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The balance of players wages not paid so far this month will be paid in full tomorrow. I will ensure it happens.

I understand from the club this is, as Rob says, a temporary cash flow management issue.

Turning to the people on this board and in the town, our focus and our energy must be towards the team and their fight to ensure survival. we all have a part to play - by supporting the team. lets try to get as many of our friends and family to the ground on Saturday to support the boys and to support the Club.

Think of my donation (no strings attached, my contribution to the salaries is simply a donation and not a loan or anything else) as my way to help put GOOD ENERGY into the club and for us all to step up and proclaim our loyalty to the town and the club we love so much. Everyone at the club, from the Chairman and all directors down to the players needs our support.

Ilyas

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Shame you have had to do this Ilyas! Superb gesture!

See you on the Clayton End saturday then!!

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Once again ta very much.;)

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Brilliant news, cheers Ilyas - hope you can make it to the game Saturday to help us cheer the lads on

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A sincere thank you Ilyas - There isn't a club that has a greater supporter than you.

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Thankyou Ilyas we appreciate all you do for the club. I personally was beginning to fear the worst happening again. You truly are a friend to the club and supporters. Please try and attend on Saturday to give your moral support.

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What would we do without you.

Arise Sir Ilyas

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hi there. thanks for the comment, but honestly, i think all just need to get the crowd out for the game on saturday. having these small crowds really has been a big issue for the new board. but thankyou for your generous comments. i am just my little bit for the town and club i love so much

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One Word - Legend.

Thank you Ilyas

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Absolutely agree

Without you, we'd have gone under long ago .............

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Sir Ilyas of Accrington

Thank You.

:alright:

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What a man!

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Ilyas our star shines again. Most grateful for this extremely generous gesture .Thank you

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to be honest I'm annoyed by this whole thing. Yesterday teatime we all trundled along blissfully unaware of any problem then BANG, we're skint again and can't afford to pay the players.

Ilyas, your generosity once again prevails ... but how has this come about? Fan directors and a board bigger than the United Nations is supposed to ensure that nothing sneaks up on us no?
Did this really need to be aired?
Can the club approach you directly for help rather than the whole world knowing our failings?
Was this meant as a pre six-pointer double header rallying call? If so it was in extremely poor taste as I don't exactly feel ready to roll up me sleeves for a trench war against relegation.

I sincerely hope this really is just a one-off cash flow problem because I feel that nobody would back another SOS.
If this problem is synonymous with deeper problems then buds need nipping. Let's show some honesty and transparency and tell the people that the club simply cannot function at Football League level and that relegation or not we will seek to play at a level we can afford. Nobody wants to relinquish FL status but if its going to potentially cost us the club every season then bite the bullet and drop down. All those fools who refuse that notion can ****** off and leave me to stand with the other 299 who used to brave the Unibond

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what gets me now is why are we paying 29 players ?

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A true knight in shining armour

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Thank you Ilyas, it is gratifying to know that you have our back and the interest of the club at heart. There are no two ways about it; there wouldn't be a Stanley without your support and generosity.

I am very much with Rob on his comments; did the world need to know; nether the players or the staff had leaked this information, if it frightens us then I'm sure potential sponsors/investors would equally be concerned; if not potential creditors; Last thing we need is a debt gallop.

We have a lot to be proud of, both in your support and the history of our club; we all get over excited and have a rant t these times but has you, Rob and others have said lets put that energy to the positive and get behind the team for this final push.

That said; I am a bit surprised that the club isn't pursuing a campaign to build support for a country wide fight against relegation.

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IK !!..Just to add my gratitude and regards to you for your concern.... Hope that your vision of increased and better support on Saturday and in the future becomes a reality !!.

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No town on God's Earth has produced a more beneficent son than Ilyas. This financial deliverance should redouble the determination of the Townspeople and the players to hang onto the Club's precious beyond words and hard earned League Status.

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Iylas,
as previously stated, thanks for your help.

Observation - how can the club help the attendances to increase if the qualiy of the football under this manager continues to decrease?

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Who is Dav007?
Will he/she identify themselves on Saturday so we can put a face to all these negative posts??

Gerard/KiTChener

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Many thanks to Ilyas helping the club out of a sticky patch again. Lets hope this is a mere blip, I wouldn't think it is fair to expect Ilyas to keep bailing us out.

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if anyone is fed up of reading the same post on every thread then visit you own profile page (click your name on any post or accy web main page, visitors today) ... find 'my profile' (yours not mine ;)) and you'll find 'edit ignore list' in the control panel halfway down the left hand side. Type Dav007 in and hit return. You'll no longer see his posts then.

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Aye but yeh will if someone quotes him, it aint foilproof.:eek:

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Dav, your views on Leam's managerial ability are well documented and shared by many others. However, many others also think Leam is doing a good job in the circumstances.

Looking at things pragmatically, it's unlikely the board will or can replace him (we've a cash flow problem).

