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Seeing as the Swindon thread went down well, thought I would start this one early :D:D:D
Who would your XI be??? Options look limited........ Mine.... Nicholls Coid Winnard Liddle Mcintyre Murphy Joyce Barnett Evans Devitt Amond Subs Murdoch Willis Hatfield Guthrie Hatfield :D:D |
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Hatfield so good you've named him twice? :D
4-2-3-1 for me. GK: Nicholls, RB: Coid, CB: Liddle, CB: Winnard, LB: McIntyre, DM: Murphy, DM: Joyce, RAM: Barnett, CAM: Amond, LAM: Devitt, ST: Smith. |
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Oh yeh............ urm Carver then !!
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Is there no sign of Hessey or any other injured being available?:confused:
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Hessey, Craney & Hughes have no chance of making it, I dont think :(
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Carver was sent off in yes days youth game
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That's him out then !!!
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Without a doubt Cashy.
I really hope we turn it round Saturday. Massive day, Vale will be travelling in BIG numbers. |
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Can't see dean playing for a while,so hopefully someone steps in and takes the opportunity to get and keep the shirt.
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To be honest cashy he's been injured since Xmas,but had been asked to play by coley. Too brave or daft in my opinion.That's why I like cooky,he will put the players career before points.
Hes played on trying to help the team,which in my opinion was wrong and done more damage,but kids don't listen !!! |
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I started supporting Accy in 2010 shortly after moving to this area. I do not normally contribute to forums but feel that this is the only way I can vent my frustration at what is now happening at the club.
Like many others I was disappointed at the departure of John Coleman, but was pleased when the club announced that Liam Richardson was to be given a long run, especially after the Gillingham game when the side played without fear, and with a great deal of enterprise and flair. The next thing, completely out of the blue was the appointment of Paul Cook - completely the opposite of the clubs previous statement re Liam Richardson. For Mr Cooks first game v Plymouth he dropped Padrig Armond, probably our most dangerous forward, and the team he put out lacked shape, organisation, and did not attempt to play the usual neat passing game - and instead hoofed the ball upfield. No wonder Plymouth played us off the pitch. Since then we have had a series of completely senseless and totally illogical team changes, and we have the superb record of played 3 lost 3 goals for nil and against 8. This worrying state of affairs has been written off as a "transitional stage". Another writer has said "why fix it if it aint broken" and I totally agree. The side was OK before Mr Cook started messing it up. I do not think he has a clue what he is doing and I doubt if the players know what they are supposed to be doing either - but Mr Cook is not slow to blame them. He picksthe teams!!! Last Saturday I watched Preston play, and if this continues I shall be visiting other clubs than Stanley on a Saturday. I was prepared to put up with the twerps who bang drums far too loudly throughout the match, because the team played such good football, but enough is enough. Please reinstate Liam as manager before this disaster becomes any worse. |
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I have just noticed that I recorded as being a "Junior Member" on here. Well, I am aged 63 so not a junior, although quite flattering, but not being that great with this type of thing, regret that I do not know how to change the error.
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What would you call it then? I thought that we were looking for promotion form, not relegation form, and that it is what it is. I just do not understand the logic of the team selections at all. The lad from Everton seems to be out of his depth but is still in the team. Why drop Hughes? I admit that I am not an expert but having watched football since 1958 I can see when things are seriously wrong.
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I can see your problem if you are more enticed to go to Preston. Anybody would struggle to match Westley's free flowing exciting football :D
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Okey dokey, if you want to adopt an ostrich attitude, thats alright with me! Announcing that Liam was going to be given a run then appointing someone out of the blue is hardly consistent and seems a bit strange to me. Call me a natural whinger if you like, but I predict Stanley will not be going anywhere in an upward direction in the next two years. More likely into a nosedive towards the conference.
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Before the Playmouth I was actually planning to go the Swindon game, but I had no intention of travelling 5 hours to see another loss.
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Some valid points Malcolm,assuming cooky picked the team against Rotherham,the previous 11 games,we won 7,drew3 and lost1 and scoring more than 2goals a game,so it doesn't make good reading.We have now lost 4 and not look like scoring!!!.
Saying that I rate cooky,but wish he would condense the game until we get a few points on board as the pitches will only get worse and not suit his style of play ----keep the faith,it was getting boring winning all the time,and nothing for cashy to moan about lol |
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Malcolm, I often think of myself as a glass half empty man as far as Stanley are concerned, and I can understand the way you feel at the moment. However, it was an extremely dicey time for the new manager to take over with the recent crucial losses of key players from a young squad, as a result of which we had already showed worrying signs of "losing it" even before King Coley left (Barnet e.g.). Even when beating the Gills 4-3 we looked very frail at the back. Positives I can see are as follows:-
Cook's post match comments from Swindon suggest to me that he grasps the realities of the situation very well and seems very positive as to how we can get back on course. It can't be a quick fix, however, for a club of our resources. He has already made what seem to be, hopefully, three good acquisitions. I have only personally seen Devitt in action so far, but early impressions are very favourable. Judging by this messageboard, the fans in general are backing the manager to come good, and hopefully this will show in the crowd continuing to give the team vocal backing at a difficult time. Keep the faith, Malcolm. Don't vote with your feet! |
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"I started supporting Accy in 2010 shortly after moving to this area".
You need to have been a Stanley supporter for another 20 years, at least, before you can even begin to start working them out.;) |
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Just got in from work after a really crap day! Malcolm thankyou! You have put a smile on my face!
Can understand with his changing of the team so rapidly but getting rid of cook! On your bike son!! or back down the hole you mole! |
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Maybe we should have looked into having Coley & Bell cloned before they went to Rochdale :eek:
Seriously though, Coley and Bell were ALWAYS going to be a very tough act to follow. Like others have said, there were some warning signs of our defensive frailty before Coley & Bell left, but these have only been exaggerated / highlighted by injuries. Add to that, we lost key players in Long & Proctor, so ( for me at least) the current predicament / run of poor results was always on the cards.:o I don't for one minute think that the current problems will vanish overnight. It's going to take plenty of hours on the training ground to get things onto an even keel. Looking at the way other results are going and the way the league table is developing, although it's still mathematically possible to get into the play offs, realistically, I think that bird has long since flown the nest..:( So for me, it's now all about consolidation ( which I'm sure most would have been happy with before a ball was kicked this season ) I'm sure Cook is rapidly getting an idea of which positions need strengthening and who he needs to bring in. Giving Cook the rest of this season (and the close season) to evaluate and work on our strengths and weaknesses hopefully will result in a strong push for glory next season...:) As the saying goes "Rome wasn't built in a day" Malcolm. We've had plenty of good times under Coley & Bell. It's time to take the rough, as we've had plenty of smooth !!! It's only fair that we get behind Cooky and Leam and give them time to make their mark on the team. |
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Malcolm in your long and illustrious year and a bit following the club what makes you qualified to indulge in such a petulant rant? You were fortunate to start supporting the club during a period which culminated in our highest ever league finish. Quite simply we were spoilt. This cannot be the yardstick by which the club is measured. Do you expect romping wins every week? True we are on a poor run of form but that is football. The lows are low and the highs are high. And having a pop at the support too is frankly ridiculous.
This is a transitional period. Cooky will get things right...keep the faith. :) Although I thank you for reminding me of this. ;) Moles - YouTube |
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Some good points but I still don't buy into its all down to losing key personal.
I remember us opening the game up against port vale away with hessey,long and proccy playing ,we was 4 down at half time and coley of es did that away from home again . People shouldn't underestimate the tactical side of football, |
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Have to disagree Football19, Whilst tactic is very important no doubt, With a skeleton squad, its unfair to expect the best wi what we got left. Transition from what was, was never gonna be simple, it can be hard enough wi a monster squad.
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Like with anything 19 its always a combination of a few factors.
Losing Hessey, Long & Proccy obviously hasnt helped the situation, but Cooky has also made mistakes along the way. Im just hoping now that he sees where the main problem is, he can sort it come Saturday. By the sounds of it Nicholls and Liddle had decent second halves. Shame about Deano, he is an automatic pick for me. MASSIVE game on Saturday. |
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Fer me excluding Long, Deano from my viewpoint has been the most consistent player this season. Will be a big miss IMHO.:(
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So how can it be so different in you're opinion ????:confused: It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that, if you suddenly robbed Ferguson or Mancini, A.V.B. or Wenger of several key first team players even the mightiest clubs with astronomical resources will struggle. :o So do you still think you cant "buy" into that line of thinking football19 ?? :confused: Tactics are all well and good, and Cooky will still need time to figure out which formation suits best, who fits in with his plans and who he needs to replace!!! Even the greatest managers realize that you can't just throw "square pegs into round holes":o |
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Agree smudgie,when I say tactical, I will give you a example.
Toto is at the start of his career, I would have made sure hee had a bit of protection,ie,fullback tucked in and covering,instead he is isolated and dragged into areas he's not comfortable in. Dean has a man so he's not available, toto is them hung out to dry. Basic defending imo ,but not the modern way apparently. Watch the prem league,half can't defend ,it really does frustrates me |
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It also frustrates me........ BUT Toto in particular is simply not ready. It has been painfully obvious for weeks now. :(
I can count at least 3-4 goals that are directly his fault. Liddle & Murphy play at Center Half for me on Saturday. |
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I think will disagree on this carpon,following the post vale game we went on a 5 game unbeaten with more or less the same team,just different tactics
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so where do you think the first goal in five games is going to come from ?.. |
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Best post so far ----no goals in four games and the keeper and centre half get the blame --- now that's humour lol
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'Money buy's success ..lack of money brings Hard Times '.. True or what ??.. |
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It doesn't matter how long the guy's been watching Stanley he's still entitled to his view and doesn't deserve the abuse he's received. Tell him he's wrong by all means but leave out the "Whinger and Mole" attacks. After all Stanley supposedly prides itself on being a friendly club. Healthy debate can bring people together but abuse is only likely to alienate people when the club needs all the support it can get, And by the way. First Stanley game attended 1970 v Formby. I know all about the highs and lows of supporting this unique football club. |
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Whinger is not n attack, its a statement of fact. Its called straight talking, if yeh dont grasp that tough.:rolleyes:
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Must be a record this match thread........ 5 days before the game and 4 pages long !!! :)
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Very interesting to read all these comments when all I wanted to do was make a point, not stir up a wasps nest and cause aggro!
For the record since April 2010 I have attended every home game I have been able to, plus some away games. When I go to home games I sit as far away from the drums as possible, simply to avoid a headache. I would go to more away games but I have to stand near the din - so I don't bother. My wife came with me to Morecambe and not only did we have the din to put up with but some stupid twits decided that we all needed large flags etc placed around us. Given the high winds that day we thought that this was downright stupid. As far as I am concerned if you need the help of drums to create an atmosphere there is something wrong with the football. I am not the only person who finds the loud drumming annoying, plenty of others have made the same comment to me. Now whether folk think I am a whinger, or not, I really do not care, because I have been around far too long and I am too thick skinned to worry. I have simply made my point and I just hope that your faith in Mr Cook is not in vain. Finally, I have lived all over the country and since 1958 and seen a lot of football in that time. Although I am not from Lancashire, my wife is, having been born and bred in the Ribble Valley. She and all her family and friends are the most friendly and welcoming people I have ever met. Sorry if I have upset some of her fellow Lancastrians. The "malcolm the mole" username refers to the fact that I am a genealogist (for the benefit of Cashman who might not know, it means a Family Historian), and it is an username I use elsewhere and was the only thing that this forum would accept. I suppose that reflects the popularity of this forum at least. |
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Just one further point before I sign off for good. Mr Coleman made the point after he left that when the club were top of the conference they were getting twice as many attending as they do now. Given the current financial climate, which is bound to have an affect, I have to wonder how many people are in fact put off by the drumming. Did the drumming exist in 2005? Just a thought to mull over.
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I shall probably be at the game on Saturday, complete with Aspirin, and will be optimistic and hope for the best.
I think I have caused enough friction on here, so I thought I would sign off. Good luck to the team and the management. |
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We got cookieo u got . Malcolmthemole.
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From sligo
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Nat Taylor bk in non league
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Cashman, your poor standard of grammer, punctuation and spelling clearly matches your level of intelligence, which is self evident. Only someone of your level of intelligence would resort to hurling abuse instead of constructive comment.
There are rules about abusive comment on this forum but I do not expect that you have read them. Webmaster please note. In view of your lovely comments, I shall go elsewhere this Saturday and see some decent football - without the drumming. |
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"I am a genealogist (for the benefit of Cashman who might not know, it means a Family Historian"
Who do You Think You Are ??????? :tongueout |
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Thats a spellchecker for you!
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I reckon Cooky is off the hook anyway, the drum is obviously far more of an irritant :D
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good riddance!!! |
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Besides, that was Cashy being friendly. You ought to hear him on the Clayton End when he really lays into somebody! :D |
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It's even more of a shock when they find out he's uglier than he is grumpier :rofl38::rofl38: |
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As for away games, the drum is more or less banned from everywhere so theres no excuse. Are you Depeche Mode in disguise? Miss that moaner. |
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Drums, Singing, Passion, Pride,The ultras supporting our team win lose or draw through the highs and lows dreaming of glory this is my Stanley thats what it is all about
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Finally got myself an Avatar........ :D
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:) smudgie see what you started;):D
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Fantastic debate and banter!!,Cashy you nearly caused me it spit my drink of tea all over the keyboard.
Malcolm,you shouldt take the comments to heart,the stanley lads on here are real diehards and love the club. I still get hammered for my views,but thats the basis of healthy debate. Make no mistake tho malcolm,there are some posters on here who know there football and deep down are just as frustrated as you,but Acci fans are a different breed when it comes to committed support,win,lose or draw,they still turn up---real hardcore speccies |
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i think some of the posts were scripted by them :)
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Anyway, there's no doubt that we need to get going again. A clean sheet would be a good start, especially if we can score for the first time in a while. |
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Reckon we should order drum number four especially for Malcolm!
It is going to be the BIGGEST, LOUDEST, BASS DRUM ever, and it is going to be covered entirely in "Mole Skin!" Keep the faith come on you reds! We just need a lucky break! |
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The last infantile message probably sums up the mentality of some of the Accrington fans. I really do not wish to be associated with what appears to be a load of childlike individuals.
Putting text in large bold print is considered to be bad etiquette, says it all about the authors I guess. Good riddance to you as well. Anyone want an Accrington scarve? I shall not be using it again. |
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shut the door on the way out you loon
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The awkward moment when a person announces their departure and never actually leaves... (or is that leafs?)
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Infantile was good word to use Malcolm, yer a 63 yr old one.:D By the way if yeh care to check back on the thread, i started to explain certain things to yeh, Like the person yeh are yeh started responding by calling me n ostrich, They always say "Yeh can't put sense,were there is none" never mind i did try.
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I'll pay dubble for dummy spitter to stay away . ;)
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It appears to me you have no passion for our football club and only want to follow a club that is winning, well good luck cos with your attitude we don,t want you or need you, shut the door on your way out and we will bolt it. oh and by the way you can shove your etiquette right up where the sun don,t shine matey.:mad::mad::mad: |
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Is that a pice out of the Accy bible
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Who needs Malc Moleio, We got Paul Cookio.......
One For Saturday ? :D |
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Special request for Malcolm. Enjoy yourself at Deepdale! :cool:
The Southlanders - The Mole In The Hole - YouTube |
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Just seen these two stories on the B.B.C. Never good news for the FANs, whatever the crooks and criminals at Vale have done, it should not be down to the supporters to pickup the pieces, but as always, it is!!! :(
BBC Sport - Port Vale unable to pay players BBC Sport - Port Vale hit by winding-up petition |
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More terrible news for our League!!
Sounds a familiar situation :( |
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Feel fer the vale fans,aint good n we should know.:(
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Interesting interview with Paul Cook on radio Lancs this evening which is within the link.
BBC - BBC Radio Lancashire Programmes - Sport It explains a few things and perhaps and indication of where the Club is going and some interesting points raised. Returning to the thread everyone is entitled to their views and to spend their coin where they like, I think what it does show is once again the Stanley support is galvanised through thick & thin and are also robust enough enough to take on the chin when things perhaps are not going as swimmingly as some would like whether results wise or in other ways. Time will tell where we go but as events today remind us we punch far above our weight and could so easily not have a Club to support. From small acorns but the proudest achievement has to be we survive and keep moving forward there still lots to do to keep the Club moving forward and growing but that is part of the challenge of being one of a select band which is being a Professional Football League Club something other Clubs and Suporters can only aspire to for us it is real and is something to be mightily proud of whilst not forgeting what it has took to get to this point. |
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It really is very sad and a little embarrassing Cashy when one comes across an individual who feels the need to make some contribution to our Forum by firstly making a poor fist of analyzing the current situation at the Crown...then secondly, when his thoughts are challenged in the many varying styles we see day in day out in the threads posted hereon, uses undisguised condescension as his chosen route of escape !!. I for one hope that with the last of his posted farewells we have, as he has threatened,heard the last from MalcolmtheMole....whilst nevertheless being in agreement with Mab...however grudgingly in this case..that the forum is a place where opinions can be shared openly and fairly !!....as you know !!. See you Saturday I hope !. |
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