Paint pot Attendance: 818 (with 282 from cufc)
 

Surely with some better advertising and perhaps a gamble at £5 a ticket....the Clayton End could have created a 12th man tonight and helped Stanley on to the 2nd round of the JPT???

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at £5 a ticket it would need a crowd of 1636 to take the same money and I doubt that would have happened.

I don't think it would improve the atmosphere that much either as the Clayton End seems to be a lot quieter now than in previous seasons fior whatever reason.

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Because of the clubs continued approach to burying it's head in the sand on such issues as over zealous stewarding and strict interpretation of rules.

Don't let anyone be fooled, there is one reason for the decline in the Clayton End and that reason is the club.

As for the tin pot trophy, it has had little to no publicity due to the football deadline day and has been in decline for years.
The FA should do the honourable thing and kill it.

Re: Paint pot Attendance: 818 (with 282 from cufc)
 

I wonder if I could persuade the FA into doing the same honourable thing to you!!!!

Re: Paint pot Attendance: 818 (with 282 from cufc)
 

Which of the rules would you like them to ignore ?

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I was really shocked with that attendance. I wanted to go but ran out of money defiantly on Saturday.

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Dav007

Quick question; why would the FA want to "kill off" a FL competition??

Plus the finalists get a trip to Wembley plus around £250k in sponsorship + gate recepits.

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Don't expect a quick answer.:rolleyes:

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In reality Stanley's gate probably holds up well in this competition. I bet if you took the time to look at all the others, the majority would be below 50% of the normal 'league' home gate.

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4029 at Deepdale ( PNE ) with Adults at a Fiver , reductions for S/T holders and concessions starting from £1 !

So the Preston faithful was down by around 70% on the night despite those attractive price cuts .

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The FA should either back the tin pot trophy and increase its exposure, maybe give the tv rights to a terrestrial broadcaster, increase prize money, subsidise entrance fees, etc
Or
They should kill it as at the moment most teams use it to give their reserves a run out until the late rounds.

Personally, they should kill it.
It is a joke trophy, embarrassing seeing Wembley 1/4 full in March for the final, and most football fans never mind the general public couldn't tell you who recently won it, when the final was played, etc.
It's a reserve team cup.

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Without looking it up, Davo, can you tell me who won the FA cup for the last five seasons? I've no idea, but that doesn't diminish it's importance.

It is the fact that the FA are desparate to recoup any amount of money to help offset the debts of Wembley that the play-off finals, and the Paint Pot and other competitions are played there. Obviously a good league ground, preferbaly not in London, would better suit most lower league teams and fans, but getting to Wembley, however empty it may be to an accountant, is still an ambition to cherish.

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DAV007,

I ask again; what is the Football League Trophy (sponsored by Johnstones Paint) to do with the Football Assocation??

All the things you go on about at Football League initiatives; some games are televised; there is prize money and there is a maximum price in place, there is a rule on team strength.

Yet you want the FA to kill a FL competition!!!

Even Sepp Blatter isn't that power mad!!!;)

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Dav, why would Accrington Stanley want to back an idea that scraps the competition that provides us with the most realistic chance of winning some silverware in any given season?

Talk to fans of Wrexham, Grimsby, Macclesfield, Bristol Rovers, etc and they'd bite your hand off for being able to compete in the JPT

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No they wouldnt.

Re: Paint pot Attendance: 818 (with 282 from cufc)
 

Flat statement, flat contradiction ...... bound to be personal abuse next .....

Re: Paint pot Attendance: 818 (with 282 from cufc)
 

Maybe I didn't make my point clear enough.

Playing in the JPT last night means that your club is in League 1 or 2. Fans of Grimsby etc would gladly swap their Conference status for Football League status.

Or then again, maybe they wouldn't!

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When has Wembley ever been just 1/4 full for a final in this competition? Have they added extra capacity taht we dont know about as the crowds look decent for this level of competition given the prices at Wembley

List of Football League Trophy winners - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Last time I went to a final in this competition it was the Sherpa Van final and only 80000 fans bothered to go.

I wouldn't care if Wembley only opened one section for us, if it was the chance to see Stanley at Wembley I, and probably many others would be there like a shot happilly paying the ridiculous amount they charge.

Some teams might not have many fans but the chance to watch them at Wembley is special and rare unless you're a Carlisle or Stevenage fan due to mickey mouse competitions :D

Re: Paint pot Attendance: 818 (with 282 from cufc)
 

Well Wembley was less than half full tonight fer n England match, so 1/4 full fer one of these finals is pretty good,using that yardstick.;)

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On the assumption that was 1998 both subs for one team ended up at Stanley :)

Re: Paint pot Attendance: 818 (with 282 from cufc)
 

You mean 1988 and yes with one liked far more than the other :D

Re: Paint pot Attendance: 818 (with 282 from cufc)
 

Yep I did mean 1988. Was a great day out even if the result was bad, which proves the point, it doesn't matter what the occasion, it still matters to the fans :)

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Of course, they would be happy to be in the football league, But they wouldnt care a damn about the JPT.

You where explicitly talking about the JPT, not league status, so my point remains valid.

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Would imagine most small clubs welcome the paint pot n stuff, due to the fact no-ones got reserve sides these days, its a good chance to give people a run out in match conditions?

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Agree with Dav007, it's a pointless competition which stretches the footballing resources of a club as small as ours. Unless it's given decent exposure , hyped up a bit and took more seriously then I see no point. Players and most fans in England really don't have much enthusiasm towards this cup. This used to be the same with the league cup but the fact it's exposure on tv is now massive and big clubs are in the pot there is more insentive for players and fans alike! 2 cups for a first team squad is enough with including the football league for a club like us.

Everyone has an opinion but I see it pointless and an unnecessary expense for a lot of fans.