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Morecambe_Red 06-10-2013 11:37
John Coleman at The Globe - interview
 
Here is the Morecambe legend giving his views on all sorts of issues :-

Shrimpsvoices ? View topic - John Coleman Interview

cashman 06-10-2013 12:35
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Can understand him being a Morecambe Legend, seeing that Morecambe could never beat a Stanley side managed by him.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

DAV007 06-10-2013 12:42
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'MISSING IT' - 'BADLY'
'DESEPRATE TO GET BACK INTO IT'
'CLIMBING THE WALLS'

Come on Peter Marsden, save our season!

johnc 06-10-2013 12:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1078379)
'MISSING IT' - 'BADLY'
'DESEPRATE TO GET BACK INTO IT'
'CLIMBING THE WALLS'

Come on Peter Marsden, save our season!
I think everybody knows your man love for JC, but you are getting f-in tiresome now

Morecambe_Red 06-10-2013 13:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1078377)
Can understand him being a Morecambe Legend, seeing that Morecambe could never beat a Stanley side managed by him.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

All but a few silly young MFC fans who don't remember hard times in the NPL want Accrington to survive but I think we may have our first win over you since Twiss got 2 goals in September 2005 when we play you this month.

On the subject of legends , "Podge" has made some great strides to become a legend.

DAV007 06-10-2013 13:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnc (Post 1078383)
I think everybody knows your man love for JC, but you are getting f-in tiresome now

fair enough.
But it answers some of the regular moaners on another thread who said Coley may not want to come back when most people knew he would jump at the chance.

Chubbyman 06-10-2013 13:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1078392)
fair enough.
But it answers some of the regular moaners on another thread who said Coley may not want to come back when most people knew he would jump at the chance.
Because no other bloody idiot will give him a league managers job!!!

DAV007 06-10-2013 13:39
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Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1078406)
Because no other bloody idiot will give him a league managers job!!!
has he been offered one?
has he applied for one?
have you asked every league chairman?

please, state facts.
Or can we expect more of your random rants based on nothing but prejudice?

Chubbyman 06-10-2013 13:46
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I'm going for a round of golf and some peace and quiet... DAV007 gives me a headache ... StillI probably give him one!!!

cashman 06-10-2013 14:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1078409)
has he been offered one?
has he applied for one?
have you asked every league chairman?

please, state facts.
Or can we expect more of your random rants based on nothing but prejudice?
Yeh he applied fer the stanley job FACT. ask yerself why somebody yeh say is so wonderful,did NOT get it? Could it be the fact that all the good he did, which was much could not be overlooked, in other words yeh can't paper a turd.:rolleyes:

yerself 06-10-2013 15:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAV007
has he applied for one?
As cashman said he applied for the Stanley job and it's no secret he was interested in the vacancy at Carlisle.

News & Star | Carlisle United | Latest | Ex-Newcastle boss Roeder linked with Carlisle Utd manager's job
Among the other names thought to be keen are former Kilmarnock boss Kenny Shiels and ex-Rochdale and Accrington chief John Coleman.

Former Accrington boss John Coleman keen on Carlisle manager's job | Football News | Sky Sports

Redraine 06-10-2013 16:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Morecambe_Red (Post 1078390)
All but a few silly young MFC fans who don't remember hard times in the NPL want Accrington to survive but I think we may have our first win over you since Twiss got 2 goals in September 2005 when we play you this month.

On the subject of legends , "Podge" has made some great strides to become a legend.
Nice to hear from you again, Morecambe Red. Can always rely on you to post on here with what I always imagine is a smug grin on your face. Still, I have to congratulate the Shrimps on a great win yesterday, which just shows what's possible when you sign good mid fielders in the close season. Oh dear, there I go again, obsessing about our midfield. Better jump off my hobby horse before I drive everyone on here mad.
You will never have a better chance of nailing your hoodoo later this month, but I wouldn't bet on it if I were you!

