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DAV007 03-02-2015 21:19

Nicky Hunt
 
I would play him vs Plymouth at CB.

I know his pace has gone, but his organisation, tackling, ability in the air and leadership is desperatly required.
Its essential we stop the rot, if that means working hard and playing out a 0-0 draw, then so be it.

I know I was critical of Hunt in central midfield, but this was not his fault but the previous manager who played him out of position.

I cant help but conclude Hunt still has alot to offer and I hope Coley and Jimmy consider going to a back 5 to get Hunt talking to and leading the lads to a clean sheet.

I recall in our 2nd season after promotion we had a bad run of form and Coley went to a 5-3-2 which resulted in some pretty boring 0-0s and 1-0 wins but it helped grow confidence and get us out of the rot.

FrankMoody 03-02-2015 21:41

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1132108)
I would play him vs Plymouth at CB.

I know his pace has gone, but his organisation, tackling, ability in the air and leadership is desperatly required.
Its essential we stop the rot, if that means working hard and playing out a 0-0 draw, then so be it.

I know I was critical of Hunt in central midfield, but this was not his fault but the previous manager who played him out of position.

Absolute classic - played out of position so you were critical...... But you want to play him out of position...!?!? Absolutely superb :D

DAV007 03-02-2015 21:52

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
He played CB at times for Bolton.
He never played central midfield before Beattie put him there.

Chubbyman 04-02-2015 06:33

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1132110)
He played CB at times for Bolton.
He never played central midfield before Beattie put him there.

You Sir are a Superstar of awesome proportion, most of our problems seem to stem from players being thrown in before fully fit and many playing out of position.

shakermaker 04-02-2015 08:08

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1132108)
I would play him vs Plymouth at CB.

I know his pace has gone, but his organisation, tackling, ability in the air and leadership is desperatly required.
Its essential we stop the rot, if that means working hard and playing out a 0-0 draw, then so be it.

I know I was critical of Hunt in central midfield, but this was not his fault but the previous manager who played him out of position.

I cant help but conclude Hunt still has alot to offer and I hope Coley and Jimmy consider going to a back 5 to get Hunt talking to and leading the lads to a clean sheet.

I recall in our 2nd season after promotion we had a bad run of form and Coley went to a 5-3-2 which resulted in some pretty boring 0-0s and 1-0 wins but it helped grow confidence and get us out of the rot.

I get the theory but unsure it would work. For me, Hunty is as old-fashioned a full-back as they come. If we were to drop anyone else into defence I'd probably move Proc there. He did a job on Akinfenwa at the Crown earlier this season and if you can do that there's a fair bet you can mark anyone in this league.

Agree though that we need leaders on the pitch to come to the fore.

football19 04-02-2015 08:52

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 1132117)
I get the theory but unsure it would work. For me, Hunty is as old-fashioned a full-back as they come. If we were to drop anyone else into defence I'd probably move Proc there. He did a job on Akinfenwa at the Crown earlier this season and if you can do that there's a fair bet you can mark anyone in this league.

Agree though that we need leaders on the pitch to come to the fore.

Last time proccy was tried at centre back was notts county away and it didn't work ( lost 4-0 ? )
He did a job on akinfenwa as we had two cb's also covering as insurance.
I liked what Northampton did to us,played,narrow and didn't give us any space in central areas,and battled like hell.
Think we need a bit of that battling quality to allow us to play

accybeme 04-02-2015 09:03

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
J C more likely to go for 4-2-3-1 having Maguire as fox in the box
------------------Davies.
Conneely----Winnard----Atkinson----Buxton.
--------Procter-------------Joyce
Mingoyia-------Maguire----------------Naismith
-----------------Gornell.

Exile on Spencer St 04-02-2015 09:49

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Uncomfortable though it is (to agree with Davo :eek:), I have to admit that I'd also wondered whether Mr. Hunt could adapt to being a CB. he has the height and there's ususally a bit less running around than at full back.
But whoever is played on Saturday, they'll have their hands full trying to deal with Rueben Reed (sp?).

cashman 04-02-2015 09:51

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Does Maguire actually know where the box is? Fox my arse.:rolleyes:

shakermaker 04-02-2015 10:06

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by football19 (Post 1132119)
Last time proccy was tried at centre back was notts county away and it didn't work ( lost 4-0 ? )
He did a job on akinfenwa as we had two cb's also covering as insurance.
I liked what Northampton did to us,played,narrow and didn't give us any space in central areas,and battled like hell.
Think we need a bit of that battling quality to allow us to play

If it's the game I'm thinking of (FA Cup - 2011?) Proc was sent off at 2-0* - hardly a fair review! :)

Agree with playing narrow - would just depend on the ability of the midfield to battle together and counter-attack well. Would imagine Joyce, Proc, Mingoia and maybe Buxton would be effective at that with Gornell leading the line but am stuck for another midfield player who can get stuck in.

*and the red was subsequently rescinded!

football19 04-02-2015 10:17

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1132126)
Uncomfortable though it is (to agree with Davo :eek:), I have to admit that I'd also wondered whether Mr. Hunt could adapt to being a CB. he has the height and there's ususally a bit less running around than at full back.
But whoever is played on Saturday, they'll have their hands full trying to deal with Rueben Reed (sp?).

Exile,
Cant see Hunty playing CB due to his reluctance to head the ball !!
He tends to block his man then duck under the ball and take the throw in, and is very good at it.
He commits himself to the tackle rather than jockeying/chasing down the opposition and his experience helps in this,hence i don't really know how fast he is !!!
Different animal altogether centre back and for me hes a clever fullback,who reads the game and picks his runs intelligently

football19 04-02-2015 10:27

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 1132129)
If it's the game I'm thinking of (FA Cup - 2011?) Proc was sent off at 2-0* - hardly a fair review! :)

Agree with playing narrow - would just depend on the ability of the midfield to battle together and counter-attack well. Would imagine Joyce, Proc, Mingoia and maybe Buxton would be effective at that with Gornell leading the line but am stuck for another midfield player who can get stuck in.

*and the red was subsequently rescinded!

Think it was Shaker,but he looked like a duck out of water and wasnt tried there again.
I think Gornell will be key,but he will probably need 4/5 games to get upto speed.If he holds it up and brings others into play the team will benefit massively.
Its the three behind him that troubles me.
Naismith and Piero stay wide most of the time,but for me most of their best work/attempts on goal come when we get them into central areas,hence my comment on playing narrow.
Look at Northamptons "wingers",they were excellent,but not once did they stay wide and get to the byeline,just looked to tuck in and run off Richards and O Toole.

accybeme 04-02-2015 10:45

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accybeme (Post 1132120)
J C more likely to go for 4-2-3-1 having Maguire as fox in the box
------------------Davies.
Conneely----Winnard----Atkinson----Buxton.
--------Procter-------------Joyce
Mingoyia-------Maguire----------------Naismith
-----------------Gornell.

cashman Re: Nicky Hunt
Does Maguire actually know where the box is? Fox my arse.:rolleyes:

J C obviously thinks so he's played Maguire at point or fox in most recent games, so I think this is what J C would go for,

DAV007 04-02-2015 12:30

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
I would start mcCartan or Windass ahead of McGuire, I would also like to see bpwerman given some action

cashman 04-02-2015 12:48

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
I would start Long John Silver n Douglas Bader ahead of Maguire as a main striker, thats fer sure.

yonmon 04-02-2015 14:15

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1132127)
Does Maguire actually know where the box is? Fox my arse.:rolleyes:

My thoughts exactly !...doubt whether the West Ham Wunderkind would actually fit anywhere in the current squad !.
From which you can deduce that I really don't rate him much .

Chubbyman 04-02-2015 17:42

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by football19 (Post 1132132)
Think it was Shaker,but he looked like a duck out of water and wasnt tried there again.
I think Gornell will be key,but he will probably need 4/5 games to get upto speed.If he holds it up and brings others into play the team will benefit massively.
Its the three behind him that troubles me.
Naismith and Piero stay wide most of the time,but for me most of their best work/attempts on goal come when we get them into central areas,hence my comment on playing narrow.
Look at Northamptons "wingers",they were excellent,but not once did they stay wide and get to the byeline,just looked to tuck in and run off Richards and O Toole.

