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Twenty Eight

11-12-2016 12:27

Re: Time to discuss Coleman

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1182855)

A certain player has been named many times by quite a few,which yeh would be aware of if yeh read the forum regular Twenty Eight.;)

So why say "a certain player" why not just refer to him by name or is everyone scared to do it ?

cashman

11-12-2016 12:43

Re: Time to discuss Coleman

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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1182861)

So why say "a certain player" why not just refer to him by name or is everyone scared to do it ?

Not in the least i have done many times, it gets boring as you are beginning to be.:rolleyes:

Revived Red

11-12-2016 13:00

Re: Time to discuss Coleman

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Originally Posted by Chrisr (Post 1182858)

Why are players brought through from the academy never given a chance at Stanley?

An excellent question. We read about the fantastic successes of the youth team in recent years, but the most we ever see of them now is an occasional appearance on the bench. Coley is often quoted as being keen to give a chance to eager young players who are hungry for success, but it never happens in reality. There are plenty of Premiership managers keen to give youngsters a chance at the highest level.

Chewbacca

11-12-2016 13:53

Re: Time to discuss Coleman

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1182863)

An excellent question. We read about the fantastic successes of the youth team in recent years, but the most we ever see of them now is an occasional appearance on the bench. Coley is often quoted as being keen to give a chance to eager young players who are hungry for success, but it never happens in reality. There are plenty of Premiership managers keen to give youngsters a chance at the highest level.

Rarely ever happens these days, it is almost the opposite. Coleman has given countless young players a chance and turned their careers around.

cashman

11-12-2016 13:55

Re: Time to discuss Coleman

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Originally Posted by Chewbacca (Post 1182865)

Rarely ever happens these days, it is almost the opposite. Coleman has given countless young players a chance and turned their careers around.

Who was the last that came through from the youth side then?:confused:

Chewbacca

11-12-2016 14:23

Re: Time to discuss Coleman

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1182866)

Who was the last that came through from the youth side then?:confused:

Most came from other teams youth sides, any good young player will go to a team with a top class academy at the first opportunity, then they filter down to lower leagues and non-league, as Stanley have benefited from for decades.

Even Connor Mahoney left at 16 or so.

AccyMad

11-12-2016 15:17

Re: Time to discuss Coleman

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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1182861)

So why say "a certain player" why not just refer to him by name or is everyone scared to do it ?

Oh, some name him alright - quite often - you only need to read the comments on the Orient match thread after he was sent off :rolleyes:

cashman

11-12-2016 15:17

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Originally Posted by Chewbacca (Post 1182870)

Exactly, Conner hadn't become a first team regular when he was sold? as far as i remember, I'm referring to who came from ours and got a real chance?as i recall Marcus got the occasional start but was never given a good run?

Revived Red

11-12-2016 15:23

Re: Time to discuss Coleman

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Originally Posted by Chewbacca (Post 1182865)

Rarely ever happens these days, it is almost the opposite.

Rashford, Kane and Sims come to mind straight away.

shakermaker

11-12-2016 15:24

Re: Time to discuss Coleman

Put the question the other way - how many of our now-released youth team products have gone on to better things? None that I can think of. If they're good enough, they play. See Bobby Grant, Peter Murphy and Connor Mahoney.

football19

11-12-2016 16:06

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Unfortunately Shakers right,and it will only get worse !!,
If a 1st year YTS shows real quality,then the top academy teams will start circling.
It's a saying in football you want to be at a top teams academy as if/when your released,there's more branches to grab hold of as you fall down the tree !!
Hence,when we release young lads they tend to end up in non-league

keep the faith

11-12-2016 17:07

Re: Time to discuss Coleman

When is Ross Sykes going to get his chance? Sitting on the bench week after week, which prevents him from even getting a game with the youth team. How can this help with his development as a young 17 year old professional?

Revived Red

11-12-2016 18:14

Re: Time to discuss Coleman

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Originally Posted by football19 (Post 1182880)

So would you agree, f19, that there is no point in us having an academy and youth team?

The logic seems to be that the good ones go to a "top academy" while the less good ones go to non-league. And we gain nothing.:confused::confused:

football19

11-12-2016 19:16

Re: Time to discuss Coleman

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1182890)

Bit more complicated than that as it's tied up with funding /football in the community etc..
This is why a lot of clubs don't have a reserve team and the top teams are under 21/23s
That's why taking lads on loan at 18/19 is key,as normally when released,they are the first clubs they talk to.

Chrisr

11-12-2016 20:27

Re: Time to discuss Coleman

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1182874)

I watched young Nathan Webb play last season and he has shown great promise and he has never featured in a senior game yet. This lad can go a long way if he gets a chance, Young Connor Mahoney hardly got a game and was sold. He is still developing at Blackburn but will be a great player. Why can't we do this at Stanley? There is so much that I feel the management could do better.

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