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Well I want to forget about this episode this morning. So as JB and the players are so im focusing on Saturday.

Who would be your XI ???

Who replaces Hunt & Webber???

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Unfortunate to lose Hunt & Webber (even thouh I think Webber has struggled so far - sure will come good). I think Hatfield has struggled all season (I'm incl pre-season) so would give him a rest also. Think both Aldred and Atkinson have looked better when thet've played alongside Winnard.

My team would be:

Bav

Aldred Winnard Atkinson Wilson

Joyce Murphy

McCarten Gray Mingoia

Naismith

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Dino @ Carver in those 2 berths fer me.:)

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I'd like to see Luke Clark and Laurence Wilson as advancing full-backs. Dean Winnard and Tom Aldred to partner at centre-half - for some reason it isn't working with Rob Atkinson alongside Aldred. Midfield - Murphy, Miller and Joyce. Naismith as the main centre-forward with Hatfield and McCartan running on.

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Bav’s, Winard, Atkinson, Aldred, Wilson, Murphy, Joyce, Miller, Clark,
Naismith, Carver

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Looking forward to this one - first game of the season for me.

Was always going to be a tough start, but this one is winnable. Tough games coming up in Burton & Snakefield.

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McCartan looked great when he came on on Saturday- nimble, imaginative and with no little skill- he looked ready to me so would like to see him start

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Fair call that Frank,Accis up-turn in form last season coincided with Aldred and Dean being paired at centre half. Bit disappointed he lost his place,as he's slowly regaining some kind of fitness after two years of injuries !!
He played 25 mins against Everton(with Tom) and never conceded,then played 60 mins with Rob against Tranmere and didn't conceed !.
Indeed they moved him to centre half against Stalybridge and they didn't score !!.
Both Tom and Rob are great players,who love attacking and heading the ball,but to be successful as a partnership,I think one needs to alter his game slightly.
At the moment it seems Rob is the sweeper,but IMHO I would have Tom sweeping as he has that extra yard of pace---- or play Dean :)

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Whoever gets the nod at full back this advice from a former player should be tattooed on their foreheads, particularly no.1 which we haven't been very good at for a long time:-

"Number one job, no opposition crosses come in from your wing, ever. Number two job, your winger doesn't get outside you at any time. Number three job, see how he likes the physical side of the game as soon as possible, ( not many did but sometimes you'd get a nasty surprise ). Number four job, get forward and support the midfield."

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Sounds like a extract from chopper harris's book on defending !!:)

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Or Dave Whelan, or John (Tank) Bray. I am amazed that even when gritting my teeth and enduring Premier League matches there seems to be very little effort these days put into the actual tackling of wingers any more. Incredible. What's going on?

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Too many ref's keen to show cards unlike in Whelan and Bray day

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Originally Posted by JIMSLAD (Post 1072130) Too many ref's keen to show cards unlike in Whelan and Bray day

And that's possibly because too many refs also seem to think that they are celebrities [or want to be] and that watching their performance is the reason we pay our money at the gate.

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Literally cannot wait for this. Feeling pretty confident, saw enough good football against portsmouth to believe we can get a result against most teams when we play at home.

For me, I would start Gray and bring in Miller for Joyce.

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Your upbeat mood is a welcome relief on here, TomD.
The fourth game of last season was away at Cheltenham, and ended with a 3-0 win for Stanley!!

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Hopefully it's a good omen. Wouldn't say no to a clean sheet, even if it resulted in a 'boring' 1-0 win.

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Looking forward to this one need a big performance and three points to help lift the fog from around the place.

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Stanley: Dunbavin, Murphy, Aldred, Atkinson, Liddle, Joyce, Richardson, Mingoia, Naismith, L Wilson, McCartan

Subs: Hatfield, Clark, Gray, Carver, Windass, B Wilson


what do we think of that team then?

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Like he said.

