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Bob Dobson 09-08-2017 20:25

Checkatrade Trophy -v-Blackpool
 
My lad has bet me that, when Blackpool come to the Wham on 3rd October in the Checkatrade Trophy, the gate will be less than 1000. He initially estimated 300. In an effort to win his tenner, I am bringing 4 mates over. I urge you to help me - make a note in your diary now. By then, the outcome of the Oyston -v-Belokon court case may be known. I think there will be a good contingent of 'Pool supporters - they will be prepared to come over even though they will not enter Bloomfield Rd whilst Oystons are in charge.

AccyMad 09-08-2017 21:25

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Unfortunately, your son might be right Bob - quite a lot of fans don't agree with the new format for this competition & the gates last season weren't the best if I remember rightly

monkey hanger 10-08-2017 09:41

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didn,t go to any chechatrade games last season. used to attend em regularly before this u23 rubbish came in. if we have a chance to qualify to the next stage i,ll go to the snake game though.

Bob Dobson 10-08-2017 09:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1199186)
didn,t go to any chechatrade games last season. used to attend em regularly before this u23 rubbish came in. if we have a chance to qualify to the next stage i,ll go to the snake game though.

I've not hear
d the term 'snake game' before. Is it what a PNE supporter would call a game against 'the donkey lashers', ie Blackpool ?

AccyMad 10-08-2017 10:24

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No Bob, it's the Wigan game - Paul Cook aka 'The Snake' now manager of Wigan

DAV007 10-08-2017 16:51

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any further information about Oystons court case?

nowandzen 27-08-2017 10:44

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This competition normalises big clubs having more than one team. It's the thin end of a wedge that could force small clubs like ASFC out of the League altogether. Supporting the games implies acceptance of this long-held policy of EFL. Boycotting it shows we are implacably opposed to the idea.


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cashman 27-08-2017 11:01

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That is one tournament i would NOT go too if it was free, i am Vehemently opposed to it.i did used to go to em until the under 23 rubbish was introduced.:(

Bob Dobson 27-08-2017 12:56

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Nothing heard on the Oyston saga - The result is to be announced in October. Belokon has resigned his position on the board of the club. I am getting the drift about this half-baked competition.

accybeme 27-08-2017 17:15

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1200423)
That is one tournament i would NOT go too if it was free, i am Vehemently opposed to it.i did used to go to em until the under 23 rubbish was introduced.:(

I completely agree with you cashy : unfortunately when family members want to go I feel obligated to attend

cashman 27-08-2017 17:42

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Originally Posted by accybeme (Post 1200440)
I completely agree with you cashy : unfortunately when family members want to go I feel obligated to attend

I;m glad mine dont live local or even i may have been compelled to go.:eek:plus they aint football fans so safe as houses.:D

AccyMad 27-08-2017 19:02

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I'm afraid that once again this season I won't be attending any of the Checkatrade trophy games which is a shame as the club are really trying to attract fans to them with the low admission prices but to me the cheap tickets reflect how the competition has been cheapened by the EFL.
I'll very likely spend more than the equivalent to a ticket price at the club in other ways, extra 50/50 draw tickets or suchlike but I won't be at any of the games

monkey hanger 28-08-2017 08:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1200443)
I'm afraid that once again this season I won't be attending any of the Checkatrade trophy games which is a shame as the club are really trying to attract fans to them with the low admission prices but to me the cheap tickets reflect how the competition has been cheapened by the EFL.
I'll very likely spend more than the equivalent to a ticket price at the club in other ways, extra 50/50 draw tickets or suchlike but I won't be at any of the games

did the same last season. attendance means you are in agreement with the new format non appearance means you are against it. used to turn up to these games as it really does give the club the chance to play at wembley which might wake the locals up but again the sweet FA have knackered it up for me.

Chewbacca 28-08-2017 19:19

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With the Oyston protest and the upset Stanley fan protest, guess the attendance will be like a Dutch auction without the bulbs.

maccawozzagod 29-08-2017 17:34

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I'm torn whether to go or not. Monkey Hangar is right that attendance would suggest that people arent bothered about the format BUT I really want to reward Andy's gesture regards the pricing.

This competition is a real chance of Wembley, pays half decent prize money for winnable games, and is a big opportunity to get the kids in.

If I go I'll be using it is an excuse to get the lad to bring a mate or two

Alvin the chipmunk 29-08-2017 19:30

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I will be in attendance for the Blackpool game as they are a "real" side but probably will think twice about Boro Reserves as I abhor the principle of our first team being made to play first team fixtures against reserves.

Will also do Wigan for the sake of ticking off the ground.

Such a shame it has come to this. Had some cracking days in this competition. 4-4 at home to Blackpool, Oldham and Leeds away and beating Bradford of League 1 when still a Conference club.

Just glad Rovers aren't in our group. Was certain they would be but want to save our first reformed meeting for a league, league cup or FA Cup encounter.

Bob Dobson 30-08-2017 06:44

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Having heard the differing viewpoints, I am coming down in favour of supporting our management. The Blackpool boycott is a totally different situation.

Chrisr 31-08-2017 12:28

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Sadly it is a catch 22, one half wants to support the club and Andy for his investment but by doing that you are also encouraging the fools at the FA into thinking you are in agreement with the set up. I am with Cashy on this one but we all should do the same thing. We know our little club needs the money so we could buy the equivalent in merchandise so the club does not lose out. The FA are the real problem. Just think if they top sliced 10% off the total transfer fees paid each season and gave each lower league an equal share of the money, The game and small clubs could actually progress from the grass roots up. Greed of the FA is winning by a country mile.

maccawozzagod 31-08-2017 12:38

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Sod it, my minds made up now - I'm going and I'm going to try to get a few kids along too.

Stanley dont deserve to play in front of 300 people and Andy doesnt deserve to make a loss on a crap gate. We've a chance of Wembley in this tournament and I hope Coley goes for it

accybeme 31-08-2017 12:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1200630)
Sod it, my minds made up now - I'm going and I'm going to try to get a few kids along too.

Stanley dont deserve to play in front of 300 people and Andy doesnt deserve to make a loss on a crap gate. We've a chance of Wembley in this tournament and I hope Coley goes for it

could you expand on your decision to go.
like you I will be going but I will be going because family members are going, but I strongly disagree with the format and think that when the five division format is introduced it will be to the detriment of small clubs like ours

DAV007 31-08-2017 13:07

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As a fan of the new format, I won't be going for other reasons but I hope Stanley can go on and win it

Bob Dobson 31-08-2017 19:49

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There must be some way of getting the message overt to the FA without boycotting - and getting it over to Checkatrade too. It surely can't be long befor5e the public realise what a sham Checkatrade is.

Lord Stiffupperlip 31-08-2017 21:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1200630)
Stanley dont deserve to play in front of 300 people and Andy doesnt deserve to make a loss on a crap gate. We've a chance of Wembley in this tournament and I hope Coley goes for it

Well said Macca!
The legitimate concerns from fans that the introduction of the Premier League & Championship Academies would dilute the chances of the lower league teams proved to be false.
The facts from last years competition show that;
1. Of the 16 Academy teams which entered, 7 went out in the first group stage.
2. In round 2 - a further 4 were eliminated.
3. Only one - Swansea City Academy made the quarter final, losing to Coventry.
4. No Academy team even reached the semi-finals
5. Coventry beat Oxford(both league 1 teams) 2-1 in the Wembley final, in front of 74,434 fans.

Think I'll be joining you Macca!

Chimer 31-08-2017 22:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 1200669)
There must be some way of getting the message overt to the FA without boycotting - and getting it over to Checkatrade too. It surely can't be long befor5e the public realise what a sham Checkatrade is.

As a competition, it's no more a sham than the Premier League. It just isn't the competition it once was, i.e. one that gives the bottom two divisions a competition of their own with a Wembley final. But it's still a competition that does offer a route to Wembley, albeit with some Premier U-21 potholes in the way. I didn't like the change, but now it's happened I think we should go for it properly (though I have to admit I won't be travelling from Pompey for any Tuesday night games at this stage).

monkey hanger 01-09-2017 08:18

Re: Checkatrade Trophy -v-Blackpool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 1200669)
There must be some way of getting the message overt to the FA without boycotting - and getting it over to Checkatrade too. It surely can't be long befor5e the public realise what a sham Checkatrade is.

if you know another way of doing it without a boycott please let me know for at present the only thing a fan can do is boycott the games if you are not in favour of the present format. remember they wanted to bring in premier league B teams into an extra division a few years ago which was thrown out and then they came up with this checkatrade rubbish. if the gates had gone up for this competition they could have a re think of their former idea. don,t know stanleys official take on the competition but if they were against it i for one wish they hadn,t try to bribe fans into attending with the low admission cost.

Bob Dobson 02-09-2017 07:44

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It's not the competition I think a sham - it's the company. I think that a well-orchestrated campaign in the press and media would go some way to bringing to the League's and FA's notice that fans felt it a poor competition.

monkey hanger 03-09-2017 08:29

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think a lot of fan groups at clubs had a lot to say egainst the competition but only came up with a boycott of it. will never get much publicity though as there is too much for the media to spout about in the premier league to leave much time and space for owt else.

Chewbacca 03-09-2017 11:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1200794)
think a lot of fan groups at clubs had a lot to say egainst the competition but only came up with a boycott of it. will never get much publicity though as there is too much for the media to spout about in the premier league to leave much time and space for owt else.

Most fans boycotted the old format too, it was never very popular anyway.

ferret man 03-09-2017 13:03

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As this is not considered by a lot of supporters as a "proper" comp will it count as one of McLeod's 3match bans.

Lemur 03-09-2017 15:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ferret man (Post 1200807)
As this is not considered by a lot of supporters as a "proper" comp will it count as one of McLeod's 3match bans.


the blackpool game is eight games away he should be back for the chesterfield game

ferret man 03-09-2017 15:17

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Originally Posted by Lemur (Post 1200814)
the blackpool game is eight games away he should be back for the chesterfield game

Thanks for that, for some senior thought moment I was thinking it was sooner

Lost in Cornwall 04-09-2017 07:58

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And last year they changed the rules saying that this Mickey Mouse competition didn't count as first team games so I'm guessing the same applies this year and games in it won't count as part of bans.

monkey hanger 04-09-2017 09:55

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[QUOTE=Lost in Cornwall;1200842]And last year they changed the rules saying that this Mickey Mouse competition didn't count as first team games

that really sums up what they actually think of this competition.

MikeA 04-09-2017 18:50

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Last year it seemed to be a stand-alone competition when it came to discipline but the EFL website at https://www.efl.com/clubs-and-compet...--regulations/ now says
'The Competition is a ‘First Team Competitive Match’ for the purposes of the Football Associations Regulations for Disciplinary Procedures.'


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