Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1078417)

Yeh he applied fer the stanley job FACT. ask yerself why somebody yeh say is so wonderful,did NOT get it? Could it be the fact that all the good he did, which was much could not be overlooked, in other words yeh can't paper a turd.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 1078434)

Because the Board made a mistake and appointed the wrong man?

A JC team wouldn't have such a low goal effort ratio as the current team, that's pretty much a certainty. It's impressive to talk about the newly instilled 'professionalism', but for a tinpot outfit like Stanley, professionalism and fair play are the last thing required for survival. We really need someone who knows all the 'tricks'. Someone who can duck and dive. Someone who you'd hate if you were an opposition fan, but secretly envy and wish they were working for your club. There's only one man for this job, and Davo is quite right.

I don't feel any disrespect for the current manager. He seems a decent and honest human being, who's not ready for a unique situation like that at Accrington. Nobody can blame him for that. The real mistake, in my opinion, was made at the end of last season by people who are not blameless.

Originally Posted by football19 (Post 1078435)

Tried to stay out of this debate,but can't agree with you Cashy. JC is one of the best results/playing budget managers around,as you say "simple".
He tried his luck at league one level,but it didn't work out,for the same reasons as JB is finding (changing things too quickly).
He has a great knowledge of the game,but he rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way,which fuelled Stanley's success(no one liked playing at the crown ground)
By your comments regarding his interview,you are not fully aware of the facts (which are not for a forum debate).
Saying that,I am fully behind JB,but totally against JCs critisisum,he for me represented everything what Stanley are about,ie; us v everyone else.
PS - was with the scouting fraternity at Wigan today,and we would give both teams a game !!!

Originally Posted by Morecambe_Red (Post 1078432)

I can assure you its not a smug grin and I want Accrington to finish above the dotted line. I'd much prefer one or preferably two of the "big" clubs to go down rather than a club I see as similar to the Shrimps.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1078437)

Would Roscoe De sane be against this criticism?:(

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 1078434)

Because the Board made a mistake and appointed the wrong man?

A JC team wouldn't have such a low goal effort ratio as the current team, that's pretty much a certainty. It's impressive to talk about the newly instilled 'professionalism', but for a tinpot outfit like Stanley, professionalism and fair play are the last thing required for survival. We really need someone who knows all the 'tricks'. Someone who can duck and dive. Someone who you'd hate if you were an opposition fan, but secretly envy and wish they were working for your club. There's only one man for this job, and Davo is quite right.

I don't feel any disrespect for the current manager. He seems a decent and honest human being, who's not ready for a unique situation like that at Accrington. Nobody can blame him for that. The real mistake, in my opinion, was made at the end of last season by people who are not blameless.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1078436)

I have to strongly disagree,we get little enough gates now n i'm aware of quite a few who would not re-new if he returned.:(

Originally Posted by johnc (Post 1078446)

If JC is the man to turn us around then so be it, you support the club whoever is the manager ;)

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 1078443)

I was berated for suggesting this when JB was appointed. I've still got the tin hat somewhere, I'll give you a lend.

Back when JC was appointed we had people at the club who knew non-league football inside out. Notwithstanding hearts being in the right place, I'm not convinced anyone on our current board knows football at all.

Originally Posted by Alvin the chipmunk (Post 1078454)

Superb post spot on. :) Quite simply....JC knew how to win games. Simple.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1078436)

I have to strongly disagree,we get little enough gates now n i'm aware of quite a few who would not re-new if he returned.:(

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1078455)

Yeh he did, so all else is forgiven/forgotten? am sure glad i aint young any more, morals have gone out the window.:eek:

Originally Posted by SamF (Post 1078480)

Sorry Cashman but your getting worse that DAV. This 'I know something you don't know' crap is getting old quick - either put up(prefixed with the word allegedly) or shut up .

Originally Posted by SamF (Post 1078480)

Sorry Cashman but your getting worse that DAV. This 'I know something you don't know' crap is getting old quick - either put up(prefixed with the word allegedly) or shut up .