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so says Peter Marsden in this weeks Accrington Observer.

"there won't be an Accrington Stanley if things continue as they are, due to falling attendances"

"The club had taken a calculated risk this season when it lowered season ticket prices in an attempt to get more people through the gate."

"attendances are at their worst ever levels putting the club in a perilous position"

"we need 2000 through the turnstile to break even - we are getting 1300"


First of all the 1300 must relate to home fans only - as the average is over 1600 this season. That's certainly not the worst ever, but is on a par with our worst in the FL

Who took the calculated risk to set a break even at 2000? I'm all for cheaper tickets but unless they go silly low we still wont get 2000.

So onto the problem. We can't produce the team to compete, on our budget, that will bring people in.

The town itself won't come because we have a poor team, poor facilities, have media Google Page Ranking problems by the bucketful, and have no history of looking after the fans that we have got.

Please allow me to be the one that says it. Resign the league status and drop to a level that we can afford. Bollcocks to all this "we've worked too hard to get where we are" type rubbish. You stick to that mantra if that's your opinion, but I'd rather we still had a club than have to run the gauntlet of folding AGAIN.

If we are putting out messages like this so soon into the season then we are really in the sh!te. Winter looms and crowds do not increase during the cold spell just for the fun of it. We can put on some more offers, as we always do, but it's too late. I say every season that we should put the offer games BEFORE we need them not after. Cheapo games right at the beginning of the season when it's warmer and parents can bring their kids, hook them in August and retain them til November. Bring them in October or November and the kid will remember shivering under a leaky roof watching an under confident side losing.

Sick of it. We learn nothing from history.

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Please allow me to say F**K THAT!!!!!!!!!

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Sorry I,m a bit confused was it only in last weeks Observer after a £60000 tax bill was paid just in time Peter Marsden said no need to worry just a hiccup due to seasonal cashflow. Now this week we could be closing due again to lack of support, personally I,m sick of hearing that one they are running the buisness side of the club and being buissness men should run it within it,s means,plus we just had a groud sponser for first time in 3 to 4 years more income come on please stop using the worn out record about support if you can,t run step down and let somebody else do it.

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Bizarre to budget on gates of 2000, When was the last time we got 2000 week in week out?...Conference winning season?

What's the club doing to attract fans, Apart from them signs promoting the games around town?

Why not give 2000 tickets out to school children? Even if only 300 of them kids turn up with a paying adult at £15 its 4.5k extra revenue. 2 home games a month that's an extra 9k a month!...Also think it will do the players a world of good with a better atmosphere cheering them on!

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If we need 2000 on the gate then somebody has got there sums wrong ,last 3to4 seasons we averaged between 1675 to1875 so work on them figures it i,snt rocket science,yet once again we have bad press in the run up to an important game.

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Let's not confuse what the club have budgeted for and what the Chairman says we need to break even. If we have budgeted for 2000 it's the most ridiculous business move since hiring Marcelle Lazarus - but I very much doubt that's the case.

The Chairman is saying that the club is running at a loss (quelle surprise) and would break even on 2000 gates. I'm inclined to think that this is an ill-thought out Google Page Ranking move after realising that last week's statement of "we're not in trouble" might not worry the Accrington public enough; not enough to get more bums on seats.

There has been no change in the apathy of Accrington towards its town club. The gates aren't plunging - they've been embarrassing for years. There have however been far too many mistakes off the pitch this season in the way of missing potential extra income through basic marketing initiatives.

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Rather worrying at the very least

Does need some explaining and quickly

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Well tomorrow night is the right time to ask http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f93/a-g-m-64843.html not been a share holder my self cant ask the question but those that are sure can..

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Morecambe FC fan in peace.

Really sorry to hear this sad news. Hope things can be sorted. Makes me sick the amount of money in the game at the Premier League level and grass roots clubs struggling to make ends meet. Really enjoy our matches (even though you usually beat us LOL!), long may they continue.

All the best guys - I know for a fact there are plenty of fellow Morecambe fans rooting for you!

Cheers,
Nick

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Whilst it's not really a surprise that finances are a real struggle, I do have some sympathy for Peter Marsden who is pumping in some of his own money to keep the club going and I know this creates more debt but he has been left holding the baby so to speak. This means he either puts money in or the club goes, a no win situation for anybody in truth.

