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maccawozzagod 21-08-2010 18:42

D'on gone!
 
just what it says on the tin!!

:D

SamF 21-08-2010 18:43

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Source ?

maccawozzagod 21-08-2010 18:44

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some deliriously drunken fans in The Crown

as a result of the Ilyas board meeting today

shakermaker 21-08-2010 18:46

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Groovy.

mab 21-08-2010 18:47

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Is this correct Rob???

Stanleymad 21-08-2010 18:49

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A long 10 months later as your avatar displays - at last faith is restored.

shillelagh 21-08-2010 18:49

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stanleymad has posted it on her facebook page ...

Stanleymad 21-08-2010 18:50

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Yes mab it's correct :D

Tealeaf 21-08-2010 19:02

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Details, please...facebook sends me nuts.

lancsdave 21-08-2010 19:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 838871)
Details, please...facebook sends me nuts.

The details are at the Crown, the problem is can anyone type them up when they get home :D

Stanleymad 21-08-2010 19:09

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Got no further updates yet everyone seems to be celebrating ATM at the crown lol

Tealeaf 21-08-2010 19:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 838872)
The details are at the Crown, the problem is can anyone type them up when they get home :D


You sadist....

Nickelson 21-08-2010 19:11

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Epic news, I wish I was in Accrington at this moment in time.

Here is to getting the past of DON and EW behind us. To the future of ASFC.

Hopefully PM takesover if IK cannot.

sparkie 21-08-2010 19:12

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I slightly delerious UKCowboy rang me as soon as Ilyas landed in the crown and said O'neill resigned, Rob Heys has 'stepped up to the plate and within 3 months the club will be a community club.

Bagpuss 21-08-2010 19:13

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Excellent news but I want more, Whalleys name removed as owner to start.

lancsdave 21-08-2010 19:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sparkie (Post 838876)
I slightly delerious UKCowboy rang me as soon as Ilyas landed in the crown and said O'neill resigned, Rob Heys has 'stepped up to the plate and within 3 months the club will be a community club.


I'm pleased for Rob. I think he was dragged down in the mire, hopefully he will show what he can do.

Bagpuss 21-08-2010 19:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sparkie (Post 838876)
Rob Heys has 'stepped up to the plate'

What ???

Greeny 21-08-2010 19:17

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Thought D on was majority share holder?????

Stanleymad 21-08-2010 19:17

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I'm sure ilyas will ensure that it is done proper :)

lancsdave 21-08-2010 19:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greeny (Post 838880)
Thought D on was majority share holder?????


From what I understand from Ilyas's previous posts, the club is technically owned by creditors not shareholders

sparkie 21-08-2010 19:22

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oh and I forgot to mention that Ilyas wants to have the funding in place for a new stadium within the next 5 years!

Tealeaf 21-08-2010 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 838883)
From what I understand from Ilyas's previous posts, the club is technically owned by creditors not shareholders

Technically, the club is owned by the shareholders; but as Ilyas has said, if the club owes more than the club is worth, then it is the creditors who call the shots. And that, quite simply, is what has happened today. One call...goodnight, Mr O'Neil.

lancsdave 21-08-2010 19:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 838886)
Techniically, the club is owned by the shareholders; but as Ilyas as said, if the club owes more than the club is worth, then it is the creditors who call the shots. And that, quite simply, is what has happened today. One call...goodnight, Mr O'Neil.


I should have used the word effectively instead of technically, but at least you explained it better :D

Nickelson 21-08-2010 19:31

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In IK we trust, lets get this saga out of the road. Together we are Accrington Stanley. Just wish I was in Accrington at the moment.

lancsdave 21-08-2010 19:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickelson (Post 838888)
In IK we trust, lets get this saga out of the road. Together we are Accrington Stanley. Just wish I was in Accrington at the moment.

Even I'm getting round to liking the club again which is amazing considering what I was calling them earlier today :D

Shurm 21-08-2010 19:34

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Well thats a shock, good luck to Rob.

Grimps 21-08-2010 19:37

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yes yes yes yes bye bye bye good luck rob

Tealeaf 21-08-2010 19:39

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Did any of you lot up there make any notes, record any speeches, take any piccys..in any way document the momentous events of today?

I'm stuck in the smoke and really peeved off about missing all this...as I guess are about twenty thousand other exiles.

theresonlyoneaccy 21-08-2010 19:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sparkie (Post 838876)
I slightly delerious UKCowboy rang me as soon as Ilyas landed in the crown and said O'neill resigned, Rob Heys has 'stepped up to the plate and within 3 months the club will be a community club.