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Not a lot of positives out of this game . Two very poor sides , few chances for each team, First save on the hour by Dunbavin low to his right. Their goal came from a free kick that should not have been awarded, 1200 attendance, poor value for money. Not much up front for Stanley.

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Really disappointing. Mccarten and Naismith looked useful early on but didn't threaten their goal all day. Change of formation baffling - from 442 to 433/451 meant that gray and McCarten spent last 25 minutes chasing their full backs. Unfortunately young Richardson no where near ready for this level.

Never a free kick for their goal.

Liddle MOM for me

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All subs used then wilson goes off with what looked like a groin strain, so we finished chasing a goal with 10 men

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My half-full glass is starting to leak slightly .....

On Stanley On !!

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Naismith looks the real deal when fully fit.For me Wilson was the MOM by a country mile!!!!

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Midfield is probably the weakest link at the moment no protection for the back four and lack lustre going forward with no real width for crosses into the box, it was two poor sides today but only one that got the points.

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Carry on playing like that and we'll be in a conference relegation battle next year never mind staying up this year.

Richardson is three tiers out of his depth. He should have been sent off in the first 10 mins for a dreadful lunge. He seemed scared of the responsibility of playing CM and just drifted about stepping on other players toes. Why he is on the pitch instead of our own players I don't know.

McCarten for me did nothing - doesn't seem to be a 4-4-2 player - doesn't have the strength to hold the ball up nor the pace to get in behind making him entirely inappropriate for the direct way we were playing.

The team seems lacking leaders - nobody wanting to take responsibility - why wasn't Deano in today's squad?

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sorry lads IMHO Cheltenham were very poor we were a lot worse, how anyone was able to elect a MOTM is a mystery, one thing is for certain we can't get any worse

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Joyce not up to much again?

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Thought Joyce did alright especially since his partner in the midfield was useless

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The fact we have had no shots on target in the last 2 games says it all...

The upfront situation is a joke and except from Danny webber the players we have are conference players at most !!
Joyce should not be playing or captain , he can't pass forward and is a player who is letting the team down!
Richardson is not a starter for a league 2 club and was dreadful today !

The club need to invest in some football league players or were going to be lingering in the bottom 3 for most of the season !

No pride or passion today , which is also shown by James Beattie who I think his feet are glued to the middle between the sun seats and the touch line.

Bad crowd and its only going to get worse with games like that...

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Never 1200 on gate today unless someone counted us going in a back out again.... :/

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Thank god ... No ****** who turned up today for the first time would show up again

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Must have been me that was sat to close to the incident to see the 2 footed tackle ;)

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The free kick given before the goal was not a foul. Peter Murphy got the ball with a good tackle and the referee had a perfect view. Only the referee will know why he blew. That does not excuse the terrible defending for the goal. Joyce lost his man and Atkinson was caught between two - a moment that summed up a side lacking mental strength.

What I saw today was a highly disorganised team. Naismith and McCartan didn't know where they were meant to be, which is not surprising as they have less than 300 minutes' Football League experience between them.

Our weakness is epitomised by starting a young loanee with no experience (M. Richardson) in the most important area of the field (centre mid). This lad does not contribute to the team in the slightest (certainly no more than Luke Clark can offer).

Beattie is facing early challenges and will have to right them soon. He can start with bringing in Winnard for Atkinson.

Thought Wilson was MOTM but needs more encouragement to get forward if he's to become a forward player.

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People can blame the ref for one bad decision but that doesn't mean it was the reason we lost. The main reason we lost was because our performance wasn't good enough. Our central midfield was completely bypassed for large chunks of the game and I don't understand why we didn't play Winnard at right back and keep Pete in central midfield or even give Luke Clark a chance. I also think Marcus should've started up front instead of Shay. Carver is fully deserving of a chance in front of Shay.

We could only get 6 on the bench too, at this stage of the season it has to worrying to JB that he is short on numbers already. Will the board give him a bit of money to recruit a couple of loans to help with numbers? It's already shaping up to be a long season and I think it will be more of a struggle this time and we may end up propping the table up for a while yet. I think fans would take defeats if performances were honest and players gave 100%, today we were lacking in all departments.

