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Surely whether this was a player or a fan hopefully they get a lifetime ban, racism has no place in the modern game and whoever it was deserves whatever punishment they get.

Accrington Stanley probe 'alleged racist incident' at defeat to Newport County - Accrington Observer

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Its good that they are taking it seriously no place for that in the game.

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It would be handy if facts and not allegations were known in the first instance.

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I suppose they can't report about the finer details till the facts are proven, legal eagles and all that:)

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Thats why i think its best to leave it until thats the case.

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Can't say too much as wasn't over involved on the night.

The Welsh press picked the "issue" up his morning and the FA have told us to respond with a very specific timescale hence the developments of today. Now with the Board and the police.

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That's it let's throw the rope over the branch(lynching). Even before they've found a culprit and given him a fair trial!:rolleyes:

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Stanley fan shouted race abuse (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Well its official

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And concluded.

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If yeh knew the proper story, Happen yeh would have kept yer big gob shut.:rolleyes:

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Sorry but am I the only one who thinks that the waffle given by the defence is anything but the person involved is going for the sympathy vote??
Even if this is true, shame the offender didn't think more about his son's feelings on hearing his dad's comments - our club suffers enough from people poking fun without one of our own 'supporters' pouring fuel on the flames - hope the club follows this up by growing some cahunnies & imposing a banning order for this individual

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Another gobbing off that knows sod all about the incident.:rolleyes:

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The oracle cashman strikes again. Judge, jury and perennial know it all.

For once cashman maybe try thinking before typing. Even if you think you know something that offers mitigating circumstances, all the rest of us ill-informed oiks have to go off is the fact that this bloke admitted his actions in front of a magistrate. You can't insult people for making comment on that.

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Ive just insulted you, cos thats what yeh are. I do happen to know which is more than a prat like you does.mind i understand yeh defending accymad.

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Cashy, i was just giving my opinion based on the article in the newspaper & as everyone is entitled to their opinion i don't need 'defending' for doing so & i don't think that's what Shaker was doing - if anyone's being defensive it's you & i understand why but not gonna get into an argument or battle of wills over this, the courts have dealt with it & it's over - doesn't mean i have to like anyone tainting the name of our club in this way.

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Yeh well we all know what crap yeh read in the press, any liverpool fan will verify that fact.:rolleyes: If this matter had been dealt with correctly in the first place it sure would have been another story.:rolleyes:

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Cashman is correct,
Those of us who know the true story, especially how a certain club member of staff and steward lied demonstrates how pathetic the club is run.

This incident has similarities with Jase's incident, with the club acting against its own fans

It's as disgraceful as the inaccuracies found throughout the Lancashire telepraph report.

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here here

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That doesn't excuse cashman's insulting behaviour on this thread. There are other ways to say that there's more to a story than meets the eye.

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No and it dont excuse accymad reckoning to know more than the court, who in these cases invoke a banning order, but in this case chose NOT too, perhaps they were aware of a bit more than you.:rolleyes: Though yeh always had a very high opinion of yerself shaker.

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If you think what you've said is acceptable then there's no hope, which is a shame.

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Some may regard that as insulting, but i dont cos i aint a tart.:rolleyes: Its acceptable if you say summat, yet others like me who call a spade a spade offend those i regard as tarts, thats a shame also.:rolleyes:

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I've called you out on your adolescent posts and you can't take it, simple as. Your nonsense is why many decent posters have left this forum, but I suppose that's because they haven't got the 'guts' to read your posts isn't it cashman? Or maybe it's because they're 'tarts'?

Sad how a grown up can act in such a way; especially sad when it's someone who now puts a lot of time into the club we share support of.

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I suppose my nonsense is why the ultras forum died a death?:rolleyes: or perhaps some people just grew out of things? i dont know really, but obviously one as clever as you knows.:rolleyes: Blame me as well fer why yer blog got stick, which off me it didn't. yeh really are getting a pathetic little runt shaker, thats sad to me,:rolleyes:

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so I'm confused now, did a racist remark not take place?

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By the Newport player,first, which was reported to 4 people, yet no-one at our club said they knew owt about it.:mad:

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It would be helpful if those in possession of the facts that apparently didn't make it into court or maybe just not into the report of court proceedings would enlighten the rest of us, who otherwise are likely to believe what we read, thereby turning ourselves into tarts and runts who ought to keep our gobs shut if what we read upsets us. Hints about dark secrets really aren't helpful.

Cashy's last post arrived after I started this, but still leaves us guessing as to what was said, and why it provoked the response which obviously was reported.

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Stanleys shameless decision to go against one of their best fans instead of supporting one of their own and following the correct procedures.

It's the Jase situation all over again.

Don't trust the club to have your back, there more likely to throw a knife in it.

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Interesting debate as I was once called a racist on this forum!!!.
In reality the bloke (who I know reasonably well) said something (which he admitted) and has been punished.
Those who know him,will admit he is sometimes a volatile person but defiantly not a rascist.
I know his "grievances ",which Cashy relates to,but he's done the best thing and kept his head below the parapet !!
This will all be forgotten in time,as the bloke is gutted at the outcome,but as I said he's definitely no rascist

Scraping the barrel now... how sad and bitter. Your ramblings are water off a duck's back to me but if you can't be man enough to apologise for your earlier posts then as I said previously, there's no hope.

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I would apologize if i had any respect fer yeh. But you have destroyed that.

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I'm devastated.

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We both know the score, and i know yeh aint given to telling untruths, I just hope those who shoulda done in the first instance now do the same.

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I've never met him, wouldn't know him from a bar of soap. :D

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'One of their best fans'??
Strange then that his own defence say he's not really that interested in the club & only goes so that his son can support the team - unless that's one of the things the paper has reported wrongly??
And even if he was the most ardent fan ever, what exactly were the club supposed to do once Newport County had reported the incident to the police?
They can't treat people differently according to how good a fan they are - & the Jason situation was totally different, he only got into trouble trying to help out another fan, not for shouting racial abuse.

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Yer just demonstrating how little yeh know about what went on,:rolleyes: Newport reported it on the Sunday, The fan in question reported racist abuse to himself to 4 stewards on the day it happened, yet our wonderful club said they knew nothing about it, so therefore the investigation should have commenced on the Sat evening, When yeh actually know what yer talking about then what yer saying may be valid.:rolleyes: But still you believe what yeh read in the press, it seems to suit your purpose,

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There is also the fact the LET reporter says he admitted shouting racist abuse in front of a stand packed with children, Total LIE, this happened 20mins after the game, all the Newport Fans had left, there was all the Newport players on the pitch n hardly a soul left on the ground. But still you keep believing crap,:rolleyes:

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Perhaps the fan in question should instead have reported the abuse aimed at him to the police, supported by those who do know what they are talking about, so must have seen the events and therefore been able to bear credible witness? Or perhaps these witnesses might have spoken in his defence/mitigation in court, instead of using a website to slag off people whose purpose simply seems to be to say there is no place for racial abuse on football terraces?

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Accymad

You haven't got a clue son

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I was not there revived red, but i know the guy well and attended the club with him, and heard and witnessed everything said by the club officials, i am also aware of what the investigating policeman told the accused, and what he said certainly DID NOT tally with what the club officials said FACT. Draw yer own conclusion.

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The stewards know for sure and i know some of those 4 told the policeman when he was making enquires.

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I give up, Cashy I have no 'purpose' for making my comments - I don't even know the person involved, which I might suggest would make me more inclined to be neutral about the incident than those who do.
I was actually questioning the reporting of the case in my last post but you seem intent on finding fault with anything I say - I won't be adding anymore to this thread as it's pointless, it's evident no-one can reason with stubbornness.
And Dav007 - maybe I don't have a clue but by calling me 'son' it's obvious that neither do you ��

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I have said a few times the reporting of the case is utter rubbish, the stubbornness to me is you not accepting that fact.

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Forget all the "Chinese whispers ",the bloke went on his own accord to the police station,made a statement,was prosecuted,admitted the charge,and has taken it on the chin.
Pointless continuing the debate as he will probably be following Acci next season as bans aren't normally enforced anyway 😂😂😂

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Hear Hear.

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Pointless continuing the debate as he will probably be following Acci next season as bans aren't normally enforced anyway ������[/QUOTE]

Can you back this statement up?

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Sorry KTF,poor attempt at injecting a bit of humour !

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Race + the Police + the me'dja, + humour?
Stop now, before we're all in the dock.

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Like a couple of other people, I don't understand the vast majority of the posts in this thread.

I do know shouting something overtly racist is bad. Its good the bloke who shouted it has been prosecuted. Hopefully he's had plenty of time to think about what racism is and why the words left his mouth. Hopefully some other folk have thought about it too.

Also, however badly people think he has been treated it pales into insignificance to how bad a victim of racism must feel. Thats also worth thinking about.

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Exactly and as the accused was racially abused firstly, then perhaps thats the reason he retaliated with one racial. word?:rolleyes:

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It's five days now since the report of the court case appeared in LET and still no official statement or response from the club, WHY?
There have been remarks made on this forum/link that allegedly four club personnel were/are fully aware of "what really happened" but for some reason have denied having any knowledge of the incident.
Am I right to assume that what is being suggested by certain individuals is that a conspiracy has taken place in order to bring the individual accused of making racial remarks to court? If so WHY?
The ball is now in the club's court and the longer we have to wait for some form of official statement and outcome as to how they have decided to deal with the individual concerned I'm afraid we will continue to speculate.

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I too am afraid that this torrent of speculation and counter-speculation will unfortunately continue !.
It saddens me to read some of the statements, ill-informed snippets of so-called inside knowledge, and more sadly, the insults linked to these !.
It seems to me that until some resolution is made regarding this whole unfortunate episode occurs and is reported for all to see, that there is a certain futility in pursuing the real truth which is proving so elusive !.
I also feel that much of what has been posted on this thread might well have caused upset and worry to those closely involved in the whole sorry affair. If this is the case then isn't this another reason for a general marking time until real evidence is presented to US !.

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I've closed this thread before anyone drops themselves or the forum in it. Any another threads discussing the same subject or why this thread has been closed will be removed.