:alright:

Pendle Red 21-08-2010 19:40

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Wow that really is out of the Blue or am I just slow:confused:

I really do hope that this can be a fresh start for everyone involved in the Club and be the start of new exciting things and our focus can move away from matters off the pitch and go back to doing what we as fans do best which is support "Our Team":)

Bring on the Toon

lancsdave 21-08-2010 19:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimps (Post 838891)
yes yes yes yes bye bye bye good luck rob


Are you okay Grimps, that was very restrained :D

Billy Casper 21-08-2010 19:43

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cashman 21-08-2010 20:55

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Well Didn't think nowt could improve me good mood today..............But this news just has.:theband::Banane12: one door closes, another opens, can accept Rob Heys has been used as the organgrinders monkey, NOW hes the organgrinder n wish him well, Hope he proves me right.:):D;)

Kiwi John 21-08-2010 21:27

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WOW... what a last 7 hours or so in Accrington. !!
Good luck to you Rob Heys. I'm sure you'll do a great job.

maccawozzagod 21-08-2010 21:30

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i tried to start a new thread but cant for some reason (on my phone).

As much as many people will be glad that o.neil has gone, lets also try to remember that at least he tried. he also successfully professionalised much of the club infrastructure. In my opinion he was the wrong man in the wrong place and ended up out of his depth.
For various reasons i'm happy that the situation has come to a head and been resolved, but i'd also like to thank David for the good things that he did, and tried to do, and i wish him good luck in the future. I hope that the majority can also be respectful in their opinions of his departure.

And also the very best of luck to Rob, who has gone from terrace to head honcho in a few short years. i really hope that we can all show some faith in him and aid him where ever possible

Oldgobbin 21-08-2010 21:31

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I totally agree Rob. Well said.

VALAIRIAN 21-08-2010 21:40

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Spot on post Macca, Ilyas himself also thanked The DON, for what he has done for Stanley, it is about the future now, not the past, best of luck to Rob Heys, but most importantly of all - as Ilyas said in The Crown - we must all pull together and back both teams, players and staff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TOGETHER WE ARE STANLEY

:) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Doug 21-08-2010 21:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 838920)
i tried to start a new thread but cant for some reason (on my phone).

As much as many people will be glad that o.neil has gone, lets also try to remember that at least he tried. he also successfully professionalised much of the club infrastructure. In my opinion he was the wrong man in the wrong place and ended up out of his depth.
For various reasons i'm happy that the situation has come to a head and been resolved, but i'd also like to thank David for the good things that he did, and tried to do, and i wish him good luck in the future. I hope that the majority can also be respectful in their opinions of his departure.

And also the very best of luck to Rob, who has gone from terrace to head honcho in a few short years. i really hope that we can all show some faith in him and aid him where ever possible

Bit of a shock; but the Club must come first.

I totally agree with Rob's sentiment; owner or custodian good things have happened as Rob points out, let's hope we can all move on. Forward.

All the best Mr. O'Neil. Mr. Hays; you have a job to do, be proud and move forward. On, Stanley On!

BedsRed 21-08-2010 22:02

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Here's another happy exile. Today is a good day.
To echo Macca and others, thanks for your efforts Mr O'Neill but wrong bloke wrong time. Hopefully the lessons you learned here will stand you on good stead in the future.
Good luck Mr Heys. Let's hope you can emerge from the shadow of the don and the cardboard millionaire and that you're able to rebuild the trust between the club and the fans.
Can I suggest that the club take the time to speak to the people at Stockport and Notts County to see why community/fan ownership didn't work there, so that we learn from their mistakes?
Does anyone know where this leaves the formal ownership situation? Who owns the shares and are they amenable to this move?
And am I the only person who thinks that "The Ilyas Khan Stadium" has a nice ring about it for the new ground?

yonmon 21-08-2010 22:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BedsRed (Post 838935)
Here's another happy exile. Today is a good day.
To echo Macca and others, thanks for your efforts Mr O'Neill but wrong bloke wrong time. Hopefully the lessons you learned here will stand you on good stead in the future.
Good luck Mr Heys. Let's hope you can emerge from the shadow of the don and the cardboard millionaire and that you're able to rebuild the trust between the club and the fans.
Can I suggest that the club take the time to speak to the people at Stockport and Notts County to see why community/fan ownership didn't work there, so that we learn from their mistakes?
Does anyone know where this leaves the formal ownership situation? Who owns the shares and are they amenable to this move?
And am I the only person who thinks that "The Ilyas Khan Stadium" has a nice ring about it for the new ground?