The gamble taken on reducing season ticket prices was an admirable but very risky decision but unfortunately not enough people have taken it up to make up the shortfall in money from last seasons ticket holders money IMO. The club have taken a gamble on giving out 2 year contracts to established players in the hope that would give us a team that would be aiming higher up the table and this just hasn't happened on the pitch so far.

Things off the pitch have been a major distraction too, with the Rob Heys saga leaving a bad taste in the mouth. The club badly need one person in charge behind the scenes who can put together some proper procedures, structure and policies to put into place to allow the club function in a professional manner and to respond to customers needs such as online ticketing and availability of home shirts and other merchandise. Nothing has been mentioned about the home shirts that were meant to be here by this weekend yet nothing (as far as I'm aware) has been mentioned about it on the website about any updates on the progress of this.

I don't know if they do it but budgets should be in place every season for match staff and non-match operations that should be monitored and reviewed every month to ensure performance is on track with budgets and if it isn't action should be taken to bring it back on track. I think these sort of things haven't been in place and this hasn't resulted in overruns in budget spends and create further increases in debt. If this sort of thing would have been put in place in 2006 we may not have overspent as much as we have.

My main point is that the club has to be run in a way that keeps the club viable and this has to be done through appropriate governance and monitoring that has been lacking for a while. Having fans running the club is not going to help us get an effective business, we need someone independent to run the operations of the lack as if it was a commercial business.

I hope some good things come out of the AGM tomorrow and that the club finds a way to survive but my fear is the only way this will happen is via administration that will ultimately end our stay in the football league but may save the long term future of the club.

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Saturday should see a decent gate so that may help, but it's a vicious circle and always will be.

Point (1) Poor fare on offer, people won't turn up and pay to watch.

Point (2) No money to spend on players/wages means lack of quality in the side as opposed to other teams in the division.

Point (3) No incentive for players to join Accy so we start back at point (1)

When teams like Pompey are getting 14000+ every week where is the level playing field ? I'd argue that they shouldn't even have League status after the financial shenanigans that were going on there. They should be with Luton & Stockport.

The Premiership and the hideous amounts of money flowing into it, is killing the competitive game in this country and nobody cares. They are all too busy getting fatter and richer whilst the lower leagues are slowly being strangled and starved to the point of no return.

Do they care ? Do they f**k.

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I'm confused too - link below:-

Accrington Stanley chairman Peter Marsden says club not in financial danger - Accrington Observer

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I think he's saying two different things. Last week he was saying that there's no immediate danger of the club being wound up because of the tax bill. This week he's saying that the club can't survive indefinitely on the size of gates at the moment. They gambled on the season tickets in the hope that it would attract more but it hasn't worked and the early season results haven't helped either. I don't know what was offered in the two year contracts but I hope it wasn't anything silly because unless things change round there are only two ways out.

1. The club does go bust again.
2. Costs have to be cut (possibly by going into administration which I would hate to see because it ends up with small suppliers getting hurt) and Stanley return to a more sustainable level of football (Conference, Conference North, NPL)

Of those two options I know which I prefer and it isn't the first. Ideally I would like to see Stanley as a league club for years to come but if that isn't financially possible let's have a club to support somewhere in the football pyramid.

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There's no easy way out of this. We've had enough seasons in the League to build a bigger fan-base, but instead of growing it's actually declined.

Looking at the overall picture at the moment [how the club operates, income, fan-base, etc], Conference North with a part-time playing staff is the best we can hope for.

The club has been at an unsustainable level for too long, often propped up by generous 'investors' and 'hopeful financial policies'. Having the club in the hands of the fans is a noble gesture, but only if it's done properly and the right skill set is in place. Otherwise it's a recipe for disaster.

I'd like to see the club see out this season and not resign again from the League, then look to step down to a level that is sustainable for the long term.

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Actually, the ONLY realistic way out of this is to produce performances that will attract people through the turnstiles. It's simple on paper, but the reality is somewhat different. It all comes down to cash, attendances and performances.

Unless the Sultan of Brunei suddenly finds out that his Grandad was born in Baxenden, we aren't really going to find a 'sugar daddy' to wave his wand.

Hard work and a fighting spirit. The players can only ever do their best and hope it's enough. There are plenty of clubs facing a financial precipice.

Resigning the league is throwing the towel in. It's a non-starter. It would mean self-inflicted permanent exile. If Accy leave the League it should be after fighting to stay there.

Look at Stockport now. No thanks.

