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HT 1-1

Come On The REDS :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

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3-3 all over.

Sounded an unbelievable game.

Gutted :(

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Could have been our best chance to progress, but we are well capable of taking it to them at their place - Just need a juicy carrot now in tomorrow's draw.

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2 good keepers Oxfords kept em in it first half stanley coulda been 4 or5 up at half time, 6 great goals, credit must be given to Oxford wi us scoring so close to the death, heads never dropped at all, was a pity we couldn't see the game out though.:eek:

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Great cup tie ,which in part was helped by a hard bobbly surface.
Players struggled to turn,which meant end to end action.
Thought they deserved something from the goal as they were powerful in the air,and bags of pace out wide.
Thought they defended better than us,and we scored two wonder goals to give us an edge,but once against our inexperience cost us,with mistakes/poor defending.
Positives,keeper and murph did well,liddle was outstanding against a very good player.
Negatives,toto and dean were poor,and we just generally lacked pace.
They won nearly every header,and eventually got there reward.
Hope the two lads who got carried off are ok,as both were having good games.

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Rachubka, Liddle, Boco and Amond were the pick of the bunch today with Miller and Joyce average. Rest of em need to up their game and I cannot for the life of me see Toto becoming a decent CB. Peach from Molyneaux, if only the team had held out for another two minutes it would have been a worthy winner

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Mark the day....................

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:) 44mins in beaties goal wow :D Video - ITV Player

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Was a good game, especially 2nd half.

just saw the crowd, that is dire for such a potentially rewarding game! they easily brought 400, just 800 home fans for a 2nd round game. wouldnt suprise to be the lowest gate of the round....

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Thanks for the link Mab and what a strike!! :)

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248 From Oxford, all pay on the gate, in December, third game at home in a week!! Not saying it's great, but it is not that bad!! 1000 hard core - minus Wynonie :)

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Oldham's average this season 4,024, yesterday 2783

Fleetwood average 2995 yesterday 1757

Coventry average 10527 yesterday 6339

Bradford average 9795 Friday night 3620

These are just a few, so in reality Stanleys attendance held up well

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Thing is these days the F.A. Cup don't carry the same magic to many people as it used to in days of old.:eek: if thats down to economic climate i aint sure, only partly is my guess.:confused:

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If Stanley had still been non-league I reckon it would have been a higher gate, the lower down the leagues you are then the magic of the cup in the 2nd Rd proper still has it. Harrogate were a good example of that .

As an established League side it's not the same romance unless you pull a plum in the 3rd round or beyond.

Then you can factor in the economics, all pay which means even some of your season ticket holders will opt out.

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Know that occured wi some folk, once of a day, doubt if that would be a factor?:confused:

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The goals:
Accrington Stanley vs. Oxford United Video Highlights & Interviews (01st Dec 12)

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Very clear indeed that Beattie intended to shoot. He might be lucky that it flew in rather than over the roof of the stand, but it was unarguably a shot - as was Beckham's 'chip from his own half' years ago. That makes it a helluva goal, not a fluke ........ Fortunate, yes; intended, yes

Goal of the Season? It'll take some beating .............:D

KJeep the Faith! ;)

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WHAT a goal it looked from Beattie.

Defending looked awful :(

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Toto and Murphy are just not good enough as a centre back pair at this level. Individually, may do ok alongside a more experienced head. No organising going on back there on Sat

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I like toto and he's got loads of ability,and after watching the goals I felt for him.The first goal was down to the rock hard pitch IMHO,in that corner it was hard enough to keep your feet and was just done by a player with low centre of gravity.
The second,miller lost the ball and he came out to challenge the centre mid and the guy just slid totos man in,
The third ,we cleared the ball ,but Joyce was beaten by the man(hard pitch again) and the ensuing play meant toto had to race out to the corner,whichin turn sucked lads into the middle,allowing them to load the far post.
Jeg red is right,were I am sure a experienced player may not of been dragged out as easily,but he will learn from it,

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Fer me Toto gets too close to the man hes marking, therefore making it dead easy to turn him n get through, this has been bugging me fer awhile.

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Easy to blame the CBs but they were exposed by the formation. Dont like the style of play at the moment - weve not been a long ball team in a while. Hadwe have won it'd been a robbery on Oxford.

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But wouldn't it have been a nice feeling Sam !!.

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All three were great goals from Stanley for me including Craig's for the first. Should do his confidence some good. Beattie's goal was a cracker and 100% intended and therefore it was no fluke. Moly's free kick was superb and aided by Gray jumping onto the end of Oxford's defensive wall just at the right time. As Moly sent the ball on its way Gray slid out of the way to "open the gate". Those of us in the Clayton End also helped by sucking it in!!
Yes, we do have a problem defensively, particularly at centre back, but as some have noted, Toto, being a big tall lad, may have had some trouble turning on the hard icy surface. My view is that we also have a problem in midfield where I feel that we lack combativity. Since Procter left we have not had a really combative tackler who really harasses the opposition. As a result we finish up defending too deep on our own penalty box and down the throats of our full backs. I would love to see a "Procky" type of player, (or just Procky), back at Stanley or better still a "Lee Rogerson bite your legs of, (at the thighs!)" type of player in our midfield. If we score three goals at home we should WIN ...."simples.com!"
New keeper did well and I hope we can have him for as long as we need him to cover Bavs period out with the injury. A pity about Bavs as he has been simply superb this season. Hope you get back soon Ian.
I think it could be a good idea to put Deano at centre back with Toto and play Craig Linfield at right back where he was a revelation last season. This could enable Peter Murphy to be used in midfield where he might be more combative than some of the other guys there. Peter is also always likely to pop up and score a goal from a more advanced position in midfield. I think that Moly is potentially our best player for the future. His left foot is super and he can create openings out of nothing with his defence splitting passes. And of course we know that he is clearly our best free kick specialist too.
Come on you Reds!

