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Once upon a time there was a little football club it was allegedly owned by Cheating Clitheroe, or was it owned by Next Week Neill (aka Billy Liar), I don’t really know, but anyway they both ran the club with the help of Puppet on a String.
The football club wasn’t doing very well and was in danger of being wound up by the taxman so Cheating Clitheroe decided to desert a sinking ship and went. Next Week Neill (aka Billy Liar) and Puppet on a String assured the supporters and the public that the football club would survive and that there wasn’t a problem. Anyway, the supporters, being a kindly bunch, raised money to give to the club to pay the taxman, other football clubs and football supporters also helped, in fact, everybody helped except Cheating Clitheroe, Next Week Neill (aka Billy Liar), and Puppet on a String. The day of the execution came. Cheating Clitheroe sat in the office at the club waiting for the phone call to say that it was all over. But, unknown to him, the Knight in Shining Armour and his sidekick had ridden to the court, paid the bills and saved the club.
Time passed and Next Week Neill (aka Billy Liar) and Puppet on a String were left to run the club. Time and time again they messed up, but Knight in Shining Armour and his sidekick trusted them and left them to do it. The season ended.
The next season started and the club had a new pitch which was known as Knight in Shining Armour’s pitch. The team were doing well and a cup tie against a big club brought in plenty of money. Guess what. Cheating Clitheroe came back onto the scene. I wonder why. Anyway, Knight in Shining Armour trusted him and even allowed him to travel with the players to away games.
Knight in Shining Armour then had a brainwave – “What if I build the club a new ground, gain control of the club and give it to the fans” he thought.
Does this all sound familiar? I thought it might.

Well, this being a fairy tale there are two endings.

Knight in Shining Armour gained control of the club, he built a new ground for the club, gave it all to the fans and everybody lived happy ever after

OR

Behind Knight in Shining Armour’s back, Cheating Clitheroe, Next Week Neill (aka Billy Liar), and Puppet on a String were planning to stab Knight in Shining Armour in the back. “Let’s ruin the club and then save it” they decided. First of all the club got thrown out of a cup competition, then they upset the loyal fans by banning their flags, then they upset the players by paying them late, then they didn’t pay the taxman on time and got another embargo and winding-up order, finally Cheating Clitheroe demanded re-payment of his loans. The club, now not being able to afford this, were forced into administration and Knight in Shining Armour was blamed. Cheating Clitheroe, Next Week Neill (aka Billy Liar) and Puppet on a String saved the club from the administrator, told the supporters that the club could not afford to play in the Football League and returned to Non-League football where Cheating Clitheroe felt safe and had re-gained control of his toy.

This happened because most of the fans at the time said “I’m not interested what happens in the Boardroom, let them get on with it. All I’m interested in is what happens on the pitch”

If they had been interested what happened in the Boardroom and had demanded that Cheating Clitheroe, Next Week Neill (aka Billy Liar) and Puppet on a String be removed the second ending could not have happened.

This is only a fairy tale - or is it ?

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good stuff mate

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Jeff!!!!! that's almost displaying a sense of humour!!!!!


very good though and totally relevant

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I enjoyed that immensely ever considered being an author Jeff :D:D

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ERMMMm yes it definately reminded me of those books LOL:D

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They maybe packed them up in cardboard boxes and posted them to the Land far away.:)

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Whats your plan of action then jeff? Other then writing hard hitting fairy tails.

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Would seem to get rid of liars and Puppets on a sting might be a start:rolleyes:

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I think I'm guilty of being one of those who really just wanted to go back to watching the footy and keeping out of all the boardroom stuff but it's now begining to concern me that Whalley has returned, O'Neill hasn't resigned and Heys is still a puppet on a string. What we can do about it without harming the team I don't know.:(

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Cut the strings and give the puppet a chance to be a 'real boy'!

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No, if the puppetmasters go the puppet has to follow.

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Like im going to win the lottery without buying a ticket. What actions are people going to take instead of just speaking about it.

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I'd like another go at Russell if you're thinking more direct action:)

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How do you know people haven't? Answer= Ya don't! i know people that have, but ya won't see it printed on here, what if out have you done?:hehetable

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If you had asked me 2 months ago then I would have said the same as you Baggy, however I do believe that he should at the very least be allowed to show what he is capable of without the obvious restrictions that the two numpties have burdened him with. Not for sentimental reasons as some would but more for stabelising the ship, even if it is in the short term whilst we get an outsider in.

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You could have just said 'ya won't see it printed on here' as i was only asking. Stop being petty and creating arguments.

For everyone who is or does take action good luck i shall just be happy in getting truth out of people.

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that was being petty, sarcastic, call it what ya will, don't like it back do ya? still aint answered me question, though its fine ya wish people good luck.

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I was ment to be mearly pointing out an impossible situation like talking and no action wont achieve what people want hence me asking for what action was being taken. You asked then answered then asked another question.

Anyway are there any actions anyone could type maybe people could help with them or get involved people might be viewing the forum and not sure what to do?

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the only real course of action you can follow is to be ready to follow Ilyas' lead when the call to arms comes. So to speak

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See its how people interpret the written word aint it? i took it as another pop at this forum, which is nowt unusual from certain folk. the sad part to me about all this, is some think "Oh i'll just concentrate on the footy" leave it to the suits. having seen the club slide into oblivion in 62, that is fatal, was guilty of thinking the same back then, being only 14 at the time, personally i will do anything i possibly can, to prevent a repeat, cos its too late when its gone, quite a few of the folk on here are of the same mind, recognition is not important, saving the club is.

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Just hope the story doesn't end with Accys version of Hans Christian Anderson and the controllers of this board getting sued for Libel.

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Impossible, libel as far as i'm aware is telling lies n those 2 don't post on here.:D

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Why would we get sued ? It has been stated as a fairy story elemented morals behind fictional words:p:D

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Frankly there have been far worst comments made within the last twelve months relating to fictional characters mentioned on this forum and others. I'm sure that some will/would have been deeply hurt and offended by some of the personal comments and morel lashing on their persons. However; despite the same I have yet to read on a public forum any of these fictional fairytale chaps bad mouthing or retaliating to the same. in fact they appear to have excised dignified restraint.

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Maybe we should have a sponsored silence OR for EVERY (*****) language posted that i have to remove - that should help reduce Ilyas's debt budget thats been mounting thanks to BAD running! Will that suffice :D

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It would actually be better for everyone concerned if the events were put from both sides.

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There you go Dave....We agree again; it'll be pints at the Crown next :)

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I rarely drink, a pint would knowck me out :)

How about the 3 main supporters groups, OSC, ASSF & Ultras join forces for one night and arrange a public forum, invite both parties to give their plan of the future, q&a session, then public vote. Do you reckon both sides would agree to it ? :)

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Hold it at the Club and invite an independent mediator/referee/impartial chairman to ensure fair and appropriate questioning and it could have a life.

Are not going to have a glass with Owen tonight......:D

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We all know what Ilyas's plan for the future is and he can back it up financially. The other party's plan for the future is probably administration and non-league football as they have proved before that they have not got the financial backing to run a football league club. Before Ilyas saved Stanley the other party stated that they would rather see Stanley fold than be run by Ilyas and if the conversion of Ilyas's debt into shares is blocked by the other party I think it will be the end of Stanley as a football league club. If this happens then there is only one person to blame.

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Thanks Jeff i think u know them too well :D:D

I think the last line is the 'stupidity' the opposing party will no doubt follow, but Ilyas can surely apply to have his debts repaid or place them in admin temporarily to aacquire the club back ...................so seems that the scary admin word maybe the way its gonna go:eek:

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I would agree that not many would really cares what the other side may want to say; but that doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t have the opportunity to be heard. If they do block the share issue they would have to justify it, if not to us, then certainly the board. Can’t see why anyone, even Eric would want to go back to being non-league, there would be no money or kudos in it for anyone.

We could be a season or more away from all this being settled; both sides should at least try and work things through if only to support what the lads are doing on the pitch….Higher league football would bring in sponsors and money (possibly) but only if the club (broad) can be taken seriously by those other than Ilyas parting with their money. Both sides should take something like this as an opportunity to be open and transparent

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you may call it a dignified silence doug, nowt dignified about lies when they do utter, meself i call it "Running Scared":rolleyes: wake up n smell the coffee.

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Trouble is Doug they HAVE had the opportunity to have their say & put things right in a transparent way as Ilyas has led the example BUT as on fishy site, it will be 'next week' or 'later' and that time never seems to happen.

Go go into admin out of spite is just purely selfish & nasty, not just to us fans but to Coley, Jimmy & our players - whom are proving top flight of this league or even Div 1! To go back down over stubborness is purely detrimental to themselves & to the club name and the pheonix flames to dampen forever, imho.

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Cashy, we have a long way to go before all this rots down. We have to be open to negotiation/mediation with those in power if we are to prevent anyone sending us back to 62. Any short term administration would give the wrong signal and the opportunists would have a field day.

If there is a hill to climb between them and Ilyas then independent mediation in a public arena may well be a way forward.

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I've not heard anyone say that thats the plan Mel; this is coming from us not them.

The public/local business must be getting sick of all this and it can only get worst if the team get effected by it.

every path, every Road leads somewhere.....we shouldn't look back and stop walking just because we don't like what we hear.

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 846672) I've not heard anyone say that thats the plan Mel; this is coming from us not them. The public/local business must be getting sick of all this and it can only get worst if the team get effected by it. every path, every Road leads somewhere.....we shouldn't look back and stop walking just because we don't like what we hear.

Not surprisingly, based on past events, imagination has gone in to 'ovetime.'

Concentrate on Doug's final sentence which is the best advice I have ever read!

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sorry whilst every path n every road, sounds wonderful, in reality if that road leads to administration, we should oppose this. whilst doug says he has only heard it from us, not them, would ya honestly expect em to say if they were trying to orchestrate this? to blame imagination going into overdrive is naive at the best.

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EW will not meet with Ilyas

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Even a fool knows where his breads buttered Jeff.

We'll never know for sure if the invertation doesn't go out and in public. :)

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a fool don't mate e.w. will not enter the same building/room as ilyas, this has already been the case.

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True, He sends Don to do it instead:rolleyes:

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If the club took the admin route the Administrators would look to achieve the highest price possible to secure the funds needed to satisfy the creditors. Ilyas, I would expect would have all the bases covered; nullifying any benefit to the current ownership. I hope.

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Is it not legally binding when you send a proxy to do your work......



Or is that a Pixie....:D

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LOL I beleive so, which is what happened when the share issue was agreed earlier this year at the shareholders meeting, don was acting on behalf of the 51% [whether his or EW's]:D

This is now the pinnacle point thats sweating now;)

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If the club took the admin route we would be docked at least 10 points

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I know Jeff, so why would either side let it happen.

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Believe me EW does not care. If he cared anything he would have been at court last year helping to save Stanley instead of sitting in the office at the Crown. He cannot afford to run a Football League club, so if it's admin and EW gets the club it will be back to non-league where, once again, he can act the big man. He has said before that he would rather see the club die than be run by Ilyas (except Ilyas wasn't the word he used)

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I never could get into fairy tales. Wasn't the character Jeff calls 'Knight in Shining Armour' once referred to as 'Fairy Godmother' in 'Cheating Clitheroe's' version of the story? It's all very confusing.