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st06nc2 18-01-2017 14:24

Final game of season
 
It's been confirmed the final game will be a 5:30pm ko for all league 2 games

EFL: Kick-off time confirmed for final round of Sky Bet League Two fixtures

st06nc2 18-01-2017 14:26

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Championship and league 1 games all kick off at noon

cashman 18-01-2017 14:40

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What a stupid time, no thought at all given to supporters, glad were away.:rolleyes:

Chrisr 18-01-2017 14:59

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Everybody should avoid the games home or away in all the affected leagues. That is a powerful message the FA will notice. I doubt if they will do anything though.

AccyMad 18-01-2017 15:43

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Ridiculous decision! And of course, it's down to Sky Sports so that they can fit a lower league game into their schedule!!
Wouldn't have been going to Stevenage anyway but if I was the late kick off time would certainly have made me think twice. It was a similar time when we played the first leg of the play offs down there albeit on a Sunday & it was a long, long journey home.
If we'd had a home fixture though I wouldn't have boycotted it as you suggest Chris, can see where you're coming from but I can't imagine missing a home game unless I was ill & physically incapable of going

cashman 18-01-2017 15:56

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Have to be honest if we had a home fixture i would not have attended.

st06nc2 18-01-2017 15:57

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Feel sorry for Carlisle they're away to Exeter last game

Exile on Spencer St 18-01-2017 15:59

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As if Satanage in the last game is not bad enough. This is pathetic pandering to coach potatoes.

cashman 18-01-2017 16:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1185724)
Feel sorry for Carlisle they're away to Exeter last game

Thats my point, no consideration has been given at all to supporters, whilst some may ignore it, i wouldn't.

Exile on Spencer St 18-01-2017 18:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1185724)
Feel sorry for Carlisle they're away to Exeter last game

It's fitting that this latest knee-bend to the God of Sky was announced by the League 2 club's rep who, according to the Fishy site, thinks it will somehow allow more fans of League 2 enjoy the finale " first hand" (by first hand I presume he means the hand the holds the TV remote control).
The irony is Nixon is from Carlisle Utd.
The train from Exeter to Carlisle leaving after 8pm on Saturday seems to involve a 10 hour overnight stay in the waiting room at Newport :eek: before reaching Carlisle mid-day Sunday.
The only reason why telly shows a match at 5:30pm is to avoid clashing with 3pm kick-offs. But if there aren't any 3pm matches, why not just leave the fixtures alone and televise the game earlier?

deeayess 18-01-2017 19:15

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Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1185738)
It's fitting that this latest knee-bend to the God of Sky was announced by the League 2 club's rep who, according to the Fishy site, thinks it will somehow allow more fans of League 2 enjoy the finale " first hand" (by first hand I presume he means the hand the holds the TV remote control).
The irony is Nixon is from Carlisle Utd.
The train from Exeter to Carlisle leaving after 8pm on Saturday seems to involve a 10 hour overnight stay in the waiting room at Newport :eek: before reaching Carlisle mid-day Sunday.
The only reason why telly shows a match at 5:30pm is to avoid clashing with 3pm kick-offs. But if there aren't any 3pm matches, why not just leave the fixtures alone and televise the game earlier?

No can do "UK football’s TV blackout rule prevents live football matches from being televised between 2.45pm and 5.15pm on Saturday afternoons"

A bit stupid if this is the result of it.

Lord Didsbury 18-01-2017 19:58

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Excuse my ignorance but if a match finishes about 7:30pm and it's 3-4 hours home then isn't that a good fit into the end of the weekend? More time for pre match drinkees too. (I accept it's not great for Carlisle v Exeter).

I know it means missing "Heartbeat" or whatever Sunday night viewing is these days but is that too much of a hardship?

Exile on Spencer St 18-01-2017 20:03

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So much for that rule, Duncan.
Just figured that on May 6th Sky are showing a match at 3pm between....guess who? Arsenal and Man Utd.
Still, I suppose those two are so rarely on telly that it's worth we cosseted League 2 fans making a little sacrifice, especially as it'll be pure joy for Orient fans to get from Blackpool, Plymouth fans from Grimsby, and Morecambe fans from Luton on Saturday night.

cashman 18-01-2017 21:04

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Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury (Post 1185742)
Excuse my ignorance but if a match finishes about 7:30pm and it's 3-4 hours home then isn't that a good fit into the end of the weekend? More time for pre match drinkees too. (I accept it's not great for Carlisle v Exeter).

I know it means missing "Heartbeat" or whatever Sunday night viewing is these days but is that too much of a hardship?

Sod all to do with whats on telly,as for more time for pre match drinkies, yes it gives the dickheads plenty of time to get rat arsed,that may suit you LordD, but i know plenty it don't.:rolleyes:

deeayess 18-01-2017 21:30

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Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1185743)
So much for that rule, Duncan.
Just figured that on May 6th Sky are showing a match at 3pm between....guess who? Arsenal and Man Utd.
Still, I suppose those two are so rarely on telly that it's worth we cosseted League 2 fans making a little sacrifice, especially as it'll be pure joy for Orient fans to get from Blackpool, Plymouth fans from Grimsby, and Morecambe fans from Luton on Saturday night.

Sky won't have picked the fixture times that far yet for the premiership so it will be moved. Only games shown abroad and not in the UK can be shown between those times on a Saturday.

Only fixtures up to the end of February have been listed on the Sky site so far.

There is talk of trying to change the rule but it hasn't been yet.

mab 18-01-2017 22:08

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Blackburn home game against Newcastle on 2/01/2017 was a 3pm ko yet it was live on sky ! And that's partly the reason Stanley hand a lower attendance that one would have expected for a bank holiday game.:(

deeayess 18-01-2017 22:34

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Originally Posted by mab (Post 1185753)
Blackburn home game against Newcastle on 2/01/2017 was a 3pm ko yet it was live on sky ! And that's partly the reason Stanley hand a lower attendance that one would have expected for a bank holiday game.:(

The rule only applies to a Saturday

Lord Stiffupperlip 18-01-2017 22:55

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It's about tie the sweet 'F.A.' realised that football is the property of the fans, who give their time & hard earned money following their team.
The EFL are only custodians of our sport. What gives them the right to inconvenience genuine fans at the whim of Sky Sport. This ludicrous decision has shown they don't give a fig for the fans.
To then wrap it up as somehow being a more exciting deal for supporters just adds insult to injury.
I'd horsewhip the b******s!

Mr T 19-01-2017 07:58

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This is nothing to do with the FA.

I'll look up the exact figures but around £70 million comes into the EFL from Sky TV.


ASFC and other L2 clubs get 8% of this money.

As a proud member of the EFL we ( as every other club) take the monies we're given therefore we all have to accept there will be requirements for this cash.

cashman 19-01-2017 08:05

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Requirement that treat the supporters like crap, hardly surprising your in favour of it MRT.:confused:

monkey hanger 19-01-2017 08:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1185762)
This is nothing to do with the FA.

I'll look up the exact figures but around £70 million comes into the EFL from Sky TV.


ASFC and other L2 clubs get 8% of this money.

As a proud member of the EFL we ( as every other club) take the monies we're given therefore we all have to accept there will be requirements for this cash.

agree up to a point MR T as all clubs need the money, but it does seem that this is the be all and end all in the game at the moment. football survived before sky came on board and would certainly survive without it. would it survive without fans. i really doubt it. just something else too anoye fans of all lower league sides who for the most couldn,t care less about the premier league big shots.

Inspector Morse 19-01-2017 08:45

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'I'll look up the exact figures but around £70 million comes into the EFL from Sky TV.
ASFC and other L2 clubs get 8% of this money.'



£23K- is that all we get from the EFL?

Lord Stiffupperlip 19-01-2017 09:28

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Originally Posted by Inspector Morse (Post 1185768)
'I'll look up the exact figures but around £70 million comes into the EFL from Sky TV.
ASFC and other L2 clubs get 8% of this money.'

£23K- is that all we get from the EFL?

It's funny how for all but the last day of the season, Sky Sport completely ignore league 2.
Their raison d'etre is live Premier League football for pseudo football fans, or as Exile aptly calls them - 'couch potatoes with a remote'.
The pittance that drips down to the lower leagues are breadcrumbs to give an appearance that they 'care' about the game.
The fact that it's the league 2 fans who are facing the biggest inconvenience proves that we're at the bottom of their priorities.
:mad:

cashman 19-01-2017 09:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip (Post 1185773)
It's funny how for all but the last day of the season, Sky Sport completely ignore league 2.
Their raison d'etre is live Premier League football for pseudo football fans, or as Exile aptly calls them - 'couch potatoes with a remote'.
The pittance that drips down to the lower leagues are breadcrumbs to give an appearance that they 'care' about the game.
The fact that it's the league 2 fans who are facing the biggest inconvenience proves that we're at the bottom of their priorities.
:mad:

Aye but MrT says "Proud Member" of this useless lot.:rolleyes:

MikeA 19-01-2017 19:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Inspector Morse (Post 1185768)
£23K- is that all we get from the EFL?

Not £233K?

cashman 19-01-2017 19:24

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Whatever it is, no price is worth selling yer soul for.;)

deeayess 19-01-2017 20:36

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1185801)
Whatever it is, no price is worth selling yer soul for.;)

While I would agree with you, I doubt the money men at clubs agree.

Take the Accy example, TV money of £233,333 per season is just over £10,000 per home game based on 23 home games compared to in the region of £20,000 per game based on a crowd of 1700 paying from £20 down to £5. This shows that at our level the fans are important but so is TV money to a lesser extent.

However last time Burnley were in the Premiership they made a net profit of 40 million euros or roughly £35m. If we assume a crowd of 20,000 paying £30 each is £600,000 x 19 home games = £11.4m. So even if no fans went they would still have a net profit over £20m.

I know there are other things to factor in such as profit from merchandise and catering but it shows the total imbalance in football and how the higher up you go the less fans matter to the money men.

Lord Didsbury 19-01-2017 20:42

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Still none the wiser.
I'm happy to go to a 7:45 KO, happy to go to a 3pm KO..... I even remember watching England v Brazil in a pub at 9am many moons ago.
What's the beef with 5:30pm?

Exile on Spencer St 19-01-2017 20:45

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The beef is having to be in Stevenage at all.

Lord Didsbury 19-01-2017 20:49

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PS, I hope none of the people who complain about scheduling have, or have ever had, Sky TV (or equivalent).

AccyMad 19-01-2017 20:54

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I think Lord D that 'the beef' is that Sky can dictate times when games are to be played & be hanged to any inconvenience to fans, just my opinion of course

deeayess 19-01-2017 21:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury (Post 1185809)
PS, I hope none of the people who complain about scheduling have, or have ever had, Sky TV (or equivalent).

If every Accy fan that had Sky Sports cancelled it or didn't have it in the first place it would mean the square root of hee haw to Sky. There target audience are armchair fans watching the premiership.

Plus most tech savvy people can get live football by other means anyway without paying Sky TV or equivalent :D

winstanley asfc 20-01-2017 00:50

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Let's not write the 5pm Satanage game off just yet! We could be going there needing points for league survival. How ironic would that be after last season's final game?:(

st06nc2 20-01-2017 08:28

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This decision means that Newport county and Newport dragons rugby team kick off at the same time at the same ground

monkey hanger 20-01-2017 08:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury (Post 1185809)
PS, I hope none of the people who complain about scheduling have, or have ever had, Sky TV (or equivalent).

used to have it but got rid years ago mainly due to them attempting to run football. if i can,t get to live football due to age or infermity i,ll just not bother.

Chewbacca 20-01-2017 10:04

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If it is a dead game how many of the 40 fans going will it put off?

How many complained when games where put back to 3pm after getting floodlights etc? No it is seen as a traditional time, but it never was.

5.30pm isn't that bad, it would have been better at home, though as it is only really the away fans it affects badly. Having League 2 live on tv may bring more interest to league 2.

Lord Didsbury 20-01-2017 10:41

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I've never had Sky, apart from paying to watch one match a few weeks ago.
Fair enough that 1,300 Accy fans make little difference, but if you have ever bought it then you have still sold your soul to the devil and must put up with the consequences.
I'm fairly ambivalent about the effects of Sky TV after a couple of decades of being completely outraged by it. There are, I grudgingly admit, a lot of positives from it.

Lord Stiffupperlip 20-01-2017 11:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewbacca (Post 1185847)
Having League 2 live on tv may bring more interest to league 2.

If you believe that, you'll believe anything.
We all know football's sold its soul to the TV companies years ago.
Yes, it does bring some benefits to lower league teams, mainly in FA cup games when there's the possibility of a 'David v Goliath' match.
I can understand that clubs must toe the line and accept the status quo, they can't be seen to bite the hand that feeds them.
However, the real problem is there's too much football on TV, not too little.
To the extent that watching Premiership games from the lower reaches, Swansea, Sunderland, Hull, Watford etc. have become one big yawn.

Chewbacca 20-01-2017 12:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip (Post 1185852)
If you believe that, you'll believe anything.
We all know football's sold its soul to the TV companies years ago.
Yes, it does bring some benefits to lower league teams, mainly in FA cup games when there's the possibility of a 'David v Goliath' match.
I can understand that clubs must toe the line and accept the status quo, they can't be seen to bite the hand that feeds them.
However, the real problem is there's too much football on TV, not too little.
To the extent that watching Premiership games from the lower reaches, Swansea, Sunderland, Hull, Watford etc. have become one big yawn.

It did the opposite taking cricket of main stream tv in 2005.

Stanley fans were proud to be on telly in the last promotion year, "we won it on sky etc" and were glad of the attention as crowds boomed.

Fact based, not the opinion of a moaner :)

Exile on Spencer St 20-01-2017 12:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1185840)
This decision means that Newport county and Newport dragons rugby team kick off at the same time at the same ground

This will be the most interesting battle on May 6th.
Newport Dragons are scheduled to play Cardiff Blues at 17:15 in the final games of the ProGuiness league. All games to kick off at the same time.
As it was, having Newport County scheduled for a 3 pm on the same day was problematic enough.
Now they are playing at the same time!
Could make for an interesting game of two refs, four line judges, 26 a side, three points for a screamer over the bar...

Revived Red 21-01-2017 11:45

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Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1185867)
three points for a screamer over the bar...

Has McCartan been transferred to Newport?? ;)

Revived Red 21-01-2017 15:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1185966)
Has McCartan been transferred to Newport?? ;)

I take it all back!!!!

st06nc2 24-01-2017 14:56

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Both teams have been told by league bosses they are not allowed to change match date or kick off time so should be an entertaining match

choirboy 24-01-2017 20:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1185840)
This decision means that Newport county and Newport dragons rugby team kick off at the same time at the same ground

Well I really hope that SKY choose to cover this match!:130:
It should be a real spectacle.:tongueout
I reckon that Newport...(ie either of the Newports!)....should sign on Akinfenwa as he would really be at home playing under the 'Duel Rules' on offer!
:hehetable

Revived Red 25-01-2017 08:20

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Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1186261)
playing under the 'Duel Rules' on offer!:hehetable

Sword fighting too - it certainly should be entertaining.

monkey hanger 25-01-2017 08:47

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knowing westley he,ll have some nasty evil plan up his sleave if they need the points.


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