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From the BBC's gossip column:

Accrington midfielder Jimmy Ryan is in line for a dream move from the League Two club to Spanish side Real Zaragoza. (The Sun) :eek::eek:

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Just read it now.

Would obviously be devastating but nobody could stop that

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And from the Telegraph

Welcome to the world of successful football

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Just for interest how much do you recon he would be worth

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We would get nothing for him. No contract and was trained at Liverpool.

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I would have thought Jimmy's dream move would have been back to Anfield, but this is the Sun :D

I'm usre Stanley will be classed as contributing to his development and still recieve something

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Phew...... I thought this was true until you mentioned The Sun

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Under the bosman ruling we would get something for him as he is Under 24. All that is required is we offer him a contract of equal or better terms to his existing deal.

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he has been with us for 3 years and is a virtual ever present. That would class as more than contributing to his development. If he is clasped as good enough for La Liga then we are in for a bumper payment. By the way, the rumour at the awards night (over heard players) was that West Ham were in for him

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This publicity is normally generated by players agents to get clubs looking and hopefully a lucrative contract.
To be fair to Jimmy,I have said all along he should be playing at an higher level (championship),and was a far better player than Grant.
I have never seen him give less than 110% on a football field,but hope Acci get in the 1st Division and retain his services for another season at least.

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sssshhhhh!!

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Jimmy whooo.... nahhh other clubs you dont want him........ you might want him after we have played in league one for a year or two :p

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Don't think that we would get anything for him as he is out of contract and would be going to a different country under different FA rules. If he moved to a club in England then we would get a fee for him as we did for Bobby Grant.

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Pretty sure the Bosman ruling is throughout Europe - didn't it start from a case between Belgian and Dutch teams ?

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includes all EU countries. There is a further ruling which includes all ACP (whatever they are) countries that have an associate trading relationship with an EU country.

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This is what happened when Joe Ledley moved from Cardiff to Celtic
Cardiff pursuit of Celtic for Ledley fee doomed to fail | Football | STV Sport

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To be fair I think the rumour is far fetched. I can't see a Spanish scout having been over to look at Jimmy...

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Totally agree. I also think that Jimmy would be far out of his depth playing in the Spanish League.

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Wasn't that related to the transfer falling through a loophole because his age was between 23 and 24? Jimmy's 22 so presumably that wouldn't apply.

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Jimmy isn't going to Real Zaragoza anyway so it doesn't really make much difference. The highest he will go, if he goes, is Championship and I don't think that he is good enough for that level at the moment.

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I dont think jimmy would be out of his depth as spanish football is a lot slower but more technical,which is jimmys strength.
Remember watchin a game around 3 years ago at Northwich vics ground between man utd and blackburn resis,and among the scouts were two from Barcelona ! .
They had come to watch Piquet(who was crap and was subbed),the rest is history.

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To be fair Zagortha are towards the bottom of La Liga and it is a weak league towards the bottom.

Look at Jay Spearing at Liverpool, there aint much between him and Jimmy, I reckon he could do a job in Spainish football.

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Meanwhile, all three of Jimmy's goals on Saturday are in 'League 2 in 90 seconds'
under 'Latest video and audio highlights' on BBC football.

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Jimmy would look far better if we had a nice big stadium with a good viewing angle for the camera. Few goals ever look good at The Crown due to the rubbish angles. I remember Paul Mullin banging one over the keepers head at Port Vale a few seasons back, it looked a belter on the replay but was no better than what you see week in week out at The Crown

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Wasn't Chris Coleman at Real Zaragoza?

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Chris Coleman ????
John Coleman ????

This is getting spooky :eek:

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No Real Sociedad.

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Will the Real Real please stand up :p

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:)Jimmy has been great for Stanley as Stanley has for him

Also Bear in mind we actually picked him up from Shrewsbury

As Dave points out earlier in the thread it is something we will have to become accustomed to as fans when you have a successful team meadia attention follows.

