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Liverpool would be nice, guaranteed to be a home tie and they have to pay compensation if to the opposition if drawn at home ...

'Ave it

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Just wish they'd hurry up with the draw - struggling to stay awake, one late night a week's more than enough for me these days :rolleyes:

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Aye, yer of an age where bed's at 9 and up at 5 for no reason ...

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Gerrrinnnnnnnn

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Les Dingle danglers!

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Wow!!! Bring on the Dingles

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Book me on Ash

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Thats about as good a draw as it gets in my book.:)

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Cheeky beggar, it comes to us all & it'll creep up on you before you know it ;)

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That draw'll do for me :)

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This game has sell out all over it

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Hope they do some kind of ticket incentive for the Exeter match, would vastly improve that gate

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I hope they don't try and profiteer and blame the other club for agreeing.

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Can't ask for better than that. Lets hope we can do as we did pre-season 15/16 and beat them again.

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A great draw indeed! :D Imagine if Bradford had won and they were playing the Dingles instead of us.:eek:

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With the game sandwiched in-between the Exeter & Morecambe games would hope, as Macca says that there'll be some sort of deal on the tickets?

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Best possible draw imo.

Sell out and Sky game written all over it.

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if this game doesn,t create interest in stanley throught the area then nothing will. can,t see us on tele though burton v liverpool looks odds on.

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Ticket incentive

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Sky show 2 live games I think in this round so maybe we have a good chance of being on TV. Brilliant game for all concerned. Can't wait already

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Wonder if AccyClarets are putting buses on?? Police escorts to the ground & all that - I personally think any local Burnley fans should have to travel to Burnley & come in by coach from there & they'll need to get into our stadium at least 2 hours before kick off - yeah, that should work ok :D:rolleyes:

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Whats the betting either this match or the Blackburn at home match gets moved to the following night. Potential nightmare for Police if both matches are on the same evening.

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The police would have a nightmare if their pies dont come.:rolleyes:

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Depends what night Sky choose :)

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Our tie is likely to be Wednesday as Bournemouth are playing on the Sunday afternoon.

It would make sense to put it on TV , North v South is maybe more appealing to Sky.

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Yeah, but they've already done that when we beat Bournemouth in the FA Cup a few years ago - no, I think the Lancashire derby game's the favourite to be broadcast ;)

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Dunno they may choose Morecambe, cos their aint much comedy on tv at the moment,:D

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season ticket holders get theirs first i hope

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We did for the Bradford game so would imagine it'll be similar for this one

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This draw means the world to be, it really does. When I was at school I used to get the mickey ripped out of me by Burnley and Rovers fans. Both Premiership and Football League respectively, whilst we would duly get spanked by the likes of Bamber Bridge. John Coleman has delivered more than I ever dreamed possible.

Conference?? A pipe dream. Football League?? They'd have dragged you away for the mere suggestion. I always said the only thing we had t achieved was to beat one of our two neighbours in a competitive game.

Now we meet competitively and are equals for just ninety minutes. Never thought I'd see the day. Come on Coley.....give us one more miracle.


It's time to summon the spirit of '68 and avenge what Bob the Butcher did. Our Town. Our Time.

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:) incentive how much more incentive do you need than to watch stanley play one of our local rivals in a proper cup game in stead of a friendly with a full house :)

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Morecambe on telly. That wouldn't be Wise. :)

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Sky Fixture Predictions

23rd Stanley v Burnley
24th Burton v Liverpool
25th Morecambe v Bournemouth

No other Sky Football on these days, and a Thurs game is certain, the Liverpool game with be up against Manchester City on BT.

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I can't see Bournemouth playing Thursday with a Premier League game the following Saturday

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I think the idea is to make them buy tickets for other games to get 1 for Burnley.

There'll be 4200 on for this game so we need to get another 2 or 3 for another game as well :-)

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I'm not too sure as some one will have to do it and the prem teams will put out second string teams no doubt.

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I can't see Morecambe Bournemouth being on TV, my prediction is Tuesday Accy Burnley, Wednesday Burton Liverpool.
Hopefully this is the case but either way it'll be a great night and hopefully a good result for our boys

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There will be one game on Thursday as well guaranteed according to the football league.

The Chelsea and Everton games have a possibility as well as the Shrimps and Stanley, however Burton is 200% nailed on. 1 + (2 from 4).

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Surely Burton a pretty poor Championship team against the Liverpool Academy isn't going to be a great spectacle.

Although it is once again "Nigel Clough's Burton Albion" and Sky love "name" managers.

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Although it is once again "Nigel Clough's Burton Albion" and Sky love "name" managers.[/QUOTE]

bit of sense from north west lancashire. the problem is we,re all excited about the game but if you live darn sarf a local lancashire derby is not of much interest as would say hartlepools v sunderland. north v south games with teams who were famous in the 1950,s seem to be more popular with the tv chiefs.

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On the other hand, if they are on the same night there's less chance of Rovers' nutters putting on red shirts and coming over to Accy looking for Burnley's nutters :rolleyes:

The police might prefer it that way .....

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ABSOLUTELY......
...SICK AS A PARROT...:enough::dflam::knife::behead::end::bye2: :signthis:...!!!!!!!!!!
I am away all that week and I was already annoyed at having to miss the Morecambe match!

GUTTED:thumbsdow:bangh8::bangh8::bangh8::hitting8:

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If they are doing a ticket incentive I'd much prefer it to be involving the Morecambe game instead of the Exeter...Another local derby and better atmosphere to enjoy with a bit of luck to encourage floating fans/Burnley fans to come again!

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Police don't seem to bothered, Tuesday for Rovers and Wednesday for Stanley

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Confirmed Wednesday evening 24th Aug, Live on Sky, 7:45 K.O

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Good stanley will scoop then wont they?

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Ticket details on fishy sit, season ticket holders only allowed one ticket usually 2per season ticket holder :eek::confused: and loyaltycard holders can get a ticket at the same time as season ticket holders whats that all about :(

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what about people who dont live in the area, who have season tickets

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Give em a bell in morning mate, summat will no doubt be sorted i reckon.

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At 1 each there will be enough to cover season ticket holders and loyalty card holders. If they didn't they would have to have a few days for season ticket holders, then another few for loyalty card holders, leaving little time for the riff raff :)

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If the 'riff raff' don't take up the surplus, will they be offered to ST holders to bring a friend.... ideal opportunity.... or will they go to BFC, as they are sure to take them up, given their fan base is a little more than the 2000 or so??

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I'd hope that Burnley won't be given any more than the 2000 away team's allowance or it could feel more like their home game rather than ours, fine when it's a pre season friendly but not for a competitive one.

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There are probably very few long-distance season ticket holders, but it would be appreciated if the club could clarify plans for us when it makes its announcements.[/SIZE][/FONT][/QUOTE]

people like you who must spend a fortune watching stanley deserve a freebee for a game like this or at least some special treatment.

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people like you who must spend a fortune watching stanley deserve a freebee for a game like this or at least some special treatment.[/QUOTE] Instead they get treated very poorly imho, I am pretty certain Mr Holt has no idea how poorly, the notice was posted with NO Opening Times, No Info for Long Distance season ticket holders, its simply NOT good enough.

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Then to find my regular 'RESERVED' seat has been taken over by 'hospitality', not a happy bunny.
Does whoever makes these decisions at the club not realise that fans can be a superstitious lot, wanting to keep the same routine on match days, IE, same seat/standing position,
Lucky underpants etc. Apart from the fact that we sit with our regular crowd, which has now been denied us, contributing to a potential lack of atmosphere, which can be lacking in some areas of the main stand anyway.
How to alienate your loyal fans without really trying!!

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Whilst I appreciate you predicament, Season Ticket holders seats do not apply for cup games as you have to pay £20 like everyone else, the only thing is that you can purchase yours before all the 'riff raff' as someone politely called the main body of Stanley supporters. The one thing I am worried about is now that Sky are showing the game live, how many walk-ons will say sod it, why pay £20 when I could watch it for free in the pub or with a few tinnies at home.

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Instead they get treated very poorly imho, I am pretty certain Mr Holt has no idea how poorly, the notice was posted with NO Opening Times, No Info for Long Distance season ticket holders, its simply NOT good enough.[/QUOTE]

Suggest you read the post about Burnley EFL tickets again, because I saw the opening times, ie 9-12 Saturday, 12-6.30 Monday afternoon and 10-4 Tuesday
:rolleyes:

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Suggest you read the post about Burnley EFL tickets again, because I saw the opening times, ie 9-12 Saturday, 12-6.30 Monday afternoon and 10-4 Tuesday
:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]Those times have been added since defo, once ive looked i dont look again.:rolleyes: also weres the info for long distance holders.?

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Bit touchy there, it was meant as humour not literally :)

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Well outback i know for fact the times have been added since, cos last night i phoned a friend to let him know they were onsale this morning and read it out to him, suggest you stop ass kissing and quote fact.:rolleyes:

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this is an utter disgrace. i always thought if you had a season ticket you could keep your regular seat if you purchased them at the times stated and after that they go on open sale. apart from the savings its another reason to buy a season ticket to get first dibs on cup tickets etc. no news on any vouchers to be given out either for cash sales for the exeter game either. another lost opportunity to get more bums on seats for a game thats not usually well patronised. come on stanley don,t alianate what you,ve got.

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Andy holt announced on twitter that anyone buying a ticket for Exeter can buy one for burnley - says details to be announced soon

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I too was blazing this morning when my mum had been for her Burnley ticket & been told that the entire F block where we usually sit has been given over to the press & hospitality - this didn't even happen for the Wimbledon play off game for goodness sake! Once before, think it was Stevenage play off game we were asked to move because of the no. of press but we were rung beforehand & asked not told when we turned up to buy tickets & we were still allocated seats not far away from our usual ones.
I know we need the money that hospitality brings in but selling out the people who plough money into the club regularly by buying season tickets & have done for years really goes against the grain for me, not a happy bunny at the moment

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Its typical, they keep bleating they need more people to come on, and take the pish outa those that do.:(

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Well, if they're gonna move me I'm gonna make a proper move & come on Clayton End with you lot Cashy - & if there's no room I'll be watching from the pub :)

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I nearly didn't renew my season ticket, I felt the club was getting to money orientated at the cost of the fans loyalty which is proving to be worth nothing. I think some of the greed will backfire. season tickets entitled the holder to first reserve of their seat at cup matches. but they can use my seat I will watch for free in a pub. So the message needs to get to Andy Holt he is turning the club into anything bar a community club.

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[QUOTE=Revived Red;1174540][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="3"]I said a few weeks ago that we now have a very different Accrington Stanley - and I was generally criticised for saying so. We shall see.

the club needed to change but some things like this cup ticket fiasco needs to change back. i was also going to sponson a player this season but saw the price jumped from i think 125 last season to 200 pounds this. sorry no thanks as i feel this is a move that will keep the average fan out of this. i know we need more businesses involved with the club but whats gone on so far this season after the clayton end development can be lost quickly.

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Thought about this long and hard
Went to the club yesterday morning to enquire about getting 3 tickets for family for the Burnley game
Being a season ticket holder and a shareholder I was told in no uncertain terms that the board had decided one ticket per season ticket holder.
Virginia Hargreaves was confronted by myself on such a matter, while Virginia may have a very good business background its quite obvious that her understanding of a loyal football supporter was sadly
missing and whats more she didnt seem to care, well done Virginia you haven't got a clue.
I came away made to feel like a customer but in reality I am a loyal supporter.
Oh and by the way the two other tickets i wanted was to try and entice those two people to come more frequently, they have both told me now to forget it.

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we are supporters and not customers. its like people who travel on buses stopped becoming passengers and became customers. every industry has its own special needs and not all lumped together under one umbrella. non football people coming into football as non transport people coming into transport just don,t get it.

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Wanna bet old chum ?.

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Having to move seats is no big deal. It is better to make money out of 'corporate' entertaining than charge everyone more.

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The guy who runs the club is from the Lancashire FA.

There were some shockers before he came in, like moving the Stanley v Newport game from a weekend where Blackburn/Burnley would not play to a Friday when both England and Wales were.

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It would seem RR, that again this is ,where a non- acceptability of the concepts relating to integrity and fairness needed to be applied by the Club when the vision of extra lucre is before their eyes, denying some fans of what they rightly or wrongly see as their rights as a Season Ticket holder.
I feel somewhat miffed to think that the posterior of some invited hanger-on will probably be warming Seat D51...appreciating the fact that as this seat is adjacent to those allocated to Visiting Directors it will surely be one of the first to be sacrificed for the greater needs of Club finances !.
I am grieved to hear that as a long standing supporter, who travels such long distances on a regular basis to follow our Team, you should have e-mails ignored, and find it impossible to communicate with it's administrative staff.
As usual, I wish you luck in your efforts to find a resolution to this problem...but for some strange, unaccountable feeling, I am not holding my breath !.

Perhaps the Forum's Fan's Representative might be able to shed some words of wisdom on the situation ..who knows ?.

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It's as much the way we were informed about it as it is about the issue of moving tbh, & I'm sorry but I don't agree that riding roughshod over the people who are the week-in, week-out bread & butter of the club to cater for the prawn sandwich brigade who probably only come now & again is the way to go about things.

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What did the new bread of fan do before we had seats?

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New breed??!! I've been coming to Stanley since 1975 & think I've stood or sat in every area of the ground over the years, for the last 10 or so it's been my choice to sit in the main stand with the rest of my family - not that I have to prove my 'pedigree' as a Stanley fan, that wasn't the point!

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So you are okay with moving around? A lot of people look at progress as a way to bash the club, but if it wasn't for progress there would not be seats at all. No one is guaranteed a seat for cup games are they?

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I think that there has to be an acceptance, from the fan, that certain seats adjacent to key areas may be at risk in certain scenarios - but this should be made absolutely clear at the point of sale.

I've got no issue with any of the 'professionalising' of the club as it was way overdue, but somebody somewhere needs to educate the present management of the fundamental expectations of the average fan.

We have many 2, 3 and even 4 generation fan families and if you kick one they all limp. There are many examples of Andy Holt trying to bend over backwards to alleviate problems, I think that we should back off and give them room to learn

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The problem as i see it is yeh cant learn the lifelong stupids.

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[QUOTE=Chewbacca;1174574]So you are okay with moving around? A lot of people look at progress as a way to bash the club, but if it wasn't for progress there would not be seats at all. No one is guaranteed a seat for cup games are they?[/QUOTE
Now you're twisting my words, I've sat or stood in different places over time & each one was my choice, I'm not 'bashing the club' as you put it just am not happy with some decisions which have been made in regard to the Burnley game - I've made my feelings known & that's an end to it as far as i'm concerned, I'll now get on with supporting the team from wherever I end up watching it

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Moving seats is no big deal, people need to look at the bigger picture.

We have nearly gone out of existence, the new owner want to maximise the financial potential from a rare chance to play a premier league team in a meaningful match, they have my full support.

Look at the bigger picture, this game may very well set us up financially for the rest of the season, we can't expect Andy Holt to act as a charity.

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It's hardly asking for charity when you've paid your hard earned money up front year after year :rolleyes: - Just a little thought would've been appreciated

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Wonder if Burnley wil get 10%of the allocation as required or closer to 50%?

Is it possible to just give 10% the way the ground is set up? Circa 400 I assume.

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1800 Which means the whole of the Whinney Hill Stand(300 seats ) and the away end Terracing(1500)Sanding but may change because of the TV camrea's
and the fact its a night match.

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I am scratching my head here,surely the club should give a window of opportunity to season ticket holders to purchase "their"seat.
I can't see the problem.
On a separate note I went to purchase our tickets on Tuesday,was sent to another booth after lining up,eventually spent a few minutes (with a queue behind me),getting two seats together.
I thought it must be nearly a sell out,only to find I could sit practically anywhere !!
So I went in my normal seat and bent Yonmons ear all game !!!

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That's what has usually happened F19, but not for this game - at least not if your usual seat is in Block F as the whole section has been given over to the press & hospitality, apparently over 300 had been sold before Saturday morning which was the first day season ticket holders could go for their Burnley tickets - don't want to keep going on about it, I've calmed down a bit now but it has still left a bit of a sour taste tbh

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As your new fan liaison rep, going forward I will make that taste is no longer bitter but oh so sweet.


any issues, drop me a PM

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Must agree, but any other option should have been explained to people when buying their season ticket surely? not difficult. unless yer braindead.

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That was totally my error; never ever gave it a thought it was the international break that weekend. Lesson learned; when we get the fixtures in June the International breaks are cleared marked. I thought of asking Cheltenham to swop to the Friday, but saw it was on the International weekend.

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Sir; all clubs have to submit to the EFL what allocation they will give clubs at all games in pre-season. We've made a commitment which will have to honour. It's is a minimum of 10% of capacity, but as we all know the Wham isn't currently geared up to work within that constrant.

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I think all fans appreciate that special changes are made for one-off fixtures such as this. Certain sections of the ground are expanded for press, hospitality and fans of clubs with larger fan bases. It's inconvenient but a part of the success which gets us these games.

The previous precedent of speaking to season ticket holders to advise them ahead of the changes was the right thing to do; it was an example of the club's personal touch and, incidentally, cost nothing. It's completely understandable why people are miffed that the precedent hasn't been followed this time. It's equally disappointing that there are supporters on here who are either wildly missing the point or showing an active dearth of compassion towards fellow Reds!

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Andy holt with some very straight to the point tweets tonight, agree 100% with him

I don't think anyone would disagree. Missed the point a bit though. The issue isn't the changes themselves it's the communication.

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Its communication thats very important if yeh want growth in my view. and it costs sod all.

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Aye but to explain to andy, whilst the fact is yeh cant cos the twitter location is disabled, not the best idea in my view.

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It is normal at most clubs for some fans to move for Cup games so it seemed okay, however Andy Holt's comments have no regard to he recently published club charter so he would have been better apologising and saying it is a one off. With the spelling I doubt it was widely read :)


"HOME CUP COMPETETIONS

Season ticket holders can claim their allocated seat during a priority sales period. After this specified period, any unsold ‘reserved’ seats will be made available to all other home supporters at the discretion of the club."


http://accringtonstanley.co.uk/wp-co...-17-Rev-A1.pdf

Most would put something about ST holders not guaranteed their own seat, although the club would endeavour to do so.

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In all honesty I'm not sure why the hospitality people needed to sit in a specific block of seats. Why couldn't they just sit in the normally unallocated seats that are fairly central.

On saying the above I understand the club can make a few thousand extra out of this fixture and it is all vital money that may even help bring a player or two in at some stage.