No !...you are certainly not BR !...

But I expect that 'Ilyas's Pitch' will have to do for the time being !!...

Shurm 21-08-2010 22:36

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Now I've got over the shock, I'd just like to say I'm glad he's gone he lied to me he lied to the fans he's lied to everyone good riddance, the club can move forward now hopefully bridging the gap between fans and club.

I hope Rob can grasp the opportunity he now has to make a fresh start as I'm sure many will now think the slate is wiped clean.

All the best Rob and thank you Ilyas for all you have done to try and sort the club.

Bring on Newcastle !!!

Doug 21-08-2010 22:47

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For such a momentous occasion it’s a bit quite…..:)

ukcowboy 21-08-2010 22:51

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That's because for the first time in almost 2 yrs we can relax Doug. :)

cashman 21-08-2010 23:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shurm (Post 838945)
Now I've got over the shock, I'd just like to say I'm glad he's gone he lied to me he lied to the fans he's lied to everyone good riddance, the club can move forward now hopefully bridging the gap between fans and club.

I hope Rob can grasp the opportunity he now has to make a fresh start as I'm sure many will now think the slate is wiped clean.

All the best Rob and thank you Ilyas for all you have done to try and sort the club.

Bring on Newcastle !!!

I agree wi shurm simple as, whatever good that man did, was undone by all the "Lies" "Deceit" n "Bull" i wish him no harm but good riddance sums up very well.

DAV007 22-08-2010 00:07

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no tears shed.

selfish, self promoting, clueless, dreamer, incapable - need i go on.

This is Rob Heys chance to shine, he has been defended from alot of the blame by the good will of some fans, now he needs to prove himself. Lets hope for the sake of the club he can. All the best Rob.

This is brilliant and the best possible news ahead of the newcastle game.

I am confident, Coleman and Bell will be pleased.

A comunity club is the only viable long term prospect not just for stanley but for every club, not only does it bring football clubs to the heart of the community, but if adopted by all 92 clubs it makes the whole scene a level playing ground.

Lets hope Iylas gets the credit he deserves and represents us live on sky on wednesday as the chairman of the people.

Pendle Red 22-08-2010 06:34

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I agree with Rob's comments with regards David there are things that have been achieved in terms of making the Club more professional and sometimes we also forget that people also have lives away from the Club.

It's a big step up for Rob but one which should be viewed as natural progression I think the most important aspect besides he knows the Club inside out is that first & foremost for me if we are to achieve "Community Ownwership" he is a fan.

There probably now needs to be a short period of stabillity and Rob given time to adjust to his new role and for everyone else behind the scenes a chance to adjust to the new infrastucture.

loweiy 22-08-2010 08:05

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good luck rob

lancsdave 22-08-2010 08:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BedsRed (Post 838935)
Can I suggest that the club take the time to speak to the people at Stockport and Notts County to see why community/fan ownership didn't work there, so that we learn from their mistakes?

I'd love to know what defines a 'Community Club'

As everybody knows ( except Tealeaf :) ) that my first club is Burnley. They claim to be a 'community club'. Since the one shot at the big time they seem to make more decisions based on greed than community. So much so even when I have time to go I would think twice about giving them my money. I hope Stanley's version of a community club is a bit different

cashman 22-08-2010 08:45

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having had time to ponder, makes me wonder, who will be Rob Heys Number2? i assume the running of the club requires at least 2 people? would not like to see the man snookered, before he starts.:confused:

lancsdave 22-08-2010 08:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 839003)
having had time to ponder, makes me wonder, who will be Rob Heys Number2? i assume the running of the club requires at least 2 people? would not like to see the man snookered, before he starts.:confused:

I would think the club needs more coal face workers than top brass. Albeit time permitting the club still has a Chairman & Vice chairman and I'm sure there are people close to them who will be more than willing to be involved on a daily basis to help Rob out. At that level it should be more about communication than hands on. I would imagine also that any staff who have something about them will step up to the mark.

Outback Ozzy 22-08-2010 08:57

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Well the winds have well and truly blown through the club. I saw D'ON yesterday at the club and he looked as if he hadn't a care in the world, Now I know why. Thank you and goodbye. Would it now be possible to rid the club of the Cardboard cut out of the previous incumbent as his shares are worthless and as Ilyas has said, any value in these shares is owned by the people/companies we owe money too. It absolutely galls me to see that man who was once thought a saviour but very nearly brought the club to its knees and took it out of existence AGAIN entering any part of the club grounds. He may claim that the club owe him money, but to use a quote he once made "you wouldn't pay him in washers".

