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Who's looking forward to a trip to New York then????:confused::confused::confused:

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Frank Lampard?

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Who is Frank Lampard?;)

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I see the away fans are sent to morrison's

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Winnard and Toto BOTH suspended..................

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Typical, Toto had what i regard his best game in a Stanley shirt at Bradford, n misses next match.:rolleyes:

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I must have missed one - I only had him on 9! :o

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I think its 8 in the league 1 in the Capital Cup & 1 In the F A Cup

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Is there no Dan today?:confused:

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Shame about suspensions but it gives the three young lads a chance, Eckersley, Clark and Carver. Also another chance for Charlie to shine. Hope it works out for us. Welcome too to the on loan keeper Belford..good luck lads. Reckon Belford will save a penalty today to give us a hard earned draw!?

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the deafening silence when Dan asks "who's with me today" might clue him in that he's forgotton to post the link ! - I hope.

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Looking forward to seeing how Eckersley copes this afternoon? rate that lad.

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apologies to Dan - link posted on fishy and active ;)

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Cheers, yer not alone, i missed it as well.:o

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Brave, young XI, but glad to see Tom get his chance!!!!

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1-0 Rotherham.:(

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Just go to ground as the goal went in.

Got to say another absolutely bizarre team selection by the management

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why bizarre wi 3 suspensions?:confused:

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1-1 Lindfield...................:) sod brett.

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Accident at J33 of M1 affect people getting to the game ? Was sat in it for 1hr30mins at around 1pm

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Haha, been battered could be 4 down but Evans getting booed off by his own fans, get in!!!

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we've got to feel lucky to be 1-1 on the balance of play but it's about time the luck was on our side

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Thing is though even though Rotherham had more attempts on goal, The BBC has possession at 50/50. its more about making yer own luck to me.

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2-1 rotherham.

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3-1 oer wi.:(

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3-1

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4-1

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4-1:eek:

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Preston 0 Doncaster 3

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:(

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Ok I was a little worried before........ Now im massively worried.

Unfortunately I simply do not believe some of our lads are League 2 standard at the moment, its a simple as that. Yes we have suspensions & injuries, but make no mistake we are in the fight of our lives to stay in this league come May.

Fair play for Leam, trying to change it a little today, but for the life of me I cannot understand how Joyce is keeping his place, yet again he was almost non-existent. Barnett, Beattie, Eckersley & Clarke all looked massively slow and labored throughout the match. Young Eckersley & Barnett have hardly played and unfortunately it showed today.

The only player really to come away with any credit for me was Belford in goal, who kept the score respectable with some cracking stops, so well done to him.

Lindfield, for the 50th time, NOT a Right Back.
Liddle....... Had a shocker.
Murphy........ Clearly not fit.
Eckersley...... Rusty as box of nails.
Joyce.......... A passenger.... AGAIN.
Clarke.......... No impact
Beattie........ See Clarke
Carver......... Looked out of his depth to me.
Boco........... No impact
Barnett........ No impact.

I have no idea why Molyneux was on the bench, maybe he wasnt 100% fit??? But the introduction of him and Hatfield in the last 10 minutes at least provided some movement and quality on the ball.

What we need in my humble opinion............ Is an experienced midfielder or two, A sort of Bryan Hughes who can use his experience and take a game by the scruff of the neck. Miller, Clarke, Barnett & Joyce are simply not the answer..... Are Hatfield or Dixon the men to do it?? Who knows, until they get a start we simply wont know. 10 minutes here and there just wont do.

My team for Chesterfield.........

Belford
Winnard......Murphy......Eckersley......Molyneux
Hatfield......Dixon
Lindfield........Boco.........Chippendale
Beattie

Subs
Dawber
Joyce
Miller
Podge
Carver
Liddle
Gray

We cant do any worse!!!

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Beattie has played six games and we've won one of them, is he possibly the weak link? Granted he has scored but one was a wonder goal from nothing (that really could have gone anywhere) and one was a penalty. With the exception of the Plymouth goal it is the creation of chances that we are lacking, maybe that is where Amond came into his own? Does BT adequately bring the midfield into play?

Winnard has been a big miss this season as well. We miss him when he doesn't play and we miss him when he does, he hasn't seemed the same player this season. Is his mind elsewhere? Does his injury play on his mind? At least three times this season opposition forums have described as the worst they have seen ...

Winnard, Murphy and Joyce have failed to hit anything like the form of last season.

