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Revived Red 15-07-2013 20:11

Greatest manager
 
I see that the official website is giving information about a Football League competition to find the greatest manager/player etc from each club. ASFC wants us to tweet a suggested name. Not much good for old fogies like me who don't use twitter (or Facebook for that matter). The danger of tweeting the names is that it will favour more recent incumbents whereas those of us who remember Walter Galbraith, for example, would seem to be disadvantaged.

DAV007 15-07-2013 20:48

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http://www.chesterfieldpost.co.uk/sp...cook_signs.jpg

EASY CHOICE

cashman 15-07-2013 20:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1066925)
I see that the official website is giving information about a Football League competition to find the greatest manager/player etc from each club. ASFC wants us to tweet a suggested name. Not much good for old fogies like me who don't use twitter (or Facebook for that matter). The danger of tweeting the names is that it will favour more recent incumbents whereas those of us who remember Walter Galbraith, for example, would seem to be disadvantaged.

I agree entirely,to me Twitter gives a distinct advantage to more recent managers in my view, many older fans do not use it.:(

maccawozzagod 15-07-2013 21:09

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Put them on here and I'll sweet them for you if you like.

Dan 16-07-2013 06:29

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Just to let you know this is a Football League initiative so they've set that it's a Twitter thing not ASFC - the only nomination so far by the way is Walter Galbraith...

smobile 16-07-2013 06:48

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Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1066930)

You have confused the word Greatest with Greediest Dave :D

cashman 16-07-2013 06:53

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Originally Posted by Dan (Post 1066953)
Just to let you know this is a Football League initiative so they've set that it's a Twitter thing not ASFC - the only nomination so far by the way is Walter Galbraith...

Well aware its a F.L. job Dan, like the F.A. they have always been useless.;)

Redraine 16-07-2013 10:45

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OK Macca, since I can't be doing with all this Twitter/Facebook rubbish, please give 'em my choice of Coley, by a country mile. OK, Walter Galbraith was a legend, but he operated on a level playing field financially, compared with the miraculous results that JC achieved on a shoestring.

maccawozzagod 16-07-2013 10:55

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Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 1066979)
OK Macca, since I can't be doing with all this Twitter/Facebook rubbish, please give 'em my choice of Coley, by a country mile. OK, Walter Galbraith was a legend, but he operated on a level playing field financially, compared with the miraculous results that JC achieved on a shoestring.


exactly what I said when I tweeted mine in yesterday, will do it now for you

maccawozzagod 16-07-2013 11:03

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... and Coleman takes the lead ;)

Revived Red 16-07-2013 11:54

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And I'll go with the name I mentioned - Walter Galbraith!

smobile 16-07-2013 12:01

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Galbraith for me too - All Accrington managers have worked on a Shoe-string.

cashman 16-07-2013 12:12

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I voted Walter Galbraith.:) even if it meant joining sodding twitter.:D

smobile 16-07-2013 12:42

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You on Twitter Cashy ? :eek:

cashman 16-07-2013 12:56

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Originally Posted by smobile (Post 1067004)
You on Twitter Cashy ? :eek:

only fer a short while.;) cos i'm a right tw*t:D

Exile on Spencer St 16-07-2013 13:02

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1067007)
only fer a short while.;) cos i'm a right tw*t:D


Cashers, can you twitter Walter Galbraith for me cos I'm a left t*it.

cashman 16-07-2013 14:47

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Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1067008)
Cashers, can you twitter Walter Galbraith for me cos I'm a left t*it.

Not sure how it works mate? may want yer name? Macca will know i think?:confused: if i can i certainly will, Think ive done it.

sausage butty 16-07-2013 18:53

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As a 23 year old it has to be coleman.the budget he had to work with . The promotions. Having a beer with the lads... Top bloke and top manager.

maccawozzagod 16-07-2013 19:57

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1066996)
And I'll go with the name I mentioned - Walter Galbraith!

tweeted it for you RR

Alvin the chipmunk 16-07-2013 20:02

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Galbraith did miraculous things. However we are talking about a time in which 5 up front was common and the likes of New Brighton and Bradford Park Avenue could compete in the Football League. A halcyon time when good management was all you needed to succeed.

Plus regionalisation made it easier to stretch such resources.

Quite simply John Coleman was Mr Accrington Stanley, having been there longer than 60% of the fan base.

When I was a school boy I would get bullied for supporting the Reds, made worse by some of the shocking teams we were putting out. If you'd said we'd be in the Football League, be dissapointed with 1000+ gates and play the likes of Fulham and Newcastle....they'd have taken you away in a white coat.

