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As the other one got a bit like "my dad's bigger than your dad"......Team for the Wombles game :)



Macey, Lidds, Tom, Rob, Deano, Proccy, Joyce, Naismith, Maguire, McCarten, Barry :)

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No natural striker there. Looks like any threat will come from midfield on the break. Cold but sunny here at kingsmeadow so let's go for it

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No real threat so far although just been a long range shot not far away. Wimbledon have been more like scoring and came very close early on

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We looked like we were set up not to concede and failed. We haven't done much up front other than long range shots and done little with any corners we have won. We must get a striker on

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Do the players look any happier in what they're doing today Deeayess ??.

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Two down now.....where are the goals going to come from ??

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Adam Buxton obviously !!....Supersub ???.

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Another defeat then !...,...Wonder what the inevitable postmortem will reveal ?.

I'll be interested to hear about the level of team spirit which did appear so low at Tranmere,
And whether or not the Management team got it right or not ?, and should my worries about a potential slide towards the Conference give me cause for concern ?..
Can't wait for the verdict from our star pundits !.

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Looked a lot better when gray and windass came on. Sloppy defending for their second goal. I'm not convinced re team spirit but we did look more positive. Was cold though. Could easily have went home after an hour - not!!!

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Great to see Buxton back, as Coley said it's like having a new signing.

As for the result..... Not surprised, at all.

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Funny he said exactly the same about Gray

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Pretty mundane from both sides in the first half, good long range shot from Naismith was one highlight, but Wimbledon scoring just before half time was kind of inevitable.
Much, much better second half from Stanley but undone with a bit of bad judgement from Liddle (otherwise played to his usual good standard) delaying his clearance and bad luck that ball broke perfectly for two Wombles to beat Macey.
Not a bad performance from Stanley in general except there was just no real threat in front of goal.
Coleman can't be faulted for the timing of his substitutions, and it was good for Buxton to get what turned out to be the consolation goal.
My MOM (despite my earlier misgivings) was Barry. He looked composed in midfield and played some delightful raking cross field passes. He was also very, very unlucky his curling, but deliberate, shot hit the woodwork in the second half.
On another day Stanley may have earned the draw they deserved but Wimbledon packed the penalty area when needed and thwarted Stanley's attempts, from McCarten especially, to create a genuine chance in the box.
Do either of Akinfenwa's brothers play football, I wonder. What Stanley would do for their very own YFB!

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OK my two pennorth first (well Exile hadn't posted when I started typing), as it wasn't so far home for me .....

All in my humble opinion of course, and bearing in mind that I don't know the players well enough to identify many of them at 50 yards plus ....

The difference was The Beast, aka YFB. We actually did a pretty good job of containing him, mostly legally according to the ref, but he still picked up and held up a lot of their route one stuff. On the other hand, we had nothing to offer that way and kept trying chips into the corners behind their fullbacks for Maguire and Macarten to run onto - and they weren't quick enough or good enough to make much out of that, though they weren't short of effort. Naismith looked more dangerous coming from deeper on the left in the first half, but got switched to the right after the break. Atkinson and Liddle played well together in front of us in the second half, great shame that it was Lidds getting caught in possession that lead to their second goal - cracking finish it has to be sad from someone who'd only been on for 2 minutes, giving Macey, who'd had a good game throughout, looking secure under the crosses, little chance. Our worse failing from start to finish was delivery of the final ball, which ranged from hopeful to dreadful. Apart from our goal (which I couldn't really see) we only had two shots of note, one excellent save by their keeper, low to his right in the first half from Naismith, and Barry's screamer against the bar in the second - if that had gone in we might even have gone on to win.

Man of the match - Joyce for me, not least for being our biggest attacking threat in the first half.

Team spirit - looked OK to me. Officials - not great, probably to our advantage on balance. Substitutions - early enough, Gray for Maguire probably making most difference (but not enough, obviously).

Over to you to disagree, experts!

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I think we are all saying pretty much the same thing. It is a fair summary of the game today so I won't disagree with you :)

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Another poor performance on the whole, improved 2nd half when the subs came on - got to give them a start next week because his current plan ain't working!!

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a Wimbledon fan I know who attend today said we where not the worst team they have seen nor the best, he said we looked average which is confirmed by our league position.

he thought neither McCarten or Maguire where any good but did rate Joyce.
he also said Joyce's midfield partner (presume he meant proctor?) was rubbish in the first half.


I do hope he drops Macguire and gives either Gray, Carver or Bowerman a run out. If he doesn't see a future for carver or bowerman he should move then on, is no benefit for the players nor the club.
I think Coley has found the same problem as Beattie did, that neither Gray, Carver or Bowerman are quite good enough to be a league 2 striker in a team that wants to be in the top half. However, with them all being young I do hope they can all improve.