Pendle Red 22-08-2010 09:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 839000)
I'd love to know what defines a 'Community Club'

As everybody knows ( except Tealeaf :) ) that my first club is Burnley. They claim to be a 'community club'. Since the one shot at the big time they seem to make more decisions based on greed than community. So much so even when I have time to go I would think twice about giving them my money. I hope Stanley's version of a community club is a bit different

I suppose being from that neck of the woods I see that more than most, I suppose the key difference that will define is the "Community Ownership"?

What I will give great credit to the Clarets for is the level of support that the community side of the Club generates, a lot is deep rooted some of that goes back generations from father/mother to son/daughter etc. but certainly a lot of the credit must go to there Community Team who are everywhere involved in childrens education by the going into schools and then things like Summer Clubs it is something that is massively beneficial not just to the Children but to the Club in connecting at a very young age.

In fact the last time I went to the Doctors they had a local medical & well being film on which showed what a massive part the Clartes play in the local community promoting health & well being.

Stanley have made a similar move a few years ago and it is building and bringing more youngsters into contact with the Club which can't be a bad thing and after listening to Matt from the Community Taem at the OSC meeting a couple of months ago that will keep on bulding and flourishing and will be a key factor in years to come.:)

lancsdave 22-08-2010 09:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pendle Red (Post 839020)
I suppose the key difference that will define is the "Community Ownership"?


You gave them more credit than I did :D

Maybe I'll wait until there's a thread on community ownership before I wheel out my long answer to your post, I don't want to be accused of thread wandering too much :)

cashman 22-08-2010 09:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 839010)
I would think the club needs more coal face workers than top brass. Albeit time permitting the club still has a Chairman & Vice chairman and I'm sure there are people close to them who will be more than willing to be involved on a daily basis to help Rob out. At that level it should be more about communication than hands on. I would imagine also that any staff who have something about them will step up to the mark.

Don't dispute that dave, its more whats practical fer the clubs existence n well being,as regards being well run, to me, don't think we imagine or assume is that good a thing, though we all do it, Clarity as too the state of of play, is whats required,the best way too go forward, I.M.H.O.:);)

lancsdave 22-08-2010 09:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 839025)
Don't dispute that dave, its more whats practical fer the clubs existence n well being,as regards being well run, to me, don't think we imagine or assume is that good a thing, though we all do it, Clarity as too the state of of play, is whats required,the best way too go forward, I.M.H.O.:);)

Lets face it, every football fan in the country ( including us ) is an expert at running a club, should be a doddle.:rofl38:

Larry Lobster 22-08-2010 10:35

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Thought there might have been some sort of "official" mention of all of this on the website by now. Or is it all still a bit "cloak and dagger"? A bit more transparency would be appreciated by many I'm sure.:hothothot

VALAIRIAN 22-08-2010 10:41

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No cloak or dagger my friend, it was all public in The Crown last night!! :)

DAV007 22-08-2010 10:46

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any more details from the meeting?

ukcowboy 22-08-2010 10:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Lobster (Post 839070)
Thought there might have been some sort of "official" mention of all of this on the website by now. Or is it all still a bit "cloak and dagger"? A bit more transparency would be appreciated by many I'm sure.:hothothot

With the enormity of yesterdays announcements I expect that it will tale a day or so to write it up and place it on the fishy site. This is purely conjecture on my part as I have no inside knowledge :):)

Stanleymad 22-08-2010 10:56

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Well no doubt there's sore heads this morning after a celebratory day yesterday but hope the official update will happen soon as not every fan could be there in an already packed crown pub.

Tealeaf 22-08-2010 11:16

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The LT posted the story about an hour ago, but they're referring to '..reports as being unconfirmed'. Just typical of the LT.....


Drama at Accrington Stanley board meeting (From Lancashire Telegraph)

yonmon 22-08-2010 11:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 839085)
The LT posted the story about an hour ago, but they're referring to '..reports as being unconfirmed'. Just typical of the LT.....


Drama at Accrington Stanley board meeting (From Lancashire Telegraph)

An 'unconfirmed' Drama ??...abysmal Journalism !.

