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Lemur 22-06-2015 18:11

Nicky Hunt
 
Signed for Mansfield Town.

cashman 22-06-2015 18:17

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Top bloke wish him well.

andyd 23-06-2015 08:35

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Good luck Nicky top bloke had some good crack in Crown with you best wishes see you when we play Mansfield.

Chrisr 24-06-2015 08:33

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we lost a good player there, but good luck Nicki.

smudgie 25-06-2015 08:25

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Face didnt fit, so was never going to play under the so called "messiah" .

Good luck Nicky.

andyd 25-06-2015 09:56

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Nicky,s being joined by Brian Jenson and Scott Shearer 2 keepers in one swoop where,s ours.

football19 25-06-2015 13:07

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Good player,when fit !.
Surprised he's gone to Mansfield as I thought he may have gone abroad for a last pay day.

Exile on Spencer St 25-06-2015 13:13

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Have you been to Mansfield recently, F19?;)

DAV007 28-06-2015 13:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 1143321)
Face didnt fit, so was never going to play under the so called "messiah" .

Good luck Nicky.

Wrong.
His wages didn't fit as he was given a contract the club could barely afford courtesy of the best manager ever James beattie.

cashman 28-06-2015 13:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1143536)
Wrong.
His wages didn't fit as he was given a contract the club could barely afford courtesy of the best manager ever James beattie.

So why was he sat on the bench last season Dav? when certainly not injured.

DAV007 28-06-2015 16:41

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He played towards the end of the season in his correct defensive position.

Not in central midfield like he did for Beattie which was a disaster.

Exile on Spencer St 28-06-2015 17:43

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There lots of talk on here about player's wages but I suspect, like in many instances, it's mainly based on assumption and rumour, rather than fact.
I don't know (nor particularly care) what people I work with are earning.

Just out of interest, Davo, can you let us all in on how you seem to know just how much particular Stanley players are/were earning. I'm not doubting you know such things, but what exactly is the source of your facts. Do you happen to work for HMRC in Bootle by any chance?

cashman 28-06-2015 17:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1143545)
He played towards the end of the season in his correct defensive position.

Not in central midfield like he did for Beattie which was a disaster.

He also sat wi us at n away game and was certainly not injured along wi another player who was, That was under the messiah.:rolleyes: By the way whatever Hunt was on, why did Luke Joyce get offered a worse deal?

Alvin the chipmunk 28-06-2015 19:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1143548)
There lots of talk on here about player's wages but I suspect, like in many instances, it's mainly based on assumption and rumour, rather than fact.
I don't know (nor particularly care) what people I work with are earning.

Just out of interest, Davo, can you let us all in on how you seem to know just how much particular Stanley players are/were earning. I'm not doubting you know such things, but what exactly is the source of your facts. Do you happen to work for HMRC in Bootle by any chance?

An ex Prem player won't have been paid peanuts and our chairman has already admitted BEattie had our largest ever budget. A scholar and a gentleman and a half decent player. However if we can get two young lads in for the same wages it's a no brainier.

Revived Red 28-06-2015 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alvin the chipmunk (Post 1143553)
However if we can get two young lads in for the same wages it's a no brainier.

It's only a no brainier (sic) if the "two young lads" are collectively as good as the player they are replacing.

Do we actually want "young lads" to fill these important defensive positions? We've already signed an untried centre back.

baldy 28-06-2015 20:56

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"Face didnt fit" ahhh, Have you any proof that this is the case Smudgie or just the fact that you're Coleys biggest fan so want to slate him at every given chance?

I heard Luke Joyce signed for Carlisle on not much more money than Coley offered!

Not sure how much Nicky Hunt was on but will have been one of the higher earners, with a few injuries and wrong side of 30 it wasn't a surprise he didn't sign, Certainly think we can get same quality of player if not better for less money!

Lloyd Jones, Anthony Barry and a decent loan keeper and I think were in for a good season!

Alvin the chipmunk 28-06-2015 21:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1143555)
It's only a no brainier (sic) if the "two young lads" are collectively as good as the player they are replacing.

Do we actually want "young lads" to fill these important defensive positions? We've already signed an untried centre back.

That doesn't really need to be said. It's obvious I'm not advocating playing two shire horses at centre back. Coley has a track record of finding hungry young talent. You're making Hunt out to be the next Bobby Moore.

Good job those youngsters Aldred and Edwards scarpered then isn't it. We could sign Messi and folk would still moan.