For the moment there is one focus and that is the play-offs:)

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Considering some of the millions paid for the likes of Torres and his replacement Carroll at Liverpool then Jimmy could be worth a few million too. Of course he is unproven at higher levels but I think that he and several other of our boys at Stanley are absolutely priceless. Let's break the "Selling on" trend and keep our players and just see what we can achieve!! Look how far we have come in the last ten years or so. Some people are describing Stanley's rise as a fairy story but in truth it is a story of dedication, hard work and teamwork against all the odds. Long may our story continue, especially now as we finally seem to be entering a period of financial transparency and off the field stability. Come on you REDS!!

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:) Couldn't agree more,great post!! karma for you

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Life in the Spanish leagues would suit someone like jimmy and his type of play ! Acres and acres of space to move into and pass the ball about short and wide which is one of jimmys main strengths !! Also lots of time and time for shots at goal !

Also over there it isn't as physical so his size wouldn't matter !! He played a good game at torry that time and only got subbed due to risking him getting injured!

You don't see many Midfield league two players scoring a hat trick !!

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great post choirboy agree 100%, jimmy has had a great season, reality is though, doubtful if stanley would get oer 350K fer him, as you say unproven at a higher level, now if we went up n he produces at Div 1 level, his value would rise big time, which i reckon would be better fer both Jimmy n Stanley.IMHO.

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choices, choices time for the club.

We haven't the option of 'cashing' in as his transfer fee under the Bosman ruling wouldn't be as great as under contract. Do we accept that he is likely to move on and get what we can for him (bearing in mind that we wouldn;'t stand in the way of a player moving on), or do we offer him the contract that he undoubtedly deserves in the hope that his form carries on next season and we can hope for a bumper pay day?

As a League 1 club we could realistically hope to double what we could get for him, and any pay rise (based on his L2 salary) would be offset slightly by having gone up anyway. But if we dont go up then we may be saddled with a contract that is way above what we can pay, and clubs might be put off buying him knowing they'd have to part with a fee.

We have to offer him an improved contract in order to get anything at all out of a Bosman tribunal, and I believe that the nature of the offer has a bearing on what a tribunal will rule at (ie offer him a pittance and his fee would be next to nowt, triple his wages and make him the highest earner bar none and his fee soars)

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I would imagine contracts will not need to be discussed till we know what League we will be playing in next season.

Go up League money will improve gates I would imagine will average around the 2500 mark with away followings over the course of the season plus all the other add ons in more sponsorship large numbers of walk ons (away fans) at the new £16 price.

All of which should help balance the books better and may strenghen the Clubs hand in maybe not having to lose players?

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"Accrington Stanley have insisted they know Jimmy Ryan knew nothing about sur[rise reports linking him to Real Zaragoza - and the club would push for as much as £750,000 if they cannot persuade their star midfielder to stay this summer ....... we'll be offering Jimmy the best contract we possibly can"

todays LT

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His agents done his job then !!!!!

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I am suprised it is Spain who are after our Jimmy, only a few games ago a scout from Blackpool was sat along side of me watching the game, he had also been to Crewe to watch us , he said he was impressed with what he saw , patted me on back , wished us well for the rest of the season and left just before we score two more goals.

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Agents are the pimps of football (don't ask what that makes the players!) and the me-djah are desparate for any gossip to fill their 24-hour agenda. Someone could tip off a hack that the All Blacks were interested in signing Jimmy Ryan, and it would appear somewhere.
Jimmy Ryan has been oustanding for Stanley and he deserves all he can achieve from his efforts, but the club faces this issue at the end of every season. I was down when Grant, Symes and Arthur left and feared the worst. But the club has achieved more than anyone (other than Messrs Coleman and Bell) could have dreamed of. All the squad has been oustanding. If Jimmy Ryan moves on, let's hope we still have Joyce, Craney, and Barnett. More importantly, let's pray we still have John Coleman and Jimmy Bell.

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Out of interest have just watched Levante v Real Zaragosa, its made me very happy, that the story by the BBC was utter rubbish, Jimmy would struggle to get in R.Zs second eleven IMHO.:)