Oldgobbin 22-08-2010 11:35

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Don't knock it, Tealeaf. At least it puts something down in print. Up to now, those of us who live away from Accy have had to make do with scraps thrown from those who were at the Crown last night. The promised details about the Board Meeting have not been forthcoming, we know that Rob Heys has "stepped up to the plate", whatever that might mean, but when it comes to facts, we know nothing apart from the fact that D'On has, allegedly "gone". I, along with many other exiles I'm sure, have been scanning this forum since last night in the hope of any concrete information. So far, however, nothing has been forthcoming, so thanks to the Telegraph for at least giving SOME substance to the story.

Tealeaf 22-08-2010 11:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldgobbin (Post 839089)
Don't knock it, Tealeaf. At least it puts something down in print. Up to now, those of us who live away from Accy have had to make do with scraps thrown from those who were at the Crown last night. The promised details about the Board Meeting have not been forthcoming, we know that Rob Heys has "stepped up to the plate", whatever that might mean, but when it comes to facts, we know nothing apart from the fact that D'On has, allegedly "gone". I, along with many other exiles I'm sure, have been scanning this forum since last night in the hope of any concrete information. So far, however, nothing has been forthcoming, so thanks to the Telegraph for at least giving SOME substance to the story.

Well, as someone else who lives away from Accy then I also rely on the LT website as well as this, as a source of local news. The problem with the LT is that it's journalistic standards are not of the highest order. Take the aforesaid article...it begins by saying the directors meeting ended in drama. How do they know it ended in drama? The drama lies in DON's resignation..if the LT have not yet got confirmation of that resignation then there is no drama. So what have they to add, other than what we know already?

Doug 22-08-2010 12:24

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I have to agree; I had expected that a situation of such enormity would have brought forth some form of official announcement. Mr. O'Neil has been the focus of much criticism over his handling of ASFC affairs and for is lack of communication and transparency with the fans/community.

I had hoped that by this time there would have been some marginal reference from those involved in view of the promises of openness and transparency.

However, I can except that it is Sunday Lunch and the night before would have been a fantastic occasion for those lucky enough to be there. But come on; some of us are wetting ourselves to know the facts.

cashman 22-08-2010 12:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug (Post 839102)

However, I can except that it is Sunday Lunch and the night before would have been a fantastic occasion for those lucky enough to be there. But come on; some of us are wetting ourselves to know the facts.

Thats just yer age Doug, incontinence pants is what ya need.:D:D

ukcowboy 22-08-2010 12:49

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Ok Doug et all, here is what I recall from lastnights goings on at the Crown. I think I've got most of it but as I was rather tipsy I may not be 100% on everything, perhaps someone else will correct any mistakes :)

Well where do I begin? Last night in the Crown honestly felt like Christmas had come early for almost everyone who was there!!

Ilyas first said that the club was now ontrack to become a proper 'community club' that would in time belong to the 'townsfolk of Accrington', a number of new shares would be made available in the coming months (100,000)ish at an affordable price and with payment options for those who would struggle to pay outright for them. He then announced that Peter Marsden was the new club President, a move that was met with a round of applause. He then went on to say that He (Ilyas) would be working with the council to find us a new 'home' and that He would fund the building of a new Stadium. All monies that have been put in by Ilyas and Peter are NOT loans but DONATIONS that will not be repayable regardless, cue another round of applause. Finally He went on to say that D'on had resigned and would have no further input into Asfc. Rob Heys would step up to the plate and remain CEO in overall charge of the day to day running of the club with guidance from both Ilyas and Peter, he also encouraged Rob to look to hire a professional manager to help. JC and JB will be given contracts as a matter of urgency (large cheers all-round). JC would also be given a substantial transfer budget to bring in players in the Jan window. He asked us all to suppport Rob in his new position and the rest of the staff. Then it was time to party lol.

I hope this is of some help to you.

Stanleymad 22-08-2010 12:59

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What about whalley ?

ukcowboy 22-08-2010 13:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 839107)
What about whalley ?

Surprsingly his name never came up.

Stanleymad 22-08-2010 13:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukcowboy (Post 839108)
Surprsingly his name never came up.

So the changes are going to be registered officially, I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned he was there at club sweating lol

cashman 22-08-2010 13:06

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Cheers fer that update U.K. cashy is even happier now.:):):):):)

ukcowboy 22-08-2010 13:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 839110)
Cheers fer that update U.K. cashy is even happier now.:):):):):)

Not as happy as I was after numreous pints of mild last night!!

Doug 22-08-2010 13:41

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Cheer's Pete, fantastic news if it is substantiated by an official statement, I don't doubt you Pete; nor do I doubt the sincerity of Peter and Ilyas, but 3 points on the day, 3 clean sheets and the all of the Crown three sheets on Yonmon's ship does not constitute a clear picture for those of us outside the town.