You do make some great points, but maintaining the anti Leam line will further alienate you and folk won't even bother to read your other worthwhile contributions.

We all understand your views on Leam and they're unlikely to change, which is your prerogative. Keep contributing to the forum positively and leave your views on Leam silent.

It won't change the way you feel on the subject, but will help your inputs on other matters be more readily accepted.

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Did that some years ago, cos I was fed up with some guy from Whalley, also someone called Adam ( Cottier??)
Didn't work! Still had to read their forwarded posts!!
Gerard

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Which should be obvious to all but the mentally challenged, fer all the good Coley @ Jimmy did which was a magnificent effort given our circumstances, The wages they were on had a contributary factor to our near demise the other year, Cos those running the show turned a blind eye to cold hard reality. we have had to cut our cloth accordingly, like it or not. The only sensible thing to me,is to get behind Leam @ the boys.Not rocket science really.

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Cashman,
I fully support Leam and all the players for the 90 minutes, but if the football and results are sub-standard such as Tuesday night, I have as much right as anyone to share my frustrations.

Peter Marsden's comments point towards the board supporting Leam despite the awful results; at the end of the season their decision may seem wise, lucky or foolish.
I for one more than anyone else, hope its the right decision.
I may not like supporting a manager who hasnt delivered, but I have not got much choice.

I really hope Leam proves me and many others wrong, I really do.

There would be no greater meal for me on the 27th April than humble pie.
I would even go as far as buying some of you a pint if we stay up.
And I hope it starts with 3 points vs Barnet.

It is Leam's time to shine, if he truelly believes he is football league manager, then he must begin to show it on Saturday.

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See Davo, yeh highlighted me post n ignored the main point of it.:confused: Would that be cos yeh can't accept it? No-one wants us to lose our league status, we all know were punching above our weight though.

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Because it was not their fault. They where the managers of the football team, not the clubs finances.
Like any employee, you want to be paid well, and you want the best tools to do your job to help you succeed.
You have an agenda.

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Dav, I accept you are entitled to your views, as much as anybody else, but do you really feel you have to be so negative?
I came away from Tuesday night's game, & spent almost two hours, drafting a wholly negative post, not only about the players, but also how I believe the Club is P'ing on the lifeblood of the Club, the season ticket holders.
My wife read my draft, & persuaded me to 'sleep on it'. Day after, I didn't send it.
Do you have anyone to advise you similarly?
It seems not.

Gerard

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Everybody starts somewhere, even Coley and Jimmy many winter ago and I've questioned Leam ability to move us forward but with current finances we have to hold our nerve and get behind the club. Little has been said about Peter's post on the fishy site tonight, it takes balls to say you cocked up and he's done that and he's asked us to get behind Leam and the boys, He's also said that relegation is a non option. Now is the time to put away our gripes and toys and get behind Accrington Stanley. That means the Board, Leam, The guys on the park and us the supporters. The Club and the Team needs us and we need them. Lets get the season over with and ensure we stay up and then we can start working towards next season.

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I know this is late, but thank you Ilyas Khan and all that you have done for Stanley...It's much appreciated. Like the rest of us Stanley fans on here, it would be an honour to have you in the Clayton End on Saturday if you can make it!

COME ON STANLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Bleedin interesting reading and everyone pulling the same way, for the club to survive and avoid relegation, just some phrasing it differently. As someone who can't be there but has to watch from afar and listen to the reports from you "on site" supporters, here is my problem- regardless who is selected to play, it seems like the players are not giving 110%. As someone who wore a Stanley shirt I can honestly say I would rather have tried to run through a brick wall {and it sometimes seemed like I did** than let Stanley down. I think some of the frustration being aimed at Leam should be born by the players. If you give 110% you're part of the solution, 90% and you're part of the problem. Let the players know you are behind them and let them, and Leam, know what you expect.

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Ilyas, can you confirm that this offer is not a loan to the club?

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Can somebody please explain to the people of Accrington why 18 good souls paid £10k each to join the board?

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Redskin, This is what Ilyas said.


"Think of my donation (no strings attached, my contribution to the salaries is simply a donation and not a loan or anything else) as my way to help put GOOD ENERGY into the club and for us all to step up and proclaim our loyalty to the town and the club we love so much. Everyone at the club, from the Chairman and all directors down to the players needs our support.

Ilyas"

Seem straight forward.

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Just asking for clarification, I saw the original post but I'm confused by the need for the statement. If its a donation then that's great news!!!

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A liitle insight into Mr Coleman.On signing a full back for Rochdale,from Stanley,knowing what said full backs wages were,he doubled them at Rochdale!!

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Have you never given it a thought, after everything has been said that Stanley at this present time just couldn't afford to change management, especially bringing Coleman and Bell, there is no guarantee results would alter anyway, but one thing is for sure it could cause untold financial damage to the club which could turn terminal, nobody wants that

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The man is a complete and utter nugget he jumps every thread and tries to spread his poison RE Leam, he never answers a question just bleats continually how messers Coleman and Bell could get us out of this. DAV007 it,s time to start singing from a different hymn sheet or clear off and support someone else, I,m fed up of making allowance,s that everybody is allowed their opinion yer times up mate :mad::mad:

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Please expand on your comments, I find them to .
be factually incorrect.
Because you do not like the answers, does not mean the questions have not been answered.

