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choirboy 10-10-2014 20:40

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More of the same will do for me!:alright:
It was FABULOUS to see The FLAGS come out with The ULTRAS at the last last home match and I hope that we can show the same level of support for John, Jimmy and the Team tomorrow.:thumbsup: :cheers: :thumbsup:

That level of support is so important to the players and we can definitely be their "Twelfth Man".:):):):):):):):):):):) :hothothot!

As loyal supporters we need to sustain the momentum, Keep the Faith, and urge our team on to achieve even greater things!:alc:
11th place in division Two now and let's hope that our great form continues and we can move up the table a bit further!:mosher:

It's great to see us at the top of "The Form Table" as Redraine highlighted!:hothothot

Bring some friends and family on tomorrow and let's swell the gate and continue the famous story that is "ACCRINGTON STANLEY..... THE CLUB THAT WOULD NOT DIE!":theband:

ON STANLEY ON:wave8:

choirboy 10-10-2014 20:44

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ON STANLEY ON!:wave8:

KEEP THE FAITH!:theband::theband:

cashman 10-10-2014 21:12

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3Pts please Stanley.:)

cashman 11-10-2014 16:18

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Done by diabolical officials Stanley scored a good equalizer approx 15 mins from time, not given, the ball defo crossed the line, no question at all, Dave In Germany had it on film n shown us all.:mad: was talking to 2 members on way out, who were stood at the side right behind the liner n both said it crossed n if they could see it, why could this knobhead not?:mad:

Outback Ozzy 11-10-2014 16:23

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Having just returned from the match, all I can say is how on earth did we lose that match (apart from the 2 sloppy goals we gave away)! I am not sure what the ref and his assistant were watching, but it certainly wasn't that match. I am certain JC will say that we should have won 6 or 7 -2 but for some lucky or inspired goalkeeping in keeping the ball out of the net, yet on one occasion, it looked as though the ball had gone over the line and then cleared by a defender, oh for goal line technology! Crowd was allegedly 1412 but I am sure there was more than that. i would love to know how they account for that figure. To play that well and get beat is no disgrace to Stanley, but Sean Maguire needs to learn to cross rather than shoot when other are in a better position. Plus how come when Aaron Chapman was injured no extra time was added, should have been two and half minutes added to the added on time, but none was given. Hope it is not too serious and he is back playing with us soon.

Redraine 11-10-2014 16:25

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1120470)
Done by diabolical officials Stanley scored a good equalizer approx 15 mins from time, not given, the ball defo crossed the line, no question at all, Dave In Germany had it on film n shown us all.:mad: was talking to 2 members on way out, who were stood at the side right behind the liner n both said it crossed n if they could see it, why could this knobhead not?:mad:

I suppose we'll never get the chance to see it - no replays on TV in div.2.
Apart from that I thought we played very well, especially in the first half, when 1-2 never looked a possibility. However, we gave away the initiative after half time and 2 breakaway goals left us chasing the game with increasing frustration all round. I'm not too disappointed as more often than not that level of performance would be enough to secure 3 points.

cashman 11-10-2014 16:31

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Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 1120473)
I suppose we'll never get the chance to see it - no replays on TV in div.2.
Apart from that I thought we played very well, especially in the first half, when 1-2 never looked a possibility. However, we gave away the initiative after half time and 2 breakaway goals left us chasing the game with increasing frustration all round. I'm not too disappointed as more often than not that level of performance would be enough to secure 3 points.

Agree, i hope coleman demands to see it. Have just been reading the commentary Sam Robinson says the ball NEVER crossed the line, Tell him to go to SPECSAVERS quickly.:D

mab 11-10-2014 18:11

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Would that be when the ball hit the roof of the net and some how bounced the otherside of the line and then cleared :eek: Officals! Offically CRAP as usual :(

FrankMoody 11-10-2014 18:28

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Bit surprised people are blaming the officials, we got what we deserved on.our 2nd half performance.

Moly, Kal and McGuire didn't come out for the 2nd half and Osullivan looked really dangerous but very little end product.

Another surprise is that Gray sat on the bench until last 15, and Windass for that matter. It was cryng out for a change after 50 minutes.

cashman 11-10-2014 18:55

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Disagree Frank nobody deserves a good goal disallowed. Who should we blame? the fans that witnessed it or the guy that filmed it?

shakermaker 11-10-2014 19:00

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Bright start but didn't deserve the win in the end. Relaxed too much at 1-0 while Dagenham altered their shape in order to out-run Procter and Joyce. At 1-1 we should have brought on Barry to match their midfield, but we remained static and were again guilty of leaving huge gaps, defended poorly (from front to back) and duly conceded a second.

O'Sullivan had a stinker, which didn't help when we were chasing the game. Hopefully he'll learn quickly about positioning and game management in the football league. The sponsors must have been on acid to pick him as MotM.

Gutted about Chapman. As Coley says, more disappointing than losing 3 points. Get well soon.

cashman 11-10-2014 19:10

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Whats the score wi Chapman shaker? hope the guys not too bad.:eek:

shakermaker 11-10-2014 19:12

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Rumour is either a broken ankle or leg. Straight to hospital after the game apparently.

cashman 11-10-2014 19:14

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Hope not poor sod.:(

lancsmatt 11-10-2014 19:25

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Would love to see the footage of the goal that wasn't as from where I was it didn't look in at all, and the players didn't seem that convinced in their appeals either. Haven't been on for a while as I tend to work Saturdays and Tuesday I can't get across in time, but plenty of positives, just one of those days I guess.
Gutted for chapman thought he looked great, although just a quick defence of the ref there from the earlier post re injury time, when chapman went down we'd already played all but 30 secs of injury time, so he was perfectly right to not add anymore time on but just play that 30 secs (in effect we 'played' about 7 mins injury. Hope it isn't as serious as it seems.
Onward and upward, hopefully just a blip!

Redraine 11-10-2014 20:26

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Not often you see such an honest view from the opposition!

"SUSSEX DAGGER » Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:13 pm

We won,how I don't know Stanley were the better throughout and once again I want it explained to me how anybody ever thought the Clown at anytime better the Mark Cousins. COUSINS was outstanding in our goal and he won us the game with two stunning second half saves.

Would also like it explained how Billy was dropped to the bench,we were crying out first half for somebody to get on the bloody ball.

First half we were completely over ran in midfield and it was a simply shocking first half display. The two full backs were dreadfull, the right back did not look interested and the left back did not look up to it.

The team and Management left the pitch first half and we're left in no doubt to what a large percentage of Daggers who made the journey spending hard earnt money on a team that did not look interested.

Second half we were slightly better and the young lad did very very we'll for both goals and took them superbly, however the fact remains we were second best throughout and if it was not for COUSINS and the cross bar which was struck twice we would not have won anything.

Good result, two good goals from a talent that looks a real rough diamond and will surely prove to be the best bit of money we have spent in many a moon and a outstanding display from the Goalkeeper but the rest was pretty disappointing to be honest."

choirboy 11-10-2014 20:42

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What a game of TWO HALVES.:confused:
In the first half I thought that Stanley played some super football and really deserved a two goal cushion at half time. There was a welcome return to some lovely trademark passing play that Jimmy and John had the team playing a few years ago. The goal was the result of a great build up albeit with the final 'pass' from Cal being a totaly fluffed shot but it was a well taken finish!:mosher:
The second half started badly as some of our players seemed to think that we were going to win at a canter. Nicky Hunt let their goal scorer simply waltz straight inside for the first Daggers goal and Chapman had no chance as the ball curled right into the bottom corner. We then failed to take the initiative and never managed to get any decent possion and lo and behold, virtually the same thing happened for their second goal.
The team did try hard to lift the tempo for the final twenty minutes and Tom Aldred could easily have a had a hatrick of headed goals with just a bit more luck.:idunno: The header that came down off the crossbar was difficult for me to judge, as I was behind the goal on The Clayton End, but some of our fans walking off at the end seemed to think it had dropped down over the line before it was cleared!...?:surprise:
I have to agree that the referee was poor. He was a mystery to me too? Throw ins were frequently given the wrong way, as were some corner/goal kick decisions. Daggers also got away with a number of late tackles that left Procky somewhat in the wars! He stopped play for fouls when he could have clearly played the advantage!?:stupid::swear8::signwier:
The Daggers goal lead a charmed life for the last twenty minutes or so.
However, we did get some great play going down the wings and from the right wing especially, two or three times we should have been pulling the ball back towards the penalty spot but our lads chose to shoot at tight angles on their near post!
I still cannot believe that we lost that match today. Teams like Dagenham are the sort that we need to send home empty handed when we play them at home. Like one or two others around me I think that we could have used our subs more effectively. There was only thirteen minutes left on the clock when Gray came on and perhaps we should have brought him on with 25 to go with Carver or Hatfield or Pierro also given a chance to change the way we attacked near the end?
Hey ho! If we can play the full ninety minutes like we did for the majority of the first half then we can be a force to be reckoned with this season. Just needs more consistency of application throughout the whole match really.
ON STANLEY ON:theband:
KEEP THE FAITH:wave8:

choirboy 11-10-2014 20:48

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ps. I do hope that the keeper Chapman is not seriously injured. Even from The Clayton End it looked like he fell very awkwardly.....Ouch!!! He looks like a really good prospect for the future.

AccyMad 11-10-2014 21:26

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Agree with Choirboy about Pierro, if only we had had the luxury of bringing him on but he wasn't even on the bench! Apart from that same old same old - no chuffin plan B when we go behind! O'Sullivan should've been subbed long before it happened - another example of a Coley favourite??

cashman 11-10-2014 21:45

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Subs on too late imho. simples.

AccyMad 11-10-2014 21:52

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1120553)
Subs on too late imho. simples.

No change there then from the football genius? :rolleyes:

Revived Red 11-10-2014 22:36

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Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1120550)
Agree with Choirboy about Pierro, if only we had had the luxury of bringing him on but he wasn't even on the bench! Apart from that same old same old - no chuffin plan B when we go behind! O'Sullivan should've been subbed long before it happened - another example of a Coley favourite??

This is a huge worry. I bet Piero is absolutely gutted. I just cannot understand the manager saying that we needed more cover in midfield. We started the season with Joyce, Mingoia, Naismith, Hatfield and Windass along with the oddity of Hunt and/or Buxton. We then added Proccy. Then Maguire and O'Sullivan arrived. And Moly. And now Barry. How many midfielders do we need? It now looks as though we shall not see Josh Windass develop in the way that was starting to show promise. And it also looks as though Piero will be left out in the cold altogether. I realise that O'Sullivan and Maguire had rave reports after the Northampton game but I have seen little from them since then. The huge difference between Piero and some of the new additions is that he is a team player. Given some of today's situations, there is no doubt that he would have played the ball back to someone better positioned.

It was interesting to see/hear Tom Aldred giving O'Sullivan a piece of his mind.

It now seems that we are so overloaded with midfielders that we have to use one as a striker - while having four strikers on the bench.:confused:

Chubbyman 12-10-2014 07:40

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Totally baffled why Carver played no part....in my eyes for the 60 minutes he played in the last game he was man of the match.Never stopped running and won a penalty from a lost cause,threw his weight around and caused mayhem.As for Beattie leaving subbing late....Coley just didn't respond to what was changing in the game....a definite 2 points lost but their goalie was outstanding...but I suppose that's football,we won 1-0 the other week and should have lost 4-1...still a good squad and plenty to build on but a few need to realize it's a team game and sometimes the simple pass is best.

Outback Ozzy 12-10-2014 12:01

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Originally Posted by lancsmatt (Post 1120511)
Gutted for chapman thought he looked great, although just a quick defence of the ref there from the earlier post re injury time, when chapman went down we'd already played all but 30 secs of injury time, so he was perfectly right to not add anymore time on but just play that 30 secs (in effect we 'played' about 7 mins injury. Hope it isn't as serious as it seems.
Onward and upward, hopefully just a blip!

Surely the point is that we had played 3 mins 30 seconds of the 4 minutes of injury time, and yet a player is injured, which takes a good couple of minutes to resolve! Surely this means there should have been time added to the injury time for a further injury. There is no point in saying he played another 30 seconds or so before the final whistle and that 'in effect' played 7 minutes, we didn't, we only played 4 minutes and nothing given for the Chapman injury!:mad:

deeayess 12-10-2014 12:26

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Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 1120617)
Surely the point is that we had played 3 mins 30 seconds of the 4 minutes of injury time, and yet a player is injured, which takes a good couple of minutes to resolve! Surely this means there should have been time added to the injury time for a further injury. There is no point in saying he played another 30 seconds or so before the final whistle and that 'in effect' played 7 minutes, we didn't, we only played 4 minutes and nothing given for the Chapman injury!:mad:

I'm with lancsmatt on this one. You would be right if the injury had been in normal time but that was over. There were 4 mins added and 3 and a half played so there would only be 30 secs left even if the stoppage for the keeper had lasted 20 minutes.