I can understand that Peter, Ilyas and Rob would need time to draft a suitable statement and nail down the facts before going public, so I give way.

The Whalley issue needs to be cleared up fast though....

What a fantastic future for the Club and the Town.

ukcowboy 22-08-2010 13:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug (Post 839115)
Cheer's Pete, fantastic news if it is substantiated by an official statement, I don't doubt you Pete; nor do I doubt the sincerity of Peter and Ilyas, but 3 points on the day, 3 clean sheets and the all of the Crown three sheets on Yonmon's ship does not constitute a clear picture for those of us outside the town.

I can understand that Peter, Ilyas and Rob would need time to draft a suitable statement and nail down the facts before going public, so I give way.

The Whalley issue needs to be cleared up fast though....

What a fantastic future for the Club and the Town.

Hence the reason I refrained from posting last night......................;)

mab 22-08-2010 13:52

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:)Am i right in thinking a new share issue of 100k would devalue mr whalleys 51% stake in Accrington Stanley and their fore remove him as the major share holder??

ukcowboy 22-08-2010 13:55

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Originally Posted by mab (Post 839117)
:)Am i right in thinking a new share issue of 100k would devalue mr whalleys 51% stake in Accrington Stanley and their fore remove him as the major share holder??

I think you are correct in that Mab, however the issue of EW's shares etc didnt come up last night.............no doubt it will out soon enough!

mab 22-08-2010 13:58

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Originally Posted by ukcowboy (Post 839118)
I think you are correct in that Mab, however the issue of EW's shares etc didnt come up last night.............no doubt it will out soon enough!

:) Cheers Pete :)

Pendle Red 22-08-2010 14:54

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I know we are probably all interested to see what any Official Statement says but I also think in fairness to the Club and it's employees it must be like living in a Goldfish Bowl at times where everyone wants to see what is going on.

But the Club as an employer has a right to probably speak to it's staff first & foremost, bearing also in mind it is a weekend after a game and perparations are probably in full swing for arguably the biggest game in the Club's History coming up in mid week.

These are only my thoughts and I am sure in time all will become clear.

cashman 22-08-2010 15:24

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Originally Posted by ukcowboy (Post 839116)
Hence the reason I refrained from posting last night......................;)

Or the fact ya were too blitzed?:D;)

cashman 22-08-2010 15:26

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Originally Posted by mab (Post 839117)
:)Am i right in thinking a new share issue of 100k would devalue mr whalleys 51% stake in Accrington Stanley and their fore remove him as the major share holder??

Things just keep getting better, if thats right, its better than a lottery win.:alright:

mab 22-08-2010 15:33

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Originally Posted by Pendle Red (Post 839136)
I know we are probably all interested to see what any Official Statement says but I also think in fairness to the Club and it's employees it must be like living in a Goldfish Bowl at times where everyone wants to see what is going on.

But the Club as an employer has a right to probably speak to it's staff first & foremost, bearing also in mind it is a weekend after a game and perparations are probably in full swing for arguably the biggest game in the Club's History coming up in mid week.

These are only my thoughts and I am sure in time all will become clear.

I think you'l find that neally all if not all know about whats happend to Mr ONeill Google Page Ranking!!

maccawozzagod 22-08-2010 17:28

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i would imagine that the previously approved share issue was officially given the in ahead to happen. Ilyas and Peter obviously wanted it to happen and Rob would have had the casting vote to push it through. I reckon don threw his hat in at that point. Eric or Don, it doesn't matter anymore - their 51 will now be worth 25? 10? Dunno, but their influence will now be significantly diluted. We can now look forwards to a significant cash influx when the shares are ready for sale.

I think that 'the fans' would probably only purchase a small amount of shares and that we'll be hoping for some decent bulk buying from the business sector. I'd like to see the council take some kind of fiscal interest in this move as well. I'm more than made up with the promise that installments can be made as this will probably double the pittance that i can afford to chip in! I would suspect that it will also aid the budgeting of the many businesses that we will want to get involved.

lancsdave 22-08-2010 17:49

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 839159)
I would suspect that it will also aid the budgeting of the many businesses that we will want to get involved.


I would think the fact that businesses would want to get involved would be an unexpected bonus, they have hardly be queuing up recently :rolleyes:

maccawozzagod 22-08-2010 18:03

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I would imagine there'll be a lot more confidence around the town now that things have changed. Also the announcements, depending how they're done, that the 'Community' will own the club, that we'll do more for the people rather than people doing everything for us, and that a new stadium build is practically around the corner, will instill further confidence.