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I think the key to good defending cashy is getting touch tight,if you try and get too close you run the risk of being rolled.Nothing wrong with touch tight,and not letting your man turn,there forcing him away from goal.
Look what Beatty did too fleetwoods defender when he got too tight!, just dummied him and left him for dead.
Hope leam works on it on the training ground,the rest will come with experience.
Think deans banned on Saturday,so I would try murph at right back and give a start to the other young centre back.
Molyneux and Linney out wide and boco up top with Beatty,

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Choirboy,can't argue with any of your comments

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Thats what i'm trying to say, Toto gets too close frequently, combined wi shocking distribution n suspect temperament, i reckon he should be omitted, needs to learn his job much better or ship out fer me.

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Hope he doesn't waste his talent cashy,but you never know what's between a players ears !!!!

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Exactly my sentiments.

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You're right, he is - 5 bookings (but it's Sunday, don't forget :D)

So is Kevin McIntyre at Coleydale! :p

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For me...the first goal was totally Toto's fault. Their lad nicked possession from right in front of where I was sat and easily brushed off Nsiala's attempts to get the ball back. Toto had an opportunity to lump the ball out of play before the situation was irretrievable but for some reason (probably known to the lad himself ) he chose not to???:confused:

As Leam said....we're a young side and learning. Mistakes are unfortunately teaching us the hard way at the moment. With a full season behind these lads, next season holds great promise ( for me at least ) IF we can keep the nucleus of the side together. Winning the replay may that goal help financially!!

The keeper had a decent game though I'm wondering how this emergency loan lark works (can we keep renewing for the next few weeks till the window re-opens in January???)

We certainly missed Atkinson's presence at the back. I did read on BBC teletext (a couple of days ago) that we are supposedly looking at making a move to sign him permanently in January??? Now he would be a good addition to the squad!

The tie is not dead, we've hopefully learned a bit from Saturday and they've lost two players to injuries and by the way Wilder was talking about them on teletext... they are key players. They've an extra game to play this midweek in the J.P.T. where they might pick up another few injuries and suspensions. And we've certainly played a lot better this season than we did on Saturday!:o

Add to that the incentive of a big game where the Blades will probably bring 2000 or so for a third round game at the Crown.....reason for hope.:o

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[QUOTE=football19;1030533]I think the key to good defending cashy is getting touch tight,

Dean must have long arms!! For me,Toto was drawn across to the full back area far too often,Rotherham's second goal as well,reasons why, I don't know enough about defending.We also get pushed back down the middle due to lack of a tackler/pace in the midfield,to get close to the opposition,could Bohan Dixon be a presence in front of the back four?

As is said you defend from the front ,so need the front 2 to close the full backs down.

Team for Sunday !! Bit experimental but something different?

Keeper
Lindfield Eckersley Murphy Liddle
Dixon
Miller Joyce

Amond Beattie Molyneux

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Good thinking, Bob. I like your idea of Murph in midfield a lot more than Football 19 having him at full back, where he reminds me of a supertanker. According to Rochdale's so called "in the knows", Proccy is set to join the Accy exiles at Spotland, along with our very own Deano!

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thats news to me redraine!!!,cant see that happening unless Acci release him.
Anyway his mum wouldnt let him anyway:).
Going back to fourth officals points on what was happening on saturday,he was very observant !!.
At the start,they played two up top and in Rigg and Potter two wingers.
The fullbacks tucked in initally,but there wingers were getting space to turn and run the fullbacks.
At one point,both teams were playing 4-2-4 !!.
To try and stop this,the fullbacks pushed up to close the space and the balls were then played into the areas left(see first goal).
Personally,i would have keep the fullbacks(mainly dean) tucked in and got linney to engage Rigg(whos a very good player).
We seem to do this effectively in the second half,but it put linney under as its hard work doing two jobs,and he run out of steam.
Thats what managers get paid for,and it nearly came off

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That's good to hear.
Wow, I wish I had your insight into systems and formations, Football, it makes me feel dizzy. Most of the time it looks like schoolboy footie to me with everyone just running after the ball! Especially when at goal kicks all 20 outfield players gather in a square of about 30x30 metres!

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not many teams "make the pitch big"(barca excluded),because if you lose possession you get punished.
Not many teams have out and out wingers as they tend to get isolated.
To be fair,Cookys footballing ideas were a bit of risk and reward,as he liked for lads to stay wide(devitt and grant spring to mind)and fullbacks pushing on,but if you dont have top, one on one defenders, you will always conceed.
Makes for good entertaining games tho :)

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You can tell he learnt his trade from Stan Ternent. Tactics = we score more than you, game won :D

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Forgot about Rommy,prob swap him for Beattie.

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Rommy on right of front three,Podge central,Moly left.