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Spot on. Everyone who attends the crown, knows its always been a financial nightmare fer a club like ours, if they aint aware of the fact then they are numpties.:rolleyes: To me this message from P.M. is like a warning shot across the bows, to those who don't go? Ok were in a sticky situation, but thats nowt new, But the panicky ones latch on to it, Keep The Faith.

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From a long way away, it doesn't seem to me that even a successful team can attract support from the town. The play-off semi 3 seasons back didn't approach selling out, iirc. Nor did a FA Cup fourth round tie against Fulham .....

Getting league status back righted a 50 year-old wrong and was the fulfilment of a mission (logically a mission impossible, but passion overcomes logic). Relegation back to a level commensurate with the support the town can provide regularly is probably inevitable at some stage, though not necessarily this time, yet. On the other hand, resignation from the league mid-season would be every bit as much of a tragedy as it was in '62. And let's not kid ourselves that a team resigning from the league in that situation would get a Conference place the following season. If we do go back through the trapdoor to non-league we must do it with dignity and a measure of control.

And btw, as a resident (not a supporter) of Pompey, I take a lot of pride in the way my fellow citizens continue to support their (now fan-owned) club despite the appalling mismanagement over the last few years, and the way the local suppliers continue to be prepared to provide services despite being let down twice. If only Accrington felt the same way ....

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sorry, I must confirm what I meant by resign - not fold mid-season but to see out the season and whatever happens we drop. I'd prefer that to be a dignified, finished 22nd type of drop but we must go to a level where we can afford to function without the threat of closure hanging over us.

League status is nice and is a reward to all those who toiled for decades to achieve it. However I 'm sure all those people would rather us have a club to try again with, rather than one that refused to throw in the towel and folded with ridiculously small debts again.

Maybe it's overkill, maybe PM was just trying scare tactics as did the two previous Chairmen over about 7 successive seasons but there must be an element of truth behind it or why say it?

No doubt the AGM tonight will shed some light on it "don't worry, it's fine. But it is true we need more through the gates".

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From a personal point of view I'd rather we stayed in the league but we did it honestly and without gambling our future. We may have the lowest budget in the league on around 500k but even this is too high. Announce to the world that next season will be fought out with our youth team on a budget of 50p. Let the world know that this is the future for 4th tier football because of the strangulation of the game at PL level.

I'd sooner back a team of plucky kids trying hard to finish 22nd than a team of paid professionals under achieving. Invoke the spirit of all those who have gone before and do it on our terms, not trying to keep up with those who have more money than us

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What a crock of s***e

Maybe just have someone at the club with commercial nouse! Theres a serious lack of common sense being applied to policies/campaigns.

Attendances have been dwindling for years, how the club can budget 2000 coming through the gates is commercial suicide. Not only that, football fans are the most fickle in the world,people dont watch Accrington Stanley when they're winning nevermind sitting at the bottom of the football league.

Dont get me wrong Im keeping the faith and I still believe its just a matter of time until fortunes turn on the pitch! However, the 'noise' off the pitch does not fill with anybody with confidence, although its quite a pragmatic statement in terms of the direct correlation between support and the survival of the football club, I think Marsden could have done it very differently. I guess the press have had a hand in the portrayal of the issue.

I think it should be more like this

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rc...79762480875754

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Fan ownership anyone?

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If the situation is as dire as some are implying then as Fans we have a right to know what is going on?

Our Own Club Website is very quiet on the subject yes there is an AGM tonight but are we not all stakeholders in some shape or form so the address should be to everyone give us a chance to hear first hand how things are and ask the questions whether that be via Our Chairman, One of the Fan's Directors or the Supporters Liaison Officer.

Forums can be argued are not the place to tell all that's a fair point but they are a place for fans to either praise or vent their frustration.

Our Support is small but with that comes a togetherness and with that comes a group of people who are diehards that in the past have been used to people's own ends if there was ever a time to bring everyone together with a focus and a genuine goal now is it both for the Lads on the Pitch and all those off the Pitch.

It is All Our Club

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Fan ownership would be difficult! we haven't got enough fans!

Its a real shame to see this happening again but if we survive this time the problem will come back again in a couple of years as it has done now.

For me this season is a right off, our squad isn't good enough to compete for financial reasons and relegation shouldn't bother us. The 1000 fans we have will still come in the conference and conference north.

League two was our premier league and we have survived there for 7 years!!!

who knows in ten years time we might come back up and steal the hearts of the locals again (temporarily!!)

