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Never posted one before Wombles on Tuesday first of 3 home league games out of 4 would be nice to win all 3, no Crooks,y Tuesday who comes into the starting line up maybe a home debut for Kaid Mohammed your thoughts please.

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Andy Procter to fill the boots of Matt for me! If we create half the chances as we did down at home park we should get a bag full of goals :)

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If Dr. Proctor is to come in, Mr.Conneely will need to switch role and become the creator in the middle.
Much as I like Proccy, he doesn't naturally do the same job as Mr. Crooks has been doing lately who has been able to flourish because Conneely does a lot of covering and tidying up.

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Crooksy missed a real sitter at Plymouth, but will be a real miss on tuesday i think, but we got one hell of a squad so i just accept whoever comes in.:)

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Would be nice to think Tom will be back to police Akinfenwa. Anyone know how close he is to returning?

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Can't see Tom playing for a while,think the bone bruising he's got takes time and plenty of rest.
Hope Buckos injury is not too serious as he's hit a bit of form.
It goes to show how good our squad is when arguably two of our form players are missing and still turn out a top performance against top of the league.
Things are looking good and when these lads return (with terry getting his fitness back) will provide real competition.

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Is it 20 on the gate or can you get any cheaper

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Come wearing a banana costume, they'll let you in for free! ;)

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Ha ha �� I would have but I didn't have enough room in my case.

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According to Radio Lancs today, Bucko is out with an illness so that's 2 key players missing. Some big boots to fill.

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t cmon you reds :D there's only one accy Stanley

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Agree with redraine!
Akinfenwa is amazing with his size & age 33 he is still so agile and dangerous, one of those players we dislike in opposition but would love as one of our own

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Sat here in Lanzarote....BBC sport tells me it's 3-3 at half time! ...What is going on ??

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Incidentally....Is there text coverage from the ground tonight ??..can't see any guidelines and BBC is very slow !!.

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3-4 ???? I can't believe what I'm reading on t'BBC !!

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Why take off a defender and attacker n out 2 midfielders on! Where's the flamin logic in that!!! Hasn't he learned anything from Exeter game, the so called messiah is costing us points with his stupid flipping substitutions

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FA19 !!...what DID go wrong ??...I'm on tenterhooks here !!

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Kicked off 2nd half and it was all in our half, they then scored and that was it all we could do was hoof it up front only for them to win every header. Went close with a free kick right at the death but that was it. Got to say their finishing was pretty good though.

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First half we passed it around nicely at times kee, mingola and mcconville doing well as well as there goals Second half we created very little with to much long ball for my liking. The defenders who have come in seem to only half clear the ball and have not as good a distribution compared to Davies. At least next game is only Saturday to get it out of our system.

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We were struggling in midfield without Crooksy - Josh cannot play that position.

Coley corrected the formation mistake at half time but by then Deano had to come off injured -think that was the straw that broke the camels back in terms of the defence - no way we'd have lost with Davies Deano Pearson and Bucko at the back.

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Crazy game. We did our usual trick when Coley starts bigging us up in the media and missed a golden chance to consolidate some great performances with a surrender at home. Criminal to give up a 2 goal lead, but make no mistake, we got what we deserved. In the face of the Don's pace and deadly finishing we went to pieces and could barely string two passes together. Defence all at sea after the enforced changes but we weren't at the races in the second half. Good to see McConville's fine finish plus Billy hitting the net again but there was not much else to enthuse an improved crowd, many of who will probably go missing on Saturday. Halliday impressed me though, going forward at least, and did OK in defence. Pearson had a stinker and looks uncomfortable at left back. We badly need Davies back.

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Why did we start with a right back playing left back? ridiculous, assuming dino was injured then 2 ridiculous substitutions at half time, Bruna is never a full back, the other sub was proccy, who himself got substituted ridiculous again, The tactics ive witnessed better on playing fields with kids. 3 pts given away, imho.:mad:

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Well Winnard was injured due to the off the ball stamp that the ref did,nt see Gornell to me was way off the pace Windass can,t play the deep midfield role add that to a completly decimated excellent back 4 and I think we did well to stay in the game with only 1 goal in it, they exploited our weaknesses and were faster to the second ball and I think shaded it on the night not too worried when we can score 3with all that happening we,ll be alright I,m sure with all our players back and fit.

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So we don't have anymore defenders or strikers?

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We started off like an express train 2-0 up after 10 minutes. What happened in the next 80 is beyond comprehension. We could and should have won that game easily yet we went to sleep and weren't at the races. Once again some strange substitutions. And once again Radio Lancs is at our game. Please don't come again. 5hat is 2 in a row we have lost when they are there!

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Sadly we don't have the quality in reserve. we started off lively two goals up 10 mins. This is it I thought. but it went downhill rapid from there on in. we were out classed. they were good for the win. we deserved nothing. every player had a bad night including the reliables. we can't stand any more losses like this. I just hope some of the injured are back sooner than later.

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Oh dear !!,I thought there would be goals,but I thought we made a big mistake playing 4-4-2.
Good player josh but he's not a centre mid as tackling and heading are his strongest parts of his game.
We went two up and I don't think he touched the ball,
We knew how they would play and we had to defend the second balls,that's why two holding mids would be key.
I suspect we went that way to play Terry and it seemed to be working be we went more and more direct which isn't our game.
I know coley swapped it at half time and took terry off to revert back to our 4-2-3-1,
Three of our back four had never really experienced big Akinfenwa and his mate ,but they will know all about him now.
He's always caused us problems and you don't give cheap free kicks/corners/throws away.
They basically bullied us and a few lads went in their shells which was disappointing.
We are a better team than we shown tonight,but the formation and tactics played into their hands.
It won't be easy on Saturday either KTF

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Very frustrated after tonight. The disruption to our early season excellent back four cost us tonight and showed up frailties in our squad. After a super start with two goals from Billy I thought that we would go on to get an easy victory. The ref did well in trying to play advantage but allowed Akinfenwa to get it away with even more of his usual pushing before the ball arrived anywhere near him!
We let them back into the game by taking our foot off the gas and gifting them a soft first goal. This gave The Dons the impetus to take the game to us and without Crooks in midfield they began to overun us. They started to play some really slick ,quick attacking football which we could not deal with and they equalised deservedly.
When we got the third goal with a great lay off from Terry for Sean to finish expertly I thought that we had weathered their storm. However, the enforced substitution of Deano at half time really affected our balance and shape. Pearson did not seem happy playing at the left centre back position and I don't think he made a proper pass after half time! Bruna was brought on at left back where he is inexperienced and he was under the cosh from the start of the second half. Was Terry injured or was the substitution 'tactical'? Procky did not get with the pace of the game at all. They continued to play a high paced flowing style of football and in the end they fully deserved the victory. The new lad Halliday did ok and played quite well in the second half when the rest of our boys were 'drowning' under the pressure!
Taylor was a real handful, how I wish we had a player like him!
Coley will learn from this I am sure and to his credit on Radio Lancashire he wasn't making any excuses regarding the injuries to key defenders! I will though!
We have now lost four of our five first choice players form the solid defence of earlier in the season. I hope that we can get Deano fit for saturday or else I fear we will have another match under extreme defensive pressure!:(
KEEP THE FAITH
ON STANLEY ON

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Your diplomatic mate, the tactics were bloody abysmal.

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I disagree we do have a quality bench and some good young lads but any side that loses 3 of it,s back 4 would struggle plus no Crooks,y who,s been immense and we still score 3 and but for a good tip over the bar at the death well, alright we did,nt play as well as we have been doing but compared to some previous seasons we kept going till the death I for one think we,ve a good side here and if we keep behind them plus the injured lads back we won,t be far from the top.

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Think everyone who goes regular would agree we got a good side. Yer mentioning nowt about the crap tactics tonight though andyd.

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The saddest sight of the night for me was to see our sub subbed. When you compare Proccy's agricultural toiling in midfield with Crookes's newly acquired skills it makes you wonder if Andy has a future at this level any more. He looked like yesterday's man I'm sorry to say.

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Much respect for Coley for his video comments on the game. Cashy, I bet nobody was complaining about our tactics when the second goal went in, were they?

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I've been thinking the same since he returned!

Most of his game has always been running round like a headless chicken, Which worked well but I think with the injuries he's had and age not on his side I think he may be struggling!

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The question was asked by the group behind us, why Pearson was playing left back before anyone scored.

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The midfield were out of position after 10 mins sloppy wasn't the word I thought wow then back to same old Stanley. Still missing key players wouldn't have helped I think I'm a jinx lol

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Presumably because we've just signed a right back to cover for Wakefield's injury!

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The guy was like a fish outa water yon, though their 2nd goal came from one of the foulest throws ive ever seen.

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Checked the score 4 times while slaving away;2-0 ,3-2,3-4, 3-4. Gutted.

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Don't worry, mate. All part of the wonderful Stanley supporting roller coaster.

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The most repeated phrase from the Wimbledon manager to his players last night..."second ball". Seems it paid off

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hardly won any second balls after half an hour. no central midfield and a patched up make shift defence so we decide to go 2 up front. ok it worked for 10 mins. or so but after that they took over. a lot of iffs in football. if they hadn,t got their first goal as quickly or the equaliser just before half time things might have been different. the annoying thing they were there for the taking but too many players out of position who had stinkers. onward to dag and red on Saturday. another game where everything that can go wrong will go wrong. bet we,ll have Jeremy simpson or Geoff eltringham in the middle for these.

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If Simpson gets changed quickly he could make it, he's 4th official at Deadwood on Saturday :)

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Have to disagree mate, to me it avoided the issue completely of wrong tactics,

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Out of curiosity, What would your team and tactics have been?

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Sat behind me the up field long ball tactical genius,s were quiet at 2-0 up then at 2-2 came the usual can,t pass useless get it up field came alive at 3-4 down they seem to find their full vocabulary I wonder do they really like us to win or do they just prefer moaning and these are people who have been watching for a long while but their knowledge of the beautiful game is nil.

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if we played the game again would the tactics be the same. think not.

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With the absence of Mr.Crooks' last night I did wonder whether Mr.Barry might get a start last night. He had quite a good game last season at Wimbledon. Probably wouldn't have made much difference, but at least he wants to play midfield.
What price a genuine left back in League 2?
But there are no bad teams or easy games. Even Crawley, who looked awful when Stanley tupped them, beat Luton on Saturday. The Daggers will be equally tough.
Certainly the case that, whenever Professor Coleman goes on the fishy site to exhort more people to come and watch Stanley, they seem to lose.
Onwards and onwards.

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Our first two goals had nothing to do with our set up and were from freekicks.
Coleys wise enough to know you have to defend second balls against them and we didn't.
Didn't their centre mid score two,along with big Akis strike partner?.
The other disappointing one was we struggled to consistently hold an high-line,playing into their hands.
Coley changing things at halftime (and we weren't losing),suggests he realised our set up wasn't right for a team like Wimbledon
Positives,Sean with a goal and two assists.

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A free kick may never have occured if we hadn't given em the ball deep in with that foul throw?

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Come on Cashy, don't be like your nemesis the PM at Wednesday's questions. How about answering Baldy's question

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To be fair to Cashy :eek:, without agreeing with him about JC and wishing he'd change the record occasionally :D, he's not paid to answer those questions - he pays to watch so is entitled to ask them ....

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I,m sorry but I have to agree with you on this one Redraine sadly Procky who as been fantastic for Stanley looks like he,s coming to the end of his tenure with us hope I,m proved wrong wether Barry would have done any better on the night is anybody,s guess, just wondering if JC and JB where having one last look at Procky in a game senerio and have to make a hard decision on Procky,s future.

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Sorry Andy, There can be no excuse for such a loss. Players have to be able to play out of position if needs be. We do have a great squad when fit. but we should be able to slot players in as needed. The manager accepts the blame for the tactics the players have to accept their share of the blame. There were one or two postives, the on loan Halliday was a good addition who was breath taking going forward. Bruna got a run out. although he struggled at left back, His free kick at the end was brilliant, He should play an attacking role more often, He is a little ring rusty but prolific when given a decent run out.

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I thought up and till half time it was end to end exciting football but from the start of 2nd half the Wombles looked dominate, a superb goal & performance from Lyle Taylor settled the game, on the night we lost to a better team

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It,s not excuses after playing and watching the game for 52 years football is about quality,experience,bit of luck and if your near the top of any table most teams play with a settled side uninterupted by injuries and suspensions, what I,m saying but for a well executed good brilliant turn and finishing by Tyler which was good enough to win any game we would have had a point with all the changes. When we get well beaten I,m the first to hold my hands up and say well done, but last night I thought we did just enough for a draw.

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Completely agree, didn't make the result any easier to take though - neither did that golden nugget 'good game for a neutral' which has been quoted at me about half a dozen times today - of course I nodded but inside was screaming 'maybe so but I'm not a b****y neutral :(

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Play people in a position thats not alien to em, or thought you may have understood that fact redraine? never expected baldy to, simple is far too technical fer him.:rolleyes: and as i had already stated it, i'm beginning to wonder.:rolleyes:The man you said respect about, completely avoided that issue, choosing instead to blame the players, every team will be weaker with 3/4 key players missing, fact, weaken the team even more by playing people outa position, is that so difficult to grasp?

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So are you going to answer the question I asked or dodge it like you said the "Football Genius" has?

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No, it's not difficult to grasp and I do understand your point of view, but under the circumstances Coley found himself in with injuries/illness before kick off, exactly what team would you have picked, position wise? I , for one, was pleasantly surprised that we went 2 up front at home for a change and it seemed to work for a while until Coley changed things around.

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As i said certainly not start wi a right back on the left. 2 up front at home sure dont bother me any, but Terry wasn't at the races,? joss seemed too deep, and what about replacing the injured dino with an attacking player? how is that remotely sensible?

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Don't wish to intrude on the coaching session, but have just watched the goals and the one thing that amazed me was how 'bright' it was. Have they put some 100 watt bulbs in the floodlights, or were they using night-vision cameras?

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Even though I agree he had a bad game there, you'd think the natural backup to a left back would be a right back? I'd be interested to hear who you'd have put at left back instead seeing as we don't have any in reserve?? Or should we just not play with a left back because we had none?

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Sorry but the blame for the defeat lies squarely with John Coleman.

Keeping his other left back a secret and choosing not to play him is just not on. That added to how he intentionally injured three our four starting defenders before kick off... then using his pea shooter to take out Dean during the game?! Urgh. I also thought the way he applied to the FA to make sure Matt Crooks received a fifth yellow card and consequential 1 match suspension was disgusting.

Change at the top needed.

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Personally i would have played conneely back, hes done it before.

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The blame does lie there no question at all,its not about a change at the top, thats never been mentioned, but as yeh crave attention from some you think what yeh want shaker.:rolleyes:

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Right were getting somewhere here Cashy...Conneely as LB.

Now for the other 10 positions...

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So now our only available dependable center mid is covering left back?

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In the second half we had our first choice forward four playing and hardly got a sniff,so Wimbledon deserve credit.
Pearson can play left back and was our only option (unless dean played there)I just think we stood off them a little and they capitalised.
I thought before the game they would be open to pace behind their centre backs and was disappointed windass was played deeper.
Would have liked Kaid to have been involved as he's got genuine pace,and Barry can play right back,so there were options.
Must admit I was impressed with their centre mid,he ran the game in the second half and couldn't half get around for a 35 year old.
Hope we get a response on Saturday KTF

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You must have watched him somewhere else Chris, he hasn't been given a decent run out mainly because he's not consistent. You could argue he's not consistent because he doesn't get a good run, Chicken & Egg, but he's the one who has to prove his consistency. He's a flair player, good on his day but not enough days, like most flair players. In League 2 that's difficult for somebody like Bruna, he would be better off in the higher leagues where you get to play a bit more football than thugball.

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Disagree, pierro could do the job also, but lets move to half time, dino is injured, no-ones addressed the fact that Bruna replaced him?is everyone afraid to criticize the messiah? the guy to my knowledge has NEVER played full back? hes an attacking midfield player, also at half time we were NOT losing, Connelly has also played defender, whilst hes been excellent this season in midfield, no-one was really setting the world alight tuesday night, so i can see other options than poor owd Bruna, Barry was also on the bench,he can defend also, It makes me puke the way some defend the defenseless,

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To be fair Tuesday nights game was lost in the midfield where most games are decided Young Josh had a nightmare 1st, half against 35yrs, young Dannie Bulman ok others were below par including Matty but he has played on the left before and played ok, I IMHO think the big mistake of the night was playing Josh in a role which is alien to him and he says himself on Twitter he had a bad game hopefully lessons learned and we move on.

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Don't think we did too bad last season when Coley was forced to play Piero and Kal as defensive RB/LB due to injury, So why not try Bruna there?

Coley has admitted that maybe we aren't as good as he thought, Fair play for him trying to be attacking (Wimbledon had conceded 5 in the last game and 3 by HT in our game) than sit back and try to sneak a winner!

It cost us the game but id much rather us play attacking football, especially at home, Backfired on Tuesday but with the team we've got i'm sure we will win more than we lose playing like that at home!

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Because we had options that had played defence before, is that so hard to grasp? I also prefer attacking footy at home, but yeh gotta cut yer cloth, dinos injury was a real disruption imho.

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That's how I saw it Andy,you could say it was a bold move playing him there and maybe on another day paid off,but for me he's a talented offensive player,but when we don't have the ball,sometimes switches off.
For me I would have moved pierro to fullback and give kaid a start with proccy starting (terry missing out) and sheilding:screening the back four,winning the second balls.
It's all about opinions and although it's a good debating topic,coley knows his players better than us.
Plymouth away on Saturday,then a game on Tuesday,did that have a bearing? As we died in the second half

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Yes!:cool::bigglasse
I noticed that too Exile!;)
A pity our play and tactics were not as bright on the night!:confused:

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Very interesting reading all the theories about tactics and how management are trying to cope, or failing to cope, with the injuries and substitution situations!

I think that I would be correct in saying, that with a fully fit squad, Coley and Jimmy's first choice back four would be;

Pearson Davies Deano Bucko

On Tuesday we started with only two of these;
Deano at right centre back and Pearson at left back.
So we only had one of the preferred back four playing in their normal position.
When Deano had to stay in the dressing room after half time we had to move Pearson to left centre back and try Bruna at left back......
So we had NONE of the preferred back four playing in their best position!
As I said in an earlier reply, Pearson did not seem comfortable in this position but that is not meant as a slight on his ability....he has done really well for us this season! From half time onwards he was obviously aware of the limitations in Bruna's experience at left back and was under extra pressure too as our midfield defended too deep in the second half. The pressure laid heavily on him and, for an inexperienced league player, he was more or less having to play a 'Captains role' at the back and in addition his own clearances were not up to his usual standard and added to the pressure.......re long throw ins etc! Just remember guys that Matt Pearson has only just come into the football league from non league!
Matt was the only one of four of our preferred back four in the second half so we were obviously going to struggle!
Give credit here to the Dons manager and players. They spotted our weaknesses and like good professionals they did a 'job' on us in the second half and won the game fair and square.
I don't think that Coley and Jimmy's tactics actually had too much to do with the result from half time onwards and I think that some of you guys are reading too much into the tactics etc!
What we need is a bit of good fortune at the moment in getting our back four fit ASAP so that we can restore the solid base at the back on which our early season form was based.
Here's hoping we have some fit defenders back on Saturday!
ON STANLEY ON:wave8::signbeer::drink: