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as a bit of a distraction from the play-offs :)

No doubt Ilyas has researched the idea as thoroughly as possible and is probably continuing to do so, and there are no guarantees that it will even happen, but what ideas do we the fans think need to be incorporated into any new stadium build?

We know that he reads this forum and views it as an ideal medium for fan to board interaction, so perhaps if even just one nugget is incorporated that hadn't been even considered then its worthwhile.


I'd like to start by offering that in order to maintain some linkages to our heritage that perhaps we should incorporate the design element of our current stadium (the good bits anyway) into any new build. The main stand and the Clayton End are reasonably well constructed and are different than the usual identikit breeze block things that keep cropping up.

Obviously they''d be on a reasonably larger scale but the good bit of what we have is that they offer unrestricted views. I'd like the roof extending backwards as well so that any 'facilities' offered are under cover (and bricked in).

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Id be happy with a similar design to the pirelli stadium in burton. Its the perfect size with a great main stand/ entrance and has everything you need. Indoor snack bar, tvs with scores on etc.

We can only but dream!

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A fully standing home end would do me.

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Whatever the past and my memories of Accrington; many of them painful, I am immensely proud of my association with the town, its history and culture which is centuries old and still developing.

The Stadium should be the centre and heartbeat of the town and its design should recognise these facts.

What I would like to see is:

A Memorial Wall to the Accrington Pals and all those who have served in the service of their Townships and country since; irrespective of Race; Culture, Religion or Politics. I would like this to be funded by the common supporters and people of the area, A Tenner a brick campaign maybe.

Also a Memorial Wall to reflect the history of the townships and surrounding areas and its industries and its people, reflecting the benefits and impact on the area.

A living History Museum reflecting the History of the Accrington Stanley through time and the people who have impacted on the Club. This should also focus on obtaining items of historical significance old and modern. This area should also have a strong teaching and learning element to bring a wider and more divers fan base for the club.

A cultural centre and multi faith centre to work for the benefit of the community.

This is just some of the things that I would like to see built around or incorporated into the stadium. If it’s going to be a community club with the community at its heart it must serve the needs of that community 7 days a week, every week of the year. Not just a Football club for Accrington Stanley but the Heart of Accrington.

This is going to be a unique opportunity, nothing should be missed.

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I would like to see what every person who has ever been associated with Accrington Stanley would want, from the Manager to the supporters and players.............







A nice flat well drained pitch :)

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and I would love to see our team with its own tunnel, I feel a buzz whenever I see a team appear from a tunnel.

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I like this effort that Brighton have put into their new ground, and its certainly one that I'd want ot visit,

BBC Sport - Football - Behind the scenes at Brighton's new ground

basically they are putting lighting into the away end that will make the walls look the colour of the visitors, as well as putting up pictures on the walls that can be replaced weekly and will feature the away team. Little things but they add up to the feeling that your money is wanted and respected.

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I think you'd need to make it more than a Stadium purely for the Football, the ability to host other events, concerts & such like thereby giving it a use outside of the Season & enabling the club to accrue profit all year round.

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Standing area as Wynonie points out is probably the most important thing put perhaps like Morecambe have done with the terracing in such a way should the higher leagues come calling one day it would be a cost effective measure to install seats.

It's hard with new stadiums in that they can become souless places as a few bits in the thread have pointed out already, it is also a balance in terms of coporate and outside footy facilities but one that has to be fully understood to ensure all year round usage and a good income stream from it bearing in mind all the other leisure and meeting venues already in the area in terms of motorway etc. access.

I would like to see a bigger shop for young Lewis to work his magic with which I am sure would be a good income generator.

A proper Supporters Bar not just for use on matchdays but something that can have multi usage.

I like the Bundesliga set-up in terms of what they offer from a fan point of view and maybe Dave in Germany can help on that one?

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Don't want a new stadium i think we fit in well in our little tin pot set up, think a bit of the appeal would die for me if we where to move

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Any sort of ground would be a couple of years down the line, at the moment however a roof on the away end, more toilets and new changing rooms are a must! Stick seats at the bottom half of an away end or make it all seater and make the clayton end all standing again...

Ideas for a new stadium, something small with a home terrace behind one of the goals would do me fine

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Redevolope what we have may be the way forward,build a macclesfield town type stand down the whinney hill side and put seats behind the current coppice away end with a roof.and remove the seats out of the clayton end:)

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Personally I would prefer to stand but most people I can persuade to come either prefer or need to sit. For me the ideal in a new stadium would be seats above and behind the standing home terrace behind the goal - the Stretford End used to have seats behind it when I went there to exercise my red and white scarf in the 62-72 interregnum. Then there could be a decent bar / snack bar / toilet area underneath the seating area (like the Dagger's refurbished away end, which has even got tellys to check the half-time scores etc). That'd do me ....

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Was working on this a while back.

Stadium Stanley

Capacity 7000
Main Stand 2000 Seated
North Stand 2000 Standing
East Stand 1000 Seated
South Stand 2000 Standing

Could be easily built on the current site with a minor pitch re alignment

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http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...uthTerrace.jpg
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http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...anley/Main.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...nley/Boxes.jpg
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:D

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I would have thought redevelopment of the current ground is a no go. The infrastructure around the ground is poor, not to mention any re-development would also probably be objected to by the neighbours.

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I would only build a new stadium if we go up, otherwise we won't get the crowds to give it the same atmosphere as the crown.

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What about a stadium like the one on the Bet365 advert. If the football gets boring you press a button and it moves all over the place :D

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Personally I like Fatgaz's idea. but I would reduce the capacity to 6,500 for now with the proviso that extra space could be added without the need for major re-development i.e. add to the current infrastructure.
capacities would be 2000 for main stand 1500 for the opposite stand (Whinney Hill) and 1500 for the home and away ends (all sides to be covered).
If possible, put the changing rooms under one of the stands (Whinney Hill?) and totally redevelop the main stand to allow for a number of corporate boxes with facilities below for catering.

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Should be able to fit this behind KFC...

http://www.fosterandpartners.com/con...ial%20view.jpg

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You will have to reduce the capacity of the away end to 1,000 so you can get all 105,000 Stanley season ticket holders in :D

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Never mind about the 62-72 interwhatsit...where were you in 63-66?...and 70-71, come to think of it. Part-time supporter! ;)

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Thing is its about trying to make stanley self sufficient, far as i'm aware, surely a better chance of attaining that, wi a new ground wi other facilities, that cannot be incorporated at the crown?:confused:

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Ooops - didn't engage brain and got the dates wrong :o - I invaded the pitch at Peel Park when we won the Lancs Comb Div 2 title, and saw the first game at the Crown. But I have to admit I didn't get properly back on board until the Conference winning season, so guilty as charged m'lud.

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So you were there in '64 and '70...go on then, I'll let you off! :D

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quite right. Unfortunately football even at this level, can't be sustained by the saturday efforts alone - if we could then I'd fight tooth and nail to remain at The Crown. The Crown has been our home for over 40 years and carries many, many memories. The efforts of those early custodians who used to collect bent nails and rob timber from kids bonfires should never be forgotten, neither more should Peel Park. We could redevelop The Crown for 20% of the cost of a new ground and it would more than do for us, and no doubt we'd make it work to a fashion. But we move on.

The Community lads need to be able to offer more and better opportunities than they do. The matchday club is a reasonable success as it is I believe, and that involves walking the kids from Moorhead to the ground. How much better would that be if the coaching on offer was in the bowels of the stadium with matchday noise echoing through the halls. The kids would be walked out onto the stand in much the same way as Sunday school kids were at church.

Could the commercial team produce far better results if they had improved facilities (their own offices for a start) and maybe the ability to print their own material rather than outsourcing?

Could we make better use of our medical staff if they had their own surgery to work from? Could that be turned into a commercial operation by offering a Sports Injury Clinic open to the public? Could Stanley financial department offer an Insurance policy to all local sportsmen using our surgery as a base?

It sounds silly and by no means is this an offer of an idea, but we have Stanley taxi's in Accrington. Such a taxi firm could be run by Stanley for Stanley from a poky little office at the side of the ground. Like I said its a silly idea and not particularly lucrative, but a few smaller ideas can soon blossom into something that snowballs. Offer the ideas forward and your reward could be to see it to fruition :eek:

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As always thought provoking stuff and one would hope that the Club would take onboard some of the ideas on here when planning/consultation starts to begin as what better place to begin than your customer base.

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I would like to see the first stone laid for the building of a new ground, but I doubt that I ever will. Even so, it's nice to dream. I think that we will be at the Crown Ground for a long time to come.

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to generate income, is there a need for a snooker club, skittles alley or darts venue in the town ? If so, maybe these could be incorporated in a new Whinny Hill stand if Stanley crowds can't justify a new stadium. Do the players feel any positive benefit in kicking towards a 'home' end - if so, why not house away fans in a side pen and then we can have double-bubble to encourage the lads. Community-wise, is there a need for a boxing club (with gym for use by our players) - and surely Stanley ladies can put some feminine input to the 'suggestion box'.