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Disagree season is far from a right off to me, and to say the lads aint good enough to compete is insulting.:(

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Didn't mean it insulting! I don't blame the players one bit or the manager for that matter. They are playing to the best of their abilities and giving 100%. Yet we haven't won a game!

Many clubs in our position would invest in better players, we cant!

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Right on the money. You NEVER EVER give up your precious Football League status voluntarily. If we end the season in one of the bottom two places (which I don't think we will), then fair, enough, we've no choice in the matter. But to suggest that we just play out the season, then make some sort of quiet, dignified voluntary exit from the league is sheer defeatism.

We voluntarily resigned from the league on March 6th, 1962 and the very next day we were regretting it and trying to rescind our resignation...and we carried on regretting it for 44 years! And now some people are suggesting that we make this same mistake all over again.

Look, this is Accrington Stanley, financial crises have been a fact of life for us since Accrington FC started up in the late 19th Century. We're struggling, we'll probably always struggle, but just to give up and meekly accept our place as a Conference North club? Nah..that's not our way!

Passion overcomes logic!

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I cannot believe the defeatism in this thread, very sad

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They're right folks. Rolling over and accepting defeat would be silly!

Seeing the season out to be relegated, thats just backwards thinking!

We're the club that would die.

This statement is testament to the supporters of Accrington Stanley. NEVER GIVE UP!!!

If someone was taking something away from you in your life, would you just stand still in silence and let it disappear? No you bloody wouldnt.

Lets pick your heads up off the floor and think positive as SUPPORTers. Rightly so we can pass judgement on both on & the off the field occurrences as we invest our hard earned money but negative thinking generally elicits negative outcomes.

KEEP THE FAITH!

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Well said ash, using the logic of some on here, we wouldn't have turned up at Boro the other week.

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i'll see you all at the Easter bucket handout then :)

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Oh ******.


Hope no one saw my slight error... In my post,


We're the club that wouldn't die.


Hahahahah ooooops

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If you think our squad isn't good enough you want to take up watching netball.I think it's an insult to a squad that is talented and trying their hearts out,the team has been ripped apart with injuries and sheer bad luck and all sorts of crap off the field doesn't help.James Beattie is a real revelation with very good contacts as are his back room staff,keep the faith a winning run is on the horizon and we'll still make the play offs.As for dropping out of the league SOD THAT....On Stanley On Stanley on!!!!

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middlesborough ???

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Not that long ago they were minutes from going under,several months notice is good communication from the club :)

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I saw it, but thought you were being cleverly ironic :D

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If you think our current squad is good you should try and watch more football!!

Oh hang on, that one game against boro!

I take it all back we are amazing!

Get real!

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We're the club that would die.

Ash You were right in your quote ... but you just didn't finish it...

We're the club that would die....... UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSOEVER NOT WHILE THE SUN STILL SHINES:alright:(AND IT'S DUE TO SHINE FOR ANOTHER 500,000 YEARS AT
LEAST!):hothothot:hothothot:hothothot
ON STANLEY ON:jimbo:

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Hang on... don't you realise that we're very, very unlucky? Either that or we keep being given the worst officials available, and that costs us? Surely you must realise that? Or are we all 'numpties' as Cashman keeps saying? :rolleyes:

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Oh i never said "All" T.M. but still if the cap fits.:D

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You're the one that wants to get real !!!
If you've got that opinion having been to all the matches there's a problem with your eyesight ,think I've a spec savers voucher in my drawer,I'll try and find it for you !!!

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We DO have a good squad and I feel sure things will turn around for us on the pitch . Our real problem is off the pitch . Money ,money , money or should I say the lack of it . As we know £000,000s goes into the premier teams , but the poorer teams like Stanley are left to struggle and unfortunately close the doors . We can't let this happen to Stanley again , we need some damn good ideas or more sponsors to generate our income. It Ok me talking , like everyone else , I see the problems but have no idea how to solve them , just hope someone out there can help.

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To be honest i think most of those who think we got a poor squad, have seen very little of our games this season n have made minds up due to our league position? could be wrong but its my thoughts.

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No time like the present Three points today would be most Welcome

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AGM last night So how much of a shortfall do we need to make up? How much is the club loosing on a week by week basis? Is there a plan in place to stop this? or will we just revert to the old age failed method of having a go at the people of Accrington!

