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smudgie 18-08-2014 17:31

Shrewsbury Town Match Thread.
 
Well this looks yet another tough trip!

Who's in your XI??

Ive actually got no idea!:confused:

cashman 18-08-2014 17:55

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Me i would revert Hunty back to full back, Buxton midfield n start Mingoia.:)

Chubbyman 18-08-2014 21:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1113814)
Me i would revert Hunty back to full back, Buxton midfield n start Mingoia.:)

you'll probably get your wish

Alvin the chipmunk 18-08-2014 23:59

Re: Shrewsbury Town Match Thread.
 
Alabi flatters to decieve and Gray has chocolate ankles and falls under a stiff breeze. I'd go with Hatfield up front. Nver let us down and scores whenever he gets a run in the side. Simpson and Mingoia are obvious starters but as Smudgie says they rest is a mystery!!! :)

FrankMoody 19-08-2014 07:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alvin the chipmunk (Post 1113865)
Alabi flatters to decieve and Gray has chocolate ankles and falls under a stiff breeze. I'd go with Hatfield up front. Nver let us down and scores whenever he gets a run in the side. Simpson and Mingoia are obvious starters but as Smudgie says they rest is a mystery!!! :)

6 league goals in 70-odd appearances would suggest otherwise! Having said that I would play Hatfield, think his work rate and endeavour seems to be undervalued by the manager. Mingioa got to start .
My team
Simpson
Hunt Aldred Winnard Mustoe
Hatfield Joyce (if fit) Buxton Mingioa Naismith
Gray

football19 19-08-2014 09:28

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Cant see Joycy being fit and i have never seen Buxton play in midfield.
Like to see Lids given a chance to play himself into a bit of form.
Wouldn't be un-happy with that team tho Frank

Alvin the chipmunk 19-08-2014 11:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankMoody (Post 1113882)
6 league goals in 70-odd appearances would suggest otherwise! Having said that I would play Hatfield, think his work rate and endeavour seems to be undervalued by the manager. Mingioa got to start .
My team
Simpson
Hunt Aldred Winnard Mustoe
Hatfield Joyce (if fit) Buxton Mingioa Naismith
Gray



Not may runs in the side though so appearance/goals ratios don't tell the story Remember 18 x 5 minute cameos equates to one full game. As well he has often been played, wrongly in my eyes, in midfield. Always looks dangerous when he plays and as you say his work rate means he contributes even when he doesn't bag...which I don't think the other striking options do.

FrankMoody 19-08-2014 11:10

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[QUOTE=Alvin the chipmunk;1113897]
Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankMoody (Post 1113882)
6 league goals in 70-odd appearances would suggest otherwise! Having said that I would play Hatfield, think his work rate and endeavour seems to be undervalued by the manager. Mingioa got to start .
My team
Simpson
Hunt Aldred Winnard Mustoe
Hatfield Joyce (if fit) Buxton Mingioa Naismith
Gray[/QU

Not may runs in the side though so appearance/goals ratios don't tell the story Remember 18 x 5 minute cameos equates to one full game. As well he has often been played, wrongly in my eyes, in midfield. Always looks dangerous when he plays and as you say his work rate means he contributes even when he doesn't bag...which I don't think the other striking options do.

Ok 5 league goals (thought it was 6) in 40-odd starts ignoring any sub appearances still suggests his goal return is not as good as any of the forwards. Anyway as I said I like Hatfield but he is not a forward. Incidentally you don't think Gray for one works hard and contributes when he's not scoring?? Do you sit behind an obstruction ?

Exile on Spencer St 19-08-2014 12:02

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'Fishy' site implies Messrs Joyce and Buxton may not be fit, which reduces midfield options.
I agree with F19 and would like to see Mr. Liddle given a game, probably at left back. He appears to be a natural left-footed and is one of the few players who can tackle and, I would like to think, wouldn't do any worse than Saturday's efforts.
Being awarded a penalty is a pretty rare event for Stanley so I only hope they get another tonight and Mr Naismith buries the ball, and the keeper if necessary, in the back of the net.

cashman 19-08-2014 12:20

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I'm hoping we can beat em tonight without a penalty, have no wish to see that again.:eek:

Revived Red 19-08-2014 12:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankMoody (Post 1113882)
6 league goals in 70-odd appearances would suggest otherwise! Having said that I would play Hatfield, think his work rate and endeavour seems to be undervalued by the manager. Mingioa got to start .
My team
Simpson
Hunt Aldred Winnard Mustoe
Hatfield Joyce (if fit) Buxton Mingioa Naismith
Gray

After his performance on Saturday, it would be very difficult to omit Atkinson. And I think Bowerman should be given a chance. He seems to me to be made of sterner stuff than Gray.

cashman 19-08-2014 12:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1113910)
After his performance on Saturday, it would be very difficult to omit Atkinson. And I think Bowerman should be given a chance. He seems to me to be made of sterner stuff than Gray.

Can't argue wi that.:)

Alvin the chipmunk 19-08-2014 13:27

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[QUOTE=FrankMoody;1113898]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alvin the chipmunk (Post 1113897)

Ok 5 league goals (thought it was 6) in 40-odd starts ignoring any sub appearances still suggests his goal return is not as good as any of the forwards. Anyway as I said I like Hatfield but he is not a forward. Incidentally you don't think Gray for one works hard and contributes when he's not scoring?? Do you sit behind an obstruction ?


Maybe so. But the number of moves he breaks up by throwing himself to the floor outweighs this imo. Frustrating as he's a talented lad.

Hope springs eternal. Just backed us to win 3-0 at 50/1.:D

cashman 19-08-2014 13:41

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Good man Alvin, I backed em but only fer the win.;)

football19 19-08-2014 14:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1113910)
After his performance on Saturday, it would be very difficult to omit Atkinson. And I think Bowerman should be given a chance. He seems to me to be made of sterner stuff than Gray.

RR difficult one that.
Who do you drop as three at the back requires experienced wing-backs,and we don't have any !!.
Even man utd struggled on Saturday with that system as they dont have that type of player.
Its a tricky one,but common sense tells me play a tried and tested defence and go from there,ie Hunty,Dean,Tom,Lids

Redraine 19-08-2014 16:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1113904)
I agree with F19 and would like to see Mr. Liddle given a game, probably at left back. He appears to be a natural left-footed and is one of the few players who can tackle

Very good point. I'm not a fan of this "holding up" of advancing attackers that seems to be in vogue. It usually ends up with the attacker leaving the defender sprawling and the attacker advancing into the penalty area for a shot, cross and even a penalty!

andyd 19-08-2014 17:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1113910)
After his performance on Saturday, it would be very difficult to omit Atkinson. And I think Bowerman should be given a chance. He seems to me to be made of sterner stuff than Gray.

I totally agree with injuries this is my team for tonight:-

Simpson
Hunt Aldred Atkinson Winnard

Windass

Hatfield Mustoe

Naismith Bowerman Mingoia


Subs:-
Lynch
Goulding
Carver
MCcartan
Martin
Gray
Alibi

Lemur 19-08-2014 18:14

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teams are in few changes there's no buxton, kal drop to bench bowerman in

smudgie 19-08-2014 18:19

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Stanley: Simpson; Hunt, Winnard, Aldred, Mustoe; Mingoia, Joyce, Windass, Hatfield; Gray, Bowerman.


Subs
Lynch, Goulding, Atkinson, McCartan, Naismith, Carver, Alabi.

andyd 19-08-2014 18:55

Re: Shrewsbury Town Match Thread.
 
1-0 down already afraid we are chasing another game.

Chimer 19-08-2014 19:03

Re: Shrewsbury Town Match Thread.
 
Mangan. Could have bet on it :mad:

andyd 19-08-2014 19:35

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3-0 down Simpson sent off

andyd 19-08-2014 19:37

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We will be bottom tonight worst start than last year not looking good even so early.

Tommy McQueen 19-08-2014 19:44

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And next two games looking very dodgy to say the least.

Tommy McQueen 19-08-2014 19:45

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Mangantonight and a certain Mr S Whalley on Sat

andyd 19-08-2014 20:14

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4-0 big job now for Beats to lift this lot maybe some new faces on board might help.

Chewbacca 19-08-2014 21:44

Re: Shrewsbury Town Match Thread.
 
Still, only one point from the safety zone.

