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Firstly, I'd just like to congratulate you on the victory last night, you played some nice football but quite frankly, we wer just embarrassingly bad!
I was just wondering if you could clear an issue up for me, I'm not going to type it out again so I'll just link you to it. Apologies if there's already a thread regading flags but I haven't really had a proper look :D
Viewing a thread - Flags - I had to bring it up!

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The ban had come in force this week at the crown ground so even our beloved ultras cant bring flags in anymore - something to do with H&S & council but not 100% on facts.

Despite the lack of colour the support wasnt dampened & made up for it with the noise :)

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There's a bit about it in the match thread. The council and the club safety officers have got a bee in their bonnet about h&s and seem hell bent on ruining the unique atmosphere at our club. The stewards are probably only doing what they have been told but to be threatened with ejection is probably par for the course for the power crazy jobsworths. The memorial on the other hand is for a well loved stanley at heart fan who recently passed and quite rightly should be 'exempt' - although the ridiculous rules have no basis in h&s we have to follow them until common sense prevails. Sorry about your flags it would not be what the fans wanted to happen.

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I wondered why there were no Flags it didn't dampen the atmosphere last night but the flags normally create a sea of colour not always visible when you are in the Clayton End itself but certainly in the main stand and it must spur the players on when they come out to a colourful & noisy Clayton End while perhaps having the opposite effect on away clubs?

The other strange one last night was being frisked before we entered the turnstiles at the Clayton End?

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the flags were missed last night, shame but stupidity seems to rule these days.:rolleyes:

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:) Flags at home matchs.. its not the safty officer as on or two have said he ie Mick Schultz,has no opption but to inforce this H@S Issue!! Its been forced on the club by L.C.C who requirer safty certificats for all the fags.If they where treated with a fire retardent then their is'nt an issue.as far as i know Mick has e-mailed jase bout this some wks ago and hasdiscust this with him as well:)so for the flagsto return they must be treated.

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well aware of who its down too mab, its still rank stupidity.:mad:

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Thanks for the replies. If it is due to the problems with fire, then I think we should have been allowed our fire retardant flags in . . . surely?

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Liverpool get around the "rules", so have Stanley for 10 seasons whilst we built our huge portfolio of colour. Stanley don't want to, simple, they tried to ban them last year & failed, Now they hide behind H&S ....

Stanley Ultras don't want to bolt seats in, remove snow nor trudge around North West towns shaking buckets....

Touche Amigos.

Cutting your nose off to spite your face, banners will be at Vale Park.... The mind boggles

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Don't blame yas, yeh never know jase, one day wi proper people running the show, things may change.

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Hopefully as soon a possible Cashman!

Im never helping clear snow, bolt in seats, help with the ground etc ever again until they wake up and smell the coffee and get their acts together!

Its a joke , it really is! You`ve got more chance of setting fire to your greasy chip box!

What next? Fireproof clothes as they are flammable! Il go watch Stanley home and away but that's all, they can kiss my ass with everything else. If only off the field was as good as on it! Normally its the other way round or both together!

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But it is NOT the club who are banning the flags, it is LCC and HBC Health and Safety officerswho are enforcing this ban. Mick if anything was fighting the fans corner. Please do not blame the club IT IS NOT THEM

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It is the lack of public support or even lack of showing awareness to the fans that has led to the opinion that the club is to blame. The fact that away fans are not aware they can't bring flags, the fact that a simple explanation of the h&s situation and an apology to fans for the resulting flag ban has not been made. The apparent lack of empathy for a group of fans often acknowledged as the team's 12th man. No details in public to stress what lengths they have gone to to try and ensure the flags can stay. It seems as though the club have just laid down and let the powers that be enforce the situation instead of putting up a fight in the name of common sense. This is why the club are at fault. Other clubs do not have these issues. It is not because we are being persecuted it is because the club have accepted it without trying to argue against it (apparently)

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why not take them up coating applications up huncoat have word wi the manager they might like the free publicity;)

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This is the issue Outback Ozzy, the other question is what do they ban next, fat supporters in case the seats collapse???;)

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doesn't seem a lot of point if the Lincoln fans couldn't take theirs in with the appropriate certification

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Another example ofthe spinless nature of the current management of ASFC.

And people still back Rob Heys!

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what about clarity does and donts and why ?? they even let flags into ibrox these days after the kerfuffle with the police and stewards there.just cant sing our own songs:rolleyes:

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Well at least we can't blame Whalley for this, mind you is it a coincidence that it happens just as Whalleys face has returned.;):rolleyes:

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I understood it that some LCC official was watching Stanley V Newcastle on Sky when some smoke flairs were set off , this is why the banners, flags etc are no longer allowed.but that won't dampen Stanleys spirit,we won't let it.
When I went to Burnley for the SOS Mr Coyle did,I took my Stanley flag and had the stick removed at the gate for H& S,pathetic isn't it.

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whist i agree the flares were not the brightest move, this smacks of a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.:rolleyes:

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Without the flags and banners the Clayton End looked like any other ground no fans colourless terrace, it has to be said, sorry.

