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Interesting to see the boss has put himself on the bench

BBC Sport - Accrington Stanley v Dagenham & Redbridge

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right before they scored

51:37 Attempt missed. Shay McCartan (Accrington Stanley) header from the right side of the six yard box is close, but misses to the right.

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First time I've ever walked out of a Stanley game before the end. Abysmal showing.

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1-2 loss.

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well Davo, he's had his ten games. Give Coley a ring and see if AFC Kirkby Arms can spare him

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Yet another defeat, when are things going to turn around? It's getting to be a bad habit which can only bring problems. :(

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How long can this seriously go on. Can't think of any positives at the moment. Our manager doesn't give me the impression he has the capabilities to get us out of this mess. If a change isn't made soon we will go down with a record low total. Was always a risky appointment but enough is enough he has to go

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no need to ring both JC & JB were at the match

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Hopefully Jimmy has understanding with Vale about his release

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2 things struck me tonight. Both goals for Dagenham were a mile offside and the liner on the main stand side could not keep up with play. We deserved and got nought out of that game.
The crowd that was announced was a mile below the number of bums on seats, appeared to be more than 2,500 of which about 100 were Daggers fans. Is EW rearing his ugly head again?
Finally yes I know this is the third thing, James Beattie has had his chance and it would appear not to be working. If this Friday night thing is to work then we have to have a successful team otherwise we are heading for oblivion and much as it pains me, I have to agree with Dav007 on another thread, thanks JB but no thanks. You gave it your best shot and it didn't work.:mad:

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I was very worried when I saw the starting line up, with no apparent attempt to go at Dagenham with all guns blazing, and what little quality we have mostly warming the bench. At half time I was completely peed off with the dross Stanley produced after a reasonable first 15 minutes followed by the usual effort without any quality penetration. At the beginning of the second half I was furious that JB had changed nothing in his line up, continuing with the worst pair of midfielders in the entire football league. We are becoming detached at the bottom, for crying out loud, yet still he persists with the 2 deadlegs who haven't any attacking nous between them. At the end I was devastated by a complete failure to capitalise on a decent crowd, great backing from the fans yet again, which JB has been calling for, and the sheer embarrassment caused by standing among a group of Rochdale and Bury fans who couldn't believe what they were seeing:- i.e., the worst player on the pitch staying on the pitch. As one of them shouted "I suppose every team has it's ******" after yet another Horlicks, and then raising a laugh when the Daggers subbed their player of the same name by shouting " It's the wrong ******!"
They were still commendably urging Stanley on to the end, however, but I can't see them coming back.
I've had it with JB, I'm sorry to say. He continues to praise his players but is blind to the footballing realities. Davo, I think you have got it right, although I really wish it were otherwise.

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Having watched highlights of some of the Daggers games it did not take Einstein to work out how they set-up & play & so it proved and boy was it effective, this game in the past has proved to be a home banker but it was far from that last night. Daggers probably in a lot of ways mirror Stanley in terms of Support & Finacial Support but that's where the similarities ended.

A golden opportunity was missed with many neutrals taking up the Tenner offer and faces returning I have not seen for a while and a genuine chance to turn the season around was met by a lack of cohesion, leadership & fight.

Nobody wants to be negative of the Club we are all Supporters but we are on a downward spiral and the Club has to do some soul searching to arrest it and very quickly.

I overheard somebody who is old enough to remember in the Crown before the game describe the season so far as shades of 61-62 & that sent shivers down my spine.

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Well my two pence worth..........

We really did look shockingly bad in all areas. My last game was Chesterfield away and the worrying thing is we seemed to have gone backwards. No penetration, awful passing, absolutely NOTHING in midfield. With a defence that seems to have zero confidence.

Im absolutely gutted by the situation as pre-season and especially after the Middlesborough and Pompey games I thought we really had a side on our hands.

So where does the problem lie. Call me old fashioned but there is no doubt the middle of midfield is the most important area on a football pitch. It provides the defence with protection aswell as supporting the attack and its quite clear to me our's is simply non-existent.

Just look at the last few years .. Craney (1st time round), Ryan, Bryan Hughes, Linganzi... All wonderful players that controlled the field from the middle of the park. Just look at last night, Joyce yet again was a headless chicken and contributed nothing, and hasnt for 2 years, DROP him, simple.
Murphy has done a job in there (Pompey at home) especially springs to mind, but he is a natural defender, for the 100th time.
Much as I love Hatfield, he is not a central midfielder and looked all over the place last night. How many goals has he scored for us playing just behind the front man??!?
Miller!??! Absolute passenger AGAIN.

Where is josh windass?? Surely he deserves a chance?? We cant do any worse in there.

As for positives, Odejayi tried his balls off and won everything in the air, so fair play to the lad, but if he flicks it on and there is nobody there to recieve it, whats the point??
Also thought the young lad from Blackpool looks a talent, but do we really need another winger??

:( Massively worrying.

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the positive thing to take out of this is that we have Morecambe coming up soon - so at least we know the run will end there :)

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Hope so, Macca, but the odds must be massively on their run ending there!

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Smudgie seems to mirror how I see it.
For me tho,it's the structure/shape that jumps out.
Unless you have two tremendous athletic players in the middle of the park,then you have to play three in there with one always holding,the other two allowed to join in.
If you look at goals we conceed,gaps just open up in central areas (caught forward/switching off ).
The holding player allows your cbs to split slightly and that encourages your fullbacks to join in.
Playing two wingers in the modern game just doesn't work,as when you don't have the ball it creates spaces for the opposition to pick you off.
Murph started righ wing yesterday,and I presume was detailed to tuck in when defending,but it just didn't happen for me.
Pace is also a worry,as when your up against it,the either drop deeper or start down the road of suicidal defending.
Positives,the keeper and the centre forward .
Summary- play 4-3-3 /proper holding midfielder and more pace KTF

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Odejayi was the only real player to come out of the game with any credit, he has been a decent signing but he badly needs a better strike partner than Shay. If Webber isn't going to be fit, we need to recall Carver and get him playing up front.

We didn't start with any wingers and had players playing in unfamiliar positions such as Hatfield. When Will played off the main striker towards the end of last season, it changed our season around and results started getting better. It would have been better to have played Hatfield and Odejayi up front and have had new guy and Naismith on the wings plus Mahoney should've started instead of Miller.

The squad we have on paper is one of the best we have had for a while but the manager seems unable to get a good performance out of them. I wonder if it might be worth trying to bring an experienced assistant for JB to be mentored by. I think we need to stick with JB for now but time is running out for him.

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Odejay needs carver.. Are u sure.

Gray had played 3 times in his proper position as a 2nd striker and scored twice, surely that's the partnership that JB needs to persevere with. McCarten is a winger, he's lively and his pace is dangerous but he never gets in goal scoring positions.

Talking of partnerships Aldred and Atkinson doesn't work when Winnard is back fit he needs to play.

New lad looks lively, midfield is poor, prefer Bav in goal and liddle at left back