up, and three goalkeeping blunders. There were no reasons last Saturday except that we were not good enough. If you think that last Saturday's performance was acceptable and promotion standard then you should get real and stop living in a dream world. Remember the team are full-time now, football is their job. If I had performed at work the way they performed on Saturday I am sure that I would be on a warning by now. They did not do their jobs to the best of their ability.

Smiffy16 23-08-2004 11:06

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Yeh i agree, but the team not only defensively were awful on Saturday.....but what i'm saying is everytime stanley play you seem to critisce the defence even when we win games.......not only the defence was poor on Saturday the WHOLE team was.....the same thing happened when you looked back to Gateshead and Telfrod...I was at both of those games and I was there on Saturday and as I say it wasnt just the defnce which was poor......this same thing happenned in the 2 games last season and the "championship" winning season and it wasnt just the defence in both of those 2 games....when the whole team perform poor we leak goals.....

Lets just hope the team dont perform like the 3 games we've pointed out and play like the Accrington Stanley we know!.......

Come on Reds do us proud and give us victory on Saturday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JEFF 23-08-2004 11:17

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I agree with what you say, at the end of the day we all want what is best for Stanley, we are all on the same side, but we see things differently. I am sorry if you think I am moaning after every game but clean sheets win leagues and we don't keep many, so basically we have to score at least two goals to have a chance of winning. We strengthen the midfield, we strengthen the forwards but we do not seem to strengthen the defence. Get a tight organised defence and we could be going somewhere, surely you must agree.

Elkding 23-08-2004 12:24

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Hi, Stevenage supporter here! Just been reading through your posts and all... Anyway, from the east terrace on Saturday thought Bimson looked quite good, strong, and also Lutel James looked dangerous. Paul Cook in the middle seemed to be a problem for you. We have quite alot of pace in our side and he seemed to be a link that often couldn't keep up when we were forming our attacks. Also, your number 4 had a shocker, Williams was it. Anyway, clearly alot of your guys didn't turn up on Saturday and it was an early season blip.

Anyway, reading what a lot of you have to say about the game, quite rightly the performance of a few of your guys at the back contributed to the result. Anyhow, not that im searching for superlatives of anything because our side weren't great either, we have and can play better, but, were there any boro players in who you thought looked quite dangerous/ useful? Where do you see Stevenage finishing towards the end of the season after viewing them first hand?

Im sure you will recover after saturday and personally, at the start of the season, had you down as a darkhorse for playoffs - you have aquired a great attacking option in McEvily, and now boast mean wingers and strikers.

Cheers, Elkding

Smiffy16 23-08-2004 16:35

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Yes JEFF that I do agree with....

AccyStanFan 23-08-2004 16:54

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elk, georgie boyd looks useful :)


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