Naithsmith is at his most dangerous coming in from the right at pace and getting it on to his left foot.

maccawozzagod 04-02-2015 17:44

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by football19 (Post 1132132)
I think Gornell will be key,but he will probably need 4/5 games to get upto speed

have we got 4/5 games spare? If we haven't picked up any points in 4/5 games time we'll be in the relegation scrap for sure

football19 04-02-2015 18:34

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1132190)
have we got 4/5 games spare? If we haven't picked up any points in 4/5 games time we'll be in the relegation scrap for sure

Fair point macca,but he's going to be rusty that's for sure !

mab 04-02-2015 21:44

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1132127)
Does Maguire actually know where the box is? Fox my arse.:rolleyes:

:) He did get the pen for us against the cobblers ;)After been put throu and bearing down on goal Cashy:)

Redraine 05-02-2015 07:33

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mab (Post 1132212)
:) He did get the pen for us against the cobblers ;)After been put throu and bearing down on goal Cashy:)

Good job he did get the pen because my mates on the Clayton End thought he wasn't going to beat the keeper. Mind you, Joyce did his best to miss too!

cashman 05-02-2015 07:45

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mab (Post 1132212)
:) He did get the pen for us against the cobblers ;)After been put throu and bearing down on goal Cashy:)

Yeh he got lost i thought.:D

yonmon 05-02-2015 16:05

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1132224)
Yeh he got lost i thought.:D

You know how sometimes you get the feeling ..." That lad'll never make a footballer as long as he's got a hole in his "..I forget how it goes !. Well I think we've got one in this West Ham Wunderkinde !.
I do hope I'm wrong ....But !.

FrankMoody 05-02-2015 17:16

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 1132262)
You know how sometimes you get the feeling ..." That lad'll never make a footballer as long as he's got a hole in his "..I forget how it goes !. Well I think we've got one in this West Ham Wunderkinde !.
I do hope I'm wrong ....But !.

I think that's pretty harsh. IMO the lad can play, he's just not a centre forward and he's not better than what's at the club already. Also all our attacking players are going to be up against it with Coalmans 'style' of play, ie 7 passes across the back then a hopeful ball towards the forwards.

deeayess 05-02-2015 18:43

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankMoody (Post 1132266)
I think that's pretty harsh. IMO the lad can play, he's just not a centre forward and he's not better than what's at the club already. Also all our attacking players are going to be up against it with Coalmans 'style' of play, ie 7 passes across the back then a hopeful ball towards the forwards.

I would agree with this and it's not just him. Some loan players are played out of position and are no better than what we have so why bother.

cashman 05-02-2015 18:52

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
What i can't grasp, is why loan any young un, then play him outa position? unless the lads a superman, then it can only do him harm if he fails? imho.:(

yonmon 05-02-2015 20:04

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankMoody (Post 1132266)
I think that's pretty harsh. IMO the lad can play, he's just not a centre forward and he's not better than what's at the club already. Also all our attacking players are going to be up against it with Coalmans 'style' of play, ie 7 passes across the back then a hopeful ball towards the forwards.

As I said Frank, just a feeling I have, and if his below par contributions to recent games have been due to our esteemed Manager not being able to find a position for him to exhibit any skills which he might use on t'Stanley's behalf, then this too is a situation worthy of some criticism !.
Alfred.E says that I can be a bit harsh at times, a personality trait that I honestly wasn't aware of, but will strive hard to subdue !.

Chrisr 06-02-2015 16:01

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
I fail to see the logic of some player movements and the managers thinking. I am not a coley hater or any other staff hater. I wonder if bringing him back was a good move, He does not seem to be able to change a game like the opposition can. When we were playing well we could beat anyone in our league. Now why we can't play like this every week? we have enough fire power to win games but we seem to leave our substitutions too late. I don't think we will go down but neither will we go up with the current style of play we offer. We do need some leadership both on and off the field. Why James gray does not feature more often is a mystery, Nicky hunt has a lot to contribute and he would make a great coach. I am not sure about some of the signings we have made will be good enough for the challenge ahead.


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