Div3North 19-08-2014 22:21

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And we've lost to the teams currently 8th, 6th and 3rd, who have - respectively - 6, 7 and 7 points ......Luton have won once, drawn one and lost 2 (counting the Cup game) and might be a different proposition

DAV007 19-08-2014 22:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Div3North (Post 1113981)
And we've lost to the teams currently 8th, 6th and 3rd, who have - respectively - 6, 7 and 7 points ......Luton have won once, drawn one and lost 2 (counting the Cup game) and might be a different proposition

I agree, but we have got to attack Luton from the off, the weakest part of their team is the defence.

Chubbyman 19-08-2014 23:05

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Just got back the officials a total joke ....Ist goal handball,2nd goal keeper fouled ref gave it other way ...penalty goalie red card,3rd goal handball
and even worse DAV nearly got the score right

cashman 19-08-2014 23:14

Re: Shrewsbury Town Match Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1113984)
I agree, but we have got to attack Luton from the off, the weakest part of their team is the defence.

Thats fer sure no question, Tonight was a very poor display, no passion or desire to be first to the ball. once again NO MAN on the post fer corners, and why we persist in punting the ball high to a forward line of short arses is beyond me?:( Saying that the game was once again destroyed by useless officials, The first goal Mangan handled no question, Our keeper was then sent off fer nowt more than a 50/50, of which the shrews forward commited the first offence, the third another handball i couldn't sodding believe what i was watching.:mad: In the second half the Shrews eventually scored a cracker against a tiring 10 men, Carver came on n showed more determination in his short time than Gray had all match.:mad:

Exile on Spencer St 20-08-2014 06:20

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Sounded dreadful, but every team gets, and gives, a 4-0 every season. Let's hope that's Stanley's drubbing out of the way.
Interesting Mr.Beattie talked about things going on at the club this week...any ideas to what he was referring?

smobile 20-08-2014 06:36

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Probably not been paid again....................

cashman 20-08-2014 07:24

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Think he was referring to some theiving scrotes nicking all the players boots,we heard they played in borrowed uns last night?:confused:

Stanleyboy 20-08-2014 07:26

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Bad news if not being paid again so early in the season. Putting 2+2 together I thought the same tbh. Doesn't bode well for more loan signings either. A season that started with such optimism :-(

AccyMad 20-08-2014 07:43

Re: Shrewsbury Town Match Thread.
 
Don't suppose there's any point appealing against Luke Simpson's red card? With our luck with refs we'd probably lose the appeal & end up with a fine or another game added to his suspension!

lancsdave 20-08-2014 07:51

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[QUOTE=Stanleyboy;1113996 Putting 2+2 together I thought the same tbh. [/QUOTE]

The maths are wrong :)

football19 20-08-2014 08:17

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Got to agree with Cashy,but watched the goals this morning and there even worse than i thought !!
The first the keeper really should deal with the back pass,but it was handball,indeed his arm was above his head !!.
For me though the left back was on the ball,under no pressure and just turned and put Tom under pressure.
The second was a joke,the ball went back to the keeper,who came for it and it bounced over his head !!.it was a penalty but not a sending off as Tom was goal side.
The third,from a corner,Tom seemed to get under the ball,but the lad controlled it with his arm and volleyed it in -- its handball,simple.
The fourth again was preventable,Hunty was out of position and got skinned,but to be fair the cross was good,but the left back will be disappointed he reacted slowly and could of dealt with it.
The negatives - We just opened the game up from the start going 4-4-2 and played with width (Hatfield isn't a winger )
Gray and Bowerman just doesnt work.
The positives - The lads gave everything they had in the second half (in terms of effort)
Joycy did ok and the young keeper as well.
For me though, the spine of the team has been ripped out,is simpson,windass and grey as effective as Benotelli,murph and Kayo ?,for me,that needs addressing

cashman 20-08-2014 09:24

Re: Shrewsbury Town Match Thread.
 
We need a fighter/mixer in midfield no question at all to me, Procky was never a big favourite of mine, but thats the job he did well.

Chubbyman 20-08-2014 09:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1114004)
We need a fighter/mixer in midfield no question at all to me, Procky was never a big favourite of mine, but thats the job he did well.

Do you want me to hijack him at the golf club and throw him out at the training ground golf clubs and all? Trouble is all the bloody boots have been stolen,still golf shoes have studs?

cashman 20-08-2014 09:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1114006)
Do you want me to hijack him at the golf club and throw him out at the training ground golf clubs and all? Trouble is all the bloody boots have been stolen,still golf shoes have studs?

Now that is a good idea,:DCos hes boots won't have been nicked?

Alvin the chipmunk 20-08-2014 12:59

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There is no shape to the side at all. At times last night we chased the ball in packs like they tell you not to do at school. You can argue about bad refereeing until the cows come home but giving him those decisions to make was self inflicted.

Last season we had the spine of Bettenelli...Aldred...Murphy...and Odejayi running through the middle of the team. 3/4 of that has gone now and I think we are missing them more than we possibly thought.

The lack of width seriously worries me....no out and out wingers.

Last seasons 12 match winless streak we were very unlucky and kept getting beat in auspicious circumstances....ie batterering Burton and them scoring in the 95th. This season so far...bar 10 minutes at Leeds.....we have been bullied and battered all over the shop. Cheltenham and Southend comfortably did a number on us too and could have had many more

In conclusion...need a target man, a midfield hatchet man and an out and out winger.

Positives. Mr Lynch did well on his debut...no chance with the goals.

cashman 20-08-2014 13:04

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Were is anyone arguing about bad refs Alvin?:confused:just stating fact, they were crap unless you think otherwise.:rolleyes:

cashman 20-08-2014 13:26

Re: Shrewsbury Town Match Thread.
 
Just read the "Blue and Amber" Board, the Shrews fans have a better opinion of our performance than i do, Fair play to em.

choirboy 20-08-2014 13:30

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Quelle catastrophe!:mad:
Picking up my season ticket tomorrow so I will be watching the 'new team' for the first time since last season on saturday.
Reserving further comment until I have watched them play.
hope my presence will make the difference on saturday....toot toot.....

cashman 20-08-2014 13:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1114050)
Quelle catastrophe!:mad:
Picking up my season ticket tomorrow so I will be watching the 'new team' for the first time since last season on saturday.
Reserving further comment until I have watched them play.
hope my presence will make the difference on saturday....toot toot.....

So thats whats missing? welcome back.:D;)

football19 20-08-2014 13:57

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Agree Alvin,Lynch was tidy,good starting positions and make some decent saves.
What also sticks out is the general lack of pace.Having this turns 50/50s into 60/40s,and they dominated the second balls by getting there quicker.
would try 4-3-3 on saturday and play Tom/Rob in middle,dean and Lids fullbacks.
Bit of fight in there,Joycy ,windass,hunty in middle and Naismith ,Grey and,Mingolia up top.

cashman 20-08-2014 14:20

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I too thought Lynch did quite well,not too sure about Gray, He wasn't at the races last night, would try Carver meself.

Exile on Spencer St 20-08-2014 15:53

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Have always thought that any player who has time to throw up both arms is more than likely a diver-diva.

Redraine 20-08-2014 17:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1114086)
Have always thought that any player who has time to throw up both arms is more than likely a diver-diva.

He's been watching Arjen Robben, the maestro of diving!
As Football 19 has said, Tom would have dealt with him, anyway, so not a sending off.

cashman 20-08-2014 17:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 1114100)
He's been watching Arjen Robben, the maestro of diving!
As Football 19 has said, Tom would have dealt with him, anyway, so not a sending off.

Aye correct, the way we saw it was the striker fouled our keeper first as well.:mad: A shrews fan told us that ref had charge of one of their friendlies n was completly useless that day, they were just happy it was us he was useless for last night.

Exile on Spencer St 20-08-2014 18:57

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[QUOTE=cashman;1113988] ...Saying that the game was once again destroyed by useless officials,

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1114108)
A shrews fan told us that ref had charge of one of their friendlies n was completly useless that day, they were just happy it was us he was useless for last night.

Shrewsbury Town v Accrington Stanley videos, stats and reports
How could any ref or linesman that wasn't blind or stupid not see the first goal was handball?

cashman 20-08-2014 19:06

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[QUOTE=Exile on Spencer St;1114117]
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1113988)
...Saying that the game was once again destroyed by useless officials,



Shrewsbury Town v Accrington Stanley videos, stats and reports
How could any ref or linesman that wasn't blind or stupid not see the first goal was handball?

What went on last night,makes me seriously wonder about backhanders, I said unbelievable the evidence proves i wasn't joking.:mad: Watch the penalty incident. the 3rd aint as easy to distinguish,but that was handball also from our position right in front of it.:mad:


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