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Seeing as I havent done one in a while.
Im assuming same team as York?? Webber is much better coming off the bench so I would keep him there. |
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probably a keeper on an emergency loan
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Personally i'd leave young Dawber in.
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Didn't think we could get an emergency till Jan 1st??
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Unsure how an emergency loan would work as the club has two fit goalkeepers on the books. Ian is contracted until 2015 so we would have to mutually cancel an 18 month deal (assuming Southport don't part with a fee to cover his contract which won't haplen). Think all parties need to have a sit down and work things out. Can understand Ian's frustration at this time in his career in losing out to a developing player.
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Well hes frustrated the hell out of us fer long enough.:D:D
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Just been up to the Crown all ready for the match. Didn't know it was on tomorrow, doh!
Thought it was looking even quieter than usual. |
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we got belford in , when rachubka got sent off about new year time
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Let's not feel too sorry for the PL teams; most have big enough squads to play every day if Sky told them to. As for Southend, I'm hoping their position in the league means they try and play football, which can often suit Stanley. |
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Final score 1-1, not as good as a win but a damn site better than losing & against the 6th in the league, well done Lads. :)
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Really good game to watch with lots of fast paced back and forth action. Thought Dawber deserved his MOTM award with some stunning saves and confident keeping. Luke Joyce had a fantastic game - back to his best. Pieiro Mingoia brilliant again but that's the norm for him - always tenacious and forward thinking while working for the team (Kal Naismith could take a leaf from his book).
I thought we invited an equaliser through defending too deep all the way through the game. Fair result. |
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Spot on, Shaker. I just have one comment. Richardson..........why? The worst performance in a Stanley shirt I have seen for a long time. He made absolute zero impact on the game, constantly letting their players waltz past him without a semblance of a tackle. What was JB thinking of keeping him on whilst Brown made 3 subs to take control of the game and when our only sub came at last we took off our player most likely to score, keeping the the useless red haired lump on until the end. I'm furious!
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Agree that it was a point well-earned against one of the best teams to visit t'Crown so far this season. From the obvious disappointment on the faces of the Southend Directors and their entourage, they expected to wipe the floor with the Reds......a satisfying sight to see !!...( Sadistic moi ?). Now there's a strong smell of Fish in the air which needs obliterating on New Year's Day !.... so do it Reds !! |
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Well I enjoyed the game, I thought also good for a neutral???
Thought a draw was probably a fair result in the end. Top marks to JB for playing 5 in midfield which nullified the Southend passing game for large periods. Agreed Dawber, Mingoia and Aldred where all excellent. Fair play to young Andrew in goal, in only his second league start. One of his saves really was class. Well done lad. Not sure I agree Joyce was back to his best from 2 years ago, but he is improved that's for sure. Richardson has others have said really was poor. Looks very rusty and im not sure what JB see's in him, total passenger today for me. Im sure his loan is up come January anyway??? Not sure what Hatfield has done wrong?? A proven goalscoring Midfielder and cannot seem to get a sniff. Strange one for me. I said before the game I would settle for a point which is exactly what we got. The unbeaten run goes on. Bring on those trawlermen on NYD !!! Come on the REDS! |
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A really good summary from J.B. imho.
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Followed the game from a sunnier climate !,but unbeaten in three with five points is more than acceptable.
Sounds like we were playing well till we scored!!,and looking at there subs,it looks like Brown threw more forwards on and pinned Acci back. Dawber and Aldreds performance suggests this was the case .must thank Dan for his commentary , felt I was there !! :) |
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Got to say from where I was sat it was a game lacking any quality going forward from either side - fair play to the defence we kept them out well but we created nothing.
We scored a fluke free kick and then played 8 at the back with Bowerman up front (Richardson doesn't count as a player) I would have taken a draw before kick off so fair enough but I cannot understand why we invited so much pressure by playing so deep and with such an incapable player as Richardson up front when we had Webber, Hatfield, McCarten and Windass available... |
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Thought some of Richardsons turns we're good but yes looked rusty! But is it his fault? JB just randomly throws him on against a top 4 side after not playing a game for a long time! Unfair on him for me! Can someone tell me what Will Hatfield has done wrong?! He's one of our best players in the squad and doesn't even get a sniff!! Some of JBs decisions confuse and worry me sometimes!
