Leyton orient match thread
 

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Good preview on us but have we really become this predictable?

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It would seem so, which is a worry - sounds like Orient have certainly done their homework on us, just hope we've done ours :rolleyes:

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If it's easy for me to find then it's going to be even easier for managers to find it

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knowing what to do is easy, doing it is a different matter.

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Anybody running a book on what minute Nicky Hunt will get sent off? :)

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not forgetting alex cisak

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Is Dan not doing coverage?:confused:

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Stanley: Chapman, Lacey, Beckles, Hughes, Pearson, McConville, Brown, Davies, O'Sullivan, Clark, Gornell

Stanley subs: Little, Vyner, McCartan, Boco, Taylor-Fletcher, Hewitt, Conneely

Kee, parish injured, vyner got clearance to play yesterday and GK little from youth squad

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Golden Boy as captain...........................

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Sent off Golden balls up.

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Oh no whatever will we do without golden boy?

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Some Captain.:rolleyes:

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Unbelievable he was captain in the first place and now this debacle:mad:

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Yeah it's a first...I've never seen a captain sent off before!

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Surely he was appointed captain because of his personal qualities; maturity, judgement, leadership and sense of responsibility. There couldn't be any other reason, could there?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Pathetic comments - of course no captain has ever been sent off before, oh hang on - Luke Joyce, Nicky Hunt & dare I say it, even Paul Mullin (once at Rochdale but worth it cos he put Polly Perkins on his backside) :)

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Apparently Stanley fans been fighting amongst themselves!

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Difficult 45 mins ahead. Mc sent off v harshly, a foul and yellow perhaps but not red. Orient haven't exactly threatened, but they will no doubt throw everything at us. Stanley doing OK with 11, but struggling to make an impression with 10.

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Not fighting among ourselves Nige. Some lads that the Ultras say they haven't seen before have become embroiled with stewards over language, with the stewards themselves guilty of some imflammatory language. Best move on.

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There's a video on twitter if you search for @TheAwayFansVids of the fans fighting doesn't look good at all!

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Looks like a couple of home fans in the away stand.............

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1-0 . :(

Make no mistake, relegation battle is on .

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1-0 down and 22nd in league heading one way

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Don't panic, the messiah will sort it :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Always a positive, might be a few games our new captain could miss.

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Thought that'd be the case Phil, not in our D.N.A.

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2 orient fans in away end, afew reports saying stewards threw punches also?

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All over

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Safe trip to all those travelling home, I used to work around the corner, it can be a stinker of a journey.

As for the game, sounded pretty terrible. As for golden boy ?!?! In a word, PATHETIC.

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email

Am I the only one beginning to consider the fact that THIS Stanley team are not quite good enough for League football ?. Or am I,as so often,somewhat disillusioned ?.

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love the Polly Perkins bit, remember it well!!

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This season is turning into a nightmare needs turning soon or could be Andy Holts first big decision on the managers department. We need to find some confidence from somewhere and also someone to start scoring cup runs are all well and good but league status is a must.

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League table never lies mate.

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In other years we could rely on loan deals out of the window to save us, now we can't

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From a football point of view,we are definitely a top ten team,its scoring goals that is the Achilles heel and we are not being rewarded with points that the performances deserved.
Trying to be positive,when Stevenage went up,I am sure they were near the bottom at Xmas!!!
Just need to turn the tide

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Oh **** :(

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How much are the likes of Taylor Fletcher and Eagles being paid to train and not much else baffling if there here to just pick a wage up get rid and bring some young eager talent in the January window.

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With some strikers.

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Not that easy Andy,Halifax's forward is getting three times what Acci's highest earner gets !!

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When we reached the play offs in 2011 we'd had an, at best, mediocre start & were 18th in February - we then had an amazing run & the rest is history, just saying anything can & does happen in football

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I think that's a little pessimistic Yonmon but at the moment we are on the wrong end of some very fine margins. Orient today hardly had a shot on target, whether against 11 or 10. They managed a spawny goal and then survived a goalmouth scramble where we were desperately unlucky not to score. Could have easily held out for a point otherwise. Best to keep our heads rather than start to speculate about misfortunes ahead. We need to offer more threat up front, no question, but Coley has always found the solution from within and we should give him some trust that he can turn this around.

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Eagles is away due to family circumstances last I heard

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I think the players you mention along with some others are not in favour and I think that is a management weakness we have discussed previously. The experience these players have should be passing on to others in the team and you can only do that properly if they are playing regularly. Maybe they have mentioned the tactics to the manager????

