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st06nc2 11-11-2016 16:27

Coleman
 
Immediate 2 match ban and £750 pound fine for abusing the referee against Crawley

accybeme 11-11-2016 18:16

Re: Coleman
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1181200)
Immediate 2 match ban and £750 pound fine for abusing the referee against Crawley

trouble is telling an official that he's made an error is seen as abuse today

st06nc2 11-11-2016 19:22

Re: Coleman
 
Says something when referee gets more protection than the players

monkey hanger 12-11-2016 07:50

Re: Coleman
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accybeme (Post 1181208)
trouble is telling an official that he's made an error is seen as abuse today

depends on how he said it though. seen and heard him when he looses it at the wham. can,t have a go at him though as some of the decisions made are poor to say the least and they always have some excuse for the mistakes made. more admission of mistakes from officials might help them and the game.

accybeme 12-11-2016 08:35

Re: Coleman
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1181221)
depends on how he said it though. seen and heard him when he looses it at the wham. can,t have a go at him though as some of the decisions made are poor to say the least and they always have some excuse for the mistakes made. more admission of mistakes from officials might help them and the game.

very true; but I would rather a passionate manager than one that looks as if he doesn't give a toss

Chrisr 12-11-2016 14:42

Re: Coleman
 
The officials I have witnessed at the Wham this season have been poor. I feel sorry for Coleman when there is so much at stake to have to suffer at the incompetence of a referee. I think we should have a whip round for him. The referee should have to explain his bad decisions to the club and public.

monkey hanger 13-11-2016 08:48

Re: Coleman
 
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Originally Posted by Chrisr (Post 1181257)
The referee should have to explain his bad decisions to the club and public.

i,m the referee and you should respect me and my decisions are always correct is what you,d get.

Chrisr 13-11-2016 09:41

Re: Coleman
 
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Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1181304)
i,m the referee and you should respect me and my decisions are always correct is what you,d get.

Perhaps if clubs refused to accept some of the officials the FA may sit up and start taking us seriously. I feel a revolution coming on from the lower Tiers of the football system.

monkey hanger 13-11-2016 10:14

Re: Coleman
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisr (Post 1181308)
Perhaps if clubs refused to accept some of the officials the FA may sit up and start taking us seriously. I feel a revolution coming on from the lower Tiers of the football system.

there,s more chance of stanley home games being a sell out. the fa will protect their referees no matter what fans and managers have to say. if managers don,t do their job they,re sacked. if players don,t perform they get dropped. if you say anything against officials you,re fined and or sent off. until they realise that some are not up to it things will never change kettle is certainly a good example of this and there,re others as well. when you know you,re untouchable you,ll never change and thats in all walks of life.

Lord Didsbury 13-11-2016 10:16

Re: Coleman
 
The ref yesterday was very good.
I'm not sure I share the same low opinion of officials. There's been a couple of very bad, petty ones this year but generally they are ok. No worse that 20/30 years ago.
It's the devils own job keeping everyone happy and having eyes in the back of your head.

MikeA 13-11-2016 11:43

Re: Coleman
 
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Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury (Post 1181310)
The ref yesterday was very good.

Brett Huxtable. It's his first season in the league after four seasons reffing in the Conference. We had him at Notts County in September and, from memory, he seemed to have a decent game there too. Averages one red card a season but this season it's already two. His local Devon paper reports him hoping to reach the Premier League.

Lord Didsbury 13-11-2016 14:31

Re: Coleman
 
Excellent ref research there!

Chimer 13-11-2016 15:16

Re: Coleman
 
I have to admit to having some sympathy for the bustards in the black (though obviously not in the instant when they've just given a decision, good or bad, against the Reds). They're under pressure for the entire time the ball is in play, unlike any individual player, and they make mistakes, like every player. OK some are spectacular - if Kettle hadn't blown his whistle we'd probably have got 2 more points from that game, and would have had to find another way not to get promoted, but was there any player in our squad who didn't miss an open goal, or a tackle or defensive header leading to a goal against, or get needlessly sent off, etc etc, thus making the same difference in the end?

monkey hanger 14-11-2016 08:24

Re: Coleman
 
It's the devils own job keeping everyone happy and having eyes in the back of your head.[/QUOTE]

they are not there to keep everyone happy just manage a game of football useing common sense. they also have another 3 pairs of eyes helping them. a lot of the problems are due to pre match instructions given out. i,ve had things like only i give penaltys told to me by more than one plus the game is for my benefit brigade.

keep the faith 14-11-2016 10:02

Re: Coleman
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1181362)
It's the devils own job keeping everyone happy and having eyes in the back of your head.

they are not there to keep everyone happy just manage a game of football useing common sense. they also have another 3 pairs of eyes helping them. a lot of the problems are due to pre match instructions given out. i,ve had things like only i give penaltys told to me by more than one plus the game is for my benefit brigade.[/QUOTE]

Eh?????

KiTChener 15-11-2016 18:12

Re: Coleman
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by keep the faith (Post 1181365)
they are not there to keep everyone happy just manage a game of football useing common sense. they also have another 3 pairs of eyes helping them. a lot of the problems are due to pre match instructions given out. i,ve had things like only i give penaltys told to me by more than one plus the game is for my benefit brigade.

Eh?????[/QUOTE]

Me know understand either.......
Maybe I am just an old numpty??
First half OK, second not so....

But.... on re-reading, are you saying that Refs only appear, selfishly, for THEIR OWN benefit ??

monkey hanger 16-11-2016 08:31

Re: Coleman
 
i,ll try to explain a little more. referees give their assistants before the game instructions on what and not what they want from from them. this varies from take left backs thats the position on the field where they all run now, and help as much as you can to the ones who basically want you just to do offsides and ball in and out of play and leave the rest to them. as i said before i,ve had referees say things like we,re the most important team out there etc. which does come over as the game is for their benefit.

keep the faith 17-11-2016 11:12

Re: Coleman
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1181458)
i,ll try to explain a little more. referees give their assistants before the game instructions on what and not what they want from from them. this varies from take left backs thats the position on the field where they all run now, and help as much as you can to the ones who basically want you just to do offsides and ball in and out of play and leave the rest to them. as i said before i,ve had referees say things like we,re the most important team out there etc. which does come over as the game is for their benefit.

Ehhh???

yerself 17-11-2016 16:21

Re: Coleman
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger
referees give their assistants before the game

What about their assistants during the game?:rolleyes:

monkey hanger 18-11-2016 08:16

Re: Coleman
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yerself (Post 1181528)
What about their assistants during the game?:rolleyes:

they,ve had their instructions from the referee on what to do during the game beforehand. simples.

st06nc2 18-11-2016 10:41

Re: Coleman
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1181553)
they,ve had their instructions from the referee on what to do during the game beforehand. simples.

Surely the assistants are there to give another opinion on incidents not be yes sir no sir with the ref

monkey hanger 19-11-2016 08:09

Re: Coleman
 
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Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1181560)
Surely the assistants are there to give another opinion on incidents not be yes sir no sir with the ref

i agree one hundred per cent with you but its not always the case. read my other posts. i still referee on a sunday morning and have run the line at a decent non league level in the past so i know what i,m on about as these things have happened to me.

Greeny 19-11-2016 10:54

Re: Coleman
 
and I thought this thread was about John Coleman ???

yerself 22-11-2016 15:17

Re: Coleman
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greeny
and I thought this thread was about John Coleman ???

Just shows how wrong you can be.:)


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