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What's not working. There's all this negativity towards those in power at the club and if accyweb is to be believed every man and his dog wants' to see EW, D'ON and RH out or worse, but is this a true reflection. If John Coleman and Jimmy Bell came out and pointed the finger and demanded them out it would then be dire; but their not.

Ilyas and Peter's Donations saved them and the club; because of their generosity and love for Accrington Stanley we still have our Football Club. This goes without saying and no one should take away from what these men of Accrington have done, and I don't doubt that for one minute if anyone of us where so fortunate to do the same; we would have without question.

But looking at the wider picture; On the Pitch we are one of the best league two teams in the country and if not this season; surly it's only a matter of one more before we go up....again.

The Community element of the club is working well and showing signs of building respect and goodwill throughout the area.

John Coleman, Jimmy Bell and The Team; despite the reports of late contracts and late payment of wages are happy and pushing the boundaries of what's possible with very little money.

The commercial department is learning faster today then at any other time in its history and its paying dividends.

Say what you want about the board; and despite all the name calling and bitching they are still part of that team that make Accrington Stanley what it is.

Bad press is only distracting attention away from what's good at the club; people are so tied up with the negatives, perhaps we're not really seeing the bigger, brighter picture; its as though its not enough that we are what and who we are; Yesterdays Heroes have become villains and mates cross words with mates over who said what.

Get out and sing out what's good about the club and our exploits on the field of play, get everyman and his dog behind the gates and we won't need to worry about money, show investors and sponsors that "We're Proud of Our Club" Accrington Stanley; and we will buy you products if you invest in our team.

But keep trying to bring down those forenamed and we just might close doors and people just might stay away and keep their money in there pockets.

It's nearly 12 months since the heart of Accrington died; Rejoice and celebrate what Ilyas, Peter and an host of unknowns did for us and us for each other.

Lets turn a new leaf, buy an shirt "We're Proud of Our Club" and ware it, take a mate to the Crown, buy a pint in the Crown or the Club House, give chance a chance celebrate what's good, celebrate what's working. Work together.

I am not defending anyone; I not forgetting what nearly happened and I'm not forgetting what people did for us. Only time will change things; until then lets go out and sell the positives and lets see what happens. :)

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It's true EW has done a lot for Accrington Stanley, he got us back into the Football League, but then he left us for dead. Ilyas saved the Club and got no thanks from EW. Ilyas continues to bankroll the Club by paying wages etc. It is only a matter of time before he gets fed up of putting money into Stanley just to support EW and his ego and brass neck. What happens then ? EW has to go. Local businesses will not support or sponsor Stanley whilst he is there, he will bring Stanley down and into oblivion.

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Doug u MISS the point it has been said by many people those not on forums, those that have supported the club for a long time etc etc THEY SAY THEY DONT HAVE TRUST IN EW & DON, many people here say the same & a change of running is a must for the club to survive!!

Its a majority opinion:rolleyes:

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Thanks for the link on the other page Jeff; I'm with John Coleman all the way. :)

Coleman signs on with Stanley until 2015 - Manchester Evening News

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Not everthing we may wish for is going to turn out to be what we want. :)

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Onfield stuff is the best thing since sliced bread, coley & bell have put the club where it is and could do way more whereas the backroom wants to do the opposite, and that wont change till ownership issue is sorted once & for all.

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Meaning ???

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What we have is working.......some just don't like the fact that credit may be taken by the backroom has you call it. John Coleman give support to all at the club; why can't we get behind him and drive up that good will factor and get what he needs, people through the gates. Bitching about what we have won't do that. I'm not saying hug EW or hang him. just get on with what we have and make it work. Change isn't always the best road to take.

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Maybe some people are scared of change :rolleyes:

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You are wrong mate, all the positives you have mentioned are from changes from the past.
And now we must make the final change, get rid of the hangers on and dead wood aka EW and O'neill.

Only then will we truely blossom.

Make no mistake, while EW and O'neill hang on, people will be turned off.

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Indeed there are a lot more positives to be found off-the-field now than in the Whalley era. The great work done by the FitC people and Lew at the club shop are the main things, in my opinion. However we must learn from the past and not turn a blind eye to the murkiness and incompetence at the club. The cancer is still very much there in our club and we have got to kick it out before the next crisis comes along.

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Doug, mate, you are so wrong about this. Any success we may have enjoyed recently is in spite of EW and DON. At any normal, well-run club there is ongoing accountability and dialogue between the owners/executive and the supporters. Show me one instance of this happening in our case. Where is the indication of their vision for the club? Where is the mission statement? There has been nil, zilch, zero at a time when we have been crying out for leadership off the field. They are taking the mick and anyone who can't see it must have their head in the sand.

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I'm afraid Doug is right. He can see the back of the queue for businesses wanting to pour money in to the club. The rest of you can't see it because it goes past Accrington and you lot didn't realise how long it is :)

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:d:d:d:d:d:d:d!!!

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Lol; Dave, what you Din....sorry Burnley FC chaps don't realise is what you have today, we will have tomorrow. We just have to learn to work together to get it.:)

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Doug, PLEASE dont take this the wrong way, however you have not been able to be here and witness first hand what we have had to put up with week in week out from both O'Neil and Whalley.........I only wish you could have been as I truly believe that if you had you too would feel as the majority of fans do.

Between them, O'Neil and Whalley have conspired to decieve (sp) both the fans and general population of Accrington, local businesses will NOT come on board whilst Whalley hangs around (fact), O'Neil wouldnt know the truth if it slapped Him in the face!!!

Whilst those two are still here, then the club WILL continue to deteriorate.........sorry mate but you are wrong on this occasion :)

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Doug I thought you of all people would have realised by now we have had more drama at the Club than a stage production at the local theatre.

There are good things going on we know that and are fully behind that in every sense of the word but how long before the next crisis or we lose these good people because of the pressure or non payment of their wages?

People have had long enough to sort out their wrangles and whatever else is going on behind the scenes but we still appear to be no nearer a compromise or a workable solution that can take this Club kicking & Screaming into a genuine new dawn.

I love this Club and it has torn me apart at times over the last eighteen months as it has with most fans and people connected the Club, you get to the point where you can chuck the towel in and say no more and walk away, you can watch from the stands powerless to do anything as we have or you can decide to fight for a better future for everyone least of all ASFC.

I know which side of the fence I am on

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Doug I sincerely hope that one football club can climb the leagues and not succumb to the greed of the rest.

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Pete, out of the people I know at the Crown Ground you are one of those I know best and I certainly don't take anything said the wrong way. It's an opinion like everyone else's.

You are correct in that I'm not there and don't se the things that others do, I go completely off what is said on here, the ultras forum and the fishy site along with what's in the press. Today I read that John Coleman is happy and he related how all at the club had played their part in our teams success.

If it's good enough for him, I'm ecstatic; because if he was unhappy we would have something to worry about. John Coleman is backing Accrington Stanley, like it or not, who's owns or runs the club won't matter in the short to mid term until the legal differences are sorted.

Its twelve months on and there's no change at the top and people aren't looking in the direction of what's coming our way.

People of Lancashire through no fault of their own are going to face some of the most austere cuts in decades; people will loose their jobs, their benefits and in extreme cases their homes. Money will be short and business will be very carful where they put their money. But it's the nature of business to continue to advertise even in the most severe financial climates; gifted, bright and intelligent people even prosper in these conditions; but who suffers other than the workers? I'd say small business with a bob to spend, but can't quite meet the needs of big premiership or championship teams (don't worry Dave, its only a matter of time and you'll be playing us).

Can or will people invest in a high value ticket to see Blackburn get their arses kicked (again) or Burnley take another fall....(only the brave, daft, well to do and the die hard's) many football fans with a dwindling pound in their pocket will still want their blood rush and Accrington Stanley can provide.

It's the same argument for commercial concerns; they want, if not need to get their message out to those who need services, goods, food, where better that a deal with an up and coming club. There's value to be had at Accrington Stanley, there's seats to fill and quality to watch and we all should be working to get it, including Ilyas, David O'Neil, Eric Whalley and us the supporters.

Infighting, public displays of doubt and derision will only work against us; that's all I'm trying to get across; people may not trust David O'Neil or like Eric Whalley, some will have doubts about Ilyas Khan but each of us has a duty to ensure what we can't change doesn't hurt us and what we can change works for us. I'm sure the day will come when we can all breath easy, but until then we have to get on with it and build up public opinion in our favour and if that means working with the clubs current management so be it.

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I do understand; and many of those feelings we share. If Ilyas can't shift them, will we? All I want to do is look at what we can do today, without having to worry about tomorrow turning back the clock twelve months.

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In some ways Doug you are right with your last post in others you are severley misguided.

Your last paragraph for example please re-read it

It's full of contradictions any Company small or large but one that is held up as a Football Club and one that aspires to be a pivitol "Community One" to survive if nothing else in Stanley's case has to reach out from the Top and have a cascade effect that feeds down and inspires people within the Club and then have the ripple effect that then feeds out to fans and in turn the community.

Inspiration costs little or nothing, motivation costs little or nothing, communication costs little or nothing

Tick them three boxes and you are half way there but it has to start at the Top

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Switching football clubs isn't like deciding wether to shop at Asda or Tesco :D

As for high value tickets at Blackburn I'm pretty sure you can get a season ticket there cheaper than Stanley. Thats what Sky subsidies do for you.

Yes a few people will switch but they aren't going to leave in big numbers. Just because Stanley had the fairy story of resurrecting and getting back in to the league don't think the endearment of other clubs fans has lasted since the debacle of the SOS appeal and subsequent stories eminating from the club. Many non-Stanley fans have turned and see it as a subject of mirth when yet another story of 'amateur' mis-management hits the newsfeeds.

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I think thats exactly what everybody is saying Doug ;)

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Doug there is nothing that gives me a bigger "feelgood factor" than posting or telling people how good the team is playing on the pitch or the latest innovation to increase Supporter Numbers.

But it is a two way street interaction benefits everyone deafning silence from people helps nobody and adds to the growing unease, tension & frustration.

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It felt good at work this week when everyone came up to me and asked if I witnessed that marvelous result at weekend (of which I did). Lets hope we can progress to League One.

Onwards and upwards.

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Doug, no one does.

Iylas Khan is the best thing to EVER happen to Stanley

Please face facts while EW and O'Neill remain; the club will be held back.

Please undersand this and ask some questions about EW and O'neill, you are coming across as very much one sided aka in the pocket of the scum that nearly killed the club.

O'neill is 100% anti football, please never forget it.
His only concern is himself.

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Doug, do you have another agenda?

We know that you have crossed swords with Ilyas. Do you have a higher opinion of EW and DO'N than you have of Ilyas?

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No......:) Do people not see what I say about Ilyas; I have no problem with Ilyas.

All we're seeing on here these day's is loads of doom and gloom; All I'm trying to say is the club Accrington Stanley is doing well. and its all despite happening at the top, so why not celebrate that and capitalise on the success on the pitch by talking the club up in every possible way and get people interested in Accrington Stanley; not this gloom about who's doing what or not.

The fact remains that O'Neil and Whalley are still there 12 months on, with no sign of any movement. So why not ignore that and sell the club's positives to the public and get John Coleman the fan's he wants to see in the crown.

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^^^ thats the problem we cant sell anything other than our team is everything fantastico, trouble is those 2 sick of hearing how some people wont go to matches whilst they are in charge and the way they are running the club atm.....catch 22! Also that many of us know too much of the mirky waters that lurk beneath - we all want the best for stanley!