Shrewsbury Town Game
 

Doesn't look good with the weather forecast. The freak hail storms have stopped but the it looks a wet one from 3am onwards.

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Not more 'disgusting' weather? Somerset will be fretting.

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Ignore the forecast! Just had a hail storm now.:D

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Not wet - yet but the wearing of thermals strongly advised! :o

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0-1. Bobby Grant of all people. :(

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1-1 pen Windass. BBC Shropshire can't understand reason for penalty...

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Fishy site says foul on Liddle going for corner, BBC says Crooks "draws" a foul in the box (does he have some pencils tucked in his socks?).

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The Beeb line-up looks like it's Crooks and Gornell playing up front together - is that the way it is ????

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Ex-Red Danny Ventre has just scored for Telford against Shrewsbury in the Shropshire Senior Cup. But Telford are losing 3-1 to the Shrews' youth team!

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...and again! 1-2. :(

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Damn. That would have been a very good point.

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We was robbed, by a linesman that makes "Hawkeye" look like "Ray Charles":mad: The attack they scored from, shoulda been a throw in to stanley in the shrewsbury half, the whole ball was way oer the line.:mad: i hope the blind gets wifes run off wi someone tonight. Crooks played in defence/midfield and overall didn't do badly at all Chimer,

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Funny game tonight in difficult conditions they had a large slice of luck with their 1st, goal we missed our best chance with Gornell,s shot that came back off the keeper, but the star man tonight was their no:-4 young Ryan Woods what a good looking player our midfield could,nt touch him looks destined for bigger things. Quick mention for Crook,s decent game kept Tyrone Bartlett quiet till they took him off, disapointed we coud,nt hang on for the point.

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Disappointed is an understatement !!!
Nothing between the teams played in appalling conditions,but if you don't take your chances you will get punished and Terry missed an absolute sitter,no excuses,you have to score from 6 yards out.
Both teams went 3-5-2 and the game was quite open.
Their first goal was a fluke,hitting the wall from a free kick and looping into the net.
Coley made subs to win the game,replacing defensive minded players (lids and Barry) with Naismith and McCarten.
That made the game end to end and we paid the price.
Positives,we matched them for most of the game and Joycy and Proccy run their hearts out.
Negatives,I don't think Windass is a forward and is not comfortable back to goal.
I thought he was an attacking central midfielder and I've not changed my mind.
Never mind onto Saturday KTF

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Can't agree about Joycey,thought he had a bad game for him,surprised you've not mentioned Crooks he was my man of match,maybe your Ping hat had slipped over your eyes.........again.Went to sleep for their thrown in that led to the winning goal.

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for me, the shrews started the brighter got there deflected goal but we came into and we where on top when we scored and had gornell's chance. Second half we started well but the shrews pressed us back although i didn't think they looked scoring a winner till they did!

It's nice to have positives about Crooks and hopefully he gains confidence from his ok performance tonight and can become another Stanley legend.

A stanley star of a few years ago deserves a mention, bobby grant even though he scored two, he still came over and applauded the stanley fans at the end. You could see the affection he has for our club.

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Even the thrown in was a fluke,it hit the concrete post and bounced into their lads hands !!
crooks played well but Joycy never stopped running and pressing and was decent in possession.

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After the error in the first min, thought Crooks looked the part in a position more suited to him, well done young man.:)

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There throw in should NOT have occured, twas a throw in to us in their half, that the blind get missed.:mad: yeh couldn't tell were you lot are sat.

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It would seem that my earlier assessment of young Master Windass was borne out again tonight !. His reading of the game was poor, he was 'back on his heels' and hence too late to be involved in the play on several occasions, he switches off and becomes immobile now and again, he is easily shunted off the ball, and he gives the ball away more than any other member of the team !. But he can run !.
However he is young and will hopefully develop some understanding of the game.
Matt Crooks did not have a good game. It is I think generally agreed that it is unlikely that he will prove effective as a striker, but has he the defensive know-how in his locker to play at fullback ?...
Rob Atkinson on the other hand stood out as joint MOM with Piero in my opinion using all of HIS defensive skills to nullify in the main the threat coming from Shrewsbury's right flank.
The midfield worked hard but had to contend with two talented young midfielders whose movement and distribution just about gave them control of the engine-room
A word for Scott who handled and kicked well under atrocious conditions and could not be held responsible for the goals !
Sorry to start off my post sounding like an old misery guts, I really do want the best for Josh and Matt and hope that given the right coaching and support they are able to fulfill their potential over the next couple of seasons.!.