With Lee on this one with Luke Joyce, not his best game but did ok! Him and Murphy got lost in the last 20 minutes and some of their touches and passing reminded me of our ultras team on a Sunday! Thought Piero was great once again!! He's come on leaps and bounds with playing regular football and is looking a great winger! |
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No matter whether Richardson has played recently or not it doesn't excuse his pathetic work rate. Whilst all the back four plus Joyce , Murphy, Naismith and Mingoia, in particular, were getting stuck in and tackling as if their lives depended on it he was strolling around the pitch like an absolute passenger. I find it incredible that he wasn't substituted at half time when we were still on top and even more incredibly when we were on the rack late in the second half.
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I would have to agree with Redraine.
Maybe he wanted one more look at him before he goes back??? To be fair to the lad I think his natural position is central midfield or the number 10 role behind the front man. Just doesnt seem quite ready for me yet. |
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His natural role is in the stands with the rest of us!
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The difference between the teams yesterday was Phil Brown made substitutes at the right time to put us on the back foot and we ended up trying to hit them on the counter attack as the second half wore on not good enough for the Home team in my eyes.
Too many high balls for my liking not so bad when we had Kayode as he would hold hold and bring others into play but with the current formation it doesn't work has to be ball to feet. Two home games two points and a three game unbeaten run but should have been at least four points from the two home games if we are looking to climb the Table I am afraid. |
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Strange team selection to start with and IMO decisions didnt improve:
Why play Richardson (out wide as well) when he's proved he's not up to this level? Why play Naismith up the middle when he's proved he struggles there? Why play Bowerman at all (sorry just don't see how a team like ours can carry a player who only wants to play when the ball is around the box) and Beattie has admitted he wasn't 100% before the game. Why not make changes when his new system obviously wasn't working, even as soon as half time I thought we were lucky to get a point yesterday and as good as Southend were going forward I thought they were poor at the back and we could have exploited that. Credit to Dawbs, back 4 and Mingoia Hopefull we'll see our best 11 on New Years Day |
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I thought Bowerman did ok, though agreed he didnt look fit. He is alot better with his back to goal and therefore plays better with a partner up top.... BUT with 5 in midfield that wasnt going to happen.
Webber cant last more than 45 minutes so George was probably the best option yesterday. |
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Also thought Bowerman did ok.
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Bowerman looked to be be struggling with fitness but otherwise performed well. He's our best finisher - if the manager thinks he's fit enough to play then he has to start him. Think he made the wrong call there though.
Some of the heckling George got from around the dugout was disgraceful. |
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Thought Shrimpers we're there for the taking yesterday there nothing special!! Could and should have been out of sight long before they scored. As for Richardson thought he'd come on at half time as a sub :( Ref was a plonker all game wrong on most things including the off the ball involving murphy n there number 11 Straker who should have been at least yellow cardd if not sent off just befor half tim.Then theres the throw in that led to their goal should have been our,. To me thats 4 lost home points althou 2 gained over the festive season .
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I also used to sit next to the dugout's but gave up a few years ago and moved to the Clayton End. Full of fool's.
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Bowerman had chest pains during the game,
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He should try following the game on the web site. It's Heart Attack Central as those last few minutes tick by.
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Surprised that you don't give em a good Clitheroe `sorting out` Mark !!....although I would be the last to advocate violence at The Crown !...Is their battle cry still `get it up t`field ?`..now that really does show how little some so called `fans` really know about the game which they watch week in and week out !.... The truth is that booing or running down a player representing your team is possibly the worst form of disrespect that anyone can demonstrate at a Football match , and there is no place for it in the Main Stand at The Crown. So get em Mab !!!. |
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Every ground gets knobheads mab, sod all really yeh can do,apart from insult em.
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Fleetwood stats (from BBC) - Stanley 52% possession, 3 shots (Fleetwood 15) - perhaps "lump it up there and shoot" might have some point to it after all ? :):D:)
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But yeh just lumped it in Southend thread mate.:D
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I thought you'd gone cruising ... :eek: Only here because here's where people were discussing "lump it" comments in the first place :) Fwiw, the Pompey crowd were just as keen on lumping it up the park when I was there last Saturday, and they were watching supposedly high-class :D footy not that long ago. |
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