Andy Holt
 

Andy Holt is on the hawksbee and Jacobs show on talksport at some point between 1-4pm.

If you miss it, he will be on the show podcast which comes out around 7pm

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Also making headlines on the Beeb's football website about how the excessive spending of the Premier League is killing the game in the EFL.

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Premier league have responded and have basically told mr holt to shut up complaining or the money stops

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Premier League to write to Accrington Stanley chairman after criticism - BBC Sport

Link above to the BBC article by Andy Holt.
Would appear nobody involved in the game is allowed to criticise the high & mighty Premier League.
To put things in perspective, the 'solidarity' payments to each League 2 club each season is not much more than Man U pay Zlatan Ibrahimovic - PER WEEK!

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He is 25 years too late, and a hypocrite after loaning Premier League players, supporting Trump and being against worlds women's day.

That is capitalism.

He sold out the fans breaking the club charter for the Burnley game he managed not to sell out. Happy to make money out of a Premier League club then.

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Each League 2 club gets £430,000 per season. Pittance compared the mega rich teams of the Premier League. I say good on yer Mr Holt, do not let the bully boys beat you. Other League 2 chairman should join in this debate and support Andy.

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#BoycottPremiership #BoycottSkyBT time fans of efl clubs stood up and took a stand against the money grabbing toss bags

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You really are a clown, supporting Trump and against world womens day is sod all to do with how the league treats the lower clubs,:rolleyes: just remind us all when was the last world mens day?:rolleyes:

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The unfortunate thing about it is the big clubs in the EFL won't because they want to be part of it and the little clubs probably wouldn't be missed by the"Big Boys" anyway so no great threat. Take Stanley for example, how many people would care if we went out of business? Not many given our crowds and that would apply to many others.

It's not just the EFL that's affected, it's most leagues in Europe outwith the Big 5 with all the coverage and money. But realistically what can be done because there is no sign of it coming to an end.

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Only a sexist fool would come out with something like that.

The big guy treats the small guy like **** throughout capitalist society, you can't support it in some circumstances and not in others.

It was millionaire chairman who started the mess, and now it is the billionaires turn. A chairman throwing his toys out of the pram after 25 years like he has just woke up and realised is puzzling.

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Nothing goes on forever, even in football (ask fans of Blackpool, Charlton, Coventry, Rovers, and that former 'big' club from Glasgow).
The PL is basically funded by TV. And the media moguls will go where they can get a bigger and bigger audience.
At the moment, they are happy to sell a product that happens to be based in England but, in terms of personalities, is global.
But maybe the 'fans' amongst China's 1.3 billion (and/or a similar number in India) will soon want to watch something that means something more to them. At the moment it's the global stars at the ends of their careers who are heading out east. But pretty soon it'll be the first choice for agents and their human assets.
The global corporate boys will follow the money and Mancunians may have to resign themselves to having to pay to watch 'their' team on a screen playing in China / India / America.

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It's called freedom of speech didn't think we lived in a communist society

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Exactly, that is why the rich get richer.

You can't have communism in football (share out resources equally) but capitalism in the whole society apart from it, not without killing the game with a sterile franchise system.

It is ironic if petty bourgeoisie are anti capitalism in football.

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It's heartening to see that Andy Holts response to the Premier League is closer to "Bring it, sunshine" than "We're very sorry." Good to see a chairman standing up for what's right

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None of those clubs you mention were ever big clubs they just hung on to the coat tails for their 15 minutes of fame. And the Big Club from Glasgow shows exactly what happens when you let "dodgy" owners loose on a club. Neither "Big" clubs from Glasgow are likely to do much because like many of the Big Clubs in Europe outwith the big 5, they no longer compete on ability as clubs in the big leagues buy up all the players whether they need them or not.

We have been saying for years the big money will end but there is no sign of it and the aged players ending their careers abroad was tried in the US in the late 70s and it is still getting nowhere. The same will happen to the game in India and China and the EPL will keep rolling on because the hype will keep going world wide.

We might even get to the stage where all EPL games are shown live including on a Saturday as happens abroad and that will hit EFL gates as well. We can kid ourselves on that it will end sometime and equality will be restored to football but I doubt it will be in our lifetime. If anything it might evolve into a European League and take the money with it and we can say they should get on with it as people will lose interest but it's not the people who go to games they care about, it's the armchair fans and the sponsors.

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We all know that real power in football today is in the hands of Sky & other big media interests, not the EPL or EFL.
He who pays the piper calls the tune!
Match times are dictated to suit TV schedules & beggar the inconvenience for fans.
Who decided that the last games in league 2 should kick off at 5.30pm?
Or that the final Championship matches should be mid-day on Sunday?
Was it some suit from the FA, or was it perhaps a TV executive?
The football authorities are in the pockets of the TV companies.
They pay lip service to football via the so-called 'solidarity payment', but they're scraps compared to the millions being generated.
It doesn't matter to those armchair fans watching live Premier League games that they can't pronounce half the names of the players they're watching, or that the manager needs an interpreter for a post-match interview.
What matters is that they keep paying for their Sky armchair 'season ticket'.
Andy Holt is right! League 2 clubs have to rely almost entirely for revenue from their gate receipts, whereas EPL clubs are handed money on a plate.
The top of the tree is in full bloom, but the roots are being starved.
One day it will come crashing down.
I know what I'd do with their letter Andy - somebody turn the shredder on!

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Listened to the show, no Andy holt, not even on pods at so don't know where you got this info from

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If it makes you happy,proving what i said you are,thats fine with me.:rolleyes:

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The minnows bite back!
Article in today's copy of the Daily Mail on this.
Right next to the investigation into the Pogba corruption story - very apt!

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More money to EFL only lead to more money to players and agents.
Rather see it spent on grass roots football/infrastructure.

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Bang on.

If club in the league received a larger cut all it does is inflate wages & transfer fees. Look at what happened in the Premier League with the new tv deal.

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It's an old chestnut is the debate on money in football. I find myself agreeing with every point of view....

Andy Holt is correct - money is not shared fairly if you are a smaller club and if it wasn't for the smaller clubs there would be no big clubs.
The PL are correct - if it wasn't for the commercial success (and by gum has it been a success) of the big clubs there would be no money to share.
Chewbacca is right - the argument is 25 years too late and that Andy H, as a well off business man, should know that market forces dictate the spoils largely go to the victors (unless he pays his staff the same as he takes)
Others are right that football should not be a business
and so it goes on..... we all have different views on how we'd like football to be

It's the way the wind blows I'm afraid. No one has a master plan for where the game is going, no one to blame for how its evolved. there is truth and hypocrisy in everything we say.

You need these occasional broadsides from the likes of Andy though. If more money is never asked for then it sure as hell won't be forthcoming.

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No publicity is bad publicity!!!,well done Mr Holt ,got us in papers,radio and TV !!!

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Alot of fans from other clubs coming out in support of Andy, obviously the prem fans are disagreeing but even other chairmans are coming out and agreeing with him, he is showing little old accy are no longer a walkover, we're going to fight for what we believe in

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There you go, criticize the pl for wasting money and pl threaten to take away what you already receive, if this situation came up at work place I think it would probably result in the case being taken to an employment tribunal. I agree with Andy arrogant bullying tactics from the pl

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He was on between 3 and 3.30pm

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I heard it. Even called in this morning as they were still going on about it.

Good for you Andy. We should be mighty proud that we have a chairman who is willing to gob off at the inequalities in football.

Most Chairmen sit meekly in their offices and hold their plates out ready for the scraps to fall down - without them their clubs would crash and burn.

I cancelled Sky Sports immediately upon reading the PL response to Andy

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He isn't on any of them I've listened

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Just seen him on BBC1 News :D

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Its only a 41 minute segment of a 4 hour show :(

I thought he came across well in the interview but I had rxpected him to be in for a rough ride. The general feeling is a sympathetic one although nobody expects anything to change.

Ive a feeling this is going to run and run, and unfortunately there can only be one winner

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Didn't catch it all but they were blathering about the issue on Radio 5 Live just now.
The PL seem to assume that Andy Holt is demanding more money. But could his point be that, by constantly ramping up player wages, transfer fees, payments to agents, etc, etc, the knock on financial effect is crippling those outside the PL.
It's inevitable that some clubs will be wealthier than others, but that do the likes of MUFC etc need to inflate the cost of the entire game to stratospheric levels? (Bit like the cost of Mayfair houses knocking on the costs across London, then that inflating house prices across the country)
Is it because the big clubs are not clubs, as fans understand the term, that it's in their corporate financial interest to inflate the 'value' of their assets? So constantly upping the stakes is to their global business advantage.
Having said that, the PL has actually done well to distribute the TV money amongst all 20 of its current members. If it hadn't, by now there might have been a Global Premiership with franchised teams playing around the world with tourists for crowds and 'fans' paying to view online.
Heh ho, 'twas ever thus. 55 years ago it was a pittance (was it £65K?) that sank Stanley.

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We've a playing budget of 900k next year as announced by Andy holy, thats 400k more than usual

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At some point the fans, or the sky paying customers, will turn on them - when that happens there'll be holy hell paid with the medium to big clubs bleating for government handouts. Itv Digital flopping will be nothing compared to The Sky caving in

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Fans of the big clubs won't though and fans of the smaller clubs won't matter. I cancelled Skysports over 10 years ago and have never had BT sport and it's made no difference. Pubs pay silly money for it or people go elsewhere and people worldwide will always want to watch the big clubs due to the hype in the same way as people here also watch Barca or Real or Bayern to a lesser extent.

ITV digital flopped because they paid too much for Football League games that people didn't want to watch and those clubs suffered but it had no real effect on the Premiership.

We can wish the EPL to flop because we aren't part of it but that doesn't mean it will happen more's the pity. It's more likely that they will tell the EFL to sod off and that is where it will be a real cave in.

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With all the foreign players the EPL bring in, the EFL is the future or the national team, thus deserve more funding, without the lower league teams England wouldn't have players like vardy and smalling, even Joe hart started at Shrewsbury, we provide the future stars and we need more money to improve facilities and produce better stars

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Spot on St0zie!
Some Premiership teams barely feature a natural born Brit in their squad.
The idea of the PL was to allow the big city clubs to get even richer.
Without doubt it's been successful due to TV money, but most of the wealth generated has gone to pay for foreign players earning obscene wages.
Even the managers are now largely foreign.
Then so called football pundits moan about the lack of quality English born players & managers available to the national squad.
The PL seem to feel they are somehow divorced from the rest of the EFL, but football is still pyramid based with every league cherry-picking the best players, usually from a lower league.
League 2, and indeed even the Conference, are just as important to the welfare of English football as the PL.
Andy Holt has invested his own money keeping ASFC afloat. Why is his opinion any less important than say Jose Mourinho?

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Andy's figure of £900k will be accurate as he's working with the figures.

The quote of £400k more than usual is totally incorrect!

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not sure who Andy holy is, should it read Holy Andy

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Sure this season he came out and said we was on a budget of half a million

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That was for the new pies. :rolleyes: