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shakermaker 12-09-2011 22:26

Rotherham thread
 
Match preview here: ASFC News Story > 4295 Good work Jewell!

Dunbavin
Murphy Hessey Long Winnard
Joyce Procter
Lindfield Craney Fletcher
Amond

That'd be my preferred line-up. However, realistically I think Murdoch will be in goal and McIntyre will play. Not impressed with the latter at all. Think Coid will come on from the bench at some point.

2-1 Accy.
Fletcher & Amond.
(Wes Paddy, Paddy Wes)

smudgie 13-09-2011 07:52

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Is putting bavs in a wind up?

Murdoch has been brilliant!

football19 13-09-2011 07:58

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I would go one step further,and say hes better than Cisak.
Both commanding keepers with a good kicking game,but Murdoch is a better shot stopper

smudgie 13-09-2011 08:12

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For the first time ever football19 I probably agree.

Murdoch has been a Superb find!

football19 13-09-2011 08:34

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Cant see it lasting tho smudgie :):):)

cashman 13-09-2011 09:21

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I reckon summut going on between Shaker n Bavs.:rolleyes::hehetable

shakermaker 13-09-2011 09:29

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Just think Bavs deserves a league game is all. Would keep Murdoch on his toes. Also with the way our luck with penalties is going I'd rather Bavs face them personally.
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smudgie 13-09-2011 09:35

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Bavs is the number 2, simple.

You dont pick someone out of sympathy.

Bavs will play in the JPT to keep his sharpness, if he has a blinder and Murdoch a stinker then Coley will consider it ive no doubt.

But for now Murdoch is unquestionably the number 1!

cashman 13-09-2011 09:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 933179)
Just think Bavs deserves a league game is all. Would keep Murdoch on his toes. Also with the way our luck with penalties is going I'd rather Bavs face them personally.
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Penalties should not be saved by any class of keeper,the fact some are- is more down to good fortune than owt else imho.

football19 13-09-2011 11:24

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back to the match tonight,i think it maybe an unchanged team from saturday,but i personally would have moved proccy back instead of murph,and brought craney in

smudgie 13-09-2011 11:47

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For the hundredth time, even coley has said it, craney is NOT fully fit!

Long time red 13-09-2011 12:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 933236)
For the hundredth time, even coley has said it, craney is NOT fully fit!

What is " Fully Fit" is he recovering from a long term injury and not quite there yet. does it mean not yet achieved full fitness after the close season if so why. Or is he now at a stage in his playing career that he cant play 90 mins. Just seems a funny statement to put out.

football19 13-09-2011 13:18

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Surely if your not 100% fit,its better starting the game and get match fitness,even if you only last 60 minutes.
Training is no substitute for match time

cashman 13-09-2011 13:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by football19 (Post 933246)
Surely if your not 100% fit,its better starting the game and get match fitness,even if you only last 60 minutes.
Training is no substitute for match time

i concur wi that line of thinking,even if yeh only last until half time.;)

maccawozzagod 13-09-2011 15:23

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We don't have a good enough team to carry passengers. Our results are usually borne out sheer hard work and persistence and we can I'll afford to carry passengers. If he ain't fit then pack him off to fat club until he is fit.

Having said that he'd walk (rather than run?) back into my team when he is fully fit.

smudgie 13-09-2011 15:31

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On the bench, impact sub for me.

Redraine 13-09-2011 16:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 933282)
We don't have a good enough team to carry passengers. Our results are usually borne out sheer hard work and persistence and we can I'll afford to carry passengers. If he ain't fit then pack him off to fat club until he is fit. Having said that he'd walk (rather than run?) back into my team when he is fully fit.

Well said Macca. As I have mentioned before, I don't think he has ever shown us the true Craney since his comeback game away at Bury, I think , his 2nd comeback, when he was on fire. I wish it were otherwise, but I seriously doubt that he is capable of reaching that level ever again.

Redraine 13-09-2011 16:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by football19 (Post 933146)
I would go one step further,and say hes better than Cisak.
Both commanding keepers with a good kicking game,but Murdoch is a better shot stopper

Agreed. I think he looks like being our best keeper since Elliot, including Kenny Arthur. I don't think any keeper in the world would have saved Gillingham's penalty.

Kiwi John 13-09-2011 18:19

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Morning boys and girls...its raining off and on here but not enough to keep me off work and be able to follow the mighty STANLEY dam it.

Chimer 13-09-2011 19:50

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Hi Kiwi, you're not alome ...

Haggis316 13-09-2011 21:05

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The Rotherham manager was on Radio Sheffield previewing the match.

He gave a marvellous warm glowing tribute to John Coleman, his players and the club and its supporters and a very astute analysis as to what makes Stanley special.

