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Now that Jonno has gone to the dark side, any suggestions as to who will fill his place?

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I would try the new lad in training and take it from there.

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Clare looked ok at Middlesbrough...

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Let's think...who've we got who plays on the wing and only uses his right foot...? :rolleyes:

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I'd put lacey or Hewitt there give them a chance to prove themselves abit

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Thats one i failed to remember age lol, worth checking out also.

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Erm - Jordan Clark ?

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Agree, but Clark has done well on the left wing. Not sure if he's a natural leftie, or ambi-footed (:confused:), but he's been the most effective left winger we've had this season.

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agree but i dont know either if he could play right wing, i prefer clark on left wing, but seems the magnificent one dont.:rolleyes:

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Correct me if I'm wrong but we now have an even stronger defence with Harvey having joined, potentially more of an attacking midfield. Just need Kee to rediscover his form of last season and that Hull lad to do the business and we could be in for a late surge into the promotion places.

I'm feeling so optimistic. We are, I feel, on the verge of invincibility.

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Some of us are on the verge of inebriation.:rolleyes:

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Wild Bill's IPA from Aldi. £1.19 a bottle.
Absolute bargain.

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Beer old boy?
BEER????
Champagne Grand Cru from Lidl...... only £14.99

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I can't understand why Clark hasn't been starting. Got a nervous feeling that will continue but in my humble opinion that's the wrong call.

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Where has jonno gone?

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loan spell ended on the 7th Jan.

BRFC terminated his contract with them and he's signed for Carlisle on an 18th month deal.

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billy kee needs help up front. he,s needed it all season but some just can,t see it. only 2 other clubs in the football league have scored less than us i think.

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The best help we can give Billy Kee is to put some accurate crosses into the penalty box, instead of passing him the ball when he's surrounded by defenders on the halfway line.
Keep Clark on the left & put the boy wonder on the right wing with instructions to stay there, so the defence always have the option to clear down the wings, which are usually wide open spaces.
McConville seems to think he can adopt any position he likes, popping up in the centre, or even the opposite side of the field.
Disappointed we couldn't hang on to Jonno, but I suppose Carlisle were able to offer more attractive terms.

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How do you know he hasn't been instructed to switch and move around?

Many wingers these days switch wings and move around as every man has a player to mark but if their RB is marking Sean and Sean is on the other wing, who's marking who?

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Who knows what instructions he receives?
All I know is he rarely seems to be in the right place at the right time.
I'm no expert, but I know most teams play their own system. I can't think of any other player who appears to have the freedom to go where he wants.
On Saturday we gave Boro the freedom of the wings, but rarely used the space ourselves when the opportunity arose.

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Gary Roberts, Bobby Grant and Josh Windass used to "appear to have the freedom to go where they want"...It's tactics, gone or the 4-4-2 days where wingers had to hog their own touchline!

Also, Are you insinuating Sean is ignoring every insctruction given to him by Coley and Jimmy?

Absolute nonsense!

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The four musketeers...Roberts, Grant, Windass, and....McConville! :rolleyes:

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I'm not insinuating anything of the sort & I'm the first to praise him when it's justified.
My opinion is based purely on what I see occur in each game.
The title of this thread is 'Right Winger' and all I'm suggesting is that Sean would be more effectively used down the right wing, providing crosses into the box for Billy Kee.
I want to see him running into space on the wing to give our defence options for a killer pass.
I respect your opinion, but his contribution against Boro last Saturday was insignificant.
That had less to do with his ability (which he has) and more to do with his positional sense, or lack of it.

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So the cincensus is Clark in the left and McConville on the right. Hope you're right .......

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I would like to see Donacien play right wing further up with the new lads we can play a wider game and stretch teams more than we have been doing. It looks promising.

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Husin can play anywhere in midfield so he'll probably be put there

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In place of who ?

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Aaron Davies will probably lose his place again although based on his last two performances he doesn't deserve to, thought he played well against both Carlisle & Middlesbrough

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We have the players, We just can't seem to get the mixture right. we have all said the same about the way we play. Yet nothing seems to change. communication is still a big problem within the team. Every home game I have seen for the last few seasons are the same. Piero, Jon O sullivan, were out on their own and had to go way out of position to get the ball. How often do you see a long wide pass to the wingers. This is down to not having a strong experienced centre midfielder who can hold the ball up or spread the play as needed. we now have the players who have shown they can do this. it is time for a big change in tactics as we have become to easy to neutralise. But I will be there tomorrow to watch us take three points from a struggling Nottingham side, Coley has called it right when he said both teams should be battling at the top of the league. but that is football.

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'This is down to not having a strong experienced centre midfielder who can hold the ball up or spread the play as needed. we now have the players who have shown they can do this.'

Who do you mean?

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I was thinking the same - who is this midfield maestro ?

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Can't believe Sean is still debated so much. Outside of the back four he has arguably been our best and most consistent player this season.

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thats why we,re in a relagation scrap.

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I suspect a bit of selective memory here, Chrisr, especially relating to Piero. His link play with Brad Halliday on the right wing was excellent. As the season progressed, Halliday had the confidence to overlap more and more and the crosses came from him as well as Piero.

Very rarely. Because our players, like most in League 2, do not have the skills of Jordan Henderson, Cesc Fabregas, Yaya Toure etc. The sort of pass you seem to favour has only a limited chance of success at our level; more often than not we would be giving the ball to the opposition either directly or via a throw-in.

