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Having a medical at Scunny......

Fee set by tribunal. Hopefully all dosh given to Coleman

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I thought facebook was joking me :( but as much as i would like him to stay its his choice, good luck to him.
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BBC Sport - Football - Scunthorpe set to sign Accrington striker Bobby Grant

Could still fail the medical :) haha

Good luck bobby dont forget where you started

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Not entirely unexpected but it is a Big move up two leagues

I concur with your thought WM on any tribunal fee being given to Coley

I suppose from Scunny's point of view it will be low risk move with not having to pay a full transfer fee for Grant, from the players point of view he will have to now show what he can do and step away from the safety net Stanley have provided for him over the last few seasons.

Good Luck to Bobby it now makes the need for a left sided midfielder and a striker even more pressing from the Red's point of view.

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Gutted but good luck to the lad

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

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Get Kee signed up with the dosh

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Gutted to say the least, when I spoke to him at O.S.C. Do, he said all he was waiting for was the contract and he would be signing, but, I suppose it must be looked upon as a very good chance for the lad and not one to be missed, still gutted, no Grant and no Symes, Coley is really going to have to work wonders next season!!

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Thing is WM, all three are totally different players!!

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Scunthorpe?!
Can't blame Bob for moving to a Championship side, however it's not unlikely to see us in League One alongside Scunthorpe in a couple of seasons. Think if he had another season with us he could've got a better/more established Championship club out of it. But maybe the pittance of a budget that Coley has to work with is already working against him? Best of luck to Bobby, hope he goes on to great things. More hope goes into the result of this tribunal, we developed him, we should get a decent fee. <a href="http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)" smilieid="8" class="inlineimg" />

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Gutted isnt the word.

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:( Gutted as a stanley fan!! but the writings been on the wall since the turn of the year when neither Grant or Symes signed extentions to their contracts.Good luck Bobby Grant :) Do we know if Symes staying or going yet:(

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Symes to ipswich is what im hearing, but tranmere want to make him an offer
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:) Tranmere interesting:) lets hope Symes is the only one they want:rolleyes:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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GUTTED isnt the word :((

Good luck with everything though bobby

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bring craney back on a free transfer
he hasnt got a club

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thanks but no thanks:)

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why not? he had a great career with us and it was a shame when he left

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Craney was inspirational & inventive first time around, second time around showed glimpses of his past glories but they were sporadic.

It's no use keep looking back we have to move on, forward, we have enough midfielders barring a left sided one

at the end of the day It's a football club not friends reunited, I suppose I mean by that don't let sentiment & emotions cloud your judgement

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Couldent agree more Pendle

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Gutted isn't the word !
Wonder what fee we will command from the tribunal?

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Two of the things you have quoted should give you the answer, he has had his best days with us, we need to look forward, or we will be having Cav at RB and Mullers up front!!

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[quote=Nickelson;817299]Gutted isn't the word !
Wonder what fee we will command from the tribunal?

It depends on a number of things, including Youth development costs, medical information, value to club, games played etc.

What I do belive is we have the FACTS to prove our youth + medical dept do a FANtastic job, and hopefully this will result in a FAIR fee!!!:)

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Is it right that we paid for some operation prior to him playing professional football or did I dream that?
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Gutted....though you can't blame the lad. However the fact that it will be decided by tribunal doesn't fill me with much optimism. :(

They're notorious for undervaluing players. Will they impose a clause on the deal??? Will the fee they have to pay reflect the TRUE value of the lad and his undoubted potential???:confused:

Can we replace Grant and Symes with like for like and players who can drive the club forward??? This news coupled with the possibility; and realistically, probability of Symes off to pastures new, makes signing Kee a must.:o

Hope Coley enjoyed his holiday....the hard work starts now and he'll have to act fast to get suitable replacements snapped up, before all we're left with is other folks dead wood to choose from. He's going to have to rebuild our entire front line from scratch.:eek:

And this will teach the club a harsh lesson.In the future they will have to tie key players down on longer term contracts. Otherwise this scenario may come back to bite us on the posterior again.:(

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Medical information has to remain confidental, BUT you're not dreaming:p

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If any one can recall a case where a club were happy with a tribunal award tell me about it because it eludes me.

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absoulty gutted!! grant was a great younger striker/winger! loved watching him play his passion for the game!! his engery everything!! good luck to him no doubt he will be on quite abit more than he is at Stanley and to play infront of alot of people!! just hoping the money can be put to good use!! and think it also says something about our academy as he came through that natured by coley and jb!! good luck bobby

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we need to get players on bigger contracts now ... good look bobby .... beach 4 you now .. but good luck

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Think if he goes to Scunny, that whilst going up the ladder, aint the best move fer him, no disrespect to Scunny,think the lad would do much better, if he remained at stanley fer 1 more season, also so would stanley, don't wish bobby any ill will, but think he's being a bit numb.:eek:

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he's probery talked to coley jb and other players!! he's 19 getting to play in championship on better wages infront of 10000 people!! I know what I would do at 19!! good luck to him hope it all works out!! hes going have a great career!!

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I wouldn't rush to spend any money from the tribunal, they are still sorting last summers stuff out yet

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can understand that line of thought, i was a numpty at 19, as many are. still don't make it sensible.:rolleyes:

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Good choice for Bobby tbh! Little Championship club that he can shine!! with not as much pressure as other clubs!!

Absolutely gutted though! Amazing guy and a superb player!! Well be very much missed as a player and also a person within the club! Always had a chat with fans after and before the match!!

His heart was with Stanley!!! and thats why we all wish him well! He loved the club and also loved Coley and the fans!! He must have a very good offer their and a deal he couldnt refuse!! Playing football is a job and if he can earn more money and achieve more things higher up the leagues then thats fair enough!

Good luck Bobby, superb bloke!!

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Bobby Grant - Scunthorpe United FC forum from footymad.net Irons message board

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Evenin' all,

Scunny fan in peace. Seems that most of you are disappointed he's leaving so thats a good sign. Would have been flapping a bit if the general view had been you were pleased to see the back of him.

I understand we had a bid turned down for him last week (just the opening gambit i assume) and that you boys value him arouind £200k perhaps with a few add ons?

If thats the case then i'd be surprised if it ever saw a tribunal, a compromise will be reached i'd have thought.

You certainly wont want to take your chances with a tribunal and will want the funds ASAP and we wont want it hanging over until next season so a deal will be done i think.

A couple of season we brough in Martin Paterson from Stoke and the tribunal was delayed until after the start of the season.

Here was a lad who couldnt get in Stoke's reserves and just had a few games experience out on loan in League 2.

We expected to pay around £150k for him but by the time the tribunal sat he was scoring plenty of goals in the CCC.

The tribunal werent meant to take that into account but of course they do, it's natural. So, we got hammered for £350k with sell ons on top. Thats not a route we'll go down again i think!

Scunny will be a good move for him if he's able to step up.

We are by far and away the smallest club in the CCC and cant compete with any of the sides in that league cash wise so we have to shop around the lower leagues and conference.

We bring young players in, polish them up a bit and then wave goodbye when a bigger club comes in for them

In the last few years we've shifted Andy Keogh to Wolves (850k), Billy Sharp to Sheff Utd (2m), Paterson to Burnley (1.2m) etc etc.

Next out the door will be Gary Hooper, who couldnt get a game for Southend's reserves when we signed him but has scored 50 in the last two seasons and looks like he's off to Celtic for the fat end of £2.5m.

So, all in all, if he's got the wherewithalls it's a move that will work out well and there will be few quid for everyone when he moves on - us with the big fee and you with the initial sale price and subsequent sell on.

One things that interests me though. His scoring record has shown a marked upward curve this season (i appreciate he hadnt played that many games for you prior to that point).