I don't know which is more worrying, the lack of cash or the lack of knowledge

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what's transiring ? - no online match prog, no match commentary link, nothing about the agm - frightened to switch sports news on in case the unthinkable - - - nah, won't have signed the new left back, would we ?

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what's transiring is the word transpiring but someone took the p !

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The demographics of the town have changed dramatically. It's okay people saying there is a population of 80k, but that isn't the same 80k that were in the town 10 years ago. Burnley and Blackburn are both getting the same problem, as are probably many other small towns. Burnley have had their best start for 12 years and got 9k on the other night. It's only by being successful on the pitch you have a chance of getting people to come from further afield to the games, ie Conference Winning Season.

The finances have to come from other sources

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In circumstances like this cashy I've always put you down as the master milliner :rolleyes::D

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That one's working :)

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lot of negative comments on this thread about a founder member of the football league. Sorry, but unless you actually attend the matches to support the club then just posting on here is futile!

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I have just returned from todays match , more from Rochdale than Accrington , thats a shame.

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Not true!! Attendace on GtG in a min:)

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Only just not true.:eek:

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:eek: Now your been picky cashy ;):D

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Whats GtG ?

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Guess the Gate , I just realised it.

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Given today's attendance details, if 2000 is break-even for Stanley then the only hope is to bring back Division Three North. Except this time it would have to be League One North, and we could all celebrate a promotion!

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Seem to recall calculating when it was announced that we had 24 more than them.

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From the live text on club website:

Crowd is 2180
Saturday September 21, 2013 4:10
1078 visitors
Saturday September 21, 2013 4:10

We had 102 more than Rochdale.

Next joke please.

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if the attendance was so close in numbers, why did that baffoon on the mic even announce the figure from rochdale, and what was all that about a shirt
from rochdale, embarrassing at its best, god knows how many are going to be on for the next friday game against d&g

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I like 'buffoon', the nicest thing that I've been called for quite some time. I announced what I was instructed to announce - nothing more, nothing less. I also thought it was all crackers.:rolleyes:

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I wonder who's the "Buffoon" now?:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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I know this is being pedantic, but 2180 minus 1078 equals 1102.

Therefore, we had 24 more fans on (1102-1078)

Sorry!!

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You are of course correct. I have kicked no.1 son and told him to pay more attention in maths.

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Whatever the difference it is still a sad and sorry state that we have got to this.

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In that case the question must be, who asked ?

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And also fer what reason.? Think it requires explanation.

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The next home game is massive a Friday Night game with nobody local playing a chance to drop the admission prices get a decent crowd on and really kick-start our Home Form and if we do give it another incentive with a money off coupon for the next home game after this who knows it may actually encourage people to come back?

So come on somebody at the Club "grasp the nettle" and let's get it out there what have we got to lose?

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talking of grasping the nettle I have a challenge for the Supporters Club to take on

Assuming that we still have a club for the 2014/15 season, the challenge is how much effort can the OSC put into pushing the first three home games? This effort can be by way of personally doing it or getting the club to push it.

Every season we wait until we either skint or near the bottom before we put on an offer to try to get people through the gates. It's too late then. Get them at the start of the season when its warm, dry and light 'til late.

Every 'weapon' at our disposal should be put into pushing those crucial first games and it doesn't matter which league we are in for that matter.

kids for free and push the family side of it (bung 'em int'Whinney hill please)

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What can the OSC do that the club cant?

The club has the power to do special offers for tickets, to set the prices for admission, it has the avenues available to advertise the games and it has the option of making people aware of it on social media. The club are the ones that should be in the driving seat for things like this, especially the flexi-ticket option, this is something that should be advertised a lot more to increase the low sales of this ticket option.

At the end of the day, the club is a business first and a football club second, the right people need to be in the right positions to push commercial activities and to improve ticket sales/ ways of selling them/ ticket options and pricing games accordingly to increase attendances. The club has to look at offering online ticket sales as a way of increasing attendances. Most businesses are moving to online sales to generate more business so surely this is something we have to move towards?

The OSC can advertise ticket sales on various social media platforms and pass on the word to other people, this is what us as fans can do too. Beyond spending our hard earned money on tickets there is little else we can do.

The Dagenham game pricing could be looked at to reduce prices as a one off or offer 3 tickets for £35 for the October home games just as a thought.

