Kenny Arthur
 

Looks like Kenny has joined that 'big club' Grimsby

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Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Why is he going league lower for & why hasnt coley made a good bid for him :(

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

This is a real shame. Perhaps this shows to people who weren't already aware, the sheer lack of resources we have at our disposal. It also shows how much the club was operating beyond its means before last season. The fact is we have been unable to compete with a non-league team in the chase for two players' signatures. Good luck Coley, you're gunna need it!

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Damn & blast!! That's a real blow - really thought we'd sign Kenny back here - gutted :(

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That just about nails it Bang On IMHO. gutted Kenny went elsewhere, but understandable.:(

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

I don't think it shows the 'sheer lack of resources' at Stanley but indicates that Grimsby have money in the bank. Don't forget, Grimsby had the finances available to offer Stanley £100,000 for Symes last January. Not many league two teams would be able to do that.

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Grimsby will have lost floater fans and revenue after being relegated to non-league, shirley their budget has been adjusted accordingly and won't be offering the same wages as they were in the FL? Obviously they'll be better off than the vast majority of BSP teams, but they will still have had to downsize. The fact that we as a Football League club can't compete with Grimsby even after their scaled down budget really shows, to me anyway, how little we have to offer.

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

I agree.
Grimsby are unique in having both cash and a genuine ambition/chance of going straight back into league 2.

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Surely, whether they're non-league or not is irrelevant? I'll bet they've sold more season tickets than us and I'll bet their gates are higher than ours next season, so they'll simply have more financial resources at their disposal to offer more attractive wages than we can.

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

agree wi that also, but its still a slap in the kisser,when players go non league fer better money, simple fact.

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Sorry we've got Kempson and now Arthur. How do you rate these two? Can see you struggling to stay up next season? :(

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

We will always be a bigger club than you :thumbsup:

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Yep, it is, it's almost humiliating in a way. But seems to me it's a reflection of the way the balance has shifted over the years. BSP clubs like Grimsby, Luton, Wrexham and Cambridge can probably wield more financial clout than FL clubs like ourselves, Macc and Barnet. The one ray of light is the Daggers who have proved that it is possible to achieve success with gates similar to ourselves.

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Kenny is well loved by all oer here good keeper, opinions vary about kempson, if ya like the big boot ya will love him, personally i won't miss him. as fer us struggling next season......ya don't know coley, i'll reserve judgement until 4/5 games, as he usually pulls rabbits outa his hat.

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

But for all their financial clout, Luton, Wexham and Cambridge didn't win promotion back to the FL and there's no guarantee that Grimsby will do the same. If we, like Macc & Barnet, can live within our means and stay in the FL, that is the most important thing to me. Too many clubs have gone bust trying to chase promotion!

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Me too, but it's a fact of life that clubs like Grimsby will snatch players from under our noses because of a more attractive wage structure. Back in the bad old days, we would've probably offered Kenny money we couldn't afford to secure his services, but now we're living within our means this scenario may well become more familiar. As Cashy says, hopefully King Coley can work his magic!

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

May get into a bit of debt to return to the football league.

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

I'd rather be a small football league club than a big conference club. It won't be easy for you to get back into the football league there are a lot of good teams in the conference. As for Kempson I think he has found his level in the conference. Kenny Arthur is a good keeper but in both his seasons with Stanley he had spells out injured and last season with Rochdale he also had a spell out injured. He is well thought of at Stanley but if he was that good a keeper do you think that Rochdale would have let him go free with a year left on his contract?

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Yes. They were also stupid enough to be interested in Akpro, so anything is possible.

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Shame really but no doubt Grimsby where offering double our wages ie with Kempo.

Fingers crossed a Premier League/ Championship youngster on loan for the season ???

Elliott or Randolph anybody??? Hey we can all dream :)

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

I am not too gutted about this one, yes good keeper but as most folk agree more imperative to keep on an even keel at this stage of our re-birth.

There have been some very good and sensible posts scattered throughout the forum over the last few weeks about the infrastructure of the Club, players we can attract and players we can't, what improvements can be made to the Ground and what can't.

For me it is pretty simple go right back to basics with everything including budgets make sure we can sustain what we have but also have a common sense approach about it, then look to expand the horizons as we grow but that is not too say we don't still need to come across as a Professional Football League Club it is not always about appearance and fancy speak.