With our budget keeping Windass and Mingoia is superb and Kee is a coup given his pedigree at this level. Exciting times at the Crown. Just a goalkeeper and Lloyd Jones now please!!! :hothothot

Alvin the chipmunk 28-06-2015 21:15

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Our normal wage budget is roughly £500,000. Beattie was given £670,000 for a promotion challenge. Unless he was trousering the difference I'd suggest that's proof enough wages were significantly higher under his regime as our squad size didn't increase dramatically. Nothing wrong with that at all but anybody who thinks the likes of Odejayi, Hunt and Naylor played for peanuts has lost it.

Here's Peter talking about the 670k.

Stanley could slide without more help (From This Is Lancashire)

cashman 29-06-2015 07:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy (Post 1143561)

I heard Luke Joyce signed for Carlisle on not much more money than Coley offered!

Wrong according to the player himself, he signed fer less, the thing that was better was only bonuses, which yeh dont get if not earned,

baldy 29-06-2015 07:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1143583)
Wrong according to the player himself, he signed fer less, the thing that was better was only bonuses, which yeh dont get if not earned,

You said Joycey got offered a worse deal at Stanley but then went on to sign for Carlisle for less than Stanley offered, is that what you're saying Cashy?

cashman 29-06-2015 08:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy (Post 1143584)
You said Joycey got offered a worse deal at Stanley but then went on to sign for Carlisle for less than Stanley offered, is that what you're saying Cashy?

Thats exactly what Joyce said,

yerself 29-06-2015 10:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007
Wrong.
His wages didn't fit as he was given a contract the club could barely afford courtesy of the best manager ever James beattie.

The haters are at it again. :D:rolleyes:

baldy 29-06-2015 12:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1143590)
Thats exactly what Joyce said,

So if he signed for Carlisle on less money than we offered, our offer can't have been that bad? :confused:

cashman 29-06-2015 12:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy (Post 1143609)
So if he signed for Carlisle on less money than we offered, our offer can't have been that bad? :confused:

The question yeh need to ask yerself is why?

baldy 29-06-2015 13:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1143610)
The question yeh need to ask yerself is why?

In his Carlisle interview he says better facilities and better crowds, We also offered him a 3 year deal!

Not sure how much more we could have done to keep him?

cashman 29-06-2015 18:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy (Post 1143615)
In his Carlisle interview he says better facilities and better crowds, We also offered him a 3 year deal!

Not sure how much more we could have done to keep him?

In my view they didn't want to keep him, it aint hard to figure.

Tom D 29-06-2015 19:03

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A three year deal? That's a pretty significant message from Stanley saying they wanted him to stay, JC is rarely involved in a players contract of over 12 months, think all the rest of the signings this summer have been for just a year

cashman 29-06-2015 19:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom D (Post 1143631)
A three year deal? That's a pretty significant message from Stanley saying they wanted him to stay, JC is rarely involved in a players contract of over 12 months, think all the rest of the signings this summer have been for just a year

Dream on.:rolleyes:

Tom D 29-06-2015 19:29

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That's what baldy said... From his interview at carlisle it seems we could have offered something pretty decent, it's just Luke was pretty determined to go back to carlisle..... facilities, unfinished business etc

baldy 29-06-2015 19:55

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We offered him a 3 year deal, Carlisle offered him 2 years with an option for a 3rd!

Chewbacca 29-06-2015 20:11

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If the bonuses referred to are Loyalty Payments they are guaranteed incremental payments even if you leave and you didn't request a transfer.

As clubs have different pay structures it isn't just about comparing weekly wages.

fc:stanley 29-06-2015 20:18

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Joyce moved for better facilties, unfinished business, family and friends, bigger club, big attendances, wanted to play infront of 1000+ away crowds etc. It was a move he really wanted to make.

I cashy i just think you base everything about your dislike for John which i honestly dont get.

You could easily see from the end of season do in the crown that John and Nicky were fine, both sat next to each other drinking and chatting away.

Coleman has made some superb signings already, back him!!

cashman 29-06-2015 20:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fc:stanley (Post 1143652)
Joyce moved for better facilties, unfinished business, family and friends, bigger club, big attendances, wanted to play infront of 1000+ away crowds etc. It was a move he really wanted to make.

I cashy i just think you base everything about your dislike for John which i honestly dont get.

You could easily see from the end of season do in the crown that John and Nicky were fine, both sat next to each other drinking and chatting away.

Coleman has made some superb signings already, back him!!

Believe what yeh want, i dont really give a stuff. Yeh havent seen me knock his signings in fact have said i'm fine with em, Dont mean i have to like the guy, and i will back the team any day.

baldy 29-06-2015 21:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1143630)
In my view they didn't want to keep him, it aint hard to figure.

Please explain your reasoning for thinking this...

cashman 30-06-2015 06:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy (Post 1143672)
Please explain your reasoning for thinking this...

I will tell yeh to yer face Baldy if yeh really want to know.

baldy 30-06-2015 06:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1143686)
I will tell yeh to yer face Baldy if yeh really want to know.