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Rob in terms of pushing particularly the Flexi Ticket idea which I still think is a cracking idea I spoke on Radio Lancashire, had a piece with the FSF, gave comments to the Accy Observer and pushed on here as well as Twitter the problem was it was not followed up by the Club with a Grandiose Launch which it deserved it only seems to have been the last week where it has started to trickle out again.

Needs to be a lead story on the Website and followed up with a press release even now it could still bring in some coin.

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Do we have a New Commercial Manager in place yet?

As this for the Club could be the "Signing of the Season" for the Club barriers to be broke down and re-connection with the Community and Business Community of Hynburn out on the knocker driving Matchday income up, driving the Gold Bond back up or looking a more localised version.

Nelson FC which are not a million miles from me are signing commercial partners up, launching a Gold Bond, having players meals sponsored and are leaving nothing untuned in pursuit of pushing the Club in so many different angles we have so much to learn.

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Must be imminent, interviews were held end of last week

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How are they gonna pay Him/Her? unless very quick results.:eek:

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Orders from the tower (the box in the corner) :alright:

Don't worry - that was my first stint for 18 months and my last :D

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I think that they will pay for themselves ;) :) :)

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I wasn't meaning n explanation from you Bob.;)

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Makes pretty stark reading..........

Stanley could slide without more help (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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Agree with you there SM...the last Paragraph is interesting though...(Quote)

"But Stanley are speaking to potential candidates to take over the day to day running of the club and are also conducting interviews to bring in up to three new commercial staff – believing that is pivotal to increasing revenue ".

My feelings being...The sooner the better !.

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BBC Sport - Dougie Freedman: Bolton manager will not walk away after poor start

Bolton sit at the foot of the championship and like Stanley havent won in the first 8 games.

The former Crystal Palace boss took control of Bolton in October 2012 and masterminded a turnaround that saw Wanderers climb from 20th position in February to the brink of the play-offs.

They Only lost out on a playoff place on the last game of the season.

THAT IS ALL.

KEEP THE FAITH. THE SEASON IS ONLY AT HIS FIRST HURDLE

STANLEY DONT GET KNOCKED DOWN, THEY GET UP AGAIN!! (Lyrics courtesy of Chumbawumba)

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Are we talking commission positions only Joe?

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The problem now is the job security of employment at Accrington Stanley. The Chairman has just told the 'world' the future of the club is by all means not 100% certain unless things take an upturn financially i.ee gates etc. Who in the right mind would take up an job with no security?They will certainly work on a LIFO basis (Last In First Out)

I hope the perfect candidate is out there, the club is lacking commercially big time!

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No, I was trying to put the emphasis on they ;) :)

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Really hope we get high calibre Candidates for the job of the Day to Day running of the Club a figurehead for the Club hopefully someone who knows the game inside out has a contact book absolutely bulging and a plethora of fresh ideas of pulling it all together.

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Quite correct, but I feel they don't do it adequately and many offers seem only to be advertised in the direction of those who are probably already going - back in the days when we had staff that knew how to operate the various systems I used to get fortnightly emails telling me how cheaply I could get a ticket for the next game :rolleyes:

My off-the-top of my head grasp the nettle comment aims at maybe the OSC forcing the issue by keeping on at the club to do it earlier in the season and trying to maximise the whole event.

to expand the idea then, and I'm making it up as I go along;

a series of events up to and during the 3 game push. These could club led and OSC led and could be along the lines a Sportsmans Dinner, a meet the new squad event with shirt signings and naming/numbering of the inevitable new shirt, a supporters disco, a sponsors gala, free ticket giveaways through avenue open to us, community team in and around the town centre. Some of these things are done occasionally, some aren't, but do them all at the same sort of time themed and targeted towards different groups.

Some sort of event could be organised aimed towards getting all the fans that travel a long way (such as Jimbo, Revived Red or Deayess) to come at the same time. Have we got contact details for the Irish fellas or the Norwegian chaps? Get everyone in together for the same game rather than each individual coming to random games alone.

That first home game of the season sets the tone for much of what is to follow and it should be proactively pushed, and those who may or may not come need to feel like they are really missing out if they don't.

I feel well qualified to comment on that last bit. Had I not spend much of the last 2/3 years unemployed then I'd probably still come to every game. As it is I have to pick and choose the games that I can come to, it has to feel like it's a big occasion. Portsmouth almost did that for me all on its own, but in the end I chose to watch it at home. It just didn't seem to get pushed as being special in any way.

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Some good comments Rob and fair ones but with most things voluntary people don't have as much time to give and have other commitments and when things go in one general direction there comes a time you think you can only bang a drum so long and you would not believe how hard we have tried.

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I don't see the relevance?

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As the late, great Mike Read would say......

You really are a doughnut DAVO......:nono8:

Try reading the following sentence properly and then think about it's correlation with our current plight

Get the picture ??? Now go into the corner and recite "I really am a doughnut" and repeat it 100 times.:rolleyes:

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no,
there is no relevance.
Doug Freedman has experience and has proved he has done ok before at Bolton (last season),
Its also a widely held view he has a decent squad.

James Beattie has no experience.
The squad he has assembled has showed very little to date.

Worlds apart.
Some of this 'positive for the sake of being positive' rubbish on here does nobody any favours.
Deal in facts.

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I will try to close with some positive points when I first came to a Stanley game the first thing that struck me was not the ground or even the team for that matter it was more the fans from the lung bursting support of the Ultras to the out and out friendliness of the fans in general which were all passionate and unswerving in there support of ASFC that remains to this day regardless of the success we have had promotion from the Conference and remaining a Football League Club.

Outside of Accrington there is a massive affection for the Club and it's chequered history and being the perennial underdogs I am sure we have all been places whether close to home or far and wide where the shirt or the hat with the name Accrington Stanley has sparked conversation.

We are all deeply proud of our Club and want what is Best in each others eyes for the Club.

We can all carry a message but we need a message to carry "Your Club Needs You"

On Stanley On

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Ok i'll deal in facts, Fact is you never wanted anybody apart from Coleman in charge.:rolleyes:

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dav007


It couldn't be more relevant. Freedman was appointed Bolton manager with little experience and turned a very poor side into a playoff contending. My point being that from the championship down to league two any team that has a little run regardless of there initial position will fly up the league. Thats fact Dave. 5-6wins in a row.... You'll all be on here raving about going up. fickleness at its best.

Ain't being positive for sake of it just sick of reading negative dross on here. I know we've got a bad squad, I know that its going to be a real struggle this season, I can look at it in real terms but the way people are reacting to the facts is sad to read, who in the right mind would settle to be relegated at this point in the season

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Wrong.
Paul cook
Jose mourinho
Sir alex

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Well that explains much to me.:rolleyes:

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THE ITCHY & SCRATCHY SHOW continues....

DAV007 & Cashman.. sure youre not married?

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[QUOTE=AsFc62;1076838].. sure youre not married?[/QUOTE]

If they were, at least it wouldn't spoil another couple.

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Not wanting to appear to be splitting hairs Dav, but JB does have a wealth of footballing experience on his CV, and presumably is calling upon this to see him through what appears to be developing into a mini-crisis for the club and it's team. What he doesn't have is the experience which can only be gained over a period ( and the longer the better !) of Managing any Soccer Team whatsoever.
This, I admit, was the factor which caused me to pause for thought on his appointment to the position, and still makes me wonder if this dearth of involvement in all that is so important to bringing any success to a Soccer team will eventually lead the other way towards abject failure !.
So where does it leave me, I have heard remarks such as ' t'Stanley can't afford to let him go !' ( Presumably this having fiscal undertones !).. and on the other hand, as AsFc62 rightly posted...
' Dave. 5-6wins in a row.... You'll all be on here raving about going up. fickleness at its best. '.
I, like everyone on our Forum, only want the best for the Club and it's Team..we've all been round for that long, how could we wish for anything else !.. things appear to be somewhat shaky on every front from lack of efficient administration and the onset of a dark age where 'selling' all that is good about the club is concerned, to all those factors surrounding the Team and it's players which cause all Forum users to have the collywobbles ! ( If one believes all that one reads herein !).
The Status quo, as we all read it in our different ways, is likely to persist.... as it does Season by Season at The Crown. ... all we fans have is the hope that keeps us going to match after match...not to see the worst in our Team but to take pleasure in those rare moments of ecstasy..( Saturday's goal was one !)...and to see little of importance in our League position ! (That will get me a few shots across my bow I guess!).
Hope for the best then... and I can't resist a touch of erudition here !!......because...



“Hope is the companion of power, and mother of success; for who so hopes strongly has within him the gift of miracles.".

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Yonmon

Do you use those long fancy words in everyday language ?????

You will getting accused of being a "TOTAL PILOCK"

:):):)

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Yes he does, and it is a pleasure to hear him!