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:) Stanley are waiting on the fitness of Tyler Forbes John Coleman has no other new injuries so his options are good should he feel the need to make any changes.
Simon Bloch Jorgensen started against Preston in the previous round and he could be in goal again, while the likes of Scott Brown and Jonathan Edwards could also come into the team. WBA manager Tony Pulis is set to make the changes has his team sit joint top with 2 wins out of 2 in the premiership, Pulis is without Hal Robson-Kanu red carded at Burnley last Saturday and injured Gareth McAuley (thigh). NewsNow: Loading story... Match Preview - Accrington vs W Brom | 22 Aug 2017I like this one Albion to find out who Accrington Stanley are for the first time | jonwant.com :)

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If anyone's following the match in the Midlands, there's live commentary on BBC WM on 95.6FM.

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can you get that in Nottingham?

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Dunno but I can get it 35 miles away from Brum.

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0-1 :(

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10 mins. 0-1 :(

Nige: Try this:
https://www.wba.co.uk/fixtures-resul...-on-22-aug-17/

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Should be 1-1 Edward's. Header

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0-2

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Instead it's 0-2:mad:

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0-2:(

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According to Beeb website, both goals "bottom left corner".
Someone's been watching Mr.Chapman.

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Cheers mate just picked this up don't think I've missed a deal!!

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It's about 90 seconds behind BBC local radio!

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Should've put Scooby Doo in the nets! :rolleyes:

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But WBA web site "it would be all over if not for the Stanley stopper"....oops, and now it is - 0-3

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Gate reported as 2699. Wish I could have been there just to make it round numbers.

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1-3! Dallison

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Met Mr.Dallison's dad at Yeovil and he said he'd never missed a match his son had played. If he maintained that record tonight really pleased that his son got a goal as he'll have a helluva drive home.

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Beaten by a better side Yes, Disgraced No, over all thought stanley aquitted themselves very well, a couple of our players not at the races first half, Dallison was one, but redeemed himself by scoring a good goal, team never gave up, the second goal was superboy, passing a freekick to West Brom,they came straight down and scored, have no idea why Mcloud dont get a start,defies logic to me.:confused: We are the ONLY team to score against WBA so far this season, so well done lads.:)

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Must add was a nice change to have competent officials in charge tonight.credit were its due.

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Well worth the admission fee tonight Tony Pullis put a very strong line up out tonight and their front 3 especially Rodriguez were pulling us all over good learning curve hopefully tonight for our lads. We never let our heads drop and with Chapman pulling off some excellent saves if we had been concentrating at the free kick it could have been a different game. Quick mention for McLeod was excellent when he came on deserves a start..

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Score a fair reflection of game. Baggies very slick on counter attack. We passed it nicely at times. Wba 2nd goal a giveaway. Wba could have scored more but Edwards had a decent headed chance and we could (perhaps should) have had a penalty for a foul on Jackson whilst shooting. As cashman alooded too mcloud came of the bench and made a tremendous impact with his direct running and shooting At the very least he showed to be a good impact sub. Still a loud and proud Stanley fan after tonight's display.

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They did their homework on us and neutralised our threats, We were a long way second best for most of the match, Until we made our subs we were easily beaten, we had two good efforts on goal. then with the subs McCloud frightened them to death. overall we should learn a lot about our weaknesses and our distribution. Chapman pulled of some stunning saves but he should have done better for the goals. Why have we got a better keeper on the bench? is he staying or going? As much as I want to support Chapman his lack of confidence seems to be affecting the back four. overall beaten but as cashy says not disgraced.

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Offensively we were decent but let down by some amateur defending time after time. Having said that they had a pretty awesome fast and powerful forward line. Their first goal looked like it was reasonably soft but their right winger made it with a clever flick give and go on the halfway line, perfect delivery and simple finish in the middle.

They one-two'd around Donacien for fun the entire 2nd half

Barry ran the midfield too and Nolan and Brown only got away with what he wanted them to get away.

Clark, Jackson, McConville had a lot of the ball and Clark in particular always looked lively.

Coleman was pleased with McLeod looking lively and said he some things to think over, although he was disappointed with him getting M.O.M as it was disrespectful to those that had put a shift in.