To cite an example, Graham Charnley at Interlink used to put a lot of money into the club but got nowt back and was disillusioned at the shambolic way we operated. Maybe a new found confidence in the club could inspire him to come back? maybe rather than drip feeding 20k here and there he would prefer to come in and purchase a block of £100k worth of shares? Like I said it's only an example of a person and I'd be in no way insinuating that he would or should. But he could?

Stanleymad 22-08-2010 18:12

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Lots of reassurance will be needed externally for business interest, also note ossie mills is moving back out of town centre and no proper utilidge of promoting Stanley where the locals are, some do find the dredge up to the crown a put off but do want to part with their cash into our club.

baldy 22-08-2010 18:30

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[quote=maccawozzagod;839168]that a new stadium build is practically around the corner, will instill further confidence.quote]

Any mention of where?

sherry 22-08-2010 18:38

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No mention and I think that 'round the corner' may be 3 - 4 years down the line.

As for Rob having the casting vote wouldn't he have to have been a director?

maccawozzagod 22-08-2010 18:42

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as CEO does he not get that anyway? as would the company secretary?

Pendle Red 22-08-2010 19:05

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The long term benefits of the Council linking up with the Club could be with Leisure facilties that would benefit not just the Club but maybe the whole of Accrington by usage of the community at large and probably produce other spin offs.

But with fiscal tightening around most Communities and Councils who knows where we will be when the time comes?

I am not too familiar with the Leisure facilities and how modern they are in Hynburn and whether it would be beneficial?

That is for now further down the line

maccawozzagod 22-08-2010 19:21

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a lot depnds on where any new ground would be. Away from where it is now would you be looking at an area where one would need to drive to? if so then the leisure, corporate, function facilities would have to be A1 top drawer stuff as you are competing with every other 'drive to' facility. If, for example, the ground remained where it is then you are looking at providing something (slightly above) adequate for the needs of the thousand or so people who live within a ten minute walk.

Even more down the line though, but much lies within the vision that Ilyas has. If he is prepared to bank roll it then it can be whatever it wants to be, but his written vision on here at the beginning of summer was that it would be something that lies within the remit of both LCC and HBC, in order to maintain their long term interest. Grants from a plethora of public bodies will be available, outside of the LEGI requirement of all seater stadia etc. Does he need the money from these bodies in order to maintain their interest? and does that come at any cost? He will have done his homework before the first shovel is lifted and I have more than every confidence it would be done in the best manner possible.

I just hope he doesn't have a twin brother that he wants to dedicate the ground to, can you imagine the KHAN TWIN STADIUM? :p

lancsdave 22-08-2010 19:25

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 839199)
can you imagine the KHAN TWIN STADIUM? :p


Don't give up the day job :D

maccawozzagod 22-08-2010 19:41

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i'll get me coat ... :do-one:

smudgie 22-08-2010 19:44

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Well having taken 24 hours to think about the situation........ WHAT A RESULT.

Gutted I wasnt there to witness the Crown last night, bloody work !!

But agreed with Dav (again), no tears shed from me over DON, he was a man out of his depth that blatently lied to us, THE FANS, as did Heys, for which I will never forgive either of them.

Words just cant be said for the legend that is Ilyas Khan. He will forever be my hero.

I will leave the complicated share holder/ issues to more knowlegable people than myself, but all we need now is that smug cardboard prat to be removed from the lounge on matchdays and the story is complete as far as im concerned.

Agreed the 1st priority is the team and to make sure Coley has everything he needs, but secondly the ground MUST be sorted ASAP in my opinion. A new stadium would be excellent, somewhere along the lines of Buron Albion's ground would do me fine :)

Oh and as for the game, gutted I missed it, but well done Mr Mcconville, not a bad way to silence the critics (including me) !!

Sky Sports Story to come this week.

ON STANLEY ON

sherry 22-08-2010 20:55

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Neither the CEO nor the Company Secretary qualify automatically for a vote - they have to be directors as well.

cashman 22-08-2010 21:14

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A new stadium is the future,simple as, have no doubt it will materialize at some future date, whats required now is fer trust to be rebuilt between the club @ public/ business, handled right i'm certain it can be done,Rob Heys has one hell of a job, but sure he can achieve it,with help, that is vital,i'm sure J.C. @ J.B. will have a great boost when the dust settles n that can only be positive fer the club, what has happened has restored my faith in the Club as a whole,already had it in coley n the lads.:alright:

shakermaker 22-08-2010 21:36

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I'm just glad that the pantomime of goodies, baddies, factions and frictions is over.