I heard it in the build up after 7 but if you get the chance to hear it in an iplayer "listen again" of their main footie programme between 6 and 7 its well worth a listen.

cashman 13-09-2011 21:27

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well my thoughts- watched a good game wi 2 good sides tonight, n Rotherham should be there at the death this season, no complaints about result, though stanley could have nicked it at the death wi Craney clear in box screaming fer a ball that never came, only grumble- cowshed liner had the vision of "Stevie Wonder" missed far to many things, balls outa play, handball in box which was right in front of him,complete useless cretin. Stanley will climb this league i have no doubt, also not a dirty tackle in the game, well done both sides.:)

shakermaker 13-09-2011 21:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 933186)
Bavs is the number 2, simple.

You dont pick someone out of sympathy.

Bavs will play in the JPT to keep his sharpness, if he has a blinder and Murdoch a stinker then Coley will consider it ive no doubt.

But for now Murdoch is unquestionably the number 1!

Who said anything about sympathy? In my opinion Bavs deserves a start. I'm not convinced that Murdoch is any better than Dunbavin, let alone better than Cisak as some on here feel. I don't think there's a clear number one/number two situation like you do. But that's cool, it's all about opinions. I don't try to push my opinions forward as facts.

Strange game tonight. Thought we were outplayed by a better team for the vast majority of the match, but we seemed to be the ones making the better & clearer chances. Very odd. The draw was a fair result in the end.

Onto individuals, McIntyre is ok going forward but a liability at the back. Would much prefer Deano on the left and Murph at right back; I'm not convinced by his efforts in midfield though he did work very hard. For me, we need Craney back in that team asap as we don't have a creative force in the attacking four players. Credit to Podge & Wes for conjuring chances out of scraps but we'd be much more lethal with healthy service for them. Deano & Joycey reliable as ever, Fletcher a class above.

lancsmatt 13-09-2011 22:21

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Like the little I've seen of Murdock, but keeping is all about consistency and he hasn't achieved that yet. The potential is there but he has some way to go to get to Kenny Arthur's level for us yet. Fingers crossed but lets not get too carried away, a few saves for the cameras are sod all use if he makes a significant mistake every game. Not getting on his back, think he's a great signing, but plenty of work yet needed and to compare him to KA is a little premature

cashman 13-09-2011 22:45

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Put it this way regarding keepers, "Keep The Faith" n Meself were in the Shrewsbury supporters bar outside their ground last season, we were nattering to a bunch of em, they said "Ask Coley to play Dunbavin please, i will let shaker guess the reason they gave us.:D:D:D surely most folk can't be wrong?:confused: though i agree wi shaker regarding Mcintyre defending.

smudgie 14-09-2011 07:14

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I rest my case cashman!

maccawozzagod 14-09-2011 07:17

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I'll take others opinions on his shot stopping but on the two occasions I've seen him so far I've thought his distribution to be poor. Last night he twice gave to a nearby defender who was immediately under pressure, hospital balls?

Decent command of his area though.

smudgie 14-09-2011 08:07

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As for the game itself, I was pleased with a point.

Rotherham are a very good side and will be in the top 3 come the end of the season.

Thought there number 23 up front looked class, mcintyre had a nightmare against him all game. I do believe that is our weak link at the moment unfortunately.

If only coid and leam could be relied on week in week out!

Special mention for buzzer and the pitch, which again was magnificent considering the weather.

Roll on Saturday.

lancsdave 14-09-2011 08:10

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I agree on the main with Shaker, Rotherham were probably the better side for a large part of the game yet the better chances fell to Stanley. Based on last nights match Rotherham will be up there, which should also suggest Stanley won't be a million miles away.

Redraine 14-09-2011 09:40

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Agree with Shaker and Smudgie. What nobody has mentioned is what a big, physical side Rotherham are. Every one of their players must have been over 6 feet tall, some well over, and with pace to burn. At half time I would have been happy with a point, but at the final whistle I thought we almost deserved to nick it. What we lack in inches the lads more than made up for in heart and aggression, Coley having worked his half time magic yet again. A smashing performance by the lads and a great game to watch. Gutted to miss this Saturday's game, but it's no.1 son's 40th. birthday celebration up on Tyneside.:D

football19 14-09-2011 09:48

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Aree with smudgie on this one:)
Was very impressed with Rotherham,good energy,loads of pace in the team,and had a real good shape about them from front to back.
Gabbin and Marshall(deans ex team mate)give mcintyre a torrid time,but to be fair he didnt get much help,but never give up.
The weather played a big part,with the ball moving all over the show,so credit must go to both teams,trying to play the right way.
They will go up automatically,and are the best team i have seen this season by far.
Considering Acci are re-building a team,with young lads coming in,being asked to play in un-familar positions,and not a lot of experience,they will become better players.
Positives-- Long and Hessey were superb again
Negatives--Proccy is not an attacking midfielder,needs moving back to his best position,as we sometimes got over-run in the centre.
I think a draw was a fair result and to battle back playing against a good team,into a strong wind,showed a bit of character,and they could have easily nicked it at the end

cashman 14-09-2011 10:49

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yeh n we could have nicked it at the death when craney was free in the box, so oer all no complaints, thought Proccy was at fault fer Rotherhams goal, he moved off the line,which yeh should never do n ball went in were he should have been.;)

football19 14-09-2011 11:14

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I thought that when it happened!!!,always have someone on the posts at corners,it makes the goals smaller for the keeper.
But why is our tallest player on the post?,doesnt make sense,he should be marking one of there dangermen.

JEFF 14-09-2011 12:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by football19 (Post 933521)
But why is our tallest player on the post?

He wasn't, but he should have been, that is why Rotherham scored. If he had stayed where he was the ball would have hit him.

football19 14-09-2011 12:32

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I will re-word that Jeff !!,You should put your least effective headers of the ball on the posts,and stay there till the ball is cleared :)

smudgie 14-09-2011 16:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Haggis316 (Post 933423)
The Rotherham manager was on Radio Sheffield previewing the match.

He gave a marvellous warm glowing tribute to John Coleman, his players and the club and its supporters and a very astute analysis as to what makes Stanley special.

I heard it in the build up after 7 but if you get the chance to hear it in an iplayer "listen again" of their main footie programme between 6 and 7 its well worth a listen.

Any idea roughly what time it was on mate???

Dont fancy listening to an hour of Yorkshire sport lol

fc:stanley 14-09-2011 17:00

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Entertaining game! Thought the defence had a great game against a very good attacking team! Got lucky on some occasions but we must be owed some by now. Thought aswel that the ref had a good game, one or two not good decisions but was good and let the game flow. Once again proccy with the accy determination.

One thing i didnt like was Joyce playing just infront of the defence. Was always more aless at centre back getting the ball and then passing it to the wings. He should be more attacking i would of thought!

Hopefully can keep fletcher for the rest of the season as hes got the class we need.

smudgie 14-09-2011 17:23

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With the problems the Clarets are having I can see both Wes and Kev going back in January :(

football19 14-09-2011 17:34

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Cant see Long playing div 2 football after january,to progress his learning curve he should at least be playing div 1,which is well within his locker.
Cant believe he was like a donkey until john and jimmy got hold of him :)-----only joking,great potential

Pendle Red 14-09-2011 18:30

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Thought last night was a great game in difficult conditions and a good advert for League Two football with both sides playing good high quality tempo football.

Stanley struggled at the back down the left hand side with Hessey having do a lot of covering this is one area which still concerns me and the Millers had obviously done their homework looking at chinks in Stanley's armour.

We looked good at times going forward with neat interplay and some peach passing from the wings into the area which resulted in panic and last gasp defending from the Millers, Wes puts in a tremendous amount of work as did the majority of the back line and midfield but I still feel we perhaps would get more goals with a front two pairing?

That's only my opinion and to be fair the more exciting football is usually through the rotating midfield three.:)

lancsdave 14-09-2011 18:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 933608)
With the problems the Clarets are having I can see both Wes and Kev going back in January :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by football19 (Post 933611)
Cant see Long playing div 2 football after january,to progress his learning curve he should at least be playing div 1,which is well within his locker.

Do preparations for League One begin in January :(

Haggis316 14-09-2011 20:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 933599)
Any idea roughly what time it was on mate???

Dont fancy listening to an hour of Yorkshire sport lol

The bit after 7pm where I heard it is not on iplayer. Sometimes they repeat interviews in that slot from the 6pm - 7pm part of the show. I have skipped through that and not managed to hear it on iplayer.

Key points were the interviewer saying that Stanley were a very good footballing side that improved year on year on relatively limited resources.
Andy Scott agreed. Said John (Coleman) was doing a marvellous job. He had very good players and rebuilt the team each year. He had a knack of finding young players "with a point to prove" and added the right mix of experience to ensure it all worked well in matches at this level.

Accrington was a hard place to go to with a tight ground but the support and atmosphere amongst the fans was superb. The fans were happier and more relaxed than most because there was not the same weight of expectation. The club had come out of non league and the fans were just happy to have a club that was not merely in the football league but was more than holding its own.

He pointed to Coley's longevity at the club and his year on year improvements but said the club had done so incredibly well last season that it would be difficult to maintain that record this season.

The interview went on in the same vein for about 5 minutes with both Andy Scott and the interviewer clearly very impressed by Stanley and what had been achieved.

Clearly Andy Scott bears no ill feeling from Brentford's rained off game a few seasons ago when he ended up having to placate his own fans making a speech to them as they stood on the terrace

Stanley's well earned point was a partial fix for my other team's dreadful result at Stevenage.

mab 15-09-2011 20:12

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:) For those who haven't seen Hesseys goal ;):D BBC Sport - Highlights - Accrington 1-1 Rotherham :) Bit of quick thinking and fair play to the ref for allowing the quick free kick,those millers didn't like it one bit:rolleyes::D

cashman 15-09-2011 20:25

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cheers mab, proccy should have stayed on the line would have got the 3 pts.


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