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Get a grip. I'll run round Accy market naked if we don't finish in the top 7. Still a class team (including Sean) with a great manager. All teams have ****e runs. This is just a ****e run.

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Not at all, you are without doubt, most definitely fully illusioned.;):)

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That's why we are 1 place above the league 2 relegation zone!:rolleyes:

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Four games ago Cambridge were near the bottom,started scoring and are now are two points from the playoffs!!
As I said before it's a strange league this year

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Without a doubt, the league table does not lie. But! It sometimes deceives. We aren't converting chances. Last season we scored in almost every game, but we needed and created many more chances in games than we are doing this season. Our approach play is often better but we don' t seem to have the urgency we had last year. We'd often shoot from anywhere and it would trickle in or get a deflection....and Windass was a master of running into the box and falling over a leg .......we need more of the same...... less attractive approach play and more direct shooting and running..... Rommy's the only player who does this in the current team......reading this back it sounds like rubbish.... but some of you may know what I'm getting at?😉

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Like last week at Woking, the sending off turned the match into a different game. Prior to that, it was a great, end-to-end tussle with both sides showing intent.
I, and others, were puzzled why our 'proper' captain was sat on the bench, along with an apparently fully-fit left-back, but the players on the pitch were really getting into their stride for the first 20 minutes. The midfield of Messrs Davies, Brown, and Lacey was, I thought, starting to show great promise. Then, I suspect because he's isn't a full back, our 'temporary' captain lets one their better forwards get past him and 'pulls' him down. Very harsh red card, but the ref and the linesman on our side were a couple of idiots and, after what seemed like a five minute chat together, decided McMarmite had to go. About the only positive to take from that was at least it was him, and not another Stanley player, who might have really been missed.
After that it was much harder work, with Lacey once again 'relegated' to playing left-back and losing what influence he'd begun to exert in midfield. But all ten Stanley players really gave their best. No-one left on the field had a bad game. I'm not even sure that, for once, the substitutions were a good idea. Replacing Gornell, who seems to have gained a bit of muscle and was battling well with their big centre backs, with McCarten wasn't really effective. Orient's back line of four weren't going anywhere near the half way line, so there was no space for McCarten to exploit. BTW, he ain't Payet, and needs to spend the next two weeks doing extra practice until he can at least hit the target.
I've seen Stanley play worse and win. But, Orient were also not a bad team and had some tricky forwards who, but for one scrappy, scrambled, goal, were pretty well contained by our defence.
But there's plenty of good teams who've gone down claiming they were constantly unlucky and Stanley have no reason, on today's result, to think it can't happen to them.

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McConville incorrectly sent off as Beckles was covering. Orient scored via a handball. Things not going our way but hardly a crisis. Much ado about a little bit more than nothing.

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Of course I fervently hope that this will be the case Phil, but I do get despondent when viewing the clean sheets kept against us !.

Perhaps, as Jnr. Is always reminding me, I really do expect too much from a developing team.

On Stanley, On to greater things !... is still my battle cry!.

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I take it back. The ref wasn't an idiot. He was a completely cretinous buffoon who shouldn't be allowed to referee a game of tiddly-winks. Move over Mr.Kettle, you've lost the top spot in the Table of Numpties.

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Knew as soon as I saw it was Drysdale in the middle this afternoon that it'd be a rocky road ��

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I believe that Callum Jones is back at his parent Club - injured I think??

:) :) :)

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Is that the same Sean who's played superbly at left back in the last 3 or 4 games?

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OK for the first time ever I am going to be critical of Beckles. When the cross came in for the goal he just got bullied by the centre forward. Should have cleared that away no problem.
The team is desperate for a forward. The supply routes are fine but we rarely win the first ball and even worse the second ball.
January is critical. Two forwards in even if loan deals. There are some good young lads playing in the under 21s at major clubs that would jump at the chance for three months to make their mark.
I know it was League One not Two - but two loan signings turned Barnsley into world beaters - Fletcher and Isgrove. They are there these nuggets - just go to go out there and find them and invest a little. Premiership teams and some Championship clubs will even pay a big portion of their wages.

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get off the lads back FFS there are quite a few players not playing up to scratch and they are playing in their normal positions.

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Perhaps if he played as many good matches as bad they would.:rolleyes:

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I seen the majority of the teams in league two this season and I am sure if we had big Akinfenwa up front for us we would be in the top five.
He's turned Wycombe from a average side,to one that challenging for promotion.
Just need a focal point/goals,the rest is good

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Twenty Eight - not so sure. Looked like a fiercely contested header on the telly box. The time to be really critical is when there is a free header.

Sean's sending off on the replay looks fair enough for a red card.

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The replay showed no argument at all the red card was unjustified to me.

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Was that on the basis you think Beckles would have got acrossbefore he shot? No chance in my opinion.

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The fact that the striker who allegedly 'bullied' Omar then had to go off to have the blood stemmed and his head bandaged suggests that there was no lack of commitment from either player.
For all Gornell's efforts, I thought Orient's front striker was much more of a physical threat than Stanley's, and usually had their scorer close by to pick up loose balls. Even if he did sometimes use his arm to control the ball.

But both O'Sullivan and Clark once again provided good threats out wide, it's just someone, or a pair, that's missing in the middle to convert the chances.
Instead of a digital screen, how about crowd funding a bid for Akinfenwa, like F19 suggests;)

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Barnet have Akinde 15 goals already this season I know London is probably a much better pull than Accy but surely as an established league 2 club with similar gates to Barnet we could pull in a decent box predator who can finish our decent approach play.

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It's always a gamble Andy for a club with our budget.
A named,good striker would set us back £4K minimum per week,so that's £200k per year,probably a third of the budget on one player.
They would want a minimum two year deal.
You can get six players for that,hoping 1/2 prove a decent buy.
That's why I mentioned Akinfenwa,he tends to go for twelve month deals,but there's no guarantee he would settle up here !!,who would be a manager :)

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He might if he knew the Hollands pie factory's just up the road :D

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We need to look for the semi pro non league stars might be abit cheaper and could be persuaded to sign for less with the incentive of playing for a league club

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Not enough players chipping in with goals from all over the park. Not midfielders or full backs or centre backs. Really only Billy and Rommy scoring on what you would call a regular basis. That's our problem. If we were scoring and therefore picking up points there wouldn't be any of this criticism of players or tactics or formations. Only the management team with the players can sort it out. Coley is used to bringing loan players in to freshen things up, but he can't do that or the first time this season. ...... so it will have to be hard work and team spirit that pulls us through.....we need Grit, desire and determination.... starting on Saturday.

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a few observations about saturday and the general league season as a whole. seans sending off could have gone either way, but with people like drysdale in charge you don,t give him a chance to give the opposition a chance. as for comments about us being a top 10 side, well we may be up to the last quarter of the pitch and then we look as poor as you will see. one goal in god knows how many goals says it all and with the present system and players just can,t see it getting better. plenty of hard work to be done in january by coley to improve things but for those who think we are too good to go down be warned as its been said by plenty of other teams fans in the past.

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[QUOTE=Revived Red;1182851][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="3"]"Played superbly"?? "For 3 or 4 games"?? Can you be exact, please, about how many games he has actually played full back? As for his performance in the Yeovil game, I certainly would not say that it was "superb". Nor would another spectator whose views I respect:


Well for me he did okay in that game vs Yeovil. He did really well against Stevenage, Hartlepool and Woking there so theres 3 games for you. No doubt you'll disagree though so pointless getting into this. I see you are unbelievably quick to criticise Sean but find it hard to ever remember you saying he did well when he has had a good game.

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[QUOTE=AccyStan1962;1182914]To be quite honest, I have great difficulty in remembering when he did have a good game. I am well aware that others can see qualities that elude me but it's all about opinions. I see that your opinion changed from him being "superb" at Yeovil to "did okay". I do think that there is a slight difference between these two assessments.

As for his performance in the Stevenage game, maybe consider these:

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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1181676) McConville had a poor game

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Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip (Post 1181694) Or even better, replace McConville who was ineffective.

The management are doing him no favours by playing him at full back. He was caught badly out of position on at least 2 occasions at Leyton before his dismissal.

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Thats the problem,even non-league players are on more than our players !!
Didn't Sean double his money going into non-league??
The lad Denton at Halifax is on double our highest earner and he has only played half a dozen games this year.
Getting Billy Kee fit and firing is what is needed,sooner the better.

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Getting Billy Kee fit and firing is what is needed,sooner the better.[/QUOTE]

plus getting someone to play along with him. he can,t do it all or should we want him to do. totally unfare on the lad.

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Looking again (masochism, l know) at the brief 'highlights' of the match, I think RR's comment is more telling.
It's a good but predictable cross right into the six-yard box, Mr. Chapman makes a move to claim the ball, and could have done so before it reached the Orient forward, but, for whatever reason, he backed off.
He's a big lad but, like many keepers these days, doesn't always seem willing to use his physical attributes to dominate his area despite the fact that, given the protection keepers have from most refs, most challenges on them when in the air are likely to be penalised if it results in the keeper dropping the ball.