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smudgie 18-01-2015 14:01

AFC Wimbledon Match Thread.........
 
Nice and early thread this week to hopefully forget about yesterday.

Surely we have to make changes?

My team..

.................Macey.
...Hunt........Atkinson.............Aldred........ ....Liddle.
.........Proccy...............Joyce.
... Mingoia.............Naismith..
...........Gray..........Mccarten.......

Subs
Dawber
Winnard
Windass
Carver
Buxton?
Bowerman
Conneely

cashman 18-01-2015 14:26

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Meself i would play Windass who when he came on yesterday, i thought was the most dangerous we looked, Proccy i would leave out, always gives 100%, but is far too slow. and would probably play Carver oer Gray who as per usual was on his ass when he came on, a tactic that needs coaching out of him imho.

Lemur 18-01-2015 14:35

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conneely is a midfield player, don't forget its only pre season for him,so he's not match fit,, plus remember his only football in england was for alfreton town

smudgie 18-01-2015 14:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemur (Post 1130086)
conneely is a midfield player, don't forget its only pre season for him,so he's not match fit,, plus remember his only football in england was for alfreton town


So why on EARTH was he played from the start at full back on Saturday???

Bizarre

:hidewall:

Chubbyman 18-01-2015 14:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemur (Post 1130086)
conneely is a midfield player, don't forget its only pre season for him,so he's not match fit,, plus remember his only football in england was for alfreton town

So why play him yesterday...and leave Hunty and Lidds out,bloody stupid and amateurish .....the Crooks syndrome again.Coley should stick to what he's good at Drinking and Gambling.

cashman 18-01-2015 14:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 1130088)
So why on EARTH was he played from the start at full back on Saturday???

Bizarre

:hidewall:

Exactly, our back 4 had been doing fine imho, so too swop 2 of em is downright numb.

yonmon 18-01-2015 18:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 1130079)
Nice and early thread this week to hopefully forget about yesterday.

Surely we have to make changes?

My team..

.................Macey.
...Hunt........Atkinson.............Aldred........ ....Liddle.
.........Proccy...............Joyce.
... Mingoia.............Naismith..
...........Gray..........Mccarten.......

Subs
Dawber
Winnard
Windass
Carver
Buxton?
Bowerman
Conneely

A change in player attitude and approach from the dismal to enthusiastic effort would please me !.
Eight points from the Play-off positions.......Seven points from the drop into Soccer oblivion, so some change IS needed !....via more relevant and inspired coaching ???.

DAV007 18-01-2015 19:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1130081)
Proccy i would leave out, always gives 100%, but is far too slow.

Agree Cashman.
He hasnt looked the same player since his return, no wonder he couldnt get near the 1st team at Bury.

Vs AFC I would do the following

*Drop Atkinson who has ben dreadful for a while now
*Put Winnard at centre back
*Under no circumstances play Conneely at left back
*Drop Proctor
*Give Carver a start, while he probably isnt good enough for league 2 he does put himself about and thats exactly what our formation needs. Plus while Gray is a good finisher, he doesnt have alot else to offer and is better used as an impact sub.
Until we can find a better striker, Carver should be given a chance.

Revived Red 18-01-2015 20:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1130120)
*Drop Atkinson who has ben dreadful for a while now

Nonsense. How many games do you actually go to?

DAV007 18-01-2015 20:09

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Rather than attack a forum contributor, please explain your view point.

Your better than that revivied red, now please explain your position.

deeayess 18-01-2015 20:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1130129)
Rather than attack a forum contributor, please explain your view point.

Your better than that revivied red, now please explain your position.

Rather than bluster just answer the question. How many games do you go to? Then we can judge how worthy your opinion is because that's the only way to judge players at this level since a few seconds on the football league show is no basis for a reasoned opinion.

Redraine 18-01-2015 20:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1130129)
Rather than attack a forum contributor, please explain your view point.

Your better than that revivied red, now please explain your position.

He doesn't need to explain. What he is saying is as clear as a bell.

smudgie 18-01-2015 20:16

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Atkinson has been our best defender all season you clown.

FrankMoody 18-01-2015 20:28

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Got to play Gray, got to play Liddle, maybe give Windass a run on the right and Mingoia on the left.

Manager in real danger of losing a lot of the fans support, not because of defeats but the manner of the defeats and his stubbornness to act on what everyone can see are the issues

deeayess 18-01-2015 20:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankMoody (Post 1130136)
Got to play Gray, got to play Liddle, maybe give Windass a run on the right and Mingoia on the left.