I rate Coleman & Bell, get over it

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Dav 007 , I may not agree with what you have to say , but you do have a right to say it. Now answering questions. Who are you ? simple enough question but yet you avoid answering. You may use this forum as a smoke screen , but if you enlighten us as to who you are , we can then all put a face to your name.
There will be a slice of humble pie for you at the end of season.

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This demonstrates to everyone exactly what yeh are,:rolleyes: No-one has said it was there fault, as yeh well know, yer just evading the issue cos yer incapable of answering it? rather pathetic in my book.:rolleyes:

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DAVOO7 I to rate JC&JB but i have now asked you several times to clarify what makes you think they are the answer and what you think they could do with the present squad, also taking into account that this thread is about our funds crisis how are we to finance it,remember and i will state it again THEY WALKED AWAY why on earth would they want to come back and if you say loyalty all I will say is what a load of bull,anyway you have managed as usual to wind me and several others up with your incessant whining i have decided to give up even trying to get anything even nearing an answer out of ya but if you would like to carry the banter on face to face on the clayton end i will be there tuesday night level with the edge of the penelty box on the whinney hill side of goal but i suspect i will be there alone as you like to hide behind your user name.

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well if you want to stand on your own, i will find someone else to stand with lol;)

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Threats, interesting.

As recently as Wednesday, if you would care to read, I summarised why Coleman is the answer.
Here it is again.

John Coleman is mr. Accrington Stanley. He would do anything for the club and would give 110% to turn it around. He has the experience, the tactics and most importantly the track record of making Accrington Stanley successful.
And he is available.

I have detailed many times why Coleman is the right man.
I have no doubt Coleman would keep us from the drop.

You seem obsessed with continuing the argument about Leams suitability, I am will continue to support Leam as he is still the manager, my support has increased because Peter Marsden's statement suggested they where sticking with him.
The facts and public opinion may be against Leam, but if the board arent going to change the situation we have no choice but to get behind the manager.

But as your so keen for the discussion to continue, I leave you with one simple question.
How many games have we won since Leam was made permanent manager?
The facts speak for themselves.

Now get behind the team.

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But I havent?
Please expand.
Whart is your agenda?

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And?

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Now this is a good point, and relevant given the recent revelations over wages.
Its something to explore, and its something for the owners to decide if the sting of paying Leam up, is easier to bear than the long decay of the non league.

Im not saying non league will kill the club, on the contrary. But the league is the place to be.

There is also Leam himself who must look in the mirror and accept the results show he is not upto the job.
You would hope knowing the clubs financial situation and the potentially he is only in a job by default (they cant afford to get rid of him), that he would do the right thing and walk.
But he does have bills like anyone else, the board are the real culprits for the contract Leam recieved.

If we do go down, its Leams making. It will be on his record forever. It will be very hard for him to get another football league job ever again.

Lets all hope the board have got it right about supporting Leam, that Leam improves and the results drastically improve.

Its Leams time to prove himself. There are no excuses.

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Can the club afford to sack Leam??? Can the club afford to pay two extra wages at a time we can't afford to pay the one's were already liable for ??? Will Coleman & Bell work for nothing ??

I think you'll find the answer to all three questions is a big fat resounding

"NO".......


. So get over it and start practising what you're trying to preach with this statement. Stop sounding off like a scratched record.

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Well that's that sorted, everything will be fine, if you pay the money to pay up Leams contract and pay the new managers wages, unfortunately there won't be a club to play in any league next season if the club have to find the money, but with your help everything will be hunky-dory ;)

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I dont think the answer is no, and if you read my recent post I discussed the issues.

thank you.

and nice use of text size and colour

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This guy lives in his own dream world carpon

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Actually JC is an excellent motivator and moral builder, that is why he was so successful at Stanley.

JC makes Kevin Keegan look like Howard Wilkinson, when it comes to tactics.:rolleyes:

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Is Stanley staying in the fotball league a dream?
Maybe to you, to me its something we can continue to achiEve.

Any more insults?

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Are you Sean McConville???

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Don,t be so dramatic I ,m not threatening anyone i was offering the opportunity to have a proper discusion about something which is obviously close to both our hearts and that offer remains open.
Now can you please explain to me why if coleman is mr accrington stanley why did he go to manage rochdale oh i know because it,s all about money which is actually the thread topic an we ain,t got none unless of course Leam is willing to step aside without any compo and coleman will work for next to nowt "wake up and smell the coffee"

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If you think that's an insult you ain't been around AW very long have you:rolleyes:

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:stupid:

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:enough: :dummy2: is :enough:

This thread is decomposing at an alarming rate !!