This Club first & foremost is a Family Club and that is something to be proud and needs to be neutred, the next stage is to become a Community Club where it encompasses the whole of Hynburn as not only their football club and something they want to be part of but the hub of activity after 5pm on a Saturday for the whole community.:)

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

i have every faith in coley but in the last few years he has had a better budjet than this year to go alongside his rabbit pulling as well as some tried and trusted players like mullin cav, richardson, craney(twice) edwards who where mainstays of the team. its going to be hard to assemble fairly new team. 1 or 2 rabbits quite possibly 5 or 6 is pushing it. at this rate am just gonna enjoy what could be our last season in the league( and i hope i am totally wrong). new signings dont look like they are gonna catch the imagination. if coley does it this year then it will surely be his greatest achievement

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Best post on the first page, couldn't be bothered to go to page 2. Who is to say Grimsby will get promotion straight back up. I think they, like Luton, Wrexham, York et al may struggle in the BSP. So these players want to play non-league football, so be it, no loss to Stanley, Coley and Jimmy have the passion and ambition to aim higher. Those who wanted to stay have re-signed. Those who had ideas above their station went to Bournemouth, some e.g. Bobby Grant at least waited until he was courted by a higher league club, but at least had the decency to say he would have signed for Stanley. I say no sad loss. Onwards and upwards with John and Jimmy

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

1 good thing about Grimsby is although we've been in decline over the past 10 years we've managed to get ourselves financially secure after the massive blow we took from ITV digital. Since then we've worked wonders off the pitch just not on it.. And for the wages, Fenty is giving it 1 season at the same rate of wage (a slight gamble maybe) if we don't go straight up then the budget will decrease.

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

I suppose if that happens then the money-grabbers like Kempson and Arthur will be in deep doo-doos. What a shame - I can feel my heart starting to bleed already!

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

in fairness mate, at least they will get a wage.:rolleyes:

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

who will what to play for us ..... no league players it will all be drop outs ... but will we stay up

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Are you JB in disguise.................................:D:rolley es::D

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Dear ozzy get your facts right mate before u have a moan which you are entitiled to by the way. anyone who signs a 1 year contract on poor money and has a good season in my book can move on or stay they have families has do we to surport and bills to pay,players will come and go,thats football,kempo had a decent season, the ultras sang his praises all season.

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Kempson and Arthur obviously went to grimsby to more money like anyone would, and players at stanley have not even been gettin paid on time now so who would want to join us? obviously not them... this is another effect of all the useless folk behind the scenes who do the day-to-day running, doesnt loook good to players who think about joining when they are being offered football league football yes but maybe not even a wage at the end of the month on time..

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Not getting paid on time?...I thought all that was behind us?

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Don't think we can be too harsh on anyone deciding not to join. Can you imagine JC's pitch:
"Right Kenny, we have less money than we had the last time you were here. The guy who calls himself the owner probably doesn't own the shares and has said he hasn't got the resources to take the club forward. The club nearly went out of existence twice last season and the supposed owner seemed to lack the means or will to save the club."
"But you and Jimmy are staying, right?"
"Well actually we're still waiting for the contracts we were promised months ago. They're still being typed"
"And the ground improvements"
"I'm told they're being started tomorrow"
"Hmm. Which way do I turn out of the car park to go to Lincolnshire?"

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Don't forget, other clubs have a goalkeeping coach as well.

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

At the RED goalkeeping academy we give keepers the chance to be their own boss ! Earning up to £20k a year !

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Rumours going its not so much in the past

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Vic, I was gutted to lose Symesy as well but, as I said a long time ago, I don't blame him for taking the opportunity to better himself, especially as, last year, we did not have sufficient faith in him to give him a longer deal. As it happened, I didn't think at the time that his pedigree deserved one, but we live and learn - to be fair to him. he exceeded all our expectations and has, unfortunately for us, moved on to a better standard (or so he hopes!) Whether he can cut it at that level remains to be seen, but I wish him well.
However, in spite of the fact that I agree with much of what you have said about him - as a provider as well as a goalscorer - I have to say that your regular "Michael Symes Appreciation Society" postings are starting to wear a little thin. He's gone, he's no longer a Stanley player - how good he is or was no longer has any relevance to this forum. The same might be said of Darren Kempson and Bobby Grant. (I personally feel that Bobby might struggle without Symesy alongside him, but we shall see.)
Darren, with the best will in the world is "nowt special" as he has proved over the years, wherever he has been, but I hope he finds a suitable niche at his "big club"

What we should be looking for now is for Coley to work his magic on Craig Lindfield, just as he did with Symes, so that, if Michael turns out to be no better than the player he was when Coley signed him, then it will already be too late and STANLEY will have moved on. He may then have to look to ply his trade at a "big" club like Grimsby. Let's just wait and see!

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

Vic, whilst not wishing to get into an argument, may I respectfully suggest you re-read my post. At no time am I moaning, I said something like there was no loyalty to Stanley, especially as we had given both Kempo and Symesy a chance. Yes both had good games and both had stinkers. Certainly for the last 3 months of the season, Symesy didn't do anything special and Kempo made one or two howlers. So did others (including my favourite player Phil Edwards). I cannot deride either player for wanting more money, we all do! Oh and if you are going to have a go, at least have the decency to do it in english not text speak.

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

The whole thing makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever

Re: Kenny Arthur
 

What; Stanley's predicament or text speak?

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PLEASE report any posts that have un decipherable text - text speak is not allowed & against forum rules! Any such posts if too much to edit will be removed! Poster has had pm explaining, if people report it will help me sort it out - cheers:D