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Average is probably a fair summary, but I thought all the team gave it their best today. Trouble, average best is not always enough.
Agree with Chimer that Joyce gave a captain's performance. He actually had two alongside him in midfield - Barry and Proctor. The former, I thought was very good, but, equally, I don't think it correct to claim the latter was rubbish.Proccy doesn't appear to be tasked with spraying passes around :rolleyes: but he does a job of breaking up the opposition's play and challenging for headers. Every team needs someone to do that and I don't think Proccy failed in that role today.
As to forwards, Messrs Gray, Carver and Bowerman are all chasing the one place and adding Maguire to that mix just doesn't seem to give Stanley anything extra, which, surely, must be the main reason for having loan players?

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Right my view, First half was a deserved 1-0 to the Wombles, Whatever plan or tactics the lads were given failed miserably in my view. So whilst subs coming on after 1 hour is a vast improvement, woulda been much better on for second half. when the subs came on a great improvement we dominated fer approx 25 mins Very light up front McGuire i thought had his worst game in a Stanley shirt, another lad though who is not an out n out striker so to me hardly his fault. Mcarten was also hardly on his feet, perhaps bigger studs are needed? For my money Carver, whilst far from the finished article happens to be a centre forward, so to me should be given a run, but NO not even on the bench.:rolleyes: Barry i thought was a revelation, did very well n his great shot deserved a goal, Thought Atkinson n Liddle (apart from his error) also did well, verdict= much better than Tranmere, But we have an Ex -Good Striker in charge,so how he fails to play a striker in the Centre Forward position i will never know.:confused: By the way First half the sun was glaring big time in our eyes n the wombles keepers, i will never understand why he was NOT put under any pressure first 45?

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This is getting scary, we are all saying more or less the same thing. It's not often you get that on here :)

On a more serious note, did anyone hear if that young girl behind us that seemed to have collapsed was ok

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I forgot to mention the look of horror on the Wombles' players faces when The Beast was substituted and they realised their chances of getting a post-game pie had just vanished :D

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So two questions !....Firstly, which Manager came out on top tactically today ?, and Secondly
do you share my trepidation regarding the six point gap twixt the Reds and the relegation places ?.

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My opinion is that our poor tactics in the first half by having no real attacking threat close in was our undoing. They did what we expected so no real surprise and we picked up in the second half with the subs so we did learn from the mistake. They're goals were more down to poor defending I'd say but given my poor eyesight and a few pints tv may prove me wrong.

I'm not too concerned yet as Hartlepool should be one of those going down and 15 points is a good cushion. Even 7 to dag and red with a better goal difference should see us home but we can forget about playoffs the way we are playing.

I wouldn't like to be playing a relegation match at the daggers in the 2nd last match though.

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None came out on top in my view, 2, no trepidation from me cos i think we got the skill undoubtedly to survive. dunno about that young lass, told yeh D. i asked her if she was ok n she said yes, then they carried her off on a stretcher.:confused:

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Think everyone's of the same opinion,but it was interesting we started 4-3-3 and finished 3-4-3 !!!
So we have a plan B and C :)
We desperately need a focal point up top,but most teams say the same !!
Positives,keeper showing a bit of form,Barry was composed and linked play and all the subs did well,with windass showing good pace.
We really need to put a few performances together,especially at home,KTF !

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My god sounds like we are all in agreement,everything covered .The most disappointing issue for me is the lack of respect Coley has given the fans who travelled down by refusing to give a post match interview and hiding behind Joycey.

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And what about the other ignorant pig,pre match at half past one,when the team coach arrived? not even a smile never mind acknowledgment of any fans waiting to greet it, :rolleyes:

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i can't comment on it as I was in the bar and didn't see it but based on the stats you could be right :D

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Who you on about Cashy?

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The guy who never read "How to win friends and influence people":rolleyes: I am heartily sick of people telling me how hard he works,I dont doubt that at all, But thats no excuse fer a pig ignorant attitude.

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Good point, Cashy, I too thought the very low sun being in their keeper's eyes suggested Joyce had won the toss. But the problem Remained...there was no big, ugly centre forward who could challenge their keeper for crosses anyway, so the sun gave Stanley no advantage.

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Come on boys and girls not all bad by any means
The team that finished had an average age of 23
Just a quote from the programme of yesterday
Wimbledons playing budget 1,135 million, the average in league two is 1,309
We have 10 games with 7 at home in next 6 weeks lets get behind the club, players and management team, win tuesday the garden is rosy again
Oh by the way supporters memberships still available only £5 see u at the Bury game

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Following FLS my disappointment with yesterday's result deepened, and the lack of respect and good Google Page Ranking on the part of our Manager reported previously does not, I am sad to say, surprise me one little bit !.
However one bright spot which lifted the gloom a little, was a bit of Clayton End logic, which when I was going on as usual about the amount of missed chances on the part of our non-strikers to a friend of mine, I got the reply ...,
" Aye, but if that lad Crooks were still here, we'd have missed a lot more !!".
Now is that a gem of 'Stanley' humour or what ?.