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Which position was piero supposed to be playing? I did notice that we were at our most threatening going forward when he was at the front in his usual position. It was a game we should not have lost. It does seem too many of our players are not aware of the where abouts of their colleagues, It does seem we don't talk to each other. I do find a lot of our players don't look up before making the pass. I do worry about the Goalkeeprs distribution and speed at times. I can't understand why play seems to be kept to the far side of the field Across from the main stand. We need to play a wider game and pass the ball more crisply. For the record I am not a Coley lover or hater. Whilst I have no problem with playing a 3-5-2 system we need the right players to play that system for example, Naismith is not a full back neither is piero. But when we did click as a team we were a good match for a much bigger and more physical side. we had them on the back foot for long spells but we switched off at the last minute. I have said previously that we have the ingredients we just need to get the mixture right.

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Bad luck for the free kick, good luck for the penalty, poor finish just before half time then bad marking for the Brookside goal.

Shrews shaded it, had to criticise players in that ice rain stuff, glad we had a roof.

Did the ball boy find the ball the Shrews keeper kicked out on 67ish mins? It didn't leave the ground if you need it pointing out.

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If Bobby had that much affection for Stanley he wouldn't have celebrated his second so elaborately - in fact, his celebration galled me almost more than the fact they scored the winner so late

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After watching J C's post match interview, and acting on his plea, I have taken my own personal Reality Check and realise , when viewing the bigger picture, just how easy it is even after all these years of watching The Reds to slip into the critical mode !.The gulf between last night's opponents, not only pointswise, but also in the size of infrastructure and
the finance available to buy the best, must have made the match a daunting enterprise for our team from the word go !. Which makes the manner with which they faced up to the task all the more praiseworthy.
So our mixture of youngsters and elder statesmen, and lads like Dino who played in spite of taking a bad knock a couple of days ago !. deserve all the plaudits we can muster as they strive once again to secure our League status !.
As for JC who, in spite of everything else, still manages to make some sort of purse out of a sows ear, and whose job must at times make him feel like a dying Zebra surrounded by a flock of hungry vultures, it is imperative that he sees understanding and patience flowing from the Stands ( Dav007 will love that bit !).
Roll on Saturday !.... Roll on The Reds !

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Agree, Yonmon.
Not many weeks ago, had someone had predicted that Stanley would emerge from 3 games against 3 top teams with 3 points, I might have thought them over-optimistic.
Oh and by the way, has anyone else noticed the beneficial effect that their Cup 'glory' has had on both Yeovil and Cambridge?

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Thought he was lucky not get a red for his tantrums on Proccy.

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Just listened to coleys interview and it was an honest appraisal of were we are as a club.
Think most fans know and appreciate that and even if a player has a poor game,won't be harshly criticised as long as he gives everything on the pitch.
Back to the game,we are not a million miles from being a decent team as others have said.
Look how they celebrated the winner against little old Accrington!!!.
Thought Crooks showed what he's about and one towering defensive header confirmed what he has in his locker.
Just a tweak here and there and a bit of luck and we will be ok

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Unfortunately that seems to be a side of his game that he hasn't grown out of :rolleyes:

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The most worrying thing from last night was from Coleys interview saying he hadn't been paid yet. Hopefully nothing too serious like 2009, I hope!

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8 weeks during Dec -Jan without a home game! Little wonder money is tight.

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Worried a bit because last few videos with Coley all he seems to mention is our lack of crowd numbers and small budget wait till next season ( if we are still afloat ) me think,s budget will be worst ever.

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Might be wrong but I think I recall Peter Marsden said James Beattie had the biggest budget the club have ever had, So maybe with a lot of players out of contract in the summer, Coley can find some more young hungry players on peanuts as he has done in the past!

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Ow do, owd lad. Think you're being a bit unfair on us here. I have never heard anyone refer to you as "little". We were all bracing ourselves for a hard match, and we got one. Most of us would have taken a draw before the game.

One thing we are, is fit as a butcher's dog. I believe that's 20 points won in the last 10 minutes of games this season.

Anyway, onwards and upwards for you guys. Good luck for the rest of the season. J.T.

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If Beattie did have the biggest budget at that time Coleman's must be bigger looking at the squad now.

Awful awful interview: 'not making excuses or moaning but......budget... Facilities....Budget.... Resources....budget....supporters...tiredness....'

Give us a break, he took the job, I would guess he knew what the situation was when he took it.

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Not an awful interview in my book. I think Coley is fully justified in calling for a reality check, from the likes of me as much as from anybody. You will find Jim Bentley takes a similar view on his situation at Morecambe, whose poor home form is resulting a lot of adverse comment on Shrimpsvoices, even though they are also punching very well above their weight.

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If you was Coley and week in week out fans were having a go at you, especially when we have just played 4 out of the top 6 teams and been unlucky not to win some of them games, You'd get cheesed off too!

What makes you think its bigger? Hard to tell with all the loan players and what deals were paying their clubs if anything! But we have loaned Carver and Aldred has also gone who you'd think was one of the bigger earners!

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That's a nice reply and a little respect instead of the "tin pot" club that's normally dished out.
Likewise I thought your tempo and pressing was excellent as we normally do that to other teams as we are a very fit team as well

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You have to live within your means,and on our gates that's the only way to survive by getting young lads with a point to prove where playing football comes before money.
If they progress then don't deny them a move for more money

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You also have to live within the rules, I think it's 55% of revenue allowed for players wages. Not a lot you can do with 55% of nowt

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With a club like ours which has an international reputation, Surely we should be attracting big sponsors. I have said on a number of occasions we need to market the club much better. When you look around the area say within 1 hours drive just count how many league clubs there are. This is a low wage area and we need the numbers at current prices however many people just don't have the cash to spare for the luxury of a football match.
I was very worried by JCs comment that he had not been paid. when we are getting gates as low as 919 it is embarrassing for the club, We have more season ticket holders than that, So the big question is how do we get more people to attend and why are so many season ticket holders missing games? Unless we can stop the decline we might as well shut the gates permanently as we can't survive on our current gate receipts or advert income. our hospitality needs to be more attractive . As strong supporters of the club we should all make the effort to attend the supporters club meetings, It is there where we can exchange ideas and try to find a way forward.

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Dont know were yeh get we have more season ticket holders than that chrisr?:confused: I reckon we only got half of 919,most i reckon come anyhow, time of year means flu, me mates missed last couple through it, plus some live well away, so evening matches are a no-no, through work or transport.:)

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I thought the figure was around the 500 mark

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I heard just below 500 Dave, certainly not oer 919.

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I accept that people will miss games through illness and work patterns, However I shall make a point of finding out the exact figure of season ticket holders, I am sure it is much more than 500 and nearer the 900 mark but i can't prove it. The real point is we can not survive on the gates we get, we need at least 2000 to make any headway, A club like ours should be able to command a respectable home crowd of 2000 from a town of 80,000. we all need to work together to attract people to the games.

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Every offer going has been applied, I'm afraid the best attraction is a winning team. There's lots to be done on the 'off-field' side though to get more income

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Don’t need a reality check, the team fight hard to get results, and know we punch above our weight,
managing a club with the smallest budget and lowest gates in the league must be a frustrating job,
J. C’s with his wealth of experience should be able to ride above some fans criticism, the after match interviews with him constantly berating fans for having a point of view is hardly going to help increase match attendances,, alienating the few fans we have is not what our manager should be about

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On another note nice to see Rochdale living up to the peado stereotype

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I prefer John's interviews where he is honest and says what he thinks to Beattie's who just used to say "I'm so proud of those boys in there" and drone on and on and on about nothing.

Guess JB had lots of media training.

Give me Coley's honesty any day of the week!!!

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yeh mean like he was honest with the betting scandal?:rolleyes: