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Please STANLEY please..3 points,,,3 points,,,3points god dam it.:mad:
I really don't like Carlisle after the last result.

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I really don't like Carlisle after the last result.[/QUOTE]

they don,t like us either after coleys remarks taken out of context.

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So, Proccy and Rommy in for the absent pair. Good luck to both!

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Oh fff...iddlesticks :mad:

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Score a fair reflection of game. Despite being a man down Carlisle controlled first half. With there physical long balls and defensively disciplined approach. We came into a bit towards the end of half. Then we had are man sent off it opened the pitch up, we equalised (good ball from mcconville and finish from Terry). From there we used width and for me, Stanley where the only team who where going to win it. After sending off there man early on the referree seemed very keen to even up the numbers and Carlisle where trying to cheat someone off at every opportunity (they reminded me of horribleness of Stevenage in our play off season and Rotherham of the same era). The referree made some strange decisions. I felt proccy battled well but as was pointed out to me leaving the ground we missed crooks linking up play and his quality.

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When did Carlisle and their fans become so vile?

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Agree with the above post, first half we just weren't in it - ref didn't help matters giving almost everything the baying Carlisle fans shouted for & some of his decisions were indeed bizarre to say the least (I began to think he was making it up as he went along)
We improved 2nd half & deserved the equaliser, good work from Super Sean for Terry's goal - disappointed with the game as a whole but I suppose if we can manage to get something from a game when we haven't played particularly well & go up to 4th it's not all bad

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Sad loss with Bucko getting a red. we can't afford to lose him for 3 games. Sad to see Joe wright being subbed looked like a knock, Hope he is going to be OK. Tom Davies played a blinder. Good crowd just over 2000. The game didn't really open up until we went down to 10 men each side. Over all I still think we have a lot of work to do on communication and our passing. It was dire. We seem to struggle to change tactics against strong teams. we were outplayed for long periods and were lucky not be more tan 1-0 down at half time. Second half almost a repeat of Saturday we had our chances but simply could not put them away. Oxford here we come.

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Chris, it was Matty Pearson who was subbed - seemed to be struggling with his lower back

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As others have said, we played better when down to 10 apiece. But what has Liam Wakefield done to not get a shout, or maybe he will play Saturday to replace Bucko. Not impressed with Carlisle at all. Came here to dive and fall about and play act to con the referee, at least he didn't fall the penalty theatrics they tried, instead booking their player for simulation. Proccy played really well as did Sean Mac, but he must learn not to get involved with the referee or he too will become another red card statistic. And what is it with the Carlisle fans that they have to shout and scream at Stanley fans after the game and attempt to damage cars as one did to my vehicle (no damage done luckily). What a bunch of pillocks. Get over it, you only got a point, which I think was a fair reflection of the game. Up to 4th, will be interesting to see what team JC puts out on Saturday, but I think both Terry Gornell and Proccy must start and the aforementioned Liam Wakefield for Bucko.

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I thought it was a second yellow?

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Buxton was a second yellow so only a one match ban also it was Pearson who went off holding is back lucky he still had his head on Carlisle came with a typically bad side spoiling dirty game tactics and to an extent they worked they went away with a point as for us we were without 4 first team regulars struggled to get going but saying that we gifted them the goal and when we started to play their only looked like being one winner excellent save by their keeper from Billy another night that would have been game winner, the squad is being tested now let,s keep going and surprise Oxford in their backyard Saturday and we could go all the way this season.

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Got to say was really pleased with Luke Joyce at the end of the game:alright:

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In brief; A poor match on a cold and windy night! A draw was probably a fair outcome.:cool:
Stanley definitely missed the presence of Crooks.:hidewall:
In the first half Rommy tried very hard but found it difficult to link with team mates basically new to him. Procky was not at the races in the first half. He seemed to either take up positions too high up the pitch when our defenders were looking to play the ball through midfield and then he seemed to sit too deep when Carlisle were in possession and moving forward. He got into the game more in the second half which was down to his fantastic work ethic which we know so well from the past.
With Crooks missing though, the fluidity of our passing was somewhat stuttering. Although Seamus got a lot of ball he was having to take longer to find players to pass to or spaces to pass into for players to pick up.
Carlisle did there homework and closed down Pierro very quickly every time he got the ball or when he was looking to receive the ball. Pierro still had a good game though and got lots of quality balls in from the wing.:)
The early sending off seemed to work in Carlisle's favour as they looked for the first 40 minutes to be the team with a man advantage! They wasted time at every opportunity! Error of judgement by Bucko to go for a back pass when he was so wide and deep which set up their centre forward. The lad had a bit to do though and he found the net expertly from a narrowing angle! Carlisle really started to wast time then!:confused::(
We got into the game more in the second half and we were building up the pressure when Bucko got a second Yellow Card for a 'something and nothing' sort of tackle! Like on saturday the extra space seemed to work to our advantage and we began to put together some better moves. Sean Mac had to modify his usual wide attacking role by sitting deeper more like a high line left back. Sean did well though to get his second ball in for Terry to glance a lovely header in at the near post. :alright:
At this point I thought that we would go onto win the match but to Carlisle's credit they pressed for a winner too. However, their approach was somewhat 'Route 1' especially with the use of the long throw in which was bombed into our penalty box almost constantly!
A draw was probably a fair result in the end and we move up to fourth place now. Next saturday's match away at Oxford becomes even more important now though. Bucko will be missed now too of course.
Lets hope John and Jimmy can get the selection right for Saturday to stop Oxford but also to give us a chance of a WIN!
Luke Joyce had the usual sort of 'Luke Joyce' game that he used to have for us but he got a bit of nice applause and a song from The Ultras when he came up to the corner between the Clayton End and the Main Stand.:wave:
ON STANLEY ON:theband:

ps some Dodgy refereeing again tonight!!!

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Sorry you were right. braindead again.

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Ref was shocking.

Sent their man off early but then spent the rest of the matching punishing us for it.

The inconsistency was the main thing - Stanley play kicks the ball after the whistle? - booking. Carlisle player does the same? - nothing happens. Their number 9 was all elbows all damned game and was never punished for it - he only got booked for a dive in the last ten minutes.

The second yellow for Buxton was a joke given what else was going on - a slightly late tackle on the edge of their penalty box - never more than a foul in a million years but the ref had made his mind up he was going to level up the teams.

Pretty sure I saw Uriah Rennie after the game - presumably in some capacity of watching over the refs?

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Highlights up already:

http://www.skysports.com/football/ac...arlisle/340900

Definitely a red for their man and I stand by the fact Bucko's second yellow was damned harsh.

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for once we all seem to be in agreement about the game. Carlisle seemed to class this as their cup final the way they played. if they played like that every week surely they should be a lot higher up than they are even without their games in hand. was the early challenge on matty pearson pre meditated. crock one of our influential players early and you might get away with it as rarely cards come out in the first few mins. for once simpson did something right but went downhill to his normal standard quickly. was wary of him doing this game from the outset and have been proved correct. would have taken a point before the game though.

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Good job it wasn't in Argentina? A refs been shot dead by a player he red carded.:eek:

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You could be right there, I knew I recognised the face, couldn't put a name to it though. He was sat at the back of the main stand behind Jim Bentley, making notes on a laptop. Someone said one of cashman's heroes (a Mr. Cook) was also in attendance.

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I was hoping there would be some thing reported about the Carlisle manager facing up the ref in the middle of the pitch for a while and then clapping the away supporters, Surely this would have been a sending off for any manager or off field team support. Perhaps his words may have influenced the referee for the second half. which ever way the FA should act on this as he did hold up the officials leaving the field of play, It may well be intimidation.

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In a funny way i enjoyed the game,played on a bobbly pitch and tricky conditions.
The first sending off was a complete joke and i can only assume the ref thought Bucko led with his forearm.
Carlisle were very good without the ball and pressed us all over the pitch.
Felt sorry for Proccy and Rommy as they struggled to get into the game.
Couldn't believe it when Carlisle took Hope off (played for Bury against us),he was the most dangerous player on the park and give Halliday a torrid time in the final third.
Big plus for me was the return of Tom,who soon got in the groove and dealt with the Ariel bombardment comfortably.
Good point for me,as i said,they are a decent,fit,hardworking team

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Well it was a strange and unusual game to say the least !. From the early booking via which the Referee made a heavy rod for his own back as far as his controlling the remaining 89 minutes were concerned, to the closing minutes when a Stanley win seemed to definitely be on the cards.
The disappointments ?... Stanley s exorbitant use of long high balls, which made Billy s job not that easy!, although my admiration of his control, hold-up, and laying off of the ball grows week by week !. Perhaps the inconsistent playing surface dictated the aerial route for passing
who knows ?.
I was appalled, as will be all who viewed the highlights, by the behaviour of the Carlisle No 5 as he berated the Referee to get Adam sent off...followed by a juvenile attitude of triumph as he strode away as the red card was brandished. But have we not come to expect this from some players obviously bereft of any vestige of what normal human beings would see as sporting behaviour ?.
As for being satisfied with a point, I expect that JC like myself was not happy at losing two !.
But then it was a strange and unusual game.

ps..and it played into the hands of the 'get it up t'field' lads in the Main Stand !..who once again made me think that by their constant criticism of the Reds and their playing style,they have little comprehension of what JC is trying to achieve...but worse that they have little affection for the team they come to support .

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Carlisle fan here.

Can I just say that colemans remarks, as much as is said he meant it differently came at a time when feelings were very raw and his need to mention us in the same context as Accrington having waterlogged pitches, the situations were very very different so rightly so he has been given the reception deserved by us Carlisle fans.
Mr Matthew, with games that are in the north a fair few villages lose their idiots for a fair few hours, and I apologise on behalf of the decent Cufc fans for that.

Outback ozzy, yes rightly so wyke was red carded for simulation, also same as above I apologise for a few villages losing their idiots and I'm glad your car wasn't damaged. Shows the mental aptitude of a vast minority if they can't damage a car whilst trying to.

Choirboy, both yellows to Buxton were deserved, they were both late tackles. If my Mrs was as late with her period as he was with his second tackle then I'd have got her a pregnancy test

Sam F, wyke was floored off the ball by your number 15's elbow, the ref saw wyke on the floor yet didn't even give your defender a talking to, is that really something that happens in such a 1 sided referee?

Monkey hanger, cup final? Nah, it's a game pal, and the red card was an abysmal decision. Ball coming over shoulder, eyes on the ball and going to control it with his foot. Defender ran into his thigh, both looking at the ball. And don't say it was premeditated to crock your most influential player, after all it got a straight red (how it was deemed that I don't know) for our target man, our leading scorer. Premeditated, aye if you think so.

ChrisR, Curle facing up to the manager asking why there was a red card for jabo? Entitled to ask, many managers speak to the referee during half time walking back to the changing rooms. Clapping the away fans, why not? What's wrong with that?

Football19, we took hope off as he was visibly knackered, and wanted asamoahs pace on so was rightly subbed in my eyes

Yonmon, our number 5 being Raynes. Also being captain. Much has been said over the football world about captains only going to the referee rather than the whole team. As captain he's entitled to do that. Funnily enough you seem to have forgotten the 5/6 Accrington players surrounding the referee when ibehre got sent off, how many Accrington players had captain armbands on at that point?

We've had problems with that referee in the past, sending off for ludicrous tackles. Ibehre red card was clearly wrong as he was watching the ball rather than going for the Accrington player. The referee put a benchmark down in the first minute then failed to match that throughout the game. The 2 yellows for Buxton were deserved, along with a couple of fouls he made where he didn't get carded.

2 points lost on our behalf, we should have been 2 up at half time but it wasn't to be. 2 bad lapses at the back for both goals.

And to end, what was with the poor attendance last night? 1100 home fans for a side that is in the playoff positions is pretty poor tbh

Hope we get you in the playoffs, with a full strength side for both we will beat you easy over 2 legs. We are missing 2 of our most influential defenders for both games through injury

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Some fair points Chopper,as I said,I was impressed with your teams pace and work ethic,but believe me you've not seen Accrington put a performance in,and it would be a decent game on a good surface with both teams at full strength.
By the way,i went and watched you at Anfield,in which you put in a disciplined performance.

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We actually had1225 home fans on which for us on a cold Tuesday with Blackburn at home and the European crap on the telly is quite good look at your support with all them Cumbrian villages to empty and what do you get 3500 to 4000 no comparison as for players missing we had 4 so called regulars out it's a squad game OK you beat us easily at yours we did,it turn up but last night 1 disallowed for offside and an excellent save from Billy Kee from your very good keeper Billy really should have scored I think we let you off the hook. As for apologizing for some of your scum sorry mean fans name and shame them no club wants those creeps on board thankfully we don't,t seem to attract that type and long may that continue.

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You make some fair observations Chopper01 but you are clearly as "Blue Eyed" as we are "Red Eyed" and it is great to see that there are supporters 'Further Up North' who are just as passionate about their club as we are 'Slightly Further South' about the Stanley! Being reasonable blokes I am sure that we can agree to disagree about footy outcomes sensibly and respectfully.
Football 19 makes a good point when he states that last nights performance by Stanley was far from one of our best this season. We too were missing some influential players and I reckon that the style of some of earlier performances this season would have blown you away!
Anyway, let's agree on the poor standard of the referee and that a point each was a fair outcome on the night.
I am quite a 'Parochial' sort of football fan, and I think that you might be too, as I always look out for the 'North Western' clubs doing well.......including those local within a few miles radius of Accrington but also the likes of Preston, Bury, Rochdale, Blackpool, Halifax and also Carlisle.
Seeing our Northern clubs moving up the leagues and doing well is always a pleasure for me.

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What I was meaning to the we've got players out injured wasn't meaning that we would beat you with whatever team you have, I know windass is injured but was expecting crooks to play last night. With the way we play, we play through the wings (especially down the left) and we are badly missing our left back and captain in both attacking and defensive traits, not to mention a leader throughout the pitch. We've basically ended up with a centre back playing left back, and a winger playing right back. We are currently in a bit of a slump in form, before Xmas we were right with you pointswise and it's no surprise since we lost our 2 key defenders our form has slumped. I was surprised at just how dire a performance Accrington gave a week back on Saturday, I expected lots more from you but I suppose it was just a bad day in the office that day. The goal that was disallowed for offside I thought was onside, yeah a couple of good saves from Gillespie but I've become accustomed to that kind of performance from him, he is 1 of the best shot stoppers in the league. Trust me mate, if I knew who the fans were that acted like absolute bellends (please excuse my French) then I'd gladly name and shame. The problem with Carlisle attracting them fans is because we don't exactly have any other football teams for them to 'support' in the local area, Cumbria is a hotbed for rugby league and is the most supported sport in the county (apart from sheep herding) and I find it embarrassing to follow the same club as them. Many of them will have made the trip just to heckle Coleman sadly.

Choirboy, I understand I have blue tinted glasses on, and that goes against the consensus of this forum, I've always thought of myself as a Carlisle fan first, football fan second. I'm still surprised at how well 'little old stanley' (as portrayed in media) have done this season, even after speaking to Luke Joyce when I've seen him before and after games is happily shocked at seeing how well accy are doing this season. I got what I expected last night in the context of a hard, physical encounter with not much chance wise at either end. I know what you mean in regards to the northern clubs (even Hartlepool, who Carlisle fans hate) for me may not be as such doing well, but being in the same league as Carlisle in the seasons. Personally I hate this season due to the geography of the league (I mean, who wants to leave your house at 4am on a Saturday for Newport away like we did Saturday gone)

Football19, yes I know what you mean. I couldn't bring myself to watch that Anfield performance week in week out though.

I've read back my above comment, and seen what I said could be misconstrued as some kind of aggression if viewed in a different manner as I was meaning to type, and I apologise for any offence caused to anyone reading it, I came across this thread last night and thought I'd leave it till the cold hard light of day to reply and I understand it may have been taken wrongly with what I said.

I still hope to get Accrington in the playoffs, as I think the top 3 is out of reach of any club out of Pompey, Oxford and Northampton. The reason I want Accrington is because of the geographical nature, and it'll be a hell of a game while we are both at 'full strength'
Not only that, but with crooks and windass going to rangers after the season, it'd be interesting to see how they'd perform

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Chopper, it would be great if both Stanley and Carlisle can win promotion. Next season in Division One we could have lots of Northern Derbies which would reduce your travel costs.......We could possibly have in the same division a list of clubs that could include;
Carlisle and Stanley, but also Blackpool, Fleetwood, Rochdale, Bury, Wigan, Oldham, Bradford, Bolton and even dare I say it Blackburn Rovers if they have a bad run in to the end of the season!:p

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I agree, it would be nice to have both promoted, however I really can't see any of the top 3 falling away. Possibly Oxford, depending how they react to whatever the result in the jpt final, but that leaves 1 place left with 8/9 teams currently with a realistic chance of playoff success

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Chopper, it's a big ask, but if we can win away at Oxford next saturday we would have a great chance of getting into the top three......and it would help keep them within the possiblity of Carlisle catching them too.:jimbo:

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3 points behind them with a game in hand that'll be. Who is that game in hand against?

We need to get our act together sharpish, we've got Stevenage at home Saturday so that should be a win with games in hand over everyone bar Pompey and yourselves, they're next Tuesday at Wimbledon and Dagenham away the following Tuesday. We will both finish in top 7 at least

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Actually it would be 3 points behind still with 2 games in hand - Notts County (23 Feb) and Pompey (8 Mar), both at home. On the other hand, if we lose we are quite likely to be back to 8th as the table says 5th 6th 7th and 8th should all win on Saturday - but then it said we should have won last night ..... :rolleyes:

Thank you for coming on here with a reasonably balanced, if slightly blue-tinted, view and taking part in a sensible discussion! :)

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That would have been a straight red though.

I actually thought it was a cynical block, although if we are a defending him a clumsy challenge ;)

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Notts county you should win, Pompey id be surprised if you get anything. Pompey are by far the best side I've seen. We aren't all bad haha, I'll always have blue tinted glasses on mind

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I didn't see the game last night but, from the video, I tend to agree with those who suggested that the first red card was a poor decision. The lad was looking over his shoulder, watching the ball coming down, and it looked to me like an unintentional foul. Painful, but not malicious. Matty Pearson, being the kind of guy who wouldn't pull out of tackle at any height, came off badly; just hope he recovers quickly.
But then, being born in Brampton then raised in Accie, my spectacles are a natty shade of purple.:cool:
As for prospects for promotion and play offs, this is a really competitive league and the top half are still in with a shout. The Cobblers have just had a purple patch, but things could change dramatically if one or two other teams find their form for half a dozen games. Easter is usually a decisive period.

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The red card for jabo ibehre has been rescinded this afternoon on appeal

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Good it did seem very harsh. dunno if we appealed against adams cos that did also.

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cashy cant appeal 2 yellow cards

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When? It certainly wasn't in this game, unless well is another way to say charged about like a headless chicken. What's up with this lad? He certainly can't be any less match fit than Proccy.
Brown becomes Red ? Accrington Stanley FC

Apologies to any club staff who are better qualified than me.

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Was injured on Tuesday

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Not sure if you can appeal 2 yellows. Might have seemed harsh, but there was a few fouls of his that went unpunished that would have been yellows on another day, maybe accumulation of fouls had an influence. Or is that just too blue tinted glasses?

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Good, because it was a 'Rash' decision by yet another poor referee!
Just another illustration of how poor the refereeing is in division 2.:dummy2:
That's TWO NUMPTIES in TWO successive HOME MATCHES for us.[/B]:end:

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they are not all bad but the decent ones like wright, boyeson and madley never seem to do Stanley games. don,t worry though they wont get 3 match bans and we,ll see them all again next season doing even different cock ups.

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We need to get our act together sharpish, we've got Stevenage at home Saturday so that should be a win with games in hand over everyone bar Pompey and yourselves, they're next Tuesday at Wimbledon and Dagenham away the following Tuesday. We will both finish in top 7 at least[/QUOTE]

if you play like you did against us on Tuesday night I can,t see anyone stopping you. is that you,re average performance or just up for that game.

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if you play like you did against us on Tuesday night I can,t see anyone stopping you. is that you,re average performance or just up for that game.[/QUOTE]


Lately, we've not performed to that level but when we were in the playoffs going toe to toe on points with Stanley we below the level we played on Tuesday. The cup runs we went on affected us, and the postponements and playing away 'home' games affected us over Xmas.

Joyce was up for the game on Tuesday for obvious reasons, and I think the red card helped us with performance, can't say that it changed the game as we never had 11 men on the pitch. And we needed a reaction to a dire performance at Newport last Saturday and we seem to have got that.

Also, I imagine for both games against stanley that Curle pinned up in dressing room what Coleman said in December, and used that as motivation, that's just the way KC is as a manager

Happy with the 4 points we've taken off a promotion rival, it's always good to draw away at least. Good luck tomorrow at Oxford, it'll be hard going for Stanley

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I have to say the last two home games have been badly officiated although when both teams went down to 10 men it opened the games up. I think the red cards were harsh all round. It is a little too soon for us to get too excited but the Oxford would have been a great measure of where we are, unfortunately with the loss of a couple of key players we could well struggle and suffer the consequences. But we still have enough to be there in the play off's at least,

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Anyone can (and does) beat anyone though. Safe trip to you lot travelling tomorrow. I'm hoping both my clubs get a win (Sydney FC in the Sydney Derby)

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Bloody thugs those WSW supporters.Go the 'Nix.

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Some are alright. Kind of. How's the nix doing anyway? Had a few problems not long ago I read