( Northampton Town.....3 wins on the spin!....3 clean sheets !... Should make for an interesting encounter !).

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I think we are still relatively positive it's just not about the playoffs it's about safety for another season. To be honest that is our target most seasons.

Doesn't mean we can't dream though

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That narrows it down to about ten then !! :)

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In just two weeks we've apparently gone from pushing for the playoffs to fighting to stay in the league.chopping and changing the team and formation week by week doesn't help...

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Is this a forum for adults or children?

Grown men crying about not getting a smile, a wave or a interview.

Come on

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I think you are remarkable educated for someone who's not out of nappies yet!!!

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Well said!

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Amazing, it may well be the reason certain people dont go any more, yet you think its well said.:rolleyes: Still think i know why yeh said that.

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From most of your posts, DAVO, I'd assumed it was for both.:rolleyes:

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It didn't take long for this thread to go down hill!! I wonder why

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Seem to remember someone posting something on another thread about beats not waving and giving interviews pot black and all that ;):rolleyes:

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To get back to football, Stanley get 63 seconds (53m.50s) at the very end of this:
BBC iPlayer - The Football League Show - 2014/2015: 24/01/2015

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Bury up next young man ;) :)

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Longer than we usually get

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I think the ref yesterday deserves a mention , I believe it was his first FL match, he did a good job,kept play moving ,kept up with play,and no yellow cards necessary !

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Think the fact no-ones mentioned him endorses that, did very well i thought.

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Watched the goals conceded yesterday,any others notice who went AWOL for the first goal?,no cheating and watching it again !!!

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Was it Lidds?

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I thought it was Deano as he was the right back. They had two in the clear at their left hand side.

That's subject to poor memory and being on the bevvy though :D

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My memory was Dean had to come over to the left and cover for Lids,maybe I've recollected it wrongly.Put us out of our misery F19

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Impressed chubbyman !,hope you didn't cheat tho !!.
Think he must have gone for a cup of tea or something as he never appears in the footage.
That's what happens when you get caught out of position !!.

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Promise no cheating

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The benefits of having less bevvy than me and better eyesight. If only I'd had the chance to see the footage :D.

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Dean went across from right back to left back,held the lad up ,but still lids doesn't appear ,I know he's not that tall but i have watched it five times and still can't see him lol !

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You forgot the better looking.

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Ah, so I was wrong about the eyesight then

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To be fair,I thought he played ok going forward and I still think two of our previous four keepers would have saved both shots/goals,I thought that on the day and haven't changed my mind,although again,the keeper did ok

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Yes...just watched... He's in Belly Busters cafe down the road.

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Why do some players have nicknames, some have Christian names and some have surnames? Why not use one, or perhaps Christian name followed by surname then we all know (opposition fans in particular) who you're on about?

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It's a reason why not a lot of people come on the Stanley forum anymore & I said well said because for once davo is right for a change. Come on I nearly wee'd my kecks.......really some of u expected a round of applause for getting on the coach? Think coley n bell have more pressing issues like dealing with the team and performance is more necessary, imho cos that will be the reason people come to the games.

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Amazing how the fashionable euphemism "held the lad up" has come to replace the more accurate " failed to get in a tackle" these days!

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See mel yeh know it all, but know nowt.:rolleyes: Nothing at all to do wi our management, nobody got on or wanted to get on the coach, so basically yeh dont know what yer talking about.:rolleyes:

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Sorry but that's a load of bullsh;t...Cashy's not on about Coley or Bell... Agree about Coley and Bell having more pressing matters at times but not nearly 2 hrs before kick off especially when they've all been in a hotel down the road all morning,but as I said you got the wrong end of the stick !!!

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Days of diving into tackles are a thing of the past,stay on your feet and try to force the player inside.
He did this,unfortunately Lids was nowhere to be seen and Rob reacted too slowly to double up.
Watched the goal again and you will see what I mean.
You obviously don't like your favourite players being criticised !!!

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Why am I the only person who can see that Atkinson is over rated ?

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Go back to sleep.

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How would he know? Hes never seen him fer 90 mins.:D

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Everyone has there opinions Davo,I always like pace in at least one of my CBs as they can cover/sweep/pick the runners up.
Wimbledon played two young CBs,no height but quick and it worked for them.
If your relying on fullbacks to cover/sit on their shoulder it takes something out the team for me.
Coley has his own views which I accept,but we looked a lot more organised when we went three at the back and rob on the left and Tom on the right and dean sweeping.

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I'm saying nowt more on this issue, as it would get too acrimonious if I really say what I think.

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The "ignore member" button is without a doubt the best feature on this forum :D

All I need now is people to stop quoting some clowns and it's happy days :D

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Thought that's when debating forums are for !!,expressing your opinions ?

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Yes. The trouble is, there are certain opinions, which have been expressed a hundred times already, which when repeated for the hundred and first will provoke the same reactions which we've heard a hundred times already, etc, etc. So Redraine has probably saved us reading at least 10 pointless posts by not responding on this occasion - a commendable reaction :)

And yes, I know this probably qualifies as a pointless post - sorry ;)

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I've got nearly every goal Accis conceded this season on series link,so if we want a debate on defending and why we have shipped so many goals,I have the facts for a good debate.
Teams normally pin conceded goals on a player or players.
In phil Edwards last season were he scored a lot of goals!! (12?),he conceded the most,indeed double anyone else !!
This season it's a similar story,you will be shocked by the stats.
I presume our coaching/management do the same,and before someone else says,it's my opinion :)
I have decided to do it for a full season for my own reasons !!!!

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OK, I'm still not home yet and won't be until tomorrow night and I've been on the bevvy since around 6 ish so maybe it's just me but eh??? :D

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Scientific analysis .... I like it..... Why don't you send it to Coley as he can't have it judging by some of his selections. Just pulling your leg 19

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At least you always try to talk football FA19......which at this juncture comes as an oasis of sensible debating in a desert of chaotic sideswiping and, at tmes, a fruitless pursuit of oneupmanship !.
Seeing that practically every thread seems to arrive very quickly at this unfriendly and uninteresting exchange of criticisms makes me wonder what motivates them ?.
A Forum is an entity which does allow a free flowing of ideas and opinions as everyone seems to agree with, but shouldn't it be judged by the quality of the contributions posted thereon ?.

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Sell it to them at the end of the season when they are giving contracts out !,seriously most clubs do match analysis,may sponsor heart monitors for the lads in training ,so we can weed out the shirkers lol

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Good job they didn't have heart monitors when Beats was in charge,he would have had to weed himself out,watching training many a time I could see he had shirking off to a T.

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To be fair,this squad is the fittest I have seen in five years,probably due to the average age being pretty young

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This thread started out with some really good footballing points about the game but ended up going downhill in the end. People at the game have opinions which may differ especially depending on the amount of drink they have had, not mentioning any names but it could be me :D, but most are worth listening to. People not at the game can also form opinions based on what they have read or seen in highlights. you can also get some good natured banter but you can also get some rubbish.

All forums depend on good and robust moderation and this forum sees the least regulated that I am on. This is not a criticism of MrT as he stepped into the breach when nobody else would but most threads these days seem to descend into disarry. I may be as guilty of this in the past however since putting a certain poster on my ignore list I hope this is no longer the case.

I think we all would like to see sanity return to the forum but how do we achieve this?

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That's the politest way I've heard it described during his time at Ibrox :D

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So let's hope the Bury Match Thread is filled with keen preview, accurate review, and heartwarming banter !.....
There I go hoping again !...remembering that Hope is the only Bee that makes honey without flowers !.
Hope I'm right though !.

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You can but live in hope :)

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Exactly, R.R. I didn't notice our resident tactical expert criticising a certain defender for being out of position upfield when Yeovil scored the winner. He makes a point of always pointing out the errors of our other defenders but never the regular horlicks committed by the above mentioned. Understandable, I know, due to the special relationship, but let's have some objectivity for a change.

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Aye but as i was stood wi him fer most of the second half, i have to say he includes all of em in his analysis, no-ones sacred, i wouldn't really expect to see it in print, not rocket science.

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Couple of points Redraine,the goal you are referring to wasn't the winner,we were losing and throwing caution to the wind.
I presume your referring to dean who sprinted back 50 yards to get back to double up,unfortunately the lad checked and got the cross in.( I am a believer in fullbacks being judged on defending/stopping crosses etc.. Rather than goal assists)
They had one lad in the middle,we had two (rob and lids),the lad got between them and scored.
That's being objective !!!.
I like to think I am fair in my assessments, and try to be constructive.
I did say I thought lids did ok,but got punished for his mistakes.

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As always seem good points.
Your correct in that most coaches,when a goal is conceded,look firstly at were possession was turned over and it could be the centre forward not holding the ball up etc..
My observations are based on tv highlights and recalling what I saw at the game.
Sometimes the highlights differed from how I first saw it !!!
Everyone seems to have their favourite players,but I try to be unbiased and objective.
I do agree as well that highlights sometimes don't do justice to a players performance,but I have set out to analyis goals conceded during a season ( sad I know).

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Good summary on the fishy site from the captain. Maybe leave the last word on Wombledon to him and let's all look ahead to burying Bury for those lucky/determined enough to attend the match.

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Agree good summary, he also had a fair game on sat i thought.