Morecambe_Red 06-10-2013 17:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 1078428)
Nice to hear from you again, Morecambe Red. Can always rely on you to post on here with what I always imagine is a smug grin on your face. Still, I have to congratulate the Shrimps on a great win yesterday, which just shows what's possible when you sign good mid fielders in the close season. Oh dear, there I go again, obsessing about our midfield. Better jump off my hobby horse before I drive everyone on here mad.
You will never have a better chance of nailing your hoodoo later this month, but I wouldn't bet on it if I were you!
I can assure you its not a smug grin and I want Accrington to finish above the dotted line. I'd much prefer one or preferably two of the "big" clubs to go down rather than a club I see as similar to the Shrimps.

cashman 06-10-2013 17:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Morecambe_Red (Post 1078432)
I can assure you its not a smug grin and I want Accrington to finish above the dotted line. I'd much prefer one or preferably two of the "big" clubs to go down rather than a club I see as similar to the Shrimps.
Good on yer, congrats on a great win yesterday.;)

Tin Monkey 06-10-2013 17:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1078417)
Yeh he applied fer the stanley job FACT. ask yerself why somebody yeh say is so wonderful,did NOT get it?
Because the Board made a mistake and appointed the wrong man?

A JC team wouldn't have such a low goal effort ratio as the current team, that's pretty much a certainty. It's impressive to talk about the newly instilled 'professionalism', but for a tinpot outfit like Stanley, professionalism and fair play are the last thing required for survival. We really need someone who knows all the 'tricks'. Someone who can duck and dive. Someone who you'd hate if you were an opposition fan, but secretly envy and wish they were working for your club. There's only one man for this job, and Davo is quite right.

I don't feel any disrespect for the current manager. He seems a decent and honest human being, who's not ready for a unique situation like that at Accrington. Nobody can blame him for that. The real mistake, in my opinion, was made at the end of last season by people who are not blameless.

football19 06-10-2013 17:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1078417)
Yeh he applied fer the stanley job FACT. ask yerself why somebody yeh say is so wonderful,did NOT get it? Could it be the fact that all the good he did, which was much could not be overlooked, in other words yeh can't paper a turd.:rolleyes:
Tried to stay out of this debate,but can't agree with you Cashy. JC is one of the best results/playing budget managers around,as you say "simple".
He tried his luck at league one level,but it didn't work out,for the same reasons as JB is finding (changing things too quickly).
He has a great knowledge of the game,but he rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way,which fuelled Stanley's success(no one liked playing at the crown ground)
By your comments regarding his interview,you are not fully aware of the facts (which are not for a forum debate).
Saying that,I am fully behind JB,but totally against JCs critisisum,he for me represented everything what Stanley are about,ie; us v everyone else.
PS - was with the scouting fraternity at Wigan today,and we would give both teams a game !!!

cashman 06-10-2013 17:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 1078434)
Because the Board made a mistake and appointed the wrong man?

A JC team wouldn't have such a low goal effort ratio as the current team, that's pretty much a certainty. It's impressive to talk about the newly instilled 'professionalism', but for a tinpot outfit like Stanley, professionalism and fair play are the last thing required for survival. We really need someone who knows all the 'tricks'. Someone who can duck and dive. Someone who you'd hate if you were an opposition fan, but secretly envy and wish they were working for your club. There's only one man for this job, and Davo is quite right.

I don't feel any disrespect for the current manager. He seems a decent and honest human being, who's not ready for a unique situation like that at Accrington. Nobody can blame him for that. The real mistake, in my opinion, was made at the end of last season by people who are not blameless.
I have to strongly disagree,we get little enough gates now n i'm aware of quite a few who would not re-new if he returned.:(

cashman 06-10-2013 17:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by football19 (Post 1078435)
Tried to stay out of this debate,but can't agree with you Cashy. JC is one of the best results/playing budget managers around,as you say "simple".
He tried his luck at league one level,but it didn't work out,for the same reasons as JB is finding (changing things too quickly).
He has a great knowledge of the game,but he rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way,which fuelled Stanley's success(no one liked playing at the crown ground)
By your comments regarding his interview,you are not fully aware of the facts (which are not for a forum debate).
Saying that,I am fully behind JB,but totally against JCs critisisum,he for me represented everything what Stanley are about,ie; us v everyone else.
PS - was with the scouting fraternity at Wigan today,and we would give both teams a game !!!
Would Roscoe De sane be against this criticism?:(

Redraine 06-10-2013 17:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Morecambe_Red (Post 1078432)
I can assure you its not a smug grin and I want Accrington to finish above the dotted line. I'd much prefer one or preferably two of the "big" clubs to go down rather than a club I see as similar to the Shrimps.
I honestly wasn't suggesting you were being smug about our current position. Just the fact that your team is finding a way of playing on which Podge is seemingly thriving.

football19 06-10-2013 17:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1078437)
Would Roscoe De sane be against this criticism?:(
Way over my head that Cashy,need Yonmons help to answer that !!:)

shakermaker 06-10-2013 17:59
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 1078434)
Because the Board made a mistake and appointed the wrong man?