Has he been playing all season up front or switching between the wing and up front?

Best of luck anyway for next season

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ya got a real promising kid yon mate, will be missed big time here, as we are smaller club than you, know the script, hope the lad does well fer ya n hes a good kid to boot.:)

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first we've heard of this was this afternoon!Not heard a wisper from the club of any bids for any player as of yet ,its not even on the stanley web site:rolleyes:But you've got a good lad who plys his trade well:)

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:)Todays Telegraph latest on bobby!! Stanley hoping to get £250k fee:) Accrington hope for £250K for departing Grant (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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to be honest think stanley are undervaluing grant, 19 yrs old, many of his goal were not simple tap ins, reckon they should have been saying at least 100K more than that.:confused:

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:) i agree cashy but with todays market and the fact that hes out of contract £250k is more of a realistic price than we'd get from a tribunal hearing:)

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yeh but if ya don't ask ya dont get, tribunals aint the greatest places, chance of what they settle on being higher, if ya want a bit more surely?:confused:

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I'll be pleasantly surprised if we get as much as 250K.:)

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me to from a tribunal, thats why i think they should have said more.:)

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:) I would have thought £350k+ minimum!! But if stanley only rate Bobby at £200k:eek: as reported in the Telegraph, then £250k is most we could hope for unless other clubs step in and start a bidding war:D which would pump the fee up IMHO:)

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If Stanley rate him at 200k then I would think thats the maximum the tribunal would award. More often than not it's somewhere between the value of the club he is leaving and the value of the club he is joining, possibly with add-ons for appearances and selling on fees.

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Yes Andy,,,,,,,,,, Grant has been a striker more or less this season and has looked like a different player.

Previously he had been a bit part player on our left wing but never looked that great if im honest.

Some of his goals have been genuinely superb, and to me there is no doubt he can do a job in the Championship.


In terms of some people complaining about the club only giving players 1 year deals I do think that is abit short sighted. We all know the state of our finances and put quite simply the club wasnt in a position to offer more players 2 year deals. Especially as Symes & Grant at the beginning of the season where both on the bench !!! Remember that from the turn of the year Grant & Symes have both had deals on the table it has been up to them whether to sign or not.

I can understand them not signing but it is disappointing none the less.

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have they had deals though as coley and jb were suppose to sign deals and that took ages! we should have add ons like goals, sell on fee etc! if he keeps playing well could possible get england call up! now he's going be playing on divison below the primier league

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Have Coley and Jimmy signed their contracts? When did that happen?

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Gutted, & I think Bobby would have benefitted from one more season with us but can't blame him for wanting to take a shot at Championship football & wish him all the luck in the world at Scunthorpe, although maybe if Stanley hadn't stalled on offering him a contract he'd still be a red :(

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So, anybody care to enlighten me? When did Coley and Jimmy sign their contracts? Can't see owt about it on t'fishy site?

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I thought Grant and Symes had been offered deals in January for next season????


Plenty of time to make up their minds, but you cant stop them wanting to better themselves

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Not sure, it's all been a bit confusing - a few weeks ago in the paper Bobby said that he wanted to sign but was just waiting for his offer, he also said this at the presentation night on 1st May & yet in couple of articles in the paper recently it's been reported that the club were waiting to hear from both Bobby & Symes?????:confused:

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Thats true,aint much to choose between the Press n the Club is there?:D

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sum one from the club need to tell use whats going on .... we my lose more players this season

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Doubt if they know out final at this stage grimps, its more down to the player i think.:)

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I think they are both more or less gone thats obvious.

The signing of Kee MUST be a priority.

As well as another striker or 2!!

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Agree, hope they sign Billy, don't look very promising though.:( through no fault of the clubs.

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So, I take it Coley and Jimmy haven't signed their contracts?

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Nobody's told us if they have WH, it's about time they were sorted out though .......... maybe tomorrow :rolleyes:

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I thought you had been told, they are signing their contracts 'next week' and it is not 'next week' yet.

