The Better Early than start at half time Burton Thread
 

I know its unusually early but thought I would start it.

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Well somebody has to Haggis.:);)

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More or like a home game this for me nowadays, only 45 minutes up the road :D

Cant wait !

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Just put me bets on and Stanley to win is one of a treble so come on!!!!

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Mingoia is in fer podge, thats difficult to weigh up.:confused: Molyneaux in fer dino ok.

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Online Commentry on BBC Derby

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Billy Kee ruddy typical 0-1

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1-0 Burton Half Time, we don't seem to have created a great deal so far.:eek:

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Cum on u reds

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Losing Beattie in the warm-up probably cost us that one ......

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Well a disappointing day in the Midlands.

My two pence worth, seeing as ive missed the last couple of games.

We must have had 60% + possession and created very little indeed. Beattie hurting himself in the warm up (calf ) was a sign of things to come. Unfortunately after him we have next to nothing else up top. Podge tries his heart out but just isnt suited to the lone striker role.

All it took was one small slip from Lindfield (again playing RB, why?) , and as we know, as much as the Ultra's love to slag him off, Billy only needs one chance.

Thought Rachubka did ok, didnt have much to do really and had no chance with the goal. Looks solid enough and hopefully we can keep him for the rest of the season.

Boco looked a class apart, however for all his effort, nothing seemed to come of it, which was a shame.

For me I cannot see the reason for leaving Hatfield on the bench for 80+ minutes, he scores 4 away at Fylde and cant seem to get a look in???? I dont get it :S.

Final point is on Joyce.......... What is he bringing to the team at the moment!?? I cannot see ANYTHING. We are trying to play him in a Bryan Hughes type creative midfielder role, when he is simply not up to it. Time for Luke Clark to get a chance????

Not far from looking over my shoulder............ :(

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Hatfield i cannot weigh this up at all, agree Smudge, apart from the 4 in cup, The guy has a fair rep fer us as a supersub from last season, Scored some vital goals when coming on, it beats the crap outa me.:confused:

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Indeed. The commentators on Radio Derby, as Podge was being subbed, said he hadn't impressed, and were a little bemused that he hadn't grabbed the chance to show what he could do after Beattie's late withdrawal gave him the opportunity.

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Sky Sports News have shown Burton's goal twice now. Kee played Toto brilliantly.

With regards to our lack of penetration, in my opinion we have looked at our best of this season when playing two forwards up top. Even without Beattie, Podge and Will would pose defenders plenty of problems together.

Any news on Beattie's injury?

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I agree 100% Shaker we look much better wi 2 up front.:confused:

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Calf muscle, will be out a week or two I should think.

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Podge hasn't played well for a long time and his goal record is about 1 in the last 12. Got to be worth trying a different combination up front and I agree we've always looked more penetrating with 2 up front

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I'm amazed that Beattie was even considered for today's game when there is an important game on Wednesday.

We dominated much of the game, especially playing against the wind in the first half. But that crucial final pass just never happened. I cannot agree with the criticism of Luke Joyce - he is at the centre of all play. Apart from an almost freak goal by Rachubka, Joyce was the only player to force a save from the Burton keeper.

The lack of strike power is a real worry. Murphy played as an extra striker in the last few minutes today. Is it time to try him there for at least an hour?

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R.Red..'If you don't score you don't win !'...this obvious maxim from the late Sir Bobby Robson rings true tonight. We can talk tactics and posession until the cows come home, but unless Leam can unveil a method which will produce enough goals to beat or equal opposing teams OR someone who knows where the net is, then the end-product could well be disastrous...sorry if I appear to be slipping into my 'writing on the wall' mode again ..but like you I feel a worry coming on !!.:(

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Good call! Perhaps he can be the new Fred Pickering, who converted by Blackburn from full back to emergency striker in the 60's and ended up scoring 168 career goals and was capped by England. Happy memories - he was dynamite!

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That would be a great bonus, if it were to occur,Personally can't see any harm in giving young Carver a run out? he may be inexperienced, but seems to know were the onion bag is.

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[QUOTE=Redraine;1031433]Good call! Perhaps he can be the new Fred Pickering, who converted by Blackburn from full back to emergency striker in the 60's and ended up scoring 168 career goals and was capped by England. Happy memories - he was dynamite![/QUOTE]

TNT ??...... OTT !!.

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Everton paid 85 grand, then sold him to Birmingham for 50 grand. From there he went to Blackpool for 45 grand, than back to briefly to Blackburn, and on to Brighton. he was a forklift truck driver after retiring from football.

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Here's a rather poignant view of the great Fred in later years....it comes to us all !!,

Everton 60's legend Fred Pickering ...... - YouTube

And there's a great 'bonus' interview with Cloughie at the end !!

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Not wishing to interrupt this nostalgia-fest about Rovers, but a quick look at some statistics makes for interesting, if concerning reading regarding scoring goals.

According to a Football League web site, in all competitions this season, Stanley's top four strikers are Boco, Amond, Joyce and Molyneaux, with Boco having 20 shots on target and 18 off. In total these four have had 55 shots on and 41 off target.
In comparison (and purely as that), Oxford Utd, one place below Stanley in the League, have four strikers who have made 87 shots on and 76 off target.

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if you don't shoot you won't score and there are no prizes for not bothering the keeper - obvious to us watching but on-field fear of failure contributes to low stats ( and goals ).

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To clarify; as a favour to our friends at Marine, young Carver is unavailable. Played and scored for Marine against Macc; sadly to no avail, therefore cuptied

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Fair enough, but this sat coming aint a cup tie.;)

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Good point, but it's the lack of quality and power of the shots that concerns me. I can't remember a single goal we have scored for ages which compares with the cannonballs that Jimmy used to fire off regularly, with the possible exception of Beattie's last amazing strike.

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We haven't been getting shots away from players inside the box with any regularity since the Symes/Grant season. Even in the play-off season a huge chunk of our goals came from outside the box. Our rejection of playing two forward players is guilty for this in my opinion. At best it helped us move the ball better from back to front, at worst it made us profligate.

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shaker totally agree we did not have a single shot from inside the box on sunday, a couple of Rommy attempts, Luke having a go and a fantastic punt from the keeper we were toothless. Surely the majority of goals do come within 18 yards but we don't seem to have that predatory instinct and consequently will struggle to win games if we can't pressurise teams, either home or away, within their own box we will not win as many as we lose or draw. Without wishing to be a tactical dinosaur 2 up front always offers more options to me

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Jings, I must even older than a dinosaur because I can remember when teams lined up with 2-3-5. 5 attackers! It seems unbelievable now. Mind you that was when pitches were so bad it took several hours to run from one end to the other and the half time refreshment was a Capstan Full Strength with your tea.

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That was proper football Exile 2 wingers 3 strikers.;)