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I'm sure there's enough hairdressers in Accrington already!

I like the idea of all these little companies under one big umbrella. Lots of top teams do it, I'm sure if you wanted anything with a Man Utd logo on you could get it! When I got my tickets from the Crown I was chatting to Lew about how things are and he said only 2 people currently generate income for Stanley (excluding player sales). A taxi firm, gym, boxing club, snooker club, corporate boxes, proper ticket office, fancy offices, conference facilities, Starbuck's would all help make Stanley the community club we want it to be.

Does anyone remember Everton's bid to have a Tesco in their new ground?

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Not sure what context that was in but I reckon there's well over a thousand every home game :)

Horrible ground ! Just a massive breezeblock with no atmosphere or anything !! Looks like a business park from the outside !!

No to legoland grounds !!!

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agreed. Nice and straightforward, probably easier to maintain, but characterless and souless.

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Peel Park had soul, mind yeh i was a kid back then.

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Itll never happen but Id like to see a new ground slap bang in the town centre like where netto is. It would generate more money for shops and pubs aswel.

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Exactly where the new Tesco is? Rail links, bus links, short distance off the motorway.

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Perhaps then more reason to redevelop the current ground, just off the motorway, bus links right to the front door (so to speak) and rail links within a couple of miles. Easy access from either A56 highway in the sky or M65, just could do with some clearer signs on the motorway junctions i.e. leave at junction 7 for ASFC as they have for Oswastwistle Mills!

All that is needed at the Crown is a redevelopment of the Whinney Hill to incorporate corporate/sponsors lounge, changing rooms and food/retail outlets under the stand - Oh and a roof for the away spectators - Cost £4 million, keep many of the punters already going to watch Accy very happy and would still be a soulful place - Oh yes, one other thing, remove the seats from the Clayton end! Now that would make a lot of spectators happy

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the 'main' stand will always be on the westerly side of the ground on any new build due to the setting sun of a 3pm quick off.

The other thing is that any offices, or corporate sponsorship, or even a coach dropping off away players, will all expect car parking to be right outside the door. The Whinney Hill side will never have that

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Plus the folk on the jam butty estate behind the cowsheds would never put up with it - they wouldn't be able to see the game from their bedroom windows :rolleyes:

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Who was here first??????

:hidewall:

Gonna try a different Idea on the design front, to be honest the that first Idea was a generic design that can be applied to any lower league club.

Gonna have a crack at what the Crown would look like with two sides redeveloped, seats removed from Clayton End etc.;)

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It wouldn't take much to level the ground out the back of the Whinney Hill and there is enough of it for coaches and directors car parking. may have to shore up the neighbours gardens but as FatGaz says, who was here first! So the club will need planning consent, would not do any harm in trying

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I think the issue would be with Livingston Rd, rather than Whinney Hill estate. I think it might be the Church site or Huncoat Power Station.

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Rumours about Accrington Tesco not working out that well and may shut down. Now that would be perfect?

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Accrington Tesco is going to be a b&q

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Don't think so,ceilings to low.:hehetable

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Cant see tesco shutting down already, after total profits of 110 quid a second!

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Seeings believing, heard many rumours, just don't buy it.

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Nothing new really about a new stadium Heys: Accrington Stanley may need a move to progress (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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You can just imagine the scenario

CF picks up the phone and calls Rob Heys

CF : Hi Rob, any news for me today ?

RH : No Chris is close season it's quiet

CF : Any news on the stadium plans ?

RH : Nothing further to add than last time

CF : Okay cheers Rob, I'll dig up the old story and reprint it

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That guy would be a crap reporter in the "Beano":rolleyes:

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I think the Beano would have higher journalistic standards than to offer him a job.

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yer right.....i apologize to "ALL" Beano journalists.:D;)

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in the mullin interview it say mullin stanley's all time leading goalscorer

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What has Rotherham Council got that Hyndburn hasn't, I wonder?
BBC News - Rotherham FC lent £5m by council for football stadium
Other than £5million and some spare land.

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Maybe they haven't been asked yet :)

From what we know on here as to the idea behind anew stadium for Stanley, it sounds like a similar idea;

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depends what the agreement is. Darlington had some contribution to their ridiculous stadium via the council, but the trade-off was that the Council benefitted from a percentage of the daily revenue. There was a similar deal at Doncaster with their £32m stadium