What continues to mystify me is the bunching at one side or the other when a goal kick is being taken. If the keeper takes it from the left side of the goal area, there are usually 20 players in a confined area to the left side of the pitch. I cannot understand why a right winger does not stay out wide right. This is not just about Stanley - all teams seem to do it. Perhaps someone with a coaching badge could explain. ;)

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.......This sounds a bit like the title of an early Sixties 'One hit' chart topper by an out of work singer trying to break into the big time!:Banane08:

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I think the selective memory is on your side RR if you watched Donacien with the centre midfielders we had on loan we were spreading the game wide. Donacien put several top quality balls into the box. I said he would be better played out on the right up front. I think I was right on that one. Piero did link up with Brad Halliday while he was here for a while. I was accused of saying Edwards was a fast player when people have suggested I hadn't seen him, I think I got that one right as well. As for the type of crosses I suggested did have the desired effect against a strong Notts County side. You have contradicted yourself when you said they keep bunching on the left. You then asked why we did not have a right winger out wide right. Err we did, piero and latterly Jon o'Sullivan it was common talk on our side that the players on the left side never looked up and made the wide pass we were making yesterday. You can't have it always. Yesterday's tactical play changes by players on loan from a higher level showed us the way. We have all been saying it long enough. I hope Coley continues and learns from this win. It was deserved. I think Billy kee was shell shocked for a while at the amount of decent quality balls he was served with. If this continues he will be banging the goals in again quickly. The next few weeks look promising and I hope if all goes well we can keep a few of the loan signings.

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RR, you're not the only one who's noticed that, but it's been going on for some time.
It used to amuse me watching little kids' games on Highams' where all 20 outfield players would run around the pitch like a swarm of bees, with the ball in the middle, never being kicked more than five yards. That was because those tots couldn't kick the ball further than five yards.
But why it always happens in the professional game is a puzzle. Maybe the fact you note that teams like Chelsea do it is the reason they all do it?
I've often thought that, if a team practiced it, the keeper could slice or shank his kick into the empty space in the opposite side of the pitch and the corresponding winger would know to run into that space, leaving his defender still in the wrong half of the pitch.

There's a similar puzzle with defending corners. If all 11 players defend, the attackers will leave one player on the half way line, giving the defenders a numerical advantage in their penalty area of 2. But if the defenders leave one forward on the half-way line, the team taking the corner will mark him with two players. Giving the defenders a numerical advantage of....2. Leave two on the half-way line and there'll be at least three of the 'attacking' team kept back to mark them. Leaving those defending the corner with a numerical advantage of....2.

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There's a similar puzzle with defending corners. If all 11 players defend, the attackers will leave one player on the half way line, giving the defenders a numerical advantage in their penalty area of 2. But if the defenders leave one forward on the half-way line, the team taking the corner will mark him with two players. Giving the defenders a numerical advantage of....2. Leave two on the half-way line and there'll be at least three of the 'attacking' team kept back to mark them. Leaving those defending the corner with a numerical advantage of....2.[/QUOTE]

totally agree exile. can,t see the point of getting everyone back especially the ones that can,t defend, seen a couple of times in the last 12 months where non defending players have got in the way of a defender and caused an opposition goal.

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totally agree exile. can,t see the point of getting everyone back especially the ones that can,t defend, seen a couple of times in the last 12 months where non defending players have got in the way of a defender and caused an opposition goal.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm....
I'm thinking silly now.....:130:
When we are defending a corner then we should put nine or even all ten of our outfield players up on the half way line so our opponents will have to pull all of their players back too! When our keeper catches the ball, (hopefully!) from the corner unchallenged we will be back in possession and we will never ever concede a goal from a corner again!:hehetable
.....Simples:joint:

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Eeeeeh....
...funny in'tit...
When I were a lad I often played as a 'Right Winger' but now that I am officially an 'Owd Codger', (......turned 65 last Friday):eek:........like a lot of us posters on 'ere, I think that I have just become another "RIGHT WHINGER!":cake:

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Whilst we've drifted onto corners and defending/attacking them, a few years back I went to watch Stanley Youth squad play at Reading. The latter were, to a man (and man, rather than boy, was more apt for their team) about a foot taller and two stones heavier than the lads in red.
Stanley won a corner and, rather than do the usual, the entire Stanley attack lined up outside the penalty area. This left the big Reading defenders standing on their own in the six yard box, somewhat confused as to how to mark someone who wasn't there.
As the corner came in, the Stanley lads charged like the Light Brigade into the valley of death. Unfortunately, on this occasion, they too lost out to the big guns of the defenders. But I thought it was a brilliant bit of improvisation to nullify the opposition's physical superiority.

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I accept I may have misquoted you. It was down to the bunching on one side. The Goal kicking needs a bit more practice as does his distribution. There has been some fair observations on our game play for a while. But there are genuine options available to us. It is up to the Management to up their game to the standards the loan players have brought. It is obvious they play with a lot more confidence and knowledge. Like many on here I could never understand having 11 men defending as once the ball is kicked out there is only one place it is going back to. Anyway it looked good, Portsmouth will be a good challenge, 3 points from them and we will be on our way.

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Stanley won a corner and, rather than do the usual, the entire Stanley attack lined up outside the penalty area. This left the big Reading defenders standing on their own in the six yard box, somewhat confused as to how to mark someone who wasn't there.
As the corner came in, the Stanley lads charged like the Light Brigade into the valley of death. Unfortunately, on this occasion, they too lost out to the big guns of the defenders. But I thought it was a brilliant bit of improvisation to nullify the opposition's physical superiority.[/QUOTE]

saw the same thing myself years ago. it was vs rugby v leyton orient in a fa cup game. the rugby side did the same thing and scored through it as you said the opposition didn,t know how to cope with it. everything now is all much of a muchness. if one top side do it all the rest follow. remember england winning the world cup without wingers and quickly football league sides copied it.

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Think the question get answered last night.