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windmill 06-12-2010 20:25
The Way Forward?!?
 

Is this the scenario for the next nine months?

1) No money for wages and cost of increasing ground capacity.

2) Take out PFA loan.

3) Sell a player in January.

4) Repay PFA loan.

5) Season ticket sales in April fund wages till June.

6) Money runs out.

7) Take out another PFA loan - embargo in place.

8) Repay PFA loan in August with sponsorship income.

9) Struggle starts again with no cohesive or strategic plan to take the club forward.

lancsdave 06-12-2010 20:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by windmill (Post 867039)
Is this the scenario for the next nine months?

1) No money for wages and cost of increasing ground capacity.

2) Take out PFA loan.

3) Sell a player in January.

4) Repay PFA loan.

5) Season ticket sales in April fund wages till June.

6) Money runs out.

7) Take out another PFA loan - embargo in place.

8) Repay PFA loan in August with sponsorship income.

9) Struggle starts again with no cohesive or strategic plan to take the club forward.
Well done for getting to number 8 ;)

Wynonie Harris 06-12-2010 20:48
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Yup, that's about it.

What a pity we don't have a wealthy, astute businessman who genuinely loves the club, waiting in the wings with the resources and the ideas to take us forward and even build a new stadium for us.

But, of course, we don't have anyone like that because if we had, the club would have welcomed him with open arms, wouldn't they?

cashman 06-12-2010 20:57
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Its certainly the probable scenario, wi clowns ya always get a circus.:rolleyes::(

Wynonie Harris 06-12-2010 20:58
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The really frustrating thing is, it doesn't have to be this way.

lancsdave 06-12-2010 21:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 867050)
Yup, that's about it.

What a pity we don't have a wealthy, astute businessman who genuinely loves the club, waiting in the wings with the resources and the ideas to take us forward and even build a new stadium for us.
I'd stay off the drink if thats the sort of fantasies it conjures up :D

sherry 06-12-2010 21:23
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No it doesn't but some people STILL don't see the light of day!

Bet DON is saying "Damn - this windmill is very bright - I should make him a director!" :rolleyes:

mab 06-12-2010 21:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by windmill (Post 867039)
Is this the scenario for the next nine months?

1) No money for wages and cost of increasing ground capacity.

2) Take out PFA loan.

3) Sell a player in January.

4) Repay PFA loan.

5) Season ticket sales in April fund wages till June.

6) Money runs out.

7) Take out another PFA loan - embargo in place.

8) Repay PFA loan in August with sponsorship income.

9) Struggle starts again with no cohesive or strategic plan to take the club forward.
:confused: Have i mist something in the papers or are you still having that drink problem!!!!!:rolleyes::)

Pendle Red 07-12-2010 05:19
Re: The Way Forward?!?
 
Did we not have an unexepted windfall from the Newcastle Cup game that was not in the budgets at the start of the season?

Wynonie Harris 07-12-2010 07:33
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Let's be honest about this - a lot of Windmill's forecasts may be speculative, but he's got the general gist of things right - making do and mend, lurching from crisis to crisis, living hand to mouth. And yet there is an alternative staring us right in the face.

Until that alternative becomes a reality, this club has a very bleak future indeed and all the "thinking positive" attitudes in the world aren't going to change that.

cashman 07-12-2010 08:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 867088)
Let's be honest about this - a lot of Windmill's forecasts may be speculative, but he's got the general gist of things right - making do and mend, lurching from crisis to crisis, living hand to mouth. And yet there is an alternative staring us right in the face.

Until that alternative becomes a reality, this club has a very bleak future indeed and all the "thinking positive" attitudes in the world aren't going to change that.
everyone knows the best way forward, its just a few won't have it. simple as.:mad:

ukcowboy 07-12-2010 18:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pendle Red (Post 867079)
Did we not have an unexepted windfall from the Newcastle Cup game that was not in the budgets at the start of the season?

Yes Google Page Ranking we did, and if my memory serves me right wasn't that reported as going to JC in the transfer window? Somehow I don't think it will, afterall we have been told to. Incrrasr ground capacity, something the club were obviously unaware of, untill very recently :-(

We really should learn not to believe everything the club says lol.

windmill 14-12-2010 18:15
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Scenario update for Stanley.

1) No money

2) HMRC not paid since October

3) Extra 500 spectator capacity will not happen this year.

4) Knight on white horse comes to the rescue in January in the form of the FL with a generous "parachute payment."

5) February - money has run out - again!

lancsdave 14-12-2010 18:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by windmill (Post 869008)
3) Extra 500 spectator capacity will not happen this year.

4) Knight on white horse comes to the rescue in January in the form of the FL with a generous "parachute payment."
In which case nobody should be concerned as long as they remain in the football league and the said league keep bending the rules

VALAIRIAN 14-12-2010 18:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by windmill (Post 869008)
Scenario update for Stanley.

1) No money

2) HMRC not paid since October

3) Extra 500 spectator capacity will not happen this year.

4) Knight on white horse comes to the rescue in January in the form of the FL with a generous "parachute payment."

5) February - money has run out - again!
???????

stanleyhouse 15-12-2010 13:48
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I knew the spectator capacity wasn't happening this year - due to hold ups- thank you Football League once again, but the getting behind with HMRC payments again was a bit of a blow.
I expect an embargo soon. Sooner if the Burton and/or Crewe matches are cancelled.
Let's hope the PFA are as patient. Their loans do come in handy!

mab 15-12-2010 21:23
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Why do some people like/try to stir s--t up and put the club down,its hard enough as it running a football league club on low gates and low income coming in IMHO!!Shrews game if it hadnt have been postponed would have seen a big away following which meens ££££ in the coffers,sats game is in the hands of the weather GODS as well as are all our home games this time of year.so lets have a bit of positive posting,Afte all it is good will to all time of year.......

cashman 15-12-2010 21:29
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everyone understands the finances are not the greatest mab, n i agree its hard enough running a football club, thats the problem, the club IS NOT run as it should be, most are also aware of that, no transparency even with things that can be disclosed, ******* are ******* all the year round, christmas or not.;) no excuses fer em regarding matches being off etc, wheres the revenue from sky gone?

Wynonie Harris 15-12-2010 21:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mab (Post 869296)
Afte all it is good will to all time of year.......
Sorry, mate, have to disagree with you there...no goodwill whatsoever to O'Neill and Whalley. The best Christmas present for me would be to see them disappear forever from our football club and Ilyas to put his plans into action.

mab 15-12-2010 21:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stanleyhouse (Post 869164)
I knew the spectator capacity wasn't happening this year - due to hold ups- thank you Football League once again, but the getting behind with HMRC payments again was a bit of a blow.
I expect an embargo soon. Sooner if the Burton and/or Crewe matches are cancelled.
Let's hope the PFA are as patient. Their loans do come in handy!
:( what hold ups are these??? control room will be up and running shortly now the steps are in place which happend today.it takes 3days to erect the stand once the wall has been removed. Where is it reported that we're behind on HMRC payments may be inside info o have i mist something:confused:

mab 15-12-2010 21:41
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Oooops:hidewall: Just trying to remain positve cashy WH!!!:)

Wynonie Harris 15-12-2010 21:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mab (Post 869303)
Oooops:hidewall: Just trying to remain positve cashy WH!!!:)
Fair enough, Mab, but there's precious little to be positive about. If there were no other options, then perhaps we'd just have to make the best of a bad job, but there is another option, as we all know!

mab 15-12-2010 21:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 869306)
Fair enough, Mab, but there's precious little to be positive about. If there were no other options, then perhaps we'd just have to make the best of a bad job, but there is another option, as we all know!
:) A Greed Whinney :)

Wynonie Harris 15-12-2010 22:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mab (Post 869310)
:) A Greed Whinney :)
Just wait til you've been supporting Stanley for 50 years, Mab. Hard-bitten cynicism will come naturally to you! ;)

lancsdave 15-12-2010 22:04
Re: The Way Forward?!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mab (Post 869301)
:( what hold ups are these??? control room will be up and running shortly now the steps are in place which happend today.it takes 3days to erect the stand once the wall has been removed.
Lets see your level of confidence, is it your shirt or your house at stake ? :D

cashman 15-12-2010 22:05
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know yer a positive guy mab.:) me i just say things as i see em.;)

mab 15-12-2010 22:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 869311)
Just wait til you've been supporting Stanley for 50 years, Mab. Hard-bitten cynicism will come naturally to you! ;)
:) You need a long service medal Whinney :)

mab 15-12-2010 22:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 869312)
Lets see your level of confidence, is it your shirt or your house at stake ? :D
Mmmmmmmmmmm i'll have to get back to you on that one Dave:rolleyes::D

lancsdave 15-12-2010 22:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mab (Post 869314)
:) You need a long service medal Whinney :)
He's already been Grade 1 listed by the National Trust :)

lancsdave 18-12-2010 17:42
Re: The Way Forward?!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mab (Post 869316)
Mmmmmmmmmmm i'll have to get back to you on that one Dave:rolleyes::D

Good job you're not a betting man, you keep the shirt on your back and the roof over your head. You just need to nip to Asda and get a different bottle of source :D

mab 18-12-2010 18:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 869858)
Good job you're not a betting man, you keep the shirt on your back and the roof over your head. You just need to nip to Asda and get a different bottle of source :D
:(:o:o I'm as dissapointed as everyone else on this!!That much so i've pmed and emailed our chairman on this issue,watch this spaces....:o

cashman 18-12-2010 18:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mab (Post 869867)
:(:o:o I'm as dissapointed as everyone else on this!!That much so i've pmed and emailed our chairman on this issue,watch this spaces....:o
according to telegraph rob heys says it will be jan 2011, when completed n F.L. are happy wi progress so far n seem reasonable about it,all well n good, but play wi fire too often ya may get burned.:eek:

lancsdave 18-12-2010 18:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 869874)
according to telegraph rob heys says it will be jan 2011, when completed n F.L. are happy wi progress so far n seem reasonable about it,all well n good, but play wi fire too often ya may get burned.:eek:

I bet the suits from the Football League never book a holiday in Accrington. The weather has been crap for 4 years :D

Wynonie Harris 18-12-2010 21:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 869874)
rob heys says
Why do those three little words fill me with grave foreboding? :eek:


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