Boco, big player for us and difficult to leave out but he has played every game bar the JPT against Morecambe (week after signing) - maybe could do with half a game off now and then?

We concede far too many goals from wing play, no protection from the midfield? Pointless playing five in midfield when we're getting battered down the outside.

Relegation? We'll be reet enough, some crap sides on their way this month so hopefully we can get halfway to the rest of the points we need.

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Dawber (give him the chance and put the borrowed player on the bench)

Murphy ... Eckerslike ... Winnard (had his best season playing on his left foot)


Linda ... Boco of trickso ... Miller ... Chippenflick

Ammo ... BT .... 50 shades of Gray


Paul Fook will be expecting the usual formation so I'd give owd Cock'ead summat to think about and just go for his jugular right from the off. At least 3 of that starting line up weren't rated by the 3accented one and at least 3 more will be hoping for the phone call off him next week and will be playing for a new contract (they hope).

I'm only playing 3 at the back as well, no point playing with full backs as they've done rock all most of this season.

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You only have 10 players!

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Missed the game today,but the result was half expected.We are really short of experience at the moment,and smudge makes some good points
Other teams have worked us out,which is a worry.
Regarding dean,he is desperate to get fit and his head is certainly not elsewhere,he's played through injuries for over 18 months,and is slowly getting there.
Ps keep the faith,and back the team !!!

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When times get tough, we need to keep clear, cool heads and times are looking tough for us. One or two new faces to be introduced in next week/10 days may give things a different perspective

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Only going off what I have seen this season in terms of games attended, but will say it again. This group of players and possibly the manager are not good enough to keep us in this league.

Slate me if you want, but people keep talking about January, but we ain't got the money for anyone decent or the wages for anyone decent.

Very, very worried, but very, very honest.

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Not slating but think thats absolute rubbish we will stay in Div2 this season without doubt to me,As fer Jan it don't matter when, we will never have the money, its about the right type of player we can nab, always will be, fer people to slate a bunch of kids n a new manager who beattie apart has had no influence of who's in the squad is rank poor to me.:rolleyes:

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Like I said cashy, not slating anyone. Just stating a fact that this group of players and possibly the manager are not good enough to keep us in this division.

Whether they are young or inexperienced is not my point . Just saying that as a unit, they are not enough.

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Thats your opinion it aint mine. n i will would put any amount on the fact we will not go out this season.

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Just hope you're right cashy. ;)

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From what I have seen this season we wont go down, but wont be far off.

For me Beattie is like McConville - adds nout to the teamplay, looks absolutely uselss but then pops up with a goal. I'd rather have him than Podge who is the opposite in that he looks busy but produces nout.

As for Leam as a manager I think he will prove himself in January - it depends on his contacts to get the players in and the style of football he wishes to play.

At the moment he has a squad of Coley snd Cooky's men and the style Leam wishs to impose is in contrast to his predecessors.

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Why all the pessimism? Stanley is not the Man. Utd. of league 2,
we don’t expect to win every game,
the injuries & suspensions have culminated in a bad run of form but I have faith in Leam turning this situation round

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These are young lads learning the ropes- look at the starting line-up today- I dont know exactly but 6 or 7 aged 21 or under? It's an absolute baptism of fire for Leam and we should absolutely get behind him , the staff and the team. Suspensions do not help one bit. The options aren't limitless...
But this is Accrington Stanley-look around you gentlefolk- O' Driscoll, Berg, Mellon...give Leam a chance!!! What's going on in the poisonous world of 'bigclub' football is shameful - We should be setting an example to these clubs and getting right behind our players and staff.
In my view the lads need to keep the ball much better than they are doing-and for longer, something (largely) the same players were doing better earlier in the season.
They need to get a psychologist working on their collective resilience. I felt very sad for them after a massive effort against Bradford trooping back to the spot after Bradford's late winner- their body language spoke volumes. Notwithstanding the inexperience in the team and the management, I feel much more attention needs to be paid than it is to their mental toughness- there seems to be a lot taken for granted out there-perhaps too much on all our parts- so get behind these lads and Leam. He comes accross as deeply committed to the cause- help him-he's earned our support.
If he keeps us up- he'll have done great in my book. Then we can start again.
Two big games coming up- but remember- it will NOT be the end of the world if we lose both- and we must get behind this lot and set an example.

And Happy New Year to one and all from Nirvana

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What a load of tripe !!! To even suggest that the downturn in form is linked with Beattie is incredible !!! :eek:

We're lacking experience. To suggest that by having a former international, who has played in the highest league in the land, who still has miles left on the clock is the weakest link??? Barmy !!! What about the glaring shortfalls we've got in other departments!!! Let's not forget Beattie might not yet be fully fit????:confused:

For me, we've gone downhill recently since Bavs got injured and the lad from Fleetwood went back. It's plainly obvious that we lack a bit of steel in certain departments. We're also lacking firepower.... and whilst Amond does get the goals now and then....he's hardly prolific!!:o

To me, I've got faith in Leam to turn this round and steer us clear from the drop zone. That said, I feel we need to strengthen down the spine of the side.

A quality centre half, a decent central midfielder and another forward (or two ) to give us the goals we'll need to get clear of the mire !!

If Hughes is still unattached and twiddling his thumbs, he'd be one of the first i'd be calling to see if he fancies the fight.... that....make no mistake...is one to get away from trouble and away from the drop zone.:(

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Agreed 100% carpon.

I think Macca had drunk too many cherries last night somehow.!

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Whilst I was disappointed with the result yesterday, I thought about the potential for relegation and whilst Leam is young and very willing to learn, perhaps we should go out and get him a proper right hand man who knows the League 1 and 2 ropes to assist him. After seeing the goings on at the chicken farmers gaff and Fleetwood, then to rid ourselves of a promising young manager in the making would be a mistake. What about the likes of Keith Hill? Also with regards to the transfer window in January, yes get Bryan Hughes back (if he will come back) and the lad from Fleetwood, if he is available. Fer me, lets get experience mixed with youth and meld the team into an attacking unit (attack after all is the best form of defence). Some say that we will be alright this season, I am not so sure. It is a worrying trend we have at the moment. Even the guess the score punters are now predicting loss after loss. I am hoping however, that the team will see the enormity of the Chesterfield match and shove one in the eye of the renegade that is Paul Cook. Coley's motto used to be 'keep the faith', however, I do not see too much faith on this thread!

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Forget the Fleetwood lad outback, much as i would love him back,from what i heard hes now a regular yon n been made captain.

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Pity there isn't a do not like button. Didn't know this Cashy, thanks for enlightening me.

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Talking of 'Captains' Cashy, I still maintain that at the present moment we have a Midfielder who runs around mostly to little effect wearing the Captain's armband !...and what the Reds don;t have, and badly need is a real leader on the pitch, then perhaps we wouldn't see the slumped shoulders, the accusing looks when a goal is conceded, and the loss of spirit in moments of adversity.
The comment from The Red Darreners regarding the obtaining of the services of a Psychologist should not be dismissed from the equation either !.....
See you on Tuesday !...

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Just to keep it simply we are shocking. Team selections , formation , no plan b , no fight , a captain who can't be bothered, no inspiration , no battling ! After seeing 99.9% of away and home games this season our manager as bad as I hate saying it is just not good enough ! Unfortunately I'd rather have Liam go and get an experienced manager quick to get us out of this!! Forget being nicey nice , we could be going down this season so something has to be done! Either keep Liam and giving some money for some wages for some decent players for half a season or get someone in who can reunite the players and get them playing again !!! And there's clearly something wrong in the camp as you can tell with how the players are even when they come out the tunnel !

Also another note. If Joyce stays as captain then we will certain to be going down!! He is nowhere near a captain! Doesn't get the players going , doesn't play well himself and show them how it's done , no fight , no passion ! Everytime they scored yesterday he didn't once say anything to anyone!

Another waste of hard earned money going to watch stanley!

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Sod all to do wi being nicey nice,its about giving the guy chance re the jan window, to put his own mark on the side, there obviously won't be money available to any great degree, agree we need a captain that would be obvious to Stevie Wonder,

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We really need to calm down ! ,I mentioned a few months ago, that no matter how good a young player is,they always go through a bit of a slump,and its how they react as to how far they will go in the game.
Looking at yesterday's team, I suspect it's the next two games were the ones being targeted for a points return.
The team is good enough,results eg fleetwood prove this,it's just a matter of regaining some form and a little luck.
A few additions and injuries clearing up will see us alright.

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For what it's worth here's my two Penneth worth:

I think there are lots of reasons for our current run of bad form, but unfortunately I think it's primarily down to the management.