I think you have to think about what Coley would have done with 10,000 gates.

Radcliffe....Farsley.....Woking....Alty. Its frightening to think how many electric moments in my life I owe to this man.

From Bradford PA to Bradford City....from Frickley to Fulham. Quite simply what JC did for this club and this apathetic town...will never be surpassed. He has laid the groundwork for JB to build on. Let's hope I can copy and paste this speech one day with JB's name in. :)

Clearviewsimon 16-07-2013 20:10

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For me it's gotta be Coley also. I'd like to follow Alvin's post, but how can I follow it?
It's a great post that puts a big warming smile on my dish, just like the Torquay weekender a couple of seasons back.

Post mine up will ya Rob?

BTW, giz a text or email me, I need to speak to ya about something I've got on this week bud.

nige b 16-07-2013 23:01

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1067019)
Not sure how it works mate? may want yer name? Macca will know i think?:confused: if i can i certainly will, Think ive done it.

Get yerself on Cashy me and Ange will certainly follow you :)

maccawozzagod 17-07-2013 03:04

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Originally Posted by Clearviewsimon (Post 1067076)
For me it's gotta be Coley also. I'd like to follow Alvin's post, but how can I follow it?
It's a great post that puts a big warming smile on my dish, just like the Torquay weekender a couple of seasons back.

Post mine up will ya Rob?

BTW, giz a text or email me, I need to speak to ya about something I've got on this week bud.

will do bud

ossy kid 18-07-2013 06:53

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No doubt in my mind Walter Galbraith.

Aussie Irene 18-07-2013 08:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alvin the chipmunk (Post 1067075)
Galbraith did miraculous things. However we are talking about a time in which 5 up front was common and the likes of New Brighton and Bradford Park Avenue could compete in the Football League. A halcyon time when good management was all you needed to succeed.

Plus regionalisation made it easier to stretch such resources.

Quite simply John Coleman was Mr Accrington Stanley, having been there longer than 60% of the fan base.

When I was a school boy I would get bullied for supporting the Reds, made worse by some of the shocking teams we were putting out. If you'd said we'd be in the Football League, be dissapointed with 1000+ gates and play the likes of Fulham and Newcastle....they'd have taken you away in a white coat.

I think you have to think about what Coley would have done with 10,000 gates.

Radcliffe....Farsley.....Woking....Alty. Its frightening to think how many electric moments in my life I owe to this man.

From Bradford PA to Bradford City....from Frickley to Fulham. Quite simply what JC did for this club and this apathetic town...will never be surpassed. He has laid the groundwork for JB to build on. Let's hope I can copy and paste this speech one day with JB's name in. :)

My husband says Stanley were not getting 10,000 gates when Galbraith took over more like 2000.The success of his team got the gates up to that level. His team was also put together on a shoestring.

maccawozzagod 18-07-2013 14:52

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Originally Posted by Aussie Irene (Post 1067239)
Galbraith ... his team was also put together on a shoestring.

I love era based debates, just like a good joke the old ones are always the best :rolleyes:

Both have their admirable qualities but my decision to take Coleman over Galbraith was based on the fact that the money gap between the top and the bottom of the league has never been greater than it is today. Back when Galbraith first took the reigns the abolition of the wage cap was still eight years away so the assumption of the younger 'voters' is that the playing field was leveller.

It is also true to say that Galbraith improved the gates. Under Walter Crook, the season before Galbraith, the average gate was 5761 (went down to 5513 after his resignation) he improved it to 7376, 9820, 8510, 9300 and 7503. The following season, under Hubbick and then Eastham, the gates dropped to 6774 again - although this can partly be attributed to de-regionalisation of the League.

But by the same token when John Coleman came we were playing the likes of Matlock and Lincoln United in front of gates less than 300 some times. When he left we were playing the likes of Oxford, Bradford and Port Vale in front of home crowds exceeding 3000 on occasion. I haven't got the averages in front of me to give a percentage increase but I've an inkling that Coley increased the crowds by a higher percent than Mr G ;)

It's an argument that can't be won to be honest. But those that remember when the world WAS black and white will tell you that Tom Selleck's body double was the greatest, and those of who were brought up in glorious technicolour will tell you that Coley was the greatest.

I think the Magnum fella was better dressed though :eek:

DAV007 18-07-2013 17:04

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No votes for Leam?

Revived Red 09-08-2013 15:19

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And the result is/was??:confused: Or have I missed it??:confused:


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