I dont think West Brom ever hit third gear tonight, but Edwards missing a sitter at 1-0 and the two stonewall penalties that weren't (and accompanying cards) could have changed the make up of the game.

It could have been 6 or 7, it could have been 3-3 - funny old game

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Sorry Cashy, I cannot agree with this point. These were Premiership referees and not to give 2 penalties and accompanying red cards is beyond me. I must agree with your other point though, we were not disgraced tonight and I thought well worth one goal if not more. Que Sera and all that. Is the ghost of Eric Whalley counting the numbers of spectators again? I though well over 3,000 on tonight. There must have been about 1200 + Baggies fans, the Clayton end was fullish as was the main stand. Must have been a load of freebies given out.

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Glad to see McLeod given a chance tonight, but mystified why it was at the expense of Jackson.
Mekhi showed more skill, speed & attacking intent in 20 minutes than McConville did in 93.
Seems crazy to sub our centre forward & main goal scoring threat, for the sake of keeping 2 left wingers on the field.
Especially when one of them made no contribution to the game at all.

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I don't know about that Lord S, he did pass the ball to the opposition to allow them to score the 2nd goal (but according to BBC Radio Lancs, Coleys taking the blame for that one!!!)

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Great game to watch , thaught all the lads worked there socks off an could not fault any players for effort , we look full of goals this season with there keeper making a couple of really good saves second half , first goal was poor marking , second goal was a mix up in communication with Donacian an mcconville an the 3rd looked like a good finish , not convinced with the keeper although he made a couple of good stops , an Clark looked like he was carrying an injury tonight , other than that a really proud Stanley fan tonight ! Roll on Friday and a win at Notts.

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Clark isn't injured. In fact I thought he put a great shift in and for me over 90 minutes was our best man. Maybe it's me but I find these MOM selections baffling. McCloud came on at a time when WBA were easing off. OK he looked lively but MOM ? Please .....
I've never entered the on going saga of Marmite man McConville - hero to some villain to others - but tonight our left side was ineffective. Add in the second goal and the poor set piece delivery ......
It's the cup and it's over. More concerned about Friday.

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Enjoyed the game as both teams provided a very open game.
Thought West Brom showed a lot of respect by playing a strong team and you could see the difference in pace and technique.
Thought Hughes played well and tried his best to keep them organised.
Definitely need a few more faces,but I am even more confident of doing well this season

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The free kick debacle for the second goal looked to me like it occurred due to the bench talking to thr intended recepiant who turned to them as they talked, WBA nipped in and the rest is history.

Amazing getting on McConvilles back after losing to a Premier League team, jeepers you guys have been biding your times.

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Coley said that as Donacien went to overlap Coley told him to stay as there was nobody back, meanwhile McConville played him the pass ...

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That could not be seen from where we stand, changes my opinion the was Colemans fault.

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I watched a good game of football last night !. Tony Pulls showed respect for our team by his selections...and what a pleasing sight to watch his dignified behaviour on the touchline as opposed to that of the despicable Evans and his enforcer on Saturday last !.

There was skill and understanding from the West Brom players and no end of skill and determination from the Reds, all controlled by officials who, for once, knew what their particular roles were, knew the rules, and were totally fair to both teams ! .. apart from the Ref missing an obvious penalty ( but then as you know, I can be a trifle biased at times !).

Plus , I spent time at the feet of my two favourite gurus,namely Valairian and F19.. and am now privy to all the secrets surrounding our club and its future !...of course I now am sworn to secrecy !... but as F19 whispered to me as we parted...'watch this space '. You know what ?, I do love a spot of intrigue !.

See you in Nottingham !,

ON STANLEY..ON TO EVEN GREATER THINGS !.

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Forget about the free kick my friend, what did you think of his performance over 93 minutes ?

Genuine question - I'm neither a lover or a hater.

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Similar to all the midfield and attack they struggled to get in to the game against players in a team going well in the biggest league in the world.

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Re McConville

Any thoughts as to how he would fare in a more central position?

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Twenty eight what did you make of clarks performance ? He looked ineffective an injured to me, never put 1 telling cross in all night , neither did he test there goalkeeper once , he worked hard yes as did they all! Agree with you on McLeod he come on seemingly when West Brom had the game won and had slowed down, still had a positive impact on the game an that's all you can ask for !! Any thoughts on chapman ??

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Now that Chapman has had a steady game McCoville can go back to being the whipping boy.

Bloody useless that lad. Only got more assists than anybody else in the top four divisions last year. Clark seems to me at least twice as ineffectual but gets none of the vitriol. Wonder why.

Just like that useless Coleman. Good job these great players keep randomly turning up on our doorstep without him doing any research or signings. Cant even beat £70 million of talent on gates of 1200. Get him out.

Three promotions, cup runs, bringing back pro football to the town and play off charges are all lucky imo.

Bring back Beattie and James Gray and we can all be happy.

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Easy to see why you (are/where) a teacher Alvin.:rolleyes:

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[QUOTE=Alvin the chipmunk;1200124]Now that Chapman has had a steady game McCoville can go back to being the whipping boy.

Bloody useless that lad. Only got more assists than anybody else in the top four divisions last year. Clark seems to me at least twice as ineffectual but gets none of the vitriol. Wonder why.

thought clark did o.k. last night far better than he did on saturday. pulis showed respect for the competition and for us unlike a number of premier managers would have done. as for the officials it was a stroll in the park for them really but still managed to turn down another penalty decision for us. overall some decent football played but could hardly be described as a blood and thunder cup game.

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I thought he did well. A lot of unselfish work having to guard against an international winger bombing on playing at wing back.
All the threats first half came down our left.
Did he have any shots on target - yes.
Do the stats show he rarely gave the ball away - yes.
He isn't injured - for the second time.
Irrelevent in many respects.
I never said McCloud didnt do ok but 20 minutes worth didn't make him MOM for me.
Chapman pulled off some decent saves and I can't criticise him for any of the goals.

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Completely over the top & illogical response to those who felt McCoville (whoever he is?) had a less than stellar game.
Seems it's fair game for some to slag Chapman off on a weekly basis, criticise Donacien, Clark & even on rare occasions, Billy Kee.
But the mere mention of 'The Precious' and the very foundations of the club are about to collapse.
According to Alvin, any criticism of Super Sean has become by association, criticism of John Coleman and as such, high treason.
In the past, I've praised McConville when I felt he'd deserved it. Blimey! I even recall penning a song in his honour.
However, imho & it would seem, a good number of the Clayton End, last night McConville went from 'Super Sean' to 'Boy Blunder', & I'm not just talking about the 2nd goal fiasco.
I can't recall him making a single effective tackle in the whole game. When receiving the ball in space, he invariably passed backwards - unlike McLeod who knew which way we were kicking.
He looked afraid of taking defenders on & seemed happy to get rid of the ball at the first opportunity. On the few occasions he tried, he usually lost the ball.
I hope Sean scores a hat trick on Friday & we're all singing his praises again.
But please! Don't blow a fuse just because some of us felt he was our least effective player last night, it's only personal opinion.

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Dont expect logic from yon mon not Alan -Alvin.

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Some great publicity for the club:
West Brom: Why one young Albion super-fan will never forget the match at Accrington - Birmingham Mail :)

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Look what you could've won - West Brom have drawn Man City at home in the third round, surely that would've sold out . . . . . . .?

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Perhaps we should sell some tickets anyway ...... :D

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Except that draw numbers were allocated alphabetically so we would have been 1 and would have been at home to Brentford who would have been 7. But there's nowt wrong with dreaming. :)

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Well, that's just splitting hairs - I'll stick to my theory cos it's more exciting than the truth :)

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Lovely story. Well done to the steward.

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Are you sure about that??? The turn out for the West Brom match was poor from the home fans. The baggies brought as many from their place as we did. What do we have to do to bring people through the gate. The ground should have been packed out solid. Even Rovers as a league 1 club are attracting crowds of 20,000 we have a base of about 1400. something desperately wrong somewhere.

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Err, do you believe a statistic or your eyes?
And anyway, there was only 16,000 at Ewood last night for what is, apparently, the biggest 'derby' in East Lancs.

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I was at the match and I believe my eyes, However there was lot more space in the ground. We should be selling out games like this. There may have been only 16000 at Ewood but there was not even 5000 at Stanley, That is the real point. we need bigger ground support at home. I know it has been an ongoing debate for a long time. So what do we need to do? I noticed Andy has announced that prices to the checkatrade cups are £5 or under 12s £1. Will this help? I personally don't think it will for these competitions. The WBA match should have been a little cheaper and handled better. However that is gone. Maybe a public consultation as to the reason people re choosing clubs outside the area rather than support their own local club. If you don't ask then you won't know. You might not like the answer but you will have something to work with.

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1. Look after the fans we have.
2. Ex fans are easier to entice than new fans. So entice old fans back.
3a. Give over bleating about the public not coming. Never EVER mention it again
3b. Start looking for ways to improve our image locally, helping charities, building playgrounds etc

Somewhere along the lines we hope for success on the pitch to bring in a new batch - then we're back to number 1.

We lost 40 years worth of kids, got back to the league then promptly spent 10 years undoing all our hardwork and losing more kids.

A point made on twitter the other day (by Alvin the chipmonk i think) was that in 2009 we had a FANtastic terrace, bouncing, noisy, colourful and vibrant. The end was packed with kids - who would all be around the 18 year old mark now.

We chased them away. Those who didnt run were priced out.

Oh well, we can start building now for 2025

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not interested or have found other clubs to support. 40 odd years without a league club is two generations of lost fans. in that time if you wanted to watch league football you had to go somewhere else. then the dads took their kids to another club and they got hooked on it. then the greedy league started with all the hype surrounding it with blackburn winning it at burnley now have turned the corner. just cannot see where new fans will come from apart from people moving into the area.

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Monkey Hanger gives a pretty accurate assessment i reckon, though it should NEVER be accepted, it needs much work and focus on attracting and keeping "New Kids" thats the only way to hopefully increase a crowd yeh got a chance of keeping imho,we all know a consistently winning team increases gates, but that can NEVER last.

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the main thing that we need to do to increase home support is something stanley have never done as a league club, GET PROMOTION.

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The problem with that is if yeh struggle in the new division,its likely to reduce? as i have seen numerous times. it will be fine the season we achieve Promotion no doubt but after?

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The suggestion of a public consultation was to simply find out why we are being overlooked. There is over 80,000 people in Hyndburn, surely we can attract at least 3.5 thousand. I have heard all the good reasoned arguments about the loss of the fan base etc. People like Billy Casper need to realise that we can't afford to go on like we are, we need the bodies through the gates. Simple. I for one will say the club does not get it right often enough. However our club depends on a lot of the volunteers who do a good job for nothing. The public consultation I had in mind was not a public meeting at the early stages. We need to promote the club. I have yet to hear a bad word about the fans from away fans from anywhere, We are known as a family friendly club. We need to work on that and some electronic type ticket purchase which has been mentioned before. The last game against WBA was a match to fill the ground with good decent away fans. I had to give up my season ticket seat to be placed in a seat where I couldn't see the whole of the pitch so saw part of the match. This should never be. these things can be ironed out behind closed doors with the supporters club help. we need to remove every obstacle we can to fans attending. We can all do a bit because despite all the valid reasons given we have to be realistic that we can not survive on the gate income we get. Cashy has called it right, If we do get promoted and struggle we could end up worse. on the bright side if we do well it may be the breakthrough we need.

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chrisr makes some good points about our gates and the club shooting themselves in the foot regarding ticket allocations. got to disagree about promotion though. when we were struggling to keep in the league our gates were not much less than they are now. a promotion would increase them and even if we did struggle some would stay even if we went down. when you look at this seasons fixture list with all the southern ex non league sides in even the regulars must me thinking not crawley, barnet, cheltenham and stevenage again. morecambe is a local derby but not exactly a round the corner trip. i know you don,t really come to a game to watch the opposition but you cannot really expect a new fan to get excited of the prospect of seeing some of the above. its like going to the cinama years ago and watching a repeat of some B movie.

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