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taken from todays Lancashire Telegraph


"Ilyas Khan's latest plans to build Stanley a new stadium in Church has met with initial council backing.

Both HBC's conservative leader and the areas labourd ward councillor said they welcomed the theplans as an exciting idea which owuld help regeneration.

Council leader Peter Britcliffe has pledged to help the multi-millionaire in any way possible and said he was happy to meet with stanley bosses to discuss the idea.

Mr Khan, who became Stanley's non-executive Chairman when he saved the reds from winding up proceedings, this week revealed a new stdium could be placed on the former Arnold Clark site near Hyndburn Sports Centre.

No opposition to the scheme is likely to come from ward counciloor Joan Smith, who said both she and colleague John Broadley would like to see the plan work.

councillor Britcliffe said " it is a wonderful ambition for Mr Khan to work towards and I wish him every success"

Ward Councillor Joan Smith said "It would provide very welcome regeneration for Church. Of course it will have to meet with traffic requirements but on the face of it it seems a good idea"

Well that looks like the Council onside, the fans are pretty much all onside, the man with the coin is totally onside, we just need the numpties at the top to make things easy now - much more preferable than the inevitable only being postponed whilst they talk crap with solicitors (no doubt charged to the club)

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I know Church is mentioned probably for a reason so where abouts are they thinking in Church ?

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Near to the Sports Centre was mentioned at last week's meeting, although Ilyas did say if anyone had any suggestions for other sites to let him know

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the old central car sales site is mentioned and is currently available!
At first glance it doesn't look big enough but the site is huge. A nice little bridge over the river to join the sports centre would massively increase the space.

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Demolish the Arndale, the decrepid looking council building and the soon to be defunct Market Hall. A new stadium with it's own bus station and little shops on the approach would be great in the centre :D

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This is the location:

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Does look rather tight to fit a football stadium there, but it is an ideal location for a football club and for attracting non-football revenue streams.

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you want it near to either the motorway or train station.

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It's about 1km from both.

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Ossy train station is nearer and the motorway is a 1 minute drive.

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Highams///The field close to highams at back of the houses.
Huncoat power station.
That land at back of Accy College.
Bullough Park
Wilsons - might cause some uproar.

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Is it the Arnold Clark site available???
I got a letter off them a few week back telling me it was being closed as a car sales point but was going to be used for storage and a network drop off/pick up point for their dealer operation

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yes Arnold clark site.


perhaps one of our picture doctors could mock up how our existing ground would fit inside that area to demonstrate whether there is enough room. I suspect that the trees around the river would have to go (cue the tree huggers coming out) and that the power station (bottom left as you look overhead on google earth) would create some kind of issue. There's also a house top right that probably wouldn't be too keen on shifting, or having 3000 people hang around its back garden every weekend! If that wasn't there then there'd be no issue whatsoever with size

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Sounds like a plan to me :)

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I know the site Rob just asking is it really available, or are they just assuming its available because Arnold Clark aren't there at the min, as mentioned I got a letter saying it was going to be used as a storage and a network drop off/pick up point for their dealer operation, or was the letter I got just Bull S :confused:

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If the letter was signed by someone called O'Neil it probably is :)

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Looking at Google maps that area is about the same as we have now

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LOL, any other Arnold Clark customers get the letter?

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Just a quick copy and paste of the ground into that site, scale for scale, not rotated or anything, copied ground and car parks, think i've wiped the house out of the pic :eek:

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...1&d=1285011002

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it suits the environment don't ya think!

The only way it would be ideal then would be to be rotated and put in vertically as far to the right as possible - and that would involve encroaching onto the sports centre car park possibly, difficult considering the river. It would leave a good bit of room to the left for car parking and/or additional buildings.

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Don't forget though that theres some steep bankings on that site at the top, these will have to be left, their holding the junction in place, unless some serious foundations are put in place, IIRC an unsupported banking, the ground has to go out as far as it is deep
Some nice fields doing nowt off Dunkenhalgh way :D

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Bullough would get my vote :D

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IMHO that area is not viable. If you want to utilise a brown field site then the old power station is ideal.

The only way I think it could work would have to involve underground car parking and a platform for the stadium to be built on if we was to use the arnold clark site.

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You lazy git :D:D:D
Theres no pubs up there :mad: saying that, theres no good pubs in Church either now :mad: :mad:and worse still I'll only pass one on my way :mad::mad::mad:
Sod it, build it on Peel St when they move the bus station :D

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I am under the impression that the site being looked at was the Sports Centre site and the Arnold Clark site together.
The complex would be privately funded and include other facilities not just a stadium.

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That was the impression I got to. Sports centre is falling to bits and the council can't afford to spend money on it. 2 birds - 1 stone :)

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now that would make a lot of sense but would involve a hell of a lot more authority involvement (which Ilyas had intimated he wanted back in May when he first announced the plan) and 'bodies' coming together.

That as a whole area would be gigantic and would more than accomodate our needs.

I personally wouldn't want either development around Bullough, Dunkenhalgh or the old power station site because they aren't 'involved' enough. Church would be 100% ideal (close to home!) because it is only just out of the town centre and has potential for a lot more business to be built around it. There might not be much in the way of pubs now, but most of the buildings are still there and could quite easily be re-opened. It's close to the motorway and close to a railway station, it's also only just off a major bus route. Winners all round as far as local business is concerned.

The other MAJOR thing is that around 10,000 cars a day would pass by the site, which keeps it at the forefront of peoples thoughts as far as marketing and appeal are concerned.

Field of Dreams - Build it and they will come.

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To me its n ideal spot fer reasons macca has said, if it could be a goer.:)

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I agree the spot is bang on, if the development was to include the sports centre then yes it is the ideal location sizewise. Things are getting intresting in the club.

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Is there room to expand on all sides ??? . the place i work at has bought a place too expand , but now have become trapped cause they can't expand any further ...

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Why david? can they not make yer cab bigger?:D:D:D

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Lol cashy you are a one . what i mean to say is ,Don't start to build up to the pavement , you never know we may need a three tier terrace . Here's Hoping . :D:D

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if it was to include the sports centre .. what would would the sports centre customers do .. also the swimming pool ... while the new sports complex is being built .. and would there be room for an astroturf and swimming pool at the side .. or is it just having the football stadium .. maybe with a gym that paying customers could use attached on the side of it .. what about the martial arts and gymnastics and trampolining and the netball teams and football teams and swimming club ... in hyndburn ..

who also would want to re-open a shut pub .. with possibly only trade for 20 weeks a year (home matches only).. what about the rest of the time ... thats been shut because of lack of customers ..

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who also would want to re-open a shut pub .. with possibly only trade for 20 weeks a year (home matches only).. what about the rest of the time ... thats been shut because of lack of customers ..

Sell decent beer !!!
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As im aware swimming baths would move to waves and facilitys such as St. Christophers and Accrington Academy would be used.

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hate to say this nickelson ... a lot of schools now let their gyms out at night .. its extra money for them .. what if they already do this .. and so the groups couldnt use their facilities ..

thought waves was at blackburn .. thats money going out of the borough .. and how many parents would send their kids to learn to swim at waves .. especially if they dont drive ..

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Hey lets get a new sodding ground first!:D

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Some good points in there Shillelagh

Many of which could be incorperated into such a site that would become a living, breathing hub of the Community with facilities that can be used not just by ASFC for training purposes and obviously matchdays but the wider community perhaps bringing a new vibrant area that may create jobs & new business's and it's own regeneration of sorts into the area.

It's a big thing not just for the Club as I say but for the whole community and potential income streams that can be tapped into 365 days a year rather than as you point out reaching highs on match-days.

There are I am sure projects of similar regeneration ongoing and already built in areas right across the North West in this next of the woods things like Schools for the future & the Ace Centre all of which are contributinting not just to term time in the School side of things but a vibrant social side of things for the community by and large whilst also bringing people back into Nelson in the shape of the Ace Centre.

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This is becoming an ever increasing development; just how much of this fine gentleman’s money are you going to spend. You must be up to £20 million already.

It was reported in the pub, meeting, paper and on here that Ilyas would fund a new home for the club; not redevelop the Township of Church.

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I'm not convinced the meeting was reported properly. I'm sure I heard him say he was joint funding it with you :D

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If we do move from the Crown Ground, that would free-up that area for residential development, which should bring in a nice sale fee for the Council. No wonder they are keen for us to move ... but it means that they could part-fund the redevelopment of the Sports Centre site so that it better meets the needs of the community while Ilyas' money develops the site for the training facilities that the team need so much.

What an incredible vision for the Club. It's humbling to think that one person can 'donate' this to the Club, no strings, no conditions, no 'thank you's necessary.

Now compare it to the vision for the Club that we had 12 months ago.

How can people be indifferent to what happens in the Boardroom? Even those people who want to just concentrate on the team must accept that the players have the right to be paid on time; that players are not forced to move to another Club to pay their own bills/mortgage; and that Coley has a playing budget which means that not only can we continue to compete in this league, but survive as a League 1 Club.

Only one of these visions can make this possible.

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My entire Stanley budget for the year is somewhere in the region of all; £30 of was spent of Accyweb Shirt Sponsorship; I am considering funding an away shirt and a Player Sponsorship, maybe we'll have to look again at the away shirt and postpone stadium until "next week". :D

On a serious note; Ilyas generosity is fantastic for the club and the town and he'll certainly retain the admiration of many as a benefactor of many of our ambitions. Let's let him Ilyas and his team short this one out; and let us concentrate on what Accrington Stanley (the whole of it) is doing on the pitch. :)

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If it does go ahead on the Church site, then there will be no need for a car park; there is one there already - it's called the sports centre car park, which is vastly under utilised. It should not be to difficult to come to some form of arrangement with the sports centre to use this on match days. Even now, there is no restriction on access & parking.

The only problem I can see is the Henry Street/Dill Hall/Dunkenhalgh Way traffic bottleneck. This is bad at the best of times but I really don't think there is currently a better site in terms of central location and accessability.

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Nice to see Church & Ossy station nearby, theres quite a few people like myself that come by train even though the Crown Ground isn't a million miles away from the Station it is still a trek in the wind & rain, plus theres plenty of away fans come by train and Stanley fans from Preston and further afield. The little crazy Mackam comes over from Blackpool area!

:D

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Pains me to say this, as received wisdomos that it's pure madness, but I hope that, unless things change at the club, ownership of the ground will remain separate (perhaps Ilyas-council-trust). That way if the numpties in charge do screw it up at least the ground is protected. I may have missed it, but can anyone tell me what the plans are in terms of ownership?

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Dont worry about her mate, i'll charm her.:D

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Don't worry about them yonmon, i'll sort me relatives out.;)