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Redraine 22-06-2011 18:04
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What the heck, let 'em all go! Coley will find 20 hungry players itching for a chance to play in the Football league!:D

smudgie 22-06-2011 18:05
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In Coley we trust !

lancsdave 22-06-2011 18:06
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Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 913657)
What the heck, let 'em all go! Coley will find 20 hungry players itching for a chance to play in the Football league!:D

should also be able to increase the wages with all the tribunal fees too :)

madkev 22-06-2011 19:00
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Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 913657)
What the heck, let 'em all go! Coley will find 20 hungry players itching for a chance to play in the Football league!:D

:):) Exactly

cashman 22-06-2011 19:43
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Originally Posted by mab (Post 913646)
Think hes being a very silly lad, whilst he works his ass off, he aint what yeh call prolific!:rolleyes: woulda been much wiser staying awhile n learning his trade.imho.am sure coley will find someone at least as good.

Revived Red 22-06-2011 21:04
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 913691)
Think hes being a very silly lad, whilst he works his ass off, he aint what yeh call prolific!:rolleyes: woulda been much wiser staying awhile n learning his trade.imho.am sure coley will find someone at least as good.
I do agree with that. I for one felt that he didn't always deserve the glowing reports he seemed to get. He certainly worked tremendously hard but his shooting could be extremely wayward. I always felt his ball control was poor. How many times did we see the ball bounce off his legs or his body when he should have been able to control it more effectively? Maybe I'm in a minority of one (or possibly two including cashy) but I also felt he had a lot to learn

cashman 22-06-2011 21:14
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no yeh aint in a minority of 1 mate.;)

mab 22-06-2011 21:46
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Right lets step back and think a while all we have is media talk nothing set in stone so to speak, as far as i'm aware jimmy is still on holiday until the weekend,so unless hes been doing adeal while on his hols then all we have is speculation on skysports part.Gornell another who is still away as far as i'm aware.Something as big as this you would think would be on the fishy sight ( please no sniggering )in the Telegraph on the local radio,But no!!! So speculation and Rumours is all we have at the moment..

Revived Red 22-06-2011 22:05
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Originally Posted by mab (Post 913717)
the fishy sight ( please no sniggering )
:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by mab (Post 913717)
in the Telegraph
:D:D

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on the local radio
:confused::confused:

cashman 22-06-2011 22:06
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Are yeh taking bets on it mate?:eek:

Revived Red 22-06-2011 22:07
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Sorry mab. I know what you are getting but ..... The info seems to have come from Sky and BBC - maybe that's just gossip too.

Pendle Red 23-06-2011 05:16
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My tuppence worth on El Tel simply the best target man I have seen since Mullers in his prime.

Bearing in mind he played a lone striker role one in which he never played before his effort was non stop and his hold up play was terriffic and unselfish at times.

His goals would have numbered twenty plus had he have been part of a front two, I do rate him very highly and players like that are few & far between.

If it is not to be as with other players for next season well thanks for the memories and for giving us an amazing season and we move on.....

cashman 23-06-2011 08:34
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Originally Posted by Pendle Red (Post 913746)
My tuppence worth on El Tel simply the best target man I have seen since Mullers in his prime.

Bearing in mind he played a lone striker role one in which he never played before his effort was non stop and his hold up play was terriffic and unselfish at times.

His goals would have numbered twenty plus had he have been part of a front two, I do rate him very highly and players like that are few & far between.

If it is not to be as with other players for next season well thanks for the memories and for giving us an amazing season and we move on.....
nobodys knocking his effort mate, but doubt very much if 20 plus woulda been acheived, fer my money still needs much work on his finishing.:)

mab 23-06-2011 11:15
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:) Telegraph's version of the Ryan move ;) Accrington Stanley facing fight over Ryan (From Lancashire Telegraph) and this from scunthorpe telegraph..http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/502597956?-16430

lancsdave 23-06-2011 14:40
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According to today's Observer Coley will meet with all players out of contract on Monday and find out what they are doing.

Div3North 23-06-2011 15:00
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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 910181)
The same article has us more than interested in Macclesfield pair Bencherif and Barnett.
Bencherif just signed for Notts County ............... :)

madkev 23-06-2011 15:25
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 913817)
According to today's Observer Coley will meet with all players out of contract on Monday and find out what they are doing.