Manager in real danger of losing a lot of the fans support, not because of defeats but the manner of the defeats and his stubbornness to act on what everyone can see are the issues

I have to agree that it's not the losing it's the way we lose especially against teams near the bottom. I still think that Coley is suffering because of the high expectations we had when he came back. Most seasons we would be happy to be in the position we are in just now but we need to start winning and winning well.

We need to have a plan for Saturday and adapt it quickly if things go wrong.

Chubbyman 18-01-2015 20:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 1130133)
Atkinson has been our best defender all season you clown.

Not sure about best....he's definitely had some awesome performances...but so has Hunty who's so calm at right back and well underestimated,he's so cool with his professional fouls most refs miss them,Toms usually all out Rambo and Lidds and Deano have put in many spot on performances,all in all a good defence but if the midfield aren't on the ball they get put under a lot of pressure.So leave Rob alone DAV if you want someone to pick on who's under performing have a go at Coley !!!

DAV007 18-01-2015 20:42

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frankmoody,

gray has had his chance and is not good enough.
Carver or Bowerman are better at starting a game than Gray who makes more of an impact against tiring defenders.

DAV007 18-01-2015 20:43

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Chubby I agree.

While Proctor is far better than Hunt in midfield (what was battie thinking!), Proctor has let the back 4 down.

Chubbyman 18-01-2015 20:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1130142)
Chubby I agree.

While Proctor is far better than Hunt in midfield (what was battie thinking!), Proctor has let the back 4 down.

Are you sober "what was Battie thinking!" Nora's dead DAV !!!

FrankMoody 18-01-2015 20:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1130141)
frankmoody,

gray has had his chance and is not good enough.
Carver or Bowerman are better at starting a game than Gray who makes more of an impact against tiring defenders.

Any facts to back that up? Thought not. To even suggest Bowerman is worth a place in the starting 11 is ridiculous.

Look at the stats

DAV007 18-01-2015 20:59

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and to say that Gray is worthy of a 1st team start is ridiculous.

check the stats dear

deeayess 18-01-2015 21:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1130149)
and to say that Gray is worthy of a 1st team start is ridiculous.

check the stats dear

Stats can tell you anything you want. You still haven't answered how many games you have been to this season so that we can judge the value of your opinions. Or are they based on stats?

DAV007 18-01-2015 21:40

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clearly the ammount of games you attend = what opinion your allowed to have.

how pathetic.

deeayess 18-01-2015 21:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1130164)
clearly the ammount of games you attend = what opinion your allowed to have.

how pathetic.

No it shows that you have actually seen us play and can give a valid opinion. The only thing pathetic is your evasiveness.

I would agree with you if we are talking about the premiership with it's wall to wall coverage but to base an opinion on stats and a minute of coverage on tv is worthless compare to people who have actually watched the games.

So what's the answer?

Revived Red 19-01-2015 00:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1130164)
clearly the ammount of games you attend = what opinion your allowed to have.

how pathetic.

No, not pathetic. It's quite a good guide, to be honest. It prevents a sweeping judgement being made on the basis of one performance which may in reality be an off day for the player. He may have been unwell during the week, he may be carrying a slight injury for one game, he may be trying to do the work of two players because someone else is playing out of position. But if you have seen that player in 10 or 12 games against varying opponents, you will be able to have a more informed opinion.

So, DAV, we ask again. What informs your opinions?

Exile on Spencer St 19-01-2015 12:14

Re: AFC Wimbledon Match Thread.........
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1130149)
and to say that Gray is worthy of a 1st team start is ridiculous.
check the stats dear

I accept Mr.Gray is still learning his trade and has his faults but, once again, I presume you simply choose to ignore any FACT that contradicts your pronouncements - despite being sidelined for some time, he remains joint top scorer!

football19 19-01-2015 12:41

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Everyone has opinions about centre back pairings,but its difficult for me to comment.
The facts are when Tom and Dean were paired together,they played a major part in keeping Acci in the league, for Leam and Beattie.
In games together they averaged 1.7 points per game,not bad !!
Pretty sure Coley wont pair them(for some reason),but i respect that as its his call.
I am old school and prefer a quick sweeper and tough centre back,were Coley (presumably) prefers two centre backs and fullbacks to cover/sweep.
Going back to the Wimbledon game,i know people on here have kicked up a fuss on here about playing people out of position,but i would give Buxton a run of games in the three.
The lad can play,has a good shot and a nice chop/change of direction which would open up the opposition.(same goes for Windass as well )
Defensively hes a lot to learn,so his positioning play wont be an issue in the three.
See you all at Wimbledon !!!