Team selection: I don't think the current management know what is there best team or even the best system to use. To gamble on bringing in untried (and by the looks of it nowhere near ready) players like Clark, Dixon & Carver is ridiculous.
Substitutions: Leam generally only seems to make changes when they are forced upon him or the game is gone, and then some of the actual substitutions defy belief.
Tactics: Since Beattie has arrived we seem to hump it towards him at every opportunity, but unfortunately he doesn't win many headers these days (however I do think he looks dangerous in the box so worth persevering with)

I think Leam should had brought in an experienced number 2 instead of Paul Stephenson because they're both inexperienced and seem to panic when things are going wrong rather than being the steadying influence they need to be. Incidentally this current bad run started around the time the new assistant and Beattie arrived and we started playing like Wimbledon 1986

My team for Chesterfield:
A Keeper
Linfield Winnard Murphy Liddle
Bocco Miller Joyce Molyneux
Gray
Beattie

Subs: Dawber Chippendale Podge Eckersly Hatfield Barnett Dixon


On a positive note all bad runs come to an end and wouldn't it be perfect if it ended on Tuesday against he who shall not be named

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Technically he already has one with League One management experience ;)

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Must disagree Frank, I don't mind calling a SNAKE a SNAKE.:D;)

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I think you mean Paul Lodge, who is actually 1st team coach and was already there before Leam took over

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To be fair, Beattie has always been a scorer of great goals but not really a great goal scorer.That's why we should be working hard for clean sheets,which will come when our form returns and injuries clear up

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No I don't actually

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Yeah you're right, New Years Snake! :-)

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Must add my opinion on this topic we all know the team is young and inexperienced and so his Leam he,s going to make mistakes even with better older players. I personally think we have struggled all season especially at home this must be laid at Cook,s short reign 1 goalie signed on why back 4 all inexperienced no recogniseable right back centre halves both with no left foot smallest left back in the league daft appointment as skipper, but I remember Cook saying it did,nt matter who was captain it was,nt important. Leam as had to work with this and you got to let him have a go in the January window and hope it turns things around but to say get rid now is just stupid like the venkys.

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I asked a legitimate question, I've only seen 3 of the games that BT has played in and I'm a ball watcher rather than a game watcher. My question is valid and still remains, does he or does he not involve the midfield positively? Subsequent posters suggest that 'we' are playng more hoofball with him up front, therefore the midfield are bypassed and redundant. Therefore 'he' becomes the weak link. It doesn't matter whether you or I think he's crap or otherwise (which isn't what I said), if our play is affected by him being on the pitch then I'd sooner play with someone we can pass the ball around with.

This Barca-esque formation that we persevere with only worked for the personnel we had two and a half years ago ... we aint got a Procter or a Ryan or a fit Craney or a Gornell or even a PrimarkConville to play that brand of football with. Only Boco could dream of slotting into that midfield.

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Personally macca i think its sod all to do wi BT, our midfield is virtually non-existent at the moment, Boco is virtually on his own, we got no ball winner or captain type figure n thats were its at to me, Hoping fer a couple of experienced guys n a new captain in the window. fer me thats all the kids need.

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So who is Paul Stephenson and when was he appointed ? Have to admit I've totally missed it, but then again I don't take as much interest as I used to :D

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COACHING STAFF
Manager: Leam Richardson
First Team Coach: Paul Lodge
Player/Coach: James Beattie
Physio: Les Parry
Club Doctor: Dr. Joyce Watson
Kitman: Naz Ali
Academy Manager: Stuart Delaney
Les has a wealth of experience behind him in managment and no dout Leam will be tapping in to it .. :)

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Surely I'm not the only person to notice this bloke, i thought i must have missed the announcement, I recognised him from his time at Huddersfield

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So thats his name !! theres afew of us who sit next to the dugout, who dont know who he is:o Speaks with a bit of a north east accent,think he helped Leam out first time rd before PC arrived..

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transparency by the club then ?

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He's a young looking 51.

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Les's last game tomorrow. Off to a little club down the road :D

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Burnley ??;)

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No, it's a swap/cash deal for Fergie :)

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So not Venkys' New man then?

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Nope he's off to Man Utd

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Joined stanleys coaching staff just before Fleetwood Town away http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_St...on_(footballer)

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Where does his Wikipedia page say that?

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Doubt if it does, i couldn't find owt either.

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It's his birthday today according to that........

Happy Birthday Paul :D

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"who are ya, who are ya?"

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How do you know they are ewe's ? :D

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Wikipedia rely on you me or anyone else to update the data once you've registered, you just login and update:)

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Wouldn't register on any site like that, just not my bag.

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:) Snap cashy :)