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I was shocked and disappointed to hear of the flags ban on friday night. :mad::eek: Yes the atmosphere generated was still superb, but to the players and the fans around the rest of the ground the absence of the famous Ultrs flag show must have been a massive disappointment.:mad::( I don't think it matters who is responsible for the ban except to say that they are IDIOTS!!http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/i...ons/icon13.gif
I have replied on another post my views about smoke flares and I will repeat again here that they should not and must not appear on our ground again.:dflam: :stop:Take the flares away and ask the question then about the risk of fire? Answer - There will be absolutely NO fire risk as the ground is a NO SMOKING area. So why do flags or any other material need to be "Fire proof"? Our scarves and stanley shirts, trousers and undies might be the next to banned!!! Come to think of it my undies were on fire this morning after that curry last night! The world is going PC political corrctness mad. It is time we got back to basics and in football that means;
Sensible prices.
Standing on terraces.
Lots of noise.
Lots of colour, flags scarves and all.
Commom sense and good behaviour.
...and a hoarse voice at the end of every match.:laugh8::laugh8::signbeer::end:

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Great great post choirboy. If the whole scenario is not to be blamed on the club then that post is PRECISELY what mick and the safety team should have said in public to lcc/hbc in defence of the flags. IF they have then I apologise - but I urge them to let us know they did all they could. A note in the programme along the lines of 'the club apologise but we are not permitting flags because........despite the fact that we said..........we will continue to press lcc/hbc to have these restrictions removed...........etc.' is all it would have taken / will take. Like others I suspect that the club are hiding behind h&s for reasons I cannot comprehend - but to those defending the club - I ask why they can't even bring an explanation to the public (not least disillusioned away fans or potential new fans coming to the crown)

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Has there ever actually been, at any ground in the country, any occurrence whereby flags have caused a person to be injured in any way? I would be very surprised if there has been...

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To my mind its cos those at the head, don't really give a toss about the ordinary fan, unless they want Dosh, Help wi snow Etc, Seats Bolting, n other manual tasks, thats already been proved to me wi the lies told before the court hearing. n anyone can't see that is dumb.

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Depends who's in charge.:D

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I suspect the Stalinist at LCC would like to ban Last Night of the proms, never mind the flags.

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Just found this yet again HSE come to the rescue

Myth: Health and safety bans bunting

Why does the club not look at things like this

:tongueout:tongueout:tongueout

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suggest ya e-mail that to the powers that be at the club.;)

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Probably a combination of flags and flares would be a risk

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There should be a risk assessment done at the club about flags if there is a risk of fire.....

Have asked for it...

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Be interesting to see how many flags/banners make there way into Turf Moor tonight to welcome the return of the Messiah!!!! :rolleyes:

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You mean Judas... I'm fireproofing some rocks as we speak :)

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just read the telegraph article online, 21 have commented already, not all are stanley fans, NOT 1 in favour of this ridiculous ban. the club are shooting themselves in the foot n by the silence ( except fer M.S. dumb comment) are too thick to see it.:mad:

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the story was printed in the Mirror and Daily Sport as well.

Apparently the club are none too happy at the ban, as it has been mentioned by visiting neutrals that one of the reasons they visit is to witness The Ultras in full flow.

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Fans would understand IF the club has had it's hand forced AND they were open and honest enough to tell us that they disagreed with the ban.

If this is the case they need to let the fans know pronto as the silence so far is being interpreted as support for this ridiculous situation

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Have read Lincoln Fans could not bring there fireproof flags in, would like the club to comment on the reason, if true that is even stupider.:rolleyes:

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I wonder, if at some point in the near future, the Ultra's were to bring into the Clayton End, a number of small, fire retardant and fully compliant banners, each plastered with one of the following letters:

O' ENIL MUST OG

or letters to that effect, if the club would then ban them?

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i know i'm a cynical get, but this may be a plan to alienate the "Ultras" brass them off, gates fall, what good would a new stadium be?:eek: nowt would surprise me wi these clowns.:(

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Yeah, thats the reason I put this on. I normally don't believe in conspiracy theories, but there is something odd about this ban. It certainly does give the O'Neil regime opportunity to prempt any unfavourable demonstration against them.

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in one breath you say they couldnt organise a pee up in a brewery in the next you think they are plotting to unsettle the ultras?

I aint for or against anyone in particular but come on....

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not so john, said it wouldn't surprise me of those 2.

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Just watched Match of Day, loads of flags n banners at anfield, seems to me the liverpool management are helpful to their fans.:rolleyes:

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You are correct Cashman.

There must be one rule for everyone; for example the rule regarding alcohol pitch side applies to everyone.
A rule regarding flags which is accepted and enforced universal is required.

And they should be allowed, in any part of the ground, provided its a suitable pole.

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i think we should leave the Eastern Europeans out of it, it's only gonna complicate the issue!

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I read it in the paper and thought i'd pop on to say what a load of it is .. GTFC have had our drum banned from night games and we always get our sticks off our flags taken off us