2010/11 is going to be one special season for our club. I can feel it in me water.

Bring on the Geordies.

(6-0? Pah. That was in their own back yard against losers from Brum. Wait 'til we get 'em on t'Crown!)

bdc 22-08-2010 23:12

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I think it is great that DON has left the club, however it is imperative that we are rid of EW to truly move the club forward. In my eyes if that means issuing 1million new shares at 1pence each then it would be worth doing if only to bring his shareholding down to nothing.

DON was always on a hiding to nothing the minute he started lying about the HMRC fiasco. To be fair to him though he did put a decent infastructure together for the day to day running including bring Lew back. I feel that we should use this to our advantage and make sure that we keep these key personnel to keep moving forward especially Lew who has done a great job in raising the clubs profile for the retail side of the business.

As for the future, its looks a lot rosier than it did 24 hours ago. It is great that steps are to be taken to help the fans have a say in running the club, this is the first step on a long journey to the promised land! I think that we should increase JC's playing budget but I hope that the long-term strategy is to ensure natural growth for the club to help increase money available through commercial viability instead of Iylas having to help the club out. I think this wont happen overnight but it is achievable in the next 5 years. There is certainly an opportunity available to exploit the cheaper end of the market, people will be looking more to get value for money during this difficult time as they will have less money available for enjoyment so to speak.

The easiest things to do straightaway is to get a ground sponsor on board and perhaps look to buy a supporters coach so that away travel can be made more accessible at a reduced price. This may encourage more fans to go to more away games. I would also end the shambles involving the pricing structure of tickets on the gate being £2 more expensive. I feel that this is something that will discourage walk ons and roaming supporters, I think starting a loyalty scheme and a refer a friend scheme may help to increase gates and spending in the club shop. Looking further afield I feel that the Lincoln game would be a perfect time to offer the season ticket holders of other clubs entry for £5. This would ensure a crowd of around 2500 to 3000 perhaps. One final thing could be to sponsor the clock, whereby each person pays a fixed amount of money to sponsor one minute of a game and if the first goal is scored in their minute then they receive a cash prize. If nobody scores then the money would be rolled over to the next game.

One final thing is just to say thanks to Ilyas to giving the supporters real reason to be hopeful for the future.

cashman 22-08-2010 23:20

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Originally Posted by bdc (Post 839263)

DON was always on a hiding to nothing the minute he started lying about the HMRC fiasco.

One final thing is just to say thanks to Ilyas to giving the supporters real reason to be hopeful for the future.

I think nowt else needs to be said after the sentence above, Trust is paramount, lose it yer knackered.;)

Outback Ozzy 23-08-2010 07:43

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Originally Posted by bdc (Post 839263)
however it is imperative that we are rid of EW to truly move the club forward. In my eyes if that means issuing 1million new shares at 1pence each then it would be worth doing if only to bring his shareholding down to nothing.

Lew who has done a great job in raising the clubs profile for the retail side of the business.

The easiest things to do straightaway is to get a ground sponsor. I would also end the shambles involving the pricing structure of tickets on the gate being £2 more expensive. I feel that this is something that will discourage walk ons and roaming supporters, I think starting a loyalty scheme and a refer a friend scheme may help to increase gates and spending in the club shop.

One final thing could be to sponsor the clock, whereby each person pays a fixed amount of money to sponsor one minute of a game and if the first goal is scored in their minute then they receive a cash prize. If nobody scores then the money would be rolled over to the next game.

One final thing is just to say thanks to Ilyas to giving the supporters real reason to be hopeful for the future.

As has already been said, It does not matter how many shares or what percentage EW owns, they are worth nowt when the club is in reality owned by its creditors! However, with the new share issue, whoever buys them will dilute the shareholding of the cardboard one!

Long may it continue.

Agreed, but as regards charging £2 extra for walk ons, I'm not sure this is happening yet! The loyalty scheme is a good idea and no doubt will be picked up by the club when either Lew or Rob or whoever reads the board.

Nice idea, again lets hope someone from the CEO downward reads this and takes it on board at the club.

and finally - so says every true fan of Accrington Stanley.

Bring on the Toon - never looked forward to a match sooooo much

:theband: :thankya::hothothot

JEFF 23-08-2010 09:17

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Now that Rob Heys is in charge I hope that he grows some balls and stops Whalley from coming to the ground a few times a week and also stops telling lies. Remember, it was Rob Heys who told us blatant lies at the fans' forum last year.


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