Chubbyman 19-01-2015 13:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by football19 (Post 1130229)
Everyone has opinions about centre back pairings,but its difficult for me to comment.
The facts are when Tom and Dean were paired together,they played a major part in keeping Acci in the league, for Leam and Beattie.
In games together they averaged 1.7 points per game,not bad !!
Pretty sure Coley wont pair them(for some reason),but i respect that as its his call.
I am old school and prefer a quick sweeper and tough centre back,were Coley (presumably) prefers two centre backs and fullbacks to cover/sweep.
Going back to the Wimbledon game,i know people on here have kicked up a fuss on here about playing people out of position,but i would give Buxton a run of games in the three.
The lad can play,has a good shot and a nice chop/change of direction which would open up the opposition.(same goes for Windass as well )
Defensively hes a lot to learn,so his positioning play wont be an issue in the three.
See you all at Wimbledon !!!

Agree 100% F19

Outback Ozzy 19-01-2015 16:22

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I think we can judge how many games Dav has been to. Exactly none, zero, zilch. He is skirting the question with more body swerves than any of our strikers. I too am of the opinion that Rob Atkinson is one of our better defenders/centre backs. I too would also give Carver his chance up front with Piero and Windass feeding him from either wing.
P.S. Dav before you ask me how many games I have been too, All the home matches except those over Christmas/New Year due to being down under, and some away as well, so that is how I have come to my opinion!

yonmon 19-01-2015 23:11

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This thread is rapidly becoming a facsimile of the almost defunct Team for Tranmere thread which , as many before it got round to being a repository for personal jibes and inappropriate posts !.
So if it has to run for another seven days at least I hope that it does stick to Stanley v AFC Wimbledon rather than DAV007 v the rest of the world !...That way those of us with a bit of sanity left might find something of interest in it !.

Lost in Cornwall 20-01-2015 06:59

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Referee Darren England making his Football League debut.

Redraine 20-01-2015 08:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost in Cornwall (Post 1130314)
Referee Darren England making his Football League debut.

Oh, no! He needs to get on Akinfewa's case early, like the ref did when the Dons played Liverpool on tv recently. He was murdering their back 2 until he was booked. I think they have also added 2 new strikers on loan since then! How do they manage to do that, eh?

cashman 20-01-2015 08:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost in Cornwall (Post 1130314)
Referee Darren England making his Football League debut.

Well in all fairness to this guy, it will be very hard to be any worse than some of these dumbos ive seen this season.

Chubbyman 20-01-2015 08:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 1130330)
Oh, no! He needs to get on Akinfewa's case early, like the ref did when the Dons played Liverpool on tv recently. He was murdering their back 2 until he was booked. I think they have also added 2 new strikers on loan since then! How do they manage to do that, eh?

Because clubs like Stanley sign defenders as strikers so there must be a glut of strikers out there.

DAV007 20-01-2015 10:57

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any evidence the 2 new AFC loan strikers are any good?

Anyone can sign a striker, doesnt mean they are upto league 2 standard or add any extra quality to the team.

Chubbyman 20-01-2015 11:00

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[QUOTE=DAV007;1130347]any evidence the 2 new AFC loan strikers are any good?

Anyone can sign a striker, doesnt mean they are upto league 2 standard or add any extra quality to the team.[/QUOTE

Anyone can sign a striker? Coley can't

Redraine 20-01-2015 11:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1130347)
any evidence the 2 new AFC loan strikers are any good?

Anyone can sign a striker, doesnt mean they are upto league 2 standard or add any extra quality to the team.

Check 'em out, Dav, and tell me what you think!

Redraine 20-01-2015 11:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 1130350)
Check 'em out, Dav, and tell me what you think!

Here you go:_
David Connolly. Irish international Prolific goalscorer wherever he has played. OK at 37 he is no spring chicken, but needs handling!
Alfie Potter. Not an out and out striker on investigating, but has chipped in with plenty of goals from midfield.

Exile on Spencer St 20-01-2015 12:22

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Connolly used to be with Pompey and can be a danger, if he's on form, laying on balls to others in the box. No longer a youngster but consequently has an experienced head, if he chooses to use it.
Alfie Potter was with Oxford and I've seen him tear Stanley apart (5-0, I recall, the worst occasion) as a diminutive but effective attacking midfielder. Seems the Wombles are billing him as a winger, so whoever is full back will have his work cut out.:eek:
Looking forward to it with, after last week's results, some trepidation.

football19 20-01-2015 12:24

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Play a high line and Connelly and akinfenwa aren't as effective,play deeper and were in trouble.
Potters a good winger and we need to keep tight to him

Exile on Spencer St 20-01-2015 12:27

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I'd start with Liddle at left back, for sure. Neither Connolly or Potter are big, but we need someone who is quick and is not afraid to tackle. And is left-footed!

deeayess 20-01-2015 20:53

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I agree about Liddle plus we need to keep the marking tight on Akinfenwa. I saw the goals against Carlisle on Border TV and two were crosses into the box and headers. Make use of Atkinson at set pieces and we might get results and perhaps Carver as striker to provide a bit of height up front.

I know short highlights aren't much to go on but it looks like a possible weakness. We must have a backup plan though and not leave it too late as that has been our downfall recently.

And only £16 to get in is a bonus. Hopefully the clubhouse has cheap beer as well like the last time I was there :D

cashman 20-01-2015 21:27

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Last time i was in Wimbledon twas "Plough Lane" they played, always ok yon though.:) think thats the name of the old ground, Nick told me at Tranmere. lol me memorys going lol

deeayess 20-01-2015 21:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1130468)
Last time i was in Wimbledon twas "Plough Lane" they played, always ok yon though.:) think thats the name of the old ground, Nick told me at Tranmere. lol me memorys going lol

Yes, it was Plough Lane. Now it's the Cherry Red Records Stadium or whatever.

LongLostSon 20-01-2015 22:14

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- - - - and it's in Kingston ! (ground share with Kingstonian ) :confused:

deeayess 20-01-2015 22:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LongLostSon (Post 1130473)
- - - - and it's in Kingston ! (ground share with Kingstonian ) :confused:

Yes and the closest station is Norbiton but the line is closed at Wimbledon so replacement buses. I plan to get the train to Kingston and a 131 bus or walk if the traffic is bad. It's only just over a mile and a relatively straight road

Redraine 20-01-2015 22:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deeayess (Post 1130475)
Yes and the closest station is Norbiton but the line is closed at Wimbledon so replacement buses. I plan to get the train to Kingston and a 131 bus or walk if the traffic is bad. It's only just over a mile and a relatively straight road

Hero!

deeayess 20-01-2015 22:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 1130476)
Hero!

Not quite. We are visiting family that weekend so staying in Stevenage. Strange that things worked out that way with Accy in London :D.

Redraine 21-01-2015 00:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deeayess (Post 1130477)
Not quite. We are visiting family that weekend so staying in Stevenage. Strange that things worked out that way with Accy in London :D.

Ha ha! I used to do the same trick with my Sheffield daughter and family for Stanley games in Chesterfield, Nottingham and Hucknall even.

smudgie 21-01-2015 08:20

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Wimbledon away is great trip normally.... Good luck to all those going.

dantoro19 21-01-2015 21:03

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The last time I saw a Stanley defence deal with Akinfenwa effectively was when Toto was man marking him for the whole match, maybe a good tactic on Saturday would be to let either Tom or Rob stay tight to him, besides it would give Coleman the opportunity to scream one of his favourite instructions if they decided to wander away from him. I wonder if anyone could guess which instruction that would be... :P

deeayess 23-01-2015 10:37

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I've just heard from Wimbledon that the bar at the ground will be open to away fans. Last time I was there it was a good sized bar and cheaper than the pubs round about. :drink:

cashman 23-01-2015 10:42

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They are always pretty civil down yon in my experience.:) even when they get beat.:D

deeayess 23-01-2015 10:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1130731)
They are always pretty civil down yon in my experience.:) even when they get beat.:D

Yes, I found that apart from one idiot who we had been talking to before the game but was drunk after it and was a pain. All clubs have got one of these I suppose.

Great day out last time I was there because we beat them 2 1 and I think Murphy scored a cracker of a goal. Sky tv had Wimbledon winning 2 1 in the bar afterwards as well which was funny.

Time to head off now so hopefully it will be on and be a lot better than last week.


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