Next week again i see:D

smobile 23-06-2011 15:53
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Originally Posted by madkev (Post 913828)
Next week again i see:D
It's like DON's takeover all over again :rofl38:

cashman 23-06-2011 16:50
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they will have to get skates on, as i believe pre-season training starts next weds.:D

mab 23-06-2011 16:56
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 913845)
they will have to get skates on, as i believe pre-season training starts next weds.:D
Spot on cashy pre-season training indeed starts next wednesday:) Craney's gona be a busy lad ;):)

lancsdave 23-06-2011 17:00
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I would think that technically they are all Stanley players anyway until next Thursday, most contracts run until 30th June.

sparkie 23-06-2011 19:48
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Originally Posted by mab (Post 913848)
Spot on cashy pre-season training indeed starts next wednesday:) Craney's gona be a busy lad ;):)
If it gets him fit and stronger then that can't be a bad thing!!!:rolleyes::D

mab 24-06-2011 17:13
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More from the Telegraph
Don’t let us down, Accrington Stanley assistant tells duo

cashman 24-06-2011 20:04
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Originally Posted by mab (Post 914049)
Jimmy Bell is spot on wi that comment, if thats what happens its a crap state of play, just hope that aint the way of it.

choirboy 25-06-2011 21:32
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Coley should be in touch with all players on Monday and they are due to resume training on Wednesday according to the Observer so we should get to know who is making the ultimate committment to Stanley and who is after more brass by going elsewhere!!:confused::confused: Look at Symes and Grant who went for more brass...They have hardly played all last season .. a backward step in my view for both of them and for Stanley and for football.... How will their confidence and enjoyment of the game stand now??:(:(
So come on Jimmy Ryan, Terry Gornell and one or two others, pledge to the LEGEND that is ACCRINGTON STANLEY and MAKE HISTORY!! In the long run it is pride in what you achieve in life not money!!
ON STANLEY ON:signbeer::wave8::rose8:

sparkie 26-06-2011 07:33
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Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 914287)
Coley should be in touch with all players on Monday and they are due to resume training on Wednesday according to the Observer so we should get to know who is making the ultimate committment to Stanley and who is after more brass by going elsewhere!!:confused::confused: Look at Symes and Grant who went for more brass...They have hardly played all last season .. a backward step in my view for both of them and for Stanley and for football.... How will their confidence and enjoyment of the game stand now??:(:(
So come on Jimmy Ryan, Terry Gornell and one or two others, pledge to the LEGEND that is ACCRINGTON STANLEY and MAKE HISTORY!! In the long run it is pride in what you achieve in life not money!!
ON STANLEY ON:signbeer::wave8::rose8:
A noble sentiment indeed, however pride wont pay the bills!!...........Dont get me wrong, I would much rather that they stay with us, but can understand them wishing to move to pastures new and increasing their earning potential.

POSTED BY UKCOWBOY (forgot to log Sparkie out......sorry!)

new red 26-06-2011 07:39
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Agree that pride wont pay the bills and personally think no one has committed yet cos they are waiting till the last minute to see if there are any other offers on the table. Offers that would pay more, have their own training facilities and actually get paid on time. Hope we do keep the majority together but very much doubt it!

Doug 26-06-2011 08:18
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Originally Posted by sparkie (Post 914342)
A noble sentiment indeed, however pride wont pay the bills!!...........Dont get me wrong, I would much rather that they stay with us, but can understand them wishing to move to pastures new and increasing their earning potential.

POSTED BY UKCOWBOY (forgot to log Sparkie out......sorry!)
Absolutely agree with Pete and New Red. There's a selfishness on this broad that is too quick to come down on people who seek to better themselves. How many of us would continue to work for the club, if down the road we'd get a few bob more; be paid on time and the amount owed and where offered prospects that where meaningful. What the club has done over the years from the early 70s is nothing short of fantastic; but in 2011 the world is a very different place and players at this level have very different priorities and commitments than us supporters. Nobody should have be left without a contract this season and no player should be criticised for looking out for themselves. The club didn't reward their efforts by offering them a competitive contract to keep them, so why would they want to commit themselves.

AccyMad 26-06-2011 09:19
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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 914347)
Absolutely agree with Pete and New Red. There's a selfishness on this broad that is too quick to come down on people who seek to better themselves. How many of us would continue to work for the club, if down the road we'd get a few bob more; be paid on time and the amount owed and where offered prospects that where meaningful. What the club has done over the years from the early 70s is nothing short of fantastic; but in 2011 the world is a very different place and players at this level have very different priorities and commitments than us supporters. Nobody should have be left without a contract this season and no player should be criticised for looking out for themselves.
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Didn't realise you were in the know about what contracts have been offered to who Doug? Apart from a few lines in the paper from Luke Joyce who said he'd been offered a 2 year contract I don't think many people knows who has been offered what, one thing I'm sure of is that the club will have offered the best they can afford to the players. Of course the offers may be less than the lads can get from other clubs & if they choose to turn them down & move on so be it. We cannot offer ridiculous money as some other clubs do or we could end up back in a similar mess to the one we are just starting to get out of.
Of course I would love all the team to stay together and see what they could achieve this coming season but if they don't then I'm sure Coley will find replacements for the ones who do leave (although I would be disappointed if Scunthorpe is Jimmy's destination as I think he could do much better for himself)

cashman 26-06-2011 09:36
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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 914347)
The club didn't reward their efforts by offering them a competitive contract to keep them, so why would they want to commit themselves.
UTTER CRAP, club offered the best they could, i have no idea what that is n damn sure you aint.:(

Doug 26-06-2011 10:08
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 914373)
UTTER CRAP, club offered the best they could, i have no idea what that is n damn sure you aint.:(
No certainly not cashy; I don't claim to. What I'm saying is the club or ourselves cannot criticise players for moving on if the club itself fails to invest in what was our best ever team since the 50s. It's a very competitive market for the top end of any league and we have to learn to compete, rather than rely on loyalty alone and the enterprise of our manager to bring in new blood every season only to let them leave at the end of each season; all we are doing is developing key asset for some other mugger to pick up for a small amount of money, if any. If we want to stay competitive we have to invest and compete; high up the league we go the more the money will flow inwards instead of out.