In your scenario if we are a goal down and only 30 secs injury time left then we could gain more time by going down injured. A great tactic if we could get away with it :D.

yonmon 12-10-2014 13:10

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Agree about the substitutions, but did I detect some complacency existing in the team after half time ?. This seemed apparent particularly in the defence which to my eyes saw little wrong with allowing D and R's right side attacker to make his runs, until the ball was in the net !.
Stanley were favourites, they bossed the first half, so why allow a somewhat laissez faire attitude to creep into their play ?, which, incidentally as it invariably does, gave an unexpected boost to their opponents !.
I'm more than certain that JC will already in no uncertain terms have reminded his players that football is a 90 minutes game !.
But like most on our forum , I have seen too many points dropped through over-complacency over the years, not to voice my concern in the matter !.
Still, I saw much to be confident about in the football played by the Reds, and Alfred.E (who sneaked on disguised as BC !) says that like me , in spite of the result, he actually enjoyed the game !.

andyd 12-10-2014 15:22

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Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 1120627)
Agree about the substitutions, but did I detect some complacency existing in the team after half time ?. This seemed apparent particularly in the defence which to my eyes saw little wrong with allowing D and R's right side attacker to make his runs, until the ball was in the net !.
Stanley were favourites, they bossed the first half, so why allow a somewhat laissez faire attitude to creep into their play ?, which, incidentally as it invariably does, gave an unexpected boost to their opponents !.
I'm more than certain that JC will already in no uncertain terms have reminded his players that football is a 90 minutes game !.
But like most on our forum , I have seen too many points dropped through over-complacency over the years, not to voice my concern in the matter !.
Still, I saw much to be confident about in the football played by the Reds, and Alfred.E (who sneaked on disguised as BC !) says that like me , in spite of the result, he actually enjoyed the game !.

Shame in front of our biggest home contlngent this season 1335 hope they come back as not a bad game to watch but we need to win home games if we are going to be at the right end of the table come May, we seem to lack the killer instinct in front of goal at home we could have been out of sight at half time if we start to stick them in the onion bag.

yonmon 12-10-2014 20:53

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Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1120643)
Shame in front of our biggest home contlngent this season 1335 hope they come back as not a bad game to watch but we need to win home games if we are going to be at the right end of the table come May, we seem to lack the killer instinct in front of goal at home we could have been out of sight at half time if we start to stick them in the onion bag.

Wish that F19 had been at the match Andy !...he. Might have agreed with me that our current strikers were intent on trying to score when a shot just wasn't on !...
Poor choices like a low percentage shot instead of playing a better placed player in often result in the kind of frustrations we saw on the faces of our forwards yesterday !.
So the onion bag stays practically empty and points go begging .....someone near me sighed
' pity that we don't have Kayode anymore '.....shame really I suppose !. Perhaps Sean Maguire might fill his boots ?...who knows ?

Exile on Spencer St 12-10-2014 21:10

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Originally Posted by yonmon;1120694[I
]....our current strikers were intent on trying to score when a shot just wasn't on !...
Poor choices like a low percentage shot instead of playing a better placed player in often result in the kind of frustrations we saw on the faces of our forwards yesterday...[/I]

In any team we all know there are those who go for glory, very often it's a necessary trait of goal scorers, but is not always to the benefit of the team if their skill is not as great as their egos.
I think one downside of loan players is that some are playing for their own careers first and the team second, and, if they are forwards, it perhaps shouldn't be a surprise if they go for goal when a lay off would have been the more productive option for the team.

Exile on Spencer St 13-10-2014 07:38

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Having said that, just watched the goals and O'Sullivan provided an excellent lay off to Naismith which, eventually, resulted in Stanley's goal.

yonmon 13-10-2014 08:12

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Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1120721)
Having said that, just watched the goals and O'Sullivan provided an excellent lay off to Naismith which, eventually, resulted in Stanley's goal.

True Exile !!.....

Psssssst ? Where is Dav007 I wonder ??.:cool:

cashman 13-10-2014 09:10

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Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 1120722)
True Exile !!.....

Psssssst ? Where is Dav007 I wonder ??.:cool:

Probably on his way back from Sligo wi his mates.:D

choirboy 13-10-2014 09:16

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Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 1120722)
True Exile !!.....

Psssssst ? Where is Dav007 I wonder ??.:cool:

Who is this 'DAV007' character you are on about?:D

Exile on Spencer St 13-10-2014 10:27

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Don't get embroiled, Choirboy.
But I suspect he's in deep mourning after Professor Coleman's first ( and we all hope last) defeat.;)

Chubbyman 13-10-2014 14:08

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Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1120727)
Who is this 'DAV007' character you are on about?:D

A 6' 2" Tranvestite from Liverpool of Jamaican extraction, apparently a close friend of Coley's or at least claims to be.

DaveinGermany 13-10-2014 18:36

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We was robbed! :D it was defo over the line.

AccyMad 13-10-2014 22:02

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1120780)
We was robbed! :D it was defo over the line.

Just a shame there's no way of reversing decisions like that & having the goal allowed post-match :rolleyes:

cashman 13-10-2014 23:40

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1120780)
We was robbed! :D it was defo over the line.

Nice on mate,was even clearer in yer film.;)

baldy 14-10-2014 05:16

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1120563)
This is a huge worry. I bet Piero is absolutely gutted. I just cannot understand the manager saying that we needed more cover in midfield. We started the season with Joyce, Mingoia, Naismith, Hatfield and Windass along with the oddity of Hunt and/or Buxton. We then added Proccy. Then Maguire and O'Sullivan arrived. And Moly. And now Barry. How many midfielders do we need?

Coley and Beattie played different formations, Beattie played 4-4-2 and Coley has been playing 4-2-3-1. We have signed different types of midfielders to play Coleys formation! Joyce, Proc or Barry to be the 2 holding midfielders whilst Moly, O'Sullivan, Maguire and Naismith play in the front 4

So yes we have signed plenty of midfielders but for different jobs!

Also, Anyone else notice Coley put Kal played most of the game up top on Saturday like he moved Bobby Grant and Gary Roberts from the wing to the front man? 💰💰

FrankMoody 14-10-2014 12:17

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Think some people on here get far too hung up on tactics and systems.

Vs Bury (JB)
................Lumley
Buxton Aldred Atkinson Mustoe
............... Joyce Hunt
Naismith.....................Mingoia
..................Hatfield
................... Gray

Vs D & R (JC)
.............Chapman
Hunt Atkinson Aldred Winnard
..............Joyce Procter
O’Sullivan.................Molyneux
.................Maguire,
.................Naismith


Don't think anyone can really argue theres a major difference in system in the 2 teams above, JB played 2 up on occasion but the only REAL difference is personnel, Proccy has been a massive signing, Hunt is a better defensive right back than Buxton, for me the other new signings are like-for-like just better players.

While I'm on, someone mentioned turning Naismith into a forward, he demonstrates almost every time he plays there that he's not comfortable and doesn't want to play there. Big mistake not putting Gray back in.

Exile on Spencer St 14-10-2014 12:50

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I'm not arguing with Frank's points, but what has happened to Buxton?

Chubbyman 14-10-2014 15:34

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Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1120829)
I'm not arguing with Frank's points, but what has happened to Buxton?

Abscess on his thigh,he's had an operation on it and will be back in training in about 10 days

Exile on Spencer St 14-10-2014 15:46

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Thanks, Chubby, we can always count on you to have intimate knowledge of the team's body parts.;)

Chubbyman 14-10-2014 16:14

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Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1120849)
Thanks, Chubby, we can always count on you to have intimate knowledge of the team's body parts.;)

I was in the changing rooms on Saturday after the game,believe me we have a team of big dicks!!!

Leylandii 14-10-2014 16:45

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Too much information !!!

yonmon 14-10-2014 16:57

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Originally Posted by Chubbyman (Post 1120853)
I was in the changing rooms on Saturday after the game,believe me we have a team of big dicks!!!

I'm tempted ......but will leave the riposte to Exile !

Exile on Spencer St 14-10-2014 17:58

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Leave me out of it. It's members only in the changing room!


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