A JC team wouldn't have such a low goal effort ratio as the current team, that's pretty much a certainty. It's impressive to talk about the newly instilled 'professionalism', but for a tinpot outfit like Stanley, professionalism and fair play are the last thing required for survival. We really need someone who knows all the 'tricks'. Someone who can duck and dive. Someone who you'd hate if you were an opposition fan, but secretly envy and wish they were working for your club. There's only one man for this job, and Davo is quite right.

I don't feel any disrespect for the current manager. He seems a decent and honest human being, who's not ready for a unique situation like that at Accrington. Nobody can blame him for that. The real mistake, in my opinion, was made at the end of last season by people who are not blameless.
I was berated for suggesting this when JB was appointed. I've still got the tin hat somewhere, I'll give you a lend.

Back when JC was appointed we had people at the club who knew non-league football inside out. Notwithstanding hearts being in the right place, I'm not convinced anyone on our current board knows football at all.

football19 06-10-2013 18:06
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You weren't eavesdropping mine and Exiles conversation at Newport were you Shaker ??? :)

johnc 06-10-2013 18:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1078436)
I have to strongly disagree,we get little enough gates now n i'm aware of quite a few who would not re-new if he returned.:(
The gates wont change until we start getting better results, the trend is down, but its not exactly falling off a cliff

2006/7 - 2260
2007/8 - 1633
2008/9 - 1415
2009/10 - 1980
2010/11 - 1867
2011/12 - 1784
2012/13 - 1674
2013/14 - 1777

If JC is the man to turn us around then so be it, you support the club whoever is the manager ;)

cashman 06-10-2013 18:22
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Originally Posted by johnc (Post 1078446)

If JC is the man to turn us around then so be it, you support the club whoever is the manager ;)
You might, i certainly did not when those charged wi betting were still selected, :rolleyes: i went up thorneyholme rd n watched the cricket, That was the point J.C. went down in my estimation, so then i took the trouble to do a bit of digging.

Alvin the chipmunk 06-10-2013 19:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 1078443)
I was berated for suggesting this when JB was appointed. I've still got the tin hat somewhere, I'll give you a lend.

Back when JC was appointed we had people at the club who knew non-league football inside out. Notwithstanding hearts being in the right place, I'm not convinced anyone on our current board knows football at all.
Superb post spot on. :) Quite simply....JC knew how to win games. Simple.

cashman 06-10-2013 19:11
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Originally Posted by Alvin the chipmunk (Post 1078454)
Superb post spot on. :) Quite simply....JC knew how to win games. Simple.
Yeh he did, so all else is forgiven/forgotten? am sure glad i aint young any more, morals have gone out the window.:eek:

DAV007 06-10-2013 20:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1078436)
I have to strongly disagree,we get little enough gates now n i'm aware of quite a few who would not re-new if he returned.:(
Rubbish.
I know of lots of people who would return if Coley was put back in charge.
And do you really expect the crowds to come flooding back when we have 2 shots per game and are sitting adrift bottom of the league?


Your comments on this board are representative of a bloke who picks holes in everything but never offers any solutions.
Or have I got that wrong as well?

SamF 06-10-2013 21:07
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1078455)
Yeh he did, so all else is forgiven/forgotten? am sure glad i aint young any more, morals have gone out the window.:eek:
Sorry Cashman but your getting worse that DAV. This 'I know something you don't know' crap is getting old quick - either put up(prefixed with the word allegedly) or shut up .

DAV007 06-10-2013 21:09
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Originally Posted by SamF (Post 1078480)
Sorry Cashman but your getting worse that DAV. This 'I know something you don't know' crap is getting old quick - either put up(prefixed with the word allegedly) or shut up .
he wont, because is it doesn't suit his agenda.

cashman 06-10-2013 22:36
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Originally Posted by SamF (Post 1078480)
Sorry Cashman but your getting worse that DAV. This 'I know something you don't know' crap is getting old quick - either put up(prefixed with the word allegedly) or shut up .
Young and stupid, take the trouble to find things out fer yourself, Thats summat many learn as they mature.

OLDHAMADE 07-10-2013 06:39
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IF you ever had the chance to get Coleman & Bell back at your club you'd be fools not to embrace it regardless of what a few on here think
Your best times were under their leadership and you need some of that right now!

cashman 07-10-2013 09:25
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Originally Posted by OLDHAMADE (Post 1078528)
IF you ever had the chance to get Coleman & Bell back at your club you'd be fools not to embrace it regardless of what a few on here think
Your best times were under their leadership and you need some of that right now!
Well you seem to know all about fools.:rolleyes:

OLDHAMADE 07-10-2013 17:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1078543)
Well you seem to know all about fools.:rolleyes:
Whatever Cashy:sleep8:
Only browse your forum because I actually like your club and loyal support, Anyway hope you find the answer and soon
Would hate for a 'Northern' club to go down:alright:

cashman 07-10-2013 18:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLDHAMADE (Post 1078600)
Whatever Cashy:sleep8:
Only browse your forum because I actually like your club and loyal support, Anyway hope you find the answer and soon
Would hate for a 'Northern' club to go down:alright:
Yer more than welcome, To be honest i'm a bit concerned, but aint hitting the panic button by a way yet.;) The subject yeh mentioned is a Love/Hate thing around these parts ( Don't expect yeh to be aware)

yonmon 08-10-2013 12:42
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I am ambivalent !!.

cashman 08-10-2013 13:30
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Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 1078744)
I am ambivalent !!.
Is it contagious?:D

Redraine 08-10-2013 14:00
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No, but it's been legal for many years now!

yonmon 08-10-2013 16:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1078748)
Is it contagious?:D
I am also vacillating !!.

Exile on Spencer St 08-10-2013 17:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 1078771)
I am also vacillating !!.
Are you sure?

Chimer 08-10-2013 17:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 1078744)
I am ambivalent !!.
Quote:
Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 1078771)
I am also vacillating !!.
I didn't know you could get vacillated against ambivalence ....... :D

yonmon 08-10-2013 19:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chimer (Post 1078786)
I didn't know you could get vacillated against ambivalence ....... :D
In my world which contains a Football Forum where now the possibility of Love/Hate relationships existing are suddenly thrust before my wondering eyes, anything, but anything can happen in your hapless comrades mind !!.
The following quote seems to sum up how I see this alarming development...which I too wasn't aware of !.
"They didn't agree on much. In fact they rarely agreed on anything.
They fought all the time and they challenged each other everyday...
But in spite of their differences,they had one important thing in common,they were crazy about each other.".

Not sure about that last line...but given time who knows ??.

As for JB or JC ...I remain ambivalent !.


( Chimer !.... loved your riposte !).



football19 08-10-2013 19:19
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Wish I had gone to school more ! :)

cashman 08-10-2013 19:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by football19 (Post 1078806)
Wish I had gone to school more ! :)
It wasn't how often yeh went, it was much yeh took notice.;):) Going off the news today, us lot are quite eloquent.:D

ukcowboy 08-10-2013 20:46
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Cashy my friend, im afraid that you sir are the antithesis of eloquent..........yonmon however..........





:):):)

cashman 09-10-2013 08:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ukcowboy (Post 1078813)
Cashy my friend, im afraid that you sir are the antithesis of eloquent..........yonmon however..........





:):):)
I'm also cultured as F.:D

Chimer 09-10-2013 09:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1078841)
I'm also cultured as F.:D
Don't remember reading any of F's posts lately :confused:

cashman 09-10-2013 10:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chimer (Post 1078846)
Don't remember reading any of F's posts lately :confused:
Thats cos the swear checker obliterates.:D

DaveinGermany 09-10-2013 11:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1078808)
t us lot are quite eloquent.:D
Or rather Gobby, take your pick. ;)

jaysay 09-10-2013 17:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1078841)
I'm also cultured as F.:D
Cultured um think the jury's still out on that one cashy:D even with an F:rolleyes:


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