Saying utter crap on here or appears to be easier that accepting another's opinion; how things have changed.

cashman 26-06-2011 10:12
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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 914383)
No certainly not cashy; I don't claim to. What I'm saying is the club or ourselves cannot criticise players for moving on if the club itself fails to invest in what was our best ever team since the 50s. It's a very competitive market for the top end of any league and we have to learn to compete, rather than rely on loyalty alone and the enterprise of our manager to bring in new blood every season only to let them leave at the end of each season; all we are doing is developing key asset for some other mugger to pick up for a small amount of money, if any. If we want to stay competitive we have to invest and compete; high up the league we go the more the money will flow inwards instead of out.

Saying utter crap on here or appears to be easier that accepting another's opinion; how things have changed.
saying utter crap is cos what that comment i highlighted is in my opinion,simple as, nowt to do wi accepting anyones opinion, crap is crap.:rolleyes:

shakermaker 26-06-2011 15:21
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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 914383)
No certainly not cashy; I don't claim to. What I'm saying is the club or ourselves cannot criticise players for moving on if the club itself fails to invest in what was our best ever team since the 50s. It's a very competitive market for the top end of any league and we have to learn to compete, rather than rely on loyalty alone and the enterprise of our manager to bring in new blood every season only to let them leave at the end of each season; all we are doing is developing key asset for some other mugger to pick up for a small amount of money, if any. If we want to stay competitive we have to invest and compete; high up the league we go the more the money will flow inwards instead of out.

Saying utter crap on here or appears to be easier that accepting another's opinion; how things have changed.
The club will have offered the best financial packages that they could possibly make. Unless you have invented a way of pulling money out of your whoseywhatsit then we have no way of 'competing' with the bigger clubs in this league or the league above.

Our only hope is that our sought after players look to the likes of Ian Craney to show that the grass ain't always greener; that they may well play their best football under John & Jimmy and progress that way.

football19 26-06-2011 15:37
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Spot on shakermaker, just shows what acci did last year was unbelievable,

bdc 26-06-2011 16:12
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From the reports I have seen, the budget for this coming season will be the same as last season. I would expect that JC would be looking to trim the squad slightly in order to offer better terms to our key players in the hope that it may help to keep them here. Its a bit concerning that we only have one contracted player at the minute though!

JEFF 27-06-2011 08:59
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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 914383)
If we want to stay competitive we have to invest and compete; high up the league we go the more the money will flow inwards instead of out.

Saying utter crap on here or appears to be easier that accepting another's opinion; how things have changed.
How much are you going to invest Doug ?

Doug 27-06-2011 13:28
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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 914547)
How much are you going to invest Doug ?
Not a great deal Jeff; couple of reasons like the business is on hold until the wife's cancer is sorted out and I'm having to fire fight creditors as well as look after my family's needs. Very much like a number of others in and around Accrington and beyond who I would suspect are struggling for various reasons and won't be making any investment other than tentative support.

I won't be buying into a 1 million pound share offer that is for sure; I would if I could Jeff; if I had it, I'd be pouring it in; I suspect hundreds of others would do the same; but like me, most working supporters will have more challenging and pressing financial priorities.

I tried to do the best I could during the SOS campaign; I paid my entry fee for the gate of all the post SOS home games even though I never left Bispham on those days; I made donations when I could, has I try to now with Rob's fantastic effort for Marie Curie. And; when I can I will return to the Clayton End and buy all the add on's I can afford.

Much as been said about a new home for the club, much as also been said about new sponsors coming on board; but I'm concerned that much of the promise of a new dawn for Stanley will be blighted by our not (the Club) holding on to our key assets; coley's good, he's fantastic in fact, best we have ever had: (my opinion) but like all those that have go before there comes a point when it becomes difficult to sustain the effort. It's not my money I know; but I had hoped that a substantial investment in retaining and strengthen last seasons team would have been made; in my mind this would have sent the right message out to potential investors and sponsors that would have allowed us to push for promotion again and all the potential financial benefits that could have seen the club becoming a viable investment.

Like I said Jeff; I won't be investing a great deal at all. I hope this answers your question, Can I ask you in return; will you be investing anything; as a supporter.

JEFF 27-06-2011 14:01
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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 914633)
but I had hoped that a substantial investment in retaining and strengthen last seasons team would have been made
My point was "a substantial investment would have been made" by whom ?
Not you, not me, not anybody that I know. So where do you think that this "substantial investment" would come from to retain and strengthen last seasons team ? The Club has no money and that is that.


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