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...oh yes, of course, I forgot that O'Neill said it was "just a case of it being typed up and signed."

...on April 16th.

Is it really any wonder we can't keep players like Grant? :rolleyes:

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The burger van duo have been given a new deal so it's not all bad news:D:D

Good luck bobby you shall be missed:( ,Have fun at glumford park:p

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He has now, signed for Fleetwood today (sigh of relief, at least he won't be turning up on our doorstep now :rolleyes:)

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Great news AccyMad :)

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:( ITS OFFICAL NOW ON THE FISHY SITE :( Squad news
Tuesday 25th May 2010
http://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/gfx/news/ball.gifhttp://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/gfx/news/line.gif
Robert Grant agrees Scunthorpe deal
http://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/g...bert_grant.jpgRobert Grant is set to leave the Crown Ground after agreeing personal terms with Championship side Scunthorpe United.

The left footed winger who has played up front for much of this season had a medical yesterday and has now agreed a deal at Glanford Park.

Bobby was out of contract this summer however as he is under the age of 24 a fee will be payable to Accrington Stanley for our part in his development since he joined us in July 2006.

A product of our youth development programme at the club, the 19 year old has made 77 appearances for Stanley, netting 19 times, the majority of which have been in this last season.

Discussions have been ongoing over the last week or so however with the two clubs having differing opinions on his worth the fee now looks set to be decided by a tribunal.

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2 questions. (1) When will Tribunal Decide the Fee? (2) Will Coley be given this money, now the club aint in debt?

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great news for you bobby go and make us proud

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Looks like some good news has come out of it...

Accrington Stanley promise to hand Grant funds to Coleman (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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Just seen on SSN that Bobbys gone on a free. Surely cant be right?

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yep but its tempered wi bad news,:( Rob Heys says the tribunal may not be fer months, which dont help coley pre season.:(

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It is right, just the bosman ruling being he is under 24 gets us the cash, his contract expired at the end of the season

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Whats that supposed to mean? he wasn't even our player to begin with.:confused:

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Not sure of all the ins and outs of this bosman ruling, but it does mean even if the contract has ran out where the player was at, they will still get money off the players new club because he is under 24

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It's all here if you can be bothered:
FA Rules & Regs

(ii) There shall be no right to a compensation or transfer fee by the previous Club of a Player who has attained the age of 24 years on or before 30th June and whose contract with that Club has expired. If a Club wishes to offer re-engagement to a Player or exercise an option contained in the agreement the following practice shall prevail.

As Bobby Grant isn't 24 it looks like Stanley will get something out of it.

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Don't think his contract runs out until the end of next month and we have offered him a new contract so we are entitled to compensation (transfer fee). If we had not offered him a new contract we wouldn't be entitled to anything.

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cheers you 3 fer explanation was baffled.:o

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Plus the contract he was offered had to be of greater value (i.e. pay rise / more money ) than his previous contract.:o

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I would like to think so, but have me doubts.:eek:

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Belive that Coley and Jimmy
HAVE SIGNED CONTRACT....................
with EMI records for a new single titled
"Working on a shoestring" :theband::tongueout

ps Good luck to Bobby Grant, scored some spectacular goals :):)for Stanley that will live in memory until I get Alzheimer's:mad:

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Bit of something to mull over:

"In setting this compensation fee, the PFCC took into account the costs of training and development, the player's age and playing record, the length of time he was registered with his former club, the terms offered by both clubs, the fee paid by the former club in acquiring the player's original registration, the status of the two clubs and the interest shown by other clubs in acquiring the registration of the player."

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Scunthorpe have also signed Dagnall from rochdale on a free

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Blimey, That must hurt for 'Dale.

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is that now nailed on that symesy will def go there?

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aye Opens the door for Mr Symes to go to Dale

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Long as we get Kenny and Higginbotham in return :)

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symesy gone to bournemouth ive heard,tonight,