Just a simple question, If we offer a better basic wage, a definite 3 year contract (which I believe would have been a first at this club) where Carlisle was only 2 with maybe a 3rd and he would have been club captain!!

Please tell me why you think John and Jimmy didn't want to keep him?

cashman 30-06-2015 07:24

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Are yeh really that dumb? or are yeh just trying to drop me in it.?:rolleyes:

Tom D 30-06-2015 07:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy (Post 1143687)
Just a simple question, If we offer a better basic wage, a definite 3 year contract (which I believe would have been a first at this club) where Carlisle was only 2 with maybe a 3rd and he would have been club captain!!

Please tell me why you think John and Jimmy didn't want to keep him?

And, as Luke said in his interview, Stanley is a short commute from home. Sounds like he was pretty determined to play at carlisle, for the reasons given by fc stanley.

cashman 30-06-2015 10:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom D (Post 1143694)
And, as Luke said in his interview, Stanley is a short commute from home. Sounds like he was pretty determined to play at carlisle, for the reasons given by fc stanley.

Those reasons plus some he didn't mention fer obvious reasons.

Tom D 30-06-2015 10:18

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I don't understand..... are you saying that the management didn't want to keep him (like you said further up this thread) - which makes no sense as we offered him a seemingly better contract than Carlisle, and you don't offer contracts to players you don't want to keep, especially with our budget. Or are you saying he didn't want to stay - which is obvious because of everything he has said about his desire to play for Carlisle.

Of course he might have other reasons that he wants to keep private - just like anyone anywhere who is moving jobs. But are you implying there is something more sinister happening behind the scenes?

cashman 30-06-2015 10:52

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No i'm not implying anything, many footballers move from many clubs and they never hardly tell the real reasons, cos they dont want to harm themselves or their mates who are still there. its not rocket science, but it seems like it is to me.:rolleyes:plus some of the private stuff they normally tell mates.

baldy 30-06-2015 14:34

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Not quite sure why people come out and say things like "They didn't want to keep him, it ain't hard to figure" but then not back up the reason for saying it!

Like the playground "I know something you don't know, but I'm not tell you" :rolleyes:

cashman 30-06-2015 14:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy (Post 1143710)
Not quite sure why people come out and say things like "They didn't want to keep him, it ain't hard to figure" but then not back up the reason for saying it!

Like the playground "I know something you don't know, but I'm not tell you" :rolleyes:

Well i didn't have yeh down as stupid baldy, but i take it back.:rolleyes:

baldy 30-06-2015 14:58

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You didn't just avoid the question again did you Cashy? Deary me!

cashman 30-06-2015 15:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy (Post 1143713)
You didn't just avoid the question again did you Cashy? Deary me!

I did offer to tell yeh, but stupidly yeh carry on.:rolleyes:

Tom D 30-06-2015 15:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1143707)
No i'm not implying anything, many footballers move from many clubs and they never hardly tell the real reasons, cos they dont want to harm themselves or their mates who are still there. its not rocket science, but it seems like it is to me.:rolleyes:plus some of the private stuff they normally tell mates.

So why do you think/what evidence is there that the management didn't want to keep him?

cashman 30-06-2015 15:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom D (Post 1143720)
So why do you think/what evidence is there that the management didn't want to keep him?

Read what i said earlier or is that a bit difficult?:rolleyes:

Tom D 30-06-2015 15:51

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No, reading is easy, but the problem is in what you have (or haven't) written.

You haven't really said anything. Except that you won't say it on the forum, only to someones face. So why bring it up?

If only I knew how to add some sort of emoticon at the end of every sentence. That would add some gravitas or substance.... Or I could finish with an insult to someones intelligence e.g. I didn't have you down as stupid, are you really that dumb.

Have you heard the philosophical thought experiment 'if a tree falls in the forest and no-one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?'.

Anyway best of luck to Joyce, good player.

cashman 30-06-2015 16:00

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy (Post 1143584)
You said Joycey got offered a worse deal at Stanley but then went on to sign for Carlisle for less than Stanley offered, is that what you're saying Cashy?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1143590)
Thats exactly what Joyce said,

I explained in later posts why i couldn't say, TomD if after reading these yeh can't grasp why, thats your problem not mine.:rolleyes:

Tom D 30-06-2015 16:15

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Boom! And there's the emoticon! Half marks only for the implied slight on my intelligence. Should have gone full insult, Cashman.

I literally cannot wait for the season to start again. Might mean some discussion on actual events, rather than conjecture, guesswork and inference. Some of the threads recently have been like trying to crack the enigma code!

cashman 30-06-2015 16:44

Re: Nicky Hunt
 
Nah you aint earned it yet TomD.


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