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A very disappointing result,and performance. Does JB know how to make players believe in their abilities like JC could do?

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Up to today i've never liked Luke Joyce because of his continual back passing and putting our defenders under presure..... Today for me he worked hard got stuck in at times and maybe had his best game ..... M. Richardson a young guy needs to put a stone on and come back in another year no doubt he has the skill but gets knocked of the ball far too easy .... The behind the scenes BETTING is doing this club no favours . once again untill we get a CHAIRMAN who lives within easy reach of ACCRINTON i don' think things behind the scenes will improve .... LETS ALL KEEP BEHIND JAMES BEATTIE 100% ......and ON STANLEY ON.... :o

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Ian,
I hate to break it to you but where the chairman lives has no effect on the running of the club.

I said I wouldnt publicaly judge James Beattie as a manager until 10 league games had passed.
I think its important all the fans give him 10 games.

I do wish he would re-register himself as a player, we could do with his quality and leadership on the pitch.
There have some good examples of strikers who have been getting on in age, who have re-invented themselves as central midfielders.

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JBs always had a great touch,but his legs went years ago,and you get found out at this level

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Probably right, F19 , but from the posts on here it sounds as though the young lands up front are being found out. Is it true, no shots on target over 180 minutes of football?
Tough times, will sort the wheat from the chaff.

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My first game on after returning from hols.
After the game settled down at about 10 minutes into the first half I thought we went on and played some reasonable attacking football down the left via Wilson for most of the next 30 minutes or so up to half time. Cheltenham seemed to be there for the taking.
After half time Cheltenham straight away set about our midfield where we were found to be severely lacking. Aldred was playing well at the back under this pressure but our midfield was very poor in general. It was only a matter of time before the pressure told, and a highly debatable free kick award against Murphy for what looked to me like the best tackle of the match led to their goal, which was also down to poor defending by one of our midfield players. Bavs didn't really have a chance as I think the shot took a slight deflection too.
The bulk of our squad to me look like they have the potential to develop into a good unit with the exception of the midfield selected yesterday. We need to sign a couple of strong, combative midfield guys who can dictate play and who can also chip in with some goals. Sounds easy eh! I am sure that James Beattie will be on the look out for players who can improve the team.
It is early days yet. Keep the faith. We just like to make life difficult for ourselves!
Be just like us to beat Cardiff on wednesday!;)
ON STANLEY ON:jimbo:

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Re; where the chairman lives YOU have your opinion and i have mine .... I agree love to see JAMES BEATTIE playing again he is still registerd as player so theres no probs there, the goals he scored last season were all gems and kept us up along with other goals by L.M..... Nobody's judging JAMES as a manager but certain players are not playing as well as they did in pre season against OLDHAM and EVERTON i'd like to know why?..... JAMES BEATTIE and DANNY WEBBER would be AWESOME up front..... once again only my opinion for what its worth ....:o

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Jeffers and Webber would be awesome, two clever players who might understand each other.

Swallow the pride BT and go back with another offer to the big eared one

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The problem with bringing Jeffers back is he's been running his mouth out twitter about how he's getting on with his coaching badges and the job that should have been his over the summer could soon be on the horizon. Also he tweeted after the Newport game that his phone should be ringing that day if we wanted to stay in the league. By all accounts he been making a few tweets aimed in Beats direction since the start of the season and basically making himself look a big headed twonk!

I think he could do a job for us but his attitude is awful. Seems he's happy to sit on his butt and make barbed comments rather than play.

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Beatties registered as a player!!!

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By all accounts Jeffers was offered a good contract by Accringtons standards,but he and his agent wanted a lot more,he thought wrongly plenty of clubs would come in for him.As much as I would like to see him back at Stanley one must admire Beatties attitude that if they're only going to sign for Stanley if no one else wants them then we don't want them.......So sorry Jeffers stay on the dole with your pal JC.