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Another long trip today for the lads. Will we be nervously hanging onto our media devices yet again with 10 minutes to go, hoping for a late score or sweating it out on whether we can hang on to what we have?
Will Coley act on his often repeated "we have a strong squad" and ring the changes if things don't go as planned? Or will he again be the only one out of 92 Prem/Championship/L1 and L2 managers who thought his starting 11 was so perfect it didn't need changing with any subs, even though we were being out thought and out fought by Martin Allen's 5(?) subs? Will Shay (3 goals in 2 recent games) or Scott (1 appearance, 1 goal) get a look in, or will the bullet proof one (5 goals in 31) avoid being subbed? Can't wait to find out.:D

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This will be a real tough un tonight,am hoping we can get a result but aint over confident.:eek:

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Hi Redraine, I know where you are coming from here....BUT...as to being on his own....there is one Shaun Dyche at Burnley who is often criticised by supporters for not using his subs, making substitutions too late, and using the same set of players game in, game out ..... so Coley is not on his own in this respect....

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Aye, but see what Dyche did on Saturday after Bolton went 1 up after 69 minutes. One sub at 72 minutes - goal at 74 minutes. Another sub at 84 minutes - winning goal at 85 minutes. Q.E.D. Proper football genius?:eek:

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Bristol Rovers & Oxford already winning. This is becoming a must not lose and really need to win game

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Means sod all yet nor does Orient losing.and wycombe aswell

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Substitution, Accrington Stanley. Shay McCartan replaces Romuald Boco. :D

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1-0 Yokels:eek:

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Subs introduced in good time, MOM was Yeovils keeper, life can a bitch.

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3 points we should never have lost, we can't afford any more slip ups or it will be the play off's at best.

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Top 3 still in our own hands Plymouth beat tonight still 2 games in hand on them and play them at home a week Saturday.

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Was always gonna be a tough game, can't help thinking that maybe travelling all that way on the day of the game wouldn't have helped? Apparently the lads are staying over tonight - wouldn't it have made more sense to do that last night & travel back after the game - just a thought.
Having said that, other results around us mean the table's still not looking too bad - Saturday's game at Wimbledon will be massive now

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It seems to me that the string of postponements is catching up with us. We've been playing twice a week for four weeks now and it stays that way through to Easter. From the live text it looked as though we started well again and bossed the first half, then stopped threatening although we still had a fair share of possession. Waiting to see if it looked that way from the stands .....

The next 4 games will define the season, I suspect.

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Plymouth play Oxford on Saturday as well, they can't both win :)

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Agree Cashy, & Redraine even got his wish when Sean was subbed :rolleyes: - guess it just wasn't our night. Feel sorry for the travellers, flaming long way home with nowt to show for it

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After Oxford, one of the best, this must rank amongst the most frustrating performances this season for me. If only, like Olympic hanky-waving, points were awarded for artistic impression. But little or no point totally dominating possession, making them look a very poor team in the first half, running rings around them with myriad inter-passing, if it remains nil-nil.
At half time, we three wise monkeys, plus Mrs.Exile, all looked at one another and prophesied we'd rue not killing them off.
And, lo, it came to pass.
Gave them a goal, albeit they deserved something for not being quite so appalling in the second half, and it re-energised Yeovil. Stanley huffed and puffed but never really threatened their goal. The first half header (was it Billy Whizz?) was the best effort, and save, but all the other shots were straight at their keeper's stomach. They could be still playing now and I suspect they probably still wouldn't have scored.
Thought Stanley over elaborated the one touch passing game at times, rarely was a simple ball put into space behind their defence for someone to run on to. Are our wingers told to stay so deep when an attack builds? Every time Pierro got the ball he had three defenders between him and the goal, yet there was space behind their full back. Was it significant that Captain Conneely had the odd rare off moment; his misplaced pass, I think, led to their goal. Whilst no-one had a bad game, it just didn't gell tonight.
But at least it should silence, for a few games at least, those who seem to think it's managers who win or lose games by their tactical substitutions, or lack thereof.
I think the one lesson from tonight is that winning or losing is down to the players. Will be interested to see what they've learned at Wimbledon on Saturday.

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Very disappointing result...Given that Oxford hammered York and that gap is now at eight points....albeit with the two games in hand.....which of course we simply must win !!!:(

The next six games will make or break our drive for the Autos....including four massive home games against rivals....and one massive away game this Saturday at Wimbledon.

For Automatic promotion....I'd suggest we need 13-14 points from these six games....minimum.:o

I think it would be a positive move on the club's part to lower the admission fee for these four home games....Four home games within just over a fortnight is a big expense at £15 walk ons......given the extra hassle.....What about some sort of hastily arranged package deal ???? Get folk to commit to coming to all four by offering one as a freebie....a.l.a. £45 for all four ??? Give it a snazzy name such as "Drive for 85 (points)" which I think we'll need for the Automatic place ???:confused:

Do I think we're good enough for the Automatic spot......YES.....on our day ( with a fully fit squad ) we could give ANY side in this league a beating....:).

Do I think we're good enough to stay in League One should we get there.....

debatable....:confused:.

I've been to watch Bury a couple of times recently in L1.....Bury have some top notch players ( at least at L1 level ) on their books who they are paying good wages.....also the standard in L1 is a little better.

I'd consider the Shakers as a Yardstick we need to measure ourselves against....

They went up in third place with 85 points last year ( hence the earlier mentioned slogan !! ).....Whatever they finish up with this season would be an immediate achievement goal for survival if we got into League one for next season....

We're gonna lose two key players for peanuts in the summer. They would need replacing along with a couple of additions.....:(

I hate to say it...but we've dropped some silly points recently (i.e in the last month ) that may cost us that Auto spot...hope I'm wrong.....but I think the nerve shredding play-offs will be our "reward" for an outstanding season.:o

Last August any ardent Stanley fan would have given their right arm for that "reward"...:o:rolleyes:

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Thats nonsense, while no sure thing, good substitutions can improve chances of a result. if things aint working or players are tiring,yeh got the choice do nowt or change things and hope.

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one of the few who didn,t expect us to win last night, thought we,d scrape a draw though. probably played them at the wrong time as their form seems to have improved over the last few weeks. seem unlucky as every time we make a mistake it leads to a goal and their keeper being man of the match again. we,ll loose again before the season is finished so don,t panic. need something at Wimbledon on Saturday but it wont be easy.

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I think it would be a positive move on the club's part to lower the admission fee for these four home games....Four home games within just over a fortnight is a big expense at £15 walk ons......given the extra hassle.....What about some sort of hastily arranged package deal ???? Get folk to commit to coming to all four by offering one as a freebie....a.l.a. £45 for all four ??? Give it a snazzy name such as "Drive for 85 (points)" which I think we'll need for the Automatic place ???:confused:

can,t see that happening with the present regime. sounds too much like common sense.

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[QUOTE=cashman;1162776]Thats nonsense, while no sure thing, good substitutions can improve chances of a result. if things aint working or players are tiring,yeh got the choice do nowt or change things and hope.[/QUOTE]

It's no more nonsense than suggesting Stanley lose because no substitutions were made (by implication the manager's fault) only for them to lose next time when substitutions are made (presumably also the manager's fault).
When a manager changes things, he's also just hoping, otherwise why didn't he play his 'better' option from the start?
Sometimes substitutions work, sometimes they don't. But it's down to the players to perform.

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[QUOTE=Exile on Spencer St;1162785]No implication about it, its rank poor management that dont try subs when sod all else is working. not to try is the nonsense.

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Maybe the frustrations of last night haven't yet been purged from my system, but why am I not surprised that the response to a defeat is to demand a further reduction in admission prices?
How many reductions have to be made before it's accepted that most people in Accrington wouldn't get off their a...s to watch the team if you paid them.

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I agree with you here Exile. The prices have just been reduced during a time we've got a lot of hype about us and that in itself should be a help to drive people on to the ground. I can't see any regime old or new further reducing them for these matches.

I think regardless of price, the numbers will increase (albeit temporarily) if we're still in this sort of position in a month or so as the excitement will drum up as we hit the final stage of the season - as they did with the last playoff season.

Also - a lot of people outside the regular fan-base potentially won't know how important these next few fixtures are as they won't be studying the table in the same way we are.

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Thats probably bang on the mark.;)

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Yeovil and Barnet have been throwing spanners in the dockyards' works recently too - Barnet having beaten both Portsmouth and Plymouth, and Yeovil drawing with both of them. So all three of us "contenders" have only got one point from those 2 games. If we get 4 points from our 2 home games against those 2, things won't look too bad at all - as long as we don't then slip up against the Daggers :eek:

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I agree with you Exile. A price reduction or even free has not worked in the past, There is an image problem for the club, There are enough people in the area that lend their support occasionaly. However we have to ask why they don't come on a more regular basis, I have asked and have never been able to get a clear answer that would give the club something to work on. The team winning is the best we can offer at the moment, I don't know what else the club can do to attract and keep fans at the moment. If the worst happened and we didn't make it to league one then I would reluctantly suggest the club needs a complete honest view of what it's capabilities are and how realistic we can be with an average crowd of 14/1500. But that is for the future, The next 4/5 games will decide if we are good enough to go up. I will be there to the end.

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40 odd years without a football league club. fans brought up to go elsewhere.

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Quite true, which is a shame as there was plenty of good non-league football going on during that time - but for some that level of footy wasn't attractive enough

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Was none going on in 62, so young uns like me went to see football elsewhere, simple fact once yeh get into a footy team, for a few years its unlikely yeh will switch allegiance.;)

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Depends on who is in charge and how much they P you off.

And I don't mean at accy this time.

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Yeah, I understand that - was just speaking from my own perspective, as being even younger than yourself :rolleyes: - Stanley's years in non league was the time I got hooked :D

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most people are younger than this owd fart.:D

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Listening to the Arsenal v Swansea game tonight has cured my frustration from last night.
One stat from the first half, when they went in at 1-1, was that Arsenal made 31 passes in their opponents penalty area and Swansea made one. As Professor Coleman said, it's about goals not possession.

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???????? !!

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[QUOTE=cashman;1162786]Sean Dyche gave an interview recently in which he stated one of the hardest parts of management is to know when to leave things alone. I think subs are more effective when they're brought on as part of a formation change, rather than gambling on like for like.

As RR states....the starting XI tends to contain the players who the manager deems the best.

Its a mercurial art. The lazy midfielder who hasn't won a ball all game can smash in a last minute screamer and win you the game. Who'd be a manager?

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As per gates...unfortunately Accrington just isn't a football town. In the same way that despite winning the FA Cup and being in the Premier League for years didn't attract the gates Wigan hoped for as they were and are a rugby town.

For all their faults, I admire the town of Burnleys siege mentality. Us against the world and the football club as a symbol of that. The club is the one thing around which everything revolves. Accrington just doesn't have that. There's no pride in the town...never mind the football team.

Point in case being the Calder pub in Accy centre erupting when Stevenage bagged against us in the play offs.

I don't know what the answer is. All we can do is keep winning and make match day a better experience facilty wise, to take away the excuses the Accy public frequently cite for not coming.

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problem is is that there is a level in which people are prepared to watch football. if it falls below that level people will not attend. I for one hate non league football nearly as much as the greedy league for different reasons.

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Not sure accy aint a football town Alvin? with reasonably bigger clubs 5 miles either side is what makes a big difference to me. we were averaging 3000 in 62, that as we all know caused lost generations.;)

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another factor for smaller clubs was we were 3rd Div North, which meant better gates for the small clubs.

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Agree with a lot of what you say, Alvin, although I would say that Accy is a football town - it's just that most locals support football clubs outside the town.

Sadly, this weekend most football-minded Accringtonians will be more concerned with what happens at Turf Moor rather than what happens at Wimbledon.

Even local councillors who keep banging on about supporting town centre businesses go and support football clubs elsewhere.

The incident in the Calder with Accringtonians cheering the misfortune of Stanley sums up this town to a T. If a similar match occurred involving any other small town, even those locals who supported bigger clubs elsewhere, would want their home town club to do well. Not Accrington; go into any pub in town wearing Stanley gear and watch the reactions ranging from sullen indifference to derision and hostility. Go to most other places in the country (apart from Satanage and a few other places!) and your Stanley shirt will elicit interest and affection.

Anyone who takes over this club has to face the fact that gates are never going to improve to any significant extent...because hardly anybody in Accy really cares. :(

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8 home games left 5 of which should bring good following,s if we stay in and around our current league position we could end up averaging about 1800 which in a Southern based division and only 200 ish short of the so called break even figure would in this day and age not be bad and maybe something to build on.

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Having watched and worked at the JJB (sorry DW now) on both Rugby and Football matches, I cannot say you are entirely correct on this assumption.
WAFC got gates of up to 25,000 when Premier league (although they probably averaged approximately 19,000) and the rugby club only fills the ground for internationals and usually averages 15,000, maybe a few more (PS the ground only holds 25,000). Obviously the crowds for the football have dwindled due to the consecutive relegations, but, and I am not certain, the crowds will surely be on the up, given the success of where they are in League One. As for Accrington Stanley, it has been said before, when they succumbed in 1962 we lost a lot of support to other teams, not just 5 or 6 miles away, but those in Manchester and further afield. Fathers then persuaded sons and daughters to follow these teams and not the hometown team. I have family experience of this because my stepdaughter supports Arsenal all because Thierry Henry used to play for them. What chance have Stanley got? Unless Stevie Gerrard comes to play for us for a season at the end of his US contract.

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I have family experience of this because my stepdaughter supports Arsenal all because Thierry Henry used to play for them. What chance have Stanley got? Unless Stevie Gerrard comes to play for us for a season at the end of his US contract.[/QUOTE]

does she go to matches to watch arsenal. you see loads of people and not all kids walking around with their new top premier league shirt on and only see them on sky or match of the day. when I ran the amusement arcade in Norfolk they are all their and no nowt about the clubs they profess to support. the few non prem shirt wearers are true supporters who will talk all day about their side. Stanley are passion not fashion.

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does she go to matches to watch arsenal. you see loads of people and not all kids walking around with their new top premier league shirt on and only see them on sky or match of the day. when I ran the amusement arcade in Norfolk they are all their and no nowt about the clubs they profess to support. the few non prem shirt wearers are true supporters who will talk all day about their side. Stanley are passion not fashion.[/QUOTE]

Probably doesn't care about football in the slightest. That is by far the majority these days and the only group whose numbers are growing alas.

More people profess to following teams by TV these days as you get to see them from all over and Football shirts are more a fashion item than for match days now. You just need to look at the size of fan clubs for the big name clubs to see that those who believe being a football fan involves actually going to a game are stuck in the past. Fans going to games these days are treated as less important than those watching on TV and have been for a long time. Why do you think big clubs rarely pay at times that suit the fans. The same with european tournaments where TV even plays a part in the seeding for the Champions League.

Times have changed but is it for the better? I doubt it

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does she go to matches to watch arsenal. you see loads of people and not all kids walking around with their new top premier league shirt on and only see them on sky or match of the day. when I ran the amusement arcade in Norfolk they are all their and no nowt about the clubs they profess to support. the few non prem shirt wearers are true supporters who will talk all day about their side. Stanley are passion not fashion.[/QUOTE]

She has been to Both Highbury and the Emirates and also watched them when they came up north to Play Man Utd etc. No she doesn't go to every match as she and her partner live in Wigan. Her mother and 1 sister are Latics fans and the other sister is a Warriors fan (she goes to every home match). I used to wear Man Utd shirts and have seen them at OT, but at the end of the day, I support and pay my money to Stanley. Like some of the oldies on here, I got lost in the resignation of '62, but when I finished in the Army in '86 I came back to Stanley.