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Any chance of the game been called off? I know they've tweeted that thier grounds man had put covers on half of the pitch
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If it's anything like down here in Hampshire, most the very light snow disappeared today and there should not to be any more precipitation on Saturday.
As long as they keep the covers on overnight to protect from frost, there ought to be a game on, although on their fan's forum there are comments about a poor surface, so don't count on it being a game of passing football. |
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ground share with gloucester city so gets more than average amount of football on it.
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Could have been worse if it was Gloucester RFC.
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I haven't ventured out yet from team HQ; but the sun is shining and no sign of any over night frost.
More importantly nothing from Cheltenham so anticipating no issues:) |
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More importantly nothing from Cheltenham so anticipating no issues:)[/QUOTE]
is that what burton fans were told a couple of years ago. |
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With players returning to their Clubs, we will be seeing some changes in the team today :)
I feel that if Edwards gets enough time on the field today, he will have an influential part to play :) :) :) :) |
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I predict GTF definitely won't be in the team :)
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And I predict that John o' Sullivan won't be missed ! . |
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Rommy for me :)
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Either for me rate both lads,:)
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ASFC: Rodak, Pearson, Hughes, Beckles, Donacien, McConville, Brown, Conneely, Clark, Edwards, Kee
ASFC subs: Davies, Gornell, McCartan, Boco, Chapman, Sykes, Rodgers |
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That looks a promising line up to me.:)were yeh get the info? are yeh down yon?
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I've just made a brew & settled down with SSN, relying on Jeff Stelling to keep me informed :)
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Feel sorry for him when the monkey hangars conseed
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Notts County v Mansfield finished nil apiece so keeps County below us
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Its on fishy now.:)
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Better late than never :). To be fair they are out in the sticks a bit, WiFi"s probably a bit dodgy - they've only just got electrickity down there
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O Sullivan back at rovers then?
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1-0 down
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Down to 10 men.
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Down to 10 men as well now.:eek: Brown off
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2-0 down now.
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2-0 thats us knackered:eek:
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My god this is hard yaka following the Stanley this season...Still,I guess we were spoilt last one...
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3-0 now
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Sounds like another dodgy ref, Lee Swabey? Doesn't ring a bell but he's now on.my s**t ref's database
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3-0
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Hi John, Last season we were a team with quality in its ranks......this season the lack of quality means, unfortunately, that, sad to say the REDS are just not good enough .! |
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I just feel sorry for those that I have travelled.
Totally and utterly pathetic according to reports from a friend. When will people start asking questions of the management ?!?!?! Im a worried man, that's a cert. |
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Another defeat but more worryingly a heavy one.
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So changing the keeper didn't work then? Feel sorry for the lad, what a baptism of fire.
According to Dan the red card shouldn't have been one & it entirely changed the game - wasn't there so can't comment but the ref did seem a little card happy, in particular towards our players. |
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Seemed to change after the dismissal?:(
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Here we go again!
You can't blame the ref for being biased, he gave 14 fouls against Cheltenham & only 8 against Stanley. |
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Yes but how many of our lads did he book compared to theirs & who was it who had a man (wrongly) sent off? This happened at Hartlepool & we got the card rescinded but it's too late to do any good by then
I know you can never totally blame the ref but a lot of the one's we get landed with certainly don't help & when they get decisions so far wrong that they affect the outcome of a game they should be accountable for their actions P.s. Sorry, this was in reply to Lord thingy's post Joe, not yours |
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But as soon as the whistle is blown there are some who (perhaps also not at the match) are already blaming the officials for our loss. It's becoming the 'go to' response for every defeat. |
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Nothing less than expected today - let's face it, they had lost 6 in 7.....
Must be the 4th time at least this season that we have lost to a team out of form.... :( Typical that Carlisle - unbeaten forever at the start of the season - are stuttering, not won in 3.... Coley will get it right, of that I am more than sure :) :) :) :) |
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And, lest we forget, Cheltenham Town are not a Middlesbrough United !....and if the Reds persist in dishing out late Christmas presents my anxieties are really going to kick in !.
I think that the referees decision whether right or wrong is not the only factor in today's defeat, my feelings are that once again the Reds have failed to score and to keep a clean sheet. A compound if repeated regularly is almost guaranteed to bring failure in its wake ! Quo Vadis Stanley ?. |
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Thats it-I'm going to wear different undies.
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How long have you been wearing your current knickers then ?. But thanks for that little insight into antipodean pants anyway !... |
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How long are people going to blame the ref every time we don't win. Simple factor we don't score goals, we let goals in, 11 men, 10 men, 5 yellow cards, whatever. Simple not good enough this year. We release players that than sign for a higher league club and start playing well. Yet we play same side week in week out and get the same results. No fight,
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We can only use the ref as an excuse so many times. We have to look at our playing techniques. We seem to fall apart too easily. We should by all acounts been able to recover from this. Dan said it was a very poor game. It then got a lot worse for us. Coley has to turn this around very quickly. The clock is ticking.
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Just listened to Coley's post match interview, according to him as they were coming off the pitch one of the Cheltenham players said to Coley 'the ref was the best player for us' - anyone still think the ref wasn't at fault today.- not for everything of course but his contribution to the debacle can't be ignored
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We were one down with 11 against 11. Talk about desperation blaming officials
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It's time we stopped blaming officials and saying we have bad luck, you make your own luck, things need to change and soon time to take the rose tinted specs off and see some players for what they are, Scott brown yes it wasn't a red card but tbh I have never rated him, keepers send the ball down the middle 90% of time a short player like Brown can't get to them, if you compare the height and strength of some of our players it's nothing compared to the rest of the league, there's players who constantly make mistakes and have bad games while we have players just sat warming the bench every week because coley won't make changes, this team isn't working somewhere he's been trying it for long enough it's time some of the reserve players got given a chance
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Yes, the referee was poor. But we were abysmal. In actual fact, our standard of play seemed to improve after the sending-off.
There are some serious questions to be asked now. Let's start with the new keeper. Why was he used today? Clearly he had never trained with the team. It was very odd indeed to see him being introduced to the rest of the team during the warm-up. Aaron Chapman looked totally p***ed off. The next question to ask is about training. Are the players not told to find a space or to make a run to receive the ball? Our players were static, no movement whatsoever. Our passing was predictable - so the Cheltenham players could intercept very easily. In fact, far too often, we saved them the trouble of intercepting by passing directly to them. In fact it looked as though most of the Stanley players were strangers to each other, not only the new keeper. Coley often talks of shaking things up. It's all talk - it never happens. On today's form, it is going to be a long fight against relegation. Of course we may have played abysmally today in order to confuse any Middlesbrough spies who happened to be there. :rolleyes: |
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Can only endorse Revived Red's summary. That was the worst Stanley performance I've seen for quite some time.
I was embarrassed for a fellow southern exile who persuaded a crowd of his mates to forego the Bristol City v Cardiff game to watch an appallingly inept performance. Cheltenham totally out-played, out-thought, and, with the exception of our back four (and especially Pearson), out-fought Stanley. The ref was poor, but no worse than we've come to expect in League 2 and I for one immediately said "that's a red" when Brown when flying in, missed the ball, and took their player off at the knees. As for the 'unfairness' of the yellow cards, Stanley's second was because Gornell, having failed to persuade the lineswoman that he'd won a corner (which he hadn't), he then said something to her that she reported to the ref. Unprofessional is probably the kindest explanation for Gornell's stupidity. It was as if Stanley were show-casing all their frustrating short-comings in the one match. Predictable, slow, over-intricate passing in over-crowded areas, poor control, blasting over the bar from 8 yards (does McCarten practice in front of a barn door?), rarely running onto balls put through into space, not even using the width of the pitch to find space, standing still waiting for the ball to come to them, half-hearted tackling especially from midfielders, confusion over who's ball it was (can't blame the keeper who, as RR said, was actually being introduced to the rest of the team in the warm-up). It wasn't a bad day at the office, it was a bad month and a half. |
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Two excellent & concurring reports from Exile & Revived Red, who actually went to the game.
I think those whose knee-jerk reaction was to rush to blame the ref as soon as the whistle went now have egg on their face. Perhaps they were influenced by the new Hollywood blockbuster just out - 'La La Land' |
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From the telly it's pretty obvious Brown got a deserved red card.
The back pass was also an obvious back pass. On to the next match.... |
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We're obviously struggling & yesterday's game was never going to be easy, imo throwing the new keeper in straight away was a mistake - just hope shipping three on his debut doesn't sent his confidence too much as his loan conditions will probably mean he's first choice for most games. I'm not blaming the lad either, Billy's not getting the service he needs as he did last season & it's not the fault of those who are filling Josh & Piero's boots, they're doing their best as far as I can see. But we're a fickle lot, as are most football fans - last week we were wonderful & awaiting the draw for the 4th round with bated breath, this week we're awful & deserved all we got - the truth is probably somewhere in the middle & we go again, Carlisle next week before the big one at the Riverside - maybe our lads had one eye on that game yesterday, who knows but whatever happens we need to be 110% behind the team & just be grateful that we're not in Morecambe's shoes |
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no next week is the big one the boro game is just a side show. we can,t just rely on notts county and newport being poor. we need points on the board quickly. its time some start to smell the coffee as its going to be a long 3 months infront of us to keep our football league place. need to put all our differences behind us over the next few months and try to sing out of the same songsheet. |
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The sad thing is nothing will change in tactics, communication, substitution timings. and playing one up front. Every club in the league knows how we play and can neutralise us very easily. We can be good in short bursts and we have got by on that so far this season. Last season we had ample opportunities to win promotion and we were not good enough then and we are worse now. Something has to give. There is something sadly amiss with training and development of the team. The players just released were never given a proper chance to help the club as we expected them to. Chris Eagles left to go to Portvale and played in his normal position and played his own game and was credited with 3 assists in their 4-0 win. Is this a pointer to a problem with the training at our club, I then ask why so many left last season to go to other clubs like Portsmouth, Morecambe. Blackpool. We know why Piero left but how many decent players have left Stanley and either improved or even were happy just to be away. something is wrong and needs sorting out.
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Good points well made, Chrisr, but, on the issue of the one-up front, the new lad Edwards played yesterday just behind Mr. Kee, and looked lively in brief moments. It was hard to judge from behind the goal how well Kee and Edwards combined in the first half, but someone who watched that half from midway then joined us for the second half did suggest they hadn't yet got their radars on sync.
Unfortunately, despite Edwards physical strength, the Cheltenham back four out-muscled both Stanley's forward players most of the time. Billy also got no protection from the ref who obviously didn't think being pushed, shoved or held from behind is foul. But then that is always going to be the case for a man who always has to receive the ball with his back to goal. What frustrates me most about Stanley, when they are as off as they were yesterday, is the fact they never seem to use the space behind defences to run into, but always try to ticky-tacky their way through a massed defence as if they are still doing that pre-match training routine. If you notice, that routine simply practices goes round and round in circles, never driving forward. |
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Last season we had ample opportunities to win promotion.(un quote) I personally think that was our undoing, too many games to get required result, so when you lose the first game, think's never mind we will do it next game, till we ran out of next games.
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Any player under 24 is transferred to another club for a fee.
We've received fees for Grant, Craney( twice) and Roberts. We also received fees for Naismith, Aldred and Mahoney. We are also due a fee for Etheridge. |
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How much were the fees that we received please?:rolleyes: Why the secrecy? |
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Anyway, what difference does knowing a figure make, other than it would allow some folk on here to moan it was not enough and some others think it was too much. |
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ASFC currently (to my knowledge) and certainly in the past don't release transfer fees.
IF we did all those people who we get favours from in the world of business and football would be saying you've just sold Joe for £80k; you can't be skint!! Likewise we sell Joe for £50k and say we've no more to buy a replacement; it's obvious we have as they know the fee received. The best example is the fee received by Exeter for Matt Grimms of £1.75m was leaked to the press by the agent. This amount was paid in installments and this amount was appearance based. Exeter have only received a small amount of these monies upfront. Consequently any player wanting a move to Exeter is demanding big money and their agents are also wanting big monies; as they think Exeter are "loaded". Exeter are trust owed can't borrow money and have an aging ground. |
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Well though i wasn't there, i saw the sending off on telly a few times, and fail to see what all the fuss oer it was?? to me many Refs would have issued a red,so why we are appealing it,is totally baffling to me.:confused::confused:
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As a Club now we can afford to be patient and accept the first over. I believe an agreement was reached over the weekend. |
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